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The Future of Cinema Is in the Past 

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A video essay about how current directors have been using the Scope aspect ratio (~2.4 : 1) incorrectly.
To prove that the wide images we have been getting are not truly wide, we’ll go through the history of widescreen. First we’ll see how classical filmmakers like William Wyler, Anthony Mann, Vincente Minnelli and Akira Kurosawa used to frame their images in Academy Ratio (1.37 : 1), then we’ll see how they adapted to 2.35 and 2.55. What did they gain and what did they lose?
As time went by, however, Scope faced the challenge of television and pan and scan (urgh…). To save their images, directors devised two strategies that allowed their films to be shown on the small screen without much loss: Shoot Full Frame or Shoot and Protect. The latter was the more popular choice and it slowly lead to the downfall of Scope.
TVs grew bigger and wider, making letterbox an attractive choice to save Scope frames. Unfortunately, directors got a liking to those black bars without much minding why they were there. This lead to our age, in which audiovisual media is shot in 2.39 willy-nilly, simply because it looks “cinematic”.
And it seems the best way to get our directors to deliver us images that look full, tall and composed (at least better than bad Scope) is with the return of Academy Ratio as examples from Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight and Zack Snyder’s Justice League can prove. By the way, did you ever notice how poorly framed is Inception?
00:00 Academy Ratio
02:18 Scope
06:32 Pan and Scan
08:55 Letterboxing
11:27 IMAX vs. Bad Scope
16:52 Academy Returns
#videoessay #cinema #directing #cinematography #aspectratio
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@biggiecheese4774
@biggiecheese4774 10 месяцев назад
One of the best film criticism channels right now
@shoshone3741
@shoshone3741 10 месяцев назад
Totally agree!
@TheSuperQuail
@TheSuperQuail 10 месяцев назад
💯
@markhgn
@markhgn 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely agree. I get so much from watching these.
@foe9034
@foe9034 10 месяцев назад
Agreed
@fastbowler
@fastbowler 10 месяцев назад
I quit other film essay/analysis/criticism channels already because of Moviewise
@gmckart
@gmckart 10 месяцев назад
Film history, film technique, delivered with jokes and quality editing through the whole video. I can feel my brain growing.
@crystalwellman9024
@crystalwellman9024 10 месяцев назад
You sir are genius cause not only am I learning actual film techniques and whys, you give it with hilarious comedic edit additions and a flare of personality. You show your interest and critic you don’t just talk like you know everything. God that’s rare on RU-vid.
@elevenseven-yq4vu
@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, making sure everyone gets where exactly you are coming from and what the fuck it is you are talking about has become way too rare. These days it is more about claiming shit and hoping the audience will trust you because you make it sound cool and thrash others' point of view. I love anything that is a little more in-depth and precise and analytical. It doesn't have to be overly humble. It doesn't have to pack a thousand details in and last for half an hour or even longer. It just has to be upfront about the scope of what it going to talk about, about the angle it picks, briefly mention what is being left out and why, and then STICK THE FUCK to that outline. That's how you are HONEST about subjectivity. The rest is skill, looking closely, dissecting it, attributing meaning, then wrap it up in precise and short language. Make the audience understand how you see it, then let them decide on whether they find your line of thought convincing and agree with your conlusions. Don't try talking people into agreeing with you by using rhetorical tricks. Stick to one topic, present it as is, point to details, then let them think for themselves. I am happy I found this channel; it does this most of the time, and I have hungered for it.
@SilentSilvia
@SilentSilvia 10 месяцев назад
Absolute riot of a video. As someone who constantly talks about composition and nobody cares, this felt like discovering an old friend
@PossumReviews
@PossumReviews 10 месяцев назад
I think what Zack Snyder meant to say was superheros (and supervillains) are larger-than-life characters, and a taller frame is better for emphasizing that. When you have a character like Superman or Darkseid, who are tall and broad-shouldered, filming them in 4:3 allows them to dominate the frame with minimal unused space to their left and right, thereby making them look bigger. The counterexample would be Battlefield Earth, which features nine-foot-tall aliens called Psychlos. The movie was shot in scope for no reason other than that's what people expected movies to look like at the time, so any time a Psychlo appears in a wide shot, the camera has to be pulled really far back to fit them in the frame, and this consequently makes them appear smaller while showing too much of the environment which they're not filling up. Thus, these characters who are supposed to be huge and intimidating don't appear so. I suspect the filmmakers realized this to some degree, so they tried to reintroduce some verticality to their frame by tilting the camera, and then they tried to play it off like it was a stylistic decision and just made the whole movie Dutch angles.
@Moviewise
@Moviewise 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the comment, Possum!
@denroy3
@denroy3 2 месяца назад
Meant to say...didn't say. Vertical isn't a synonym for larger than life.
@jerryschramm4399
@jerryschramm4399 10 месяцев назад
This is thought provoking and challenging. I'm going to take a while to consider it, then re-watch the video to see if I agree. This is why your channel is so good. It treats us as adults, and trusts us to be able to grasp more difficult concepts. Or at least concepts that may not be all that familiar to us. Well done.
@sunilKumar-sy9pm
@sunilKumar-sy9pm 10 месяцев назад
Your channel is addictive. I'm daily watching at least one video. It's like youtubers have forgotten how to make a video essay on movies.
@Theomite
@Theomite 10 месяцев назад
To be fair, you have to watch A LOT of movies so you can have the footage to edit into demonstrations.
@bosniankumquat1835
@bosniankumquat1835 8 месяцев назад
This im tired of greta gerwig white women video essayist trying to find the "queer" elements in movies like Predator and Point Break.
@watchword1354
@watchword1354 10 месяцев назад
Just discovered your channel. Excellent work. Brilliant insights. Please keep going.
@flow2333
@flow2333 10 месяцев назад
Actually I love the cinemascope productions from the 50s, I wish more films and directors would use this format as well.
@johnjay370
@johnjay370 10 месяцев назад
Maby you can use both. What people don't realize about IMAX films is that thay use different aspect ratios through out the movie but because the screen is so big most people dont notice. But when you watch it on dvd it becomes more apparent.
@DimitriFarkas
@DimitriFarkas 10 месяцев назад
I’m a scope fanboy. Some months ago I was watching “Cold War” and I was stunned of the way it looked, so I started shooting in OpenGate 4:3 spherical lenses. Then I watch this analysis… In two weeks, I’ll shoot a short film. I will rethink every frame and leave the anamorphics for other time. This insight is what I needed. Thank you very much.
@Moviewise
@Moviewise 10 месяцев назад
Hope your short looks amazing!
@Tigerfire75
@Tigerfire75 10 месяцев назад
Smart to use vertical in the shootout scenes. The people who have the high ground had an advantage.
@Gianfranco_69
@Gianfranco_69 10 месяцев назад
Makes perfect sense....its like you are "over the shoulder" of the protagonist
@Tigerfire75
@Tigerfire75 10 месяцев назад
@@Gianfranco_69 nah I just saw it in a foreign film from a long time ago.
@Gianfranco_69
@Gianfranco_69 10 месяцев назад
@@Tigerfire75 just dont fall into Lava....it hurts
@tobiasmyers3505
@tobiasmyers3505 9 месяцев назад
​@MegaGfranco Worse than sand. Like sand that's on fire.
@tobiasmyers3505
@tobiasmyers3505 9 месяцев назад
Barbie was shot 2 to 1 on Alexa 65. It looked great on the big screen. There was one especially artful shot halfway thru, (*very slight spoiler)where there is a room, framed in complete blackness on the top and sides, but on the bottom, the light from the room spills down, reflecting on the floor, extending out of this frame. It was mesmerizing.
@john5880
@john5880 9 месяцев назад
Discovered your channel thanks to RU-vid suggestions. Let the videos rolling. Thought I was in a hundred thousands views per video channel, and was shocked that you don't have more views. Quality of your videos is off the charts, it's really clever, precise and full of cinema lessons. Even the description of the video is well written and seriously treated. Thanks for sharing this knowledge and points of views, truly interesting and valuable.
@pootmcphoot
@pootmcphoot 10 месяцев назад
Recently found this channel. Binged all of the videos in two days. Came back to see if I missed any and to rewatch. Low and behold, a new video! Thanks movie wise!
@thecommentermaker
@thecommentermaker 10 месяцев назад
There has been a similar revolution in comics, that comics used to always be read left to right (or right to left for manga). Now they are up to down, as most reading is down on a phone. Most webcomic sites now offer vertical scroll.
@elevenseven-yq4vu
@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад
The best comics use all directions. They are not confining themselves to a small screen and monodirectional reading. They are not confining themselves to a certain frame width or height either. They are free to use the whole page, or two pages at once, structuring and restructuring the space freely. They create an abundance where the spectator can make up their own course of reading in terms of direction. They guide the eye to the suggested plot narrative, but they provide material enough to go exploring and read against the grain. Great comics are aware that they are not an illustrated novel. They tell stories and are meant to be read by and through the image as much as by and through the letter. Letters and pictures have a dialog, or rather a trialog with the comic book reader - if both author and spectator know how the medium works (BEST). Many people are comic-book-illiterate, though, and some comic-authors are almost comic-illiterate as well.
@bosniankumquat1835
@bosniankumquat1835 8 месяцев назад
While there are some webtoon creators that take advantage of the verticality(hellper and sweet home ) . Most webtoon creators do the bare minimum of composition and treat their vertical comics like storyboards . Which isnt a bad thing but makes you appreciate guys like Guarnido and Urusawa for their panel composition.
@shoshone3741
@shoshone3741 10 месяцев назад
Another interesting lesson! Thanks!
@yoni23able
@yoni23able 10 месяцев назад
I don't know your film making background, but this is incredibly insightful and useful. Thanks.
@morenofranco9235
@morenofranco9235 10 месяцев назад
So glad to see that I am not alone in my judgement of the willful carnage wrought by film directors. I often re-watch movies just to grade the shooting, the props, camera motion, and editing cut flubs. Thanks Moviewise, for the fun.
@Th3_Gael
@Th3_Gael 7 месяцев назад
I'd never done that till recently. It's killed a few of my favourite films for sure. Once you see something, you can't unsee it
@rpg7287
@rpg7287 10 месяцев назад
Finally! Someone has agreed with me on Chris Nolan. I’ve always thought he made pretty good movies. But the directing wasn’t the reason for their quality. There is no way Nolan is on a level of directing with the likes of-let’s say-John Ford, one of the most unrecognized greatest directors of all time. By the way, I think you are on the cusp of something big. High quality will eventually be discovered. Your channel is going to blow up soon.
@kennydolby1379
@kennydolby1379 10 месяцев назад
The problem with Nolan is that dude has no imagination. How can you make such a dull movie about dreams & subconscious, when 10 years earlier Tarsem Singh made "The Cell".
@maxjones503
@maxjones503 10 месяцев назад
John Ford is probably the most cited and one of the most recognised directors in general in the history of the film. He's unrecognised only in the sense that his films came out 70-90 years ago and so, shockingly, fewer people have seen them today.
@melanie62954
@melanie62954 10 месяцев назад
@@maxjones503 I do think John Ford is somewhat underrated even among classic filmmakers simply because his most well-known films are almost all westerns, and not everyone connects with them. The Searchers is usually ranked as one of the greatest of all time, and it is, but it definitely has its flaws, unlike something as universally beloved as Casablanca. I can't think of a Ford film that I would consider an unadulterated masterpiece. Maybe The Grapes of Wrath? It's been too long since I've seen it. Compositionally, Ford is definitely one of the best, though. I love the simple visual philosophy he shared with young Steven Spielberg, that Spielberg included at the end of The Fabelmans.
@altoidosgood
@altoidosgood 10 месяцев назад
@@kennydolby1379 The is the most concise way I have read anyone describe Nolan's filmmaking. No Imagination. I always described it as sterile. Not limited to just Inception but Tenet, Dunkirk, and interstellar all share that feeling that underwhelms me when watching his movies. Its all plain, even lit, and clean sets. It just screams zero imagination.
@elevenseven-yq4vu
@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад
​@@kennydolby1379And then, The Cell is not even half as good as his other film about dreams, The Fall.
@fitzpatrickmathemati
@fitzpatrickmathemati 10 месяцев назад
Holed up in my room today sick and been binging your videos. Loved to see a new one just now!
@LukeRanieri
@LukeRanieri 10 месяцев назад
So happy to see a new video from you so soon!
@josh_from_xboxlive
@josh_from_xboxlive 10 месяцев назад
I'm so thankful for your videos. You're really showing the rest of us how it's done.
@speggeri90
@speggeri90 10 месяцев назад
This really is the first channel where I actually start to understand directing. Really the best and funniest channel on the topic!
@alwayslistening3340
@alwayslistening3340 10 месяцев назад
When I started the video with the information that it would be about aspect ratios, I expected it to put me to sleep. Instead I feel I learned a lot and have a better appreciation for framing in film. Thank you.
@urban7514
@urban7514 10 месяцев назад
You have succeeded in bringing your point across in an efficient way, without trying to make an independent movie modernising the use of classical film ratio which will embitter you after it gets buried and archived by Barbenheimer/ Fast and the transformers... or other. Great work.
@donalddickerson206
@donalddickerson206 10 месяцев назад
The "half a thing at a time" got me. That was good.
@jiacooper
@jiacooper 8 месяцев назад
I have learned more watching this channel than in 4 years of Video film production in School...wow I will look at everything differently now, I love the Academy ratio, depth and the height.
@kelechi_77
@kelechi_77 10 месяцев назад
I've always said this for all art, if you want to predict the future look to the past! Great video man
@frankmasiello1325
@frankmasiello1325 9 месяцев назад
You are so informtive and engrossing. We learn new things with each video. Thanks!
@silas1414
@silas1414 10 месяцев назад
Brilliant video. The way you visualise the information with all the examples works extremely well.
@erichaynes5826
@erichaynes5826 10 месяцев назад
This channel is amazing! Can’t wait to watch it blow up.
@paulcunneen3519
@paulcunneen3519 10 месяцев назад
This is the best video essay on Cinematography I have ever seen! I am now a subscriber; Thank You!
@lecedant
@lecedant 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for creating these videos-- some of the most original and insightful cinema content I have ever come across. Simon
@bencunnah5864
@bencunnah5864 10 месяцев назад
Just found this channel the other day through the video on I, Claudius. I've spent the last two weeks watching everything and regret nothing. Looking forward to what you do next!
@edmundogutierrez2599
@edmundogutierrez2599 10 месяцев назад
Great video keep ‘em coming
@pablodavidclavijo4609
@pablodavidclavijo4609 10 месяцев назад
Great content man keep it coming
@foe9034
@foe9034 10 месяцев назад
An important insight which is true to many fields. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and making us just a bit smarter. At least moviewise Can't wait for the next one!
@dukenson831
@dukenson831 9 месяцев назад
I think what’s really rad about this channel is you do a really great job expressing your love for movies without being incredibly pompous with your opinions or criticisms. Keep it up man.
@OuterGalaxyLounge
@OuterGalaxyLounge 10 месяцев назад
When you showed the Snyder quote about superheroes tending to be vertical, I was like ... "aaaannnnnd?" ... And then you went there. lol.
@PerfectHandProductions
@PerfectHandProductions 10 месяцев назад
Keep these great videos coming.
@shaunyams
@shaunyams 10 месяцев назад
really enjoyed that, I learned so much about films, thanks😁
@dingdingdingdiiiiing
@dingdingdingdiiiiing 9 месяцев назад
Bro... You made me rethink the 4/3 photography format.
@AntonioDiaz-op5up
@AntonioDiaz-op5up Месяц назад
I just found your channel. No hyperbole here. This is one of the best videos I have ever seen
@lukasenkaS
@lukasenkaS 10 месяцев назад
Such a great video!
@cristinaalvear9038
@cristinaalvear9038 9 месяцев назад
Amazing video as always
@LeilaSafira
@LeilaSafira 10 месяцев назад
Love this channel and your sense of humor! I watched this one three times and chuckled to the change of Titanic music every time. Keep them coming!
@oddbod4442
@oddbod4442 10 месяцев назад
Entertaining and informing. Truly perfect
@asgads
@asgads 10 месяцев назад
in videogames you do this primarily for performance. the black areas don´t need to be rendered and you have more memory for the actual image and you can add more detail
@blakebonecutter
@blakebonecutter 10 месяцев назад
This channel is becoming more based with each upload. Never allow blocking and framing to become a lost art!
@zorothe9th
@zorothe9th 10 месяцев назад
Based? Based on what?
@SomeHarbourBastard
@SomeHarbourBastard 9 месяцев назад
@@zorothe9thbased in reality. It means he spits facts.
@theamericanaromantic
@theamericanaromantic 10 месяцев назад
My new favorite channel.
@elevenseven-yq4vu
@elevenseven-yq4vu 9 месяцев назад
My take on the abysmal state of cinema screening tables right now is: Hollywood's approach to film making right now is avoiding financial risks at all (creative, craftsmanship, idiosyncratic, inspirational, intellectual, original) costs. It is suits running a business with an artform they don't know anything about, could not care less for, and yet don't trust actual artists enough to let them do their thing. There are so-called "original movies", few and far between, still being made, but even most of these feel like modular painting by trope numbers and references to similar movies of the genre. Even with these "somewhat original" movies, Hollywood is not going to take any risks. The Matrix, District 9, The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, Inception, Elysium, Logan, Joker, Ad Astra, Willy's Wonderland, The Dead Don't Die are such films - good movies per se, but all resembling stories and conceptual ideas we had seen on film before. I just wish more of these "somewhat original" movies were going further in trying out something new, pushing topical boundaries as well as exploring the artform, and went way beyond being modular remixes of truly original movies that have already proven successful time and time again. Hollywood not allowing for original pitches that do not reference past successes, makes for a cinematic world where "mildly entertaining" has become about the best I can hope for in a mainstream movie. (And that is sad. Even more so, when arthouse movies are becoming fewer and farther between each season. At least where I live, which is not a mega-city.) The only films that still felt fresh to me in recent years (one or two decades back) were: Persepolis, Loving Vincent, Captain Fantastic, The Kids Are All Right, Only Lovers Left Alive, Still Alice, The VVitch, Beasts of No Nation, Moonlight, Cam, Mandy, All These Small Moments, Portrait of a Lady on Fire, Parasite, System Crasher, The Lighthouse, Booksmart, Linoleum, We Don't Dance For Nothing, Brothers, Parsley, Way Out Ahead of Us, The Northman, Pig, Renfield, Barbie. About a third of these movies I had to travel a day and stay over night to attend film festivals for - or I would never have been able to watch them at a movie theatre. That is an average of about two fresh and original movies (that left an impression) per year (only 2 per year, dammit!) across ALL genres - and I had to go to great lengths to attend them. In the second half of the nineties - at a small town cinema - I got the same amount out of the genre of science fiction alone - masterpieces such as: Gattaca, Ghost in the Shell, eXistenZ, 13th Floor, Dark City, Strange Days; and a bit more pedestrian, yet also quite entertaining and unique in style: Alien Resurrection, The Matrix, Event Horizon, Escape From L. A., Lost in Space, The Fifth Element. So, what's the matter with cinema today? Here is an interesting analysis with which I can agree on many points: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RQF82Kj-v0E.htmlsi=kFK9ysccEcrChM-k
@rosmundsen
@rosmundsen 9 месяцев назад
Very good video. Thank You Sir.
@DarkSideofSynth
@DarkSideofSynth 10 месяцев назад
The algo be praised for suggesting me this. The competence, the rhythm, the excellent humour (the bipeds thing just floored me), and - why not - the accent.. top. Bashing Nolan & Snyder at the same time: priceless! Have a great weekend!
@user-pv4ze2gu1b
@user-pv4ze2gu1b 10 месяцев назад
Informative and hilarious. I rarely subscribe to a channel after watching just one video. This is one.
@abou1999
@abou1999 5 месяцев назад
Amazing video! Love your work, educational and funny
@Dragonkrux
@Dragonkrux 10 месяцев назад
I've been trying to articulate why Nolan doesn't impress me for years. THANK YOU!
@grill6411
@grill6411 10 месяцев назад
12:52 i wonder if that extra open window was intentional to account for normal theaters
@elevenseven-yq4vu
@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад
Good question!
@Zed-fq3lj
@Zed-fq3lj 10 месяцев назад
Very interesting video, must pay more attention to your channel
@chitranshutapas
@chitranshutapas 10 месяцев назад
Amazinglly put.....very informative. RIP Zack.
@placebo5466
@placebo5466 7 месяцев назад
I really hope you channel blows up. The amount of USEFUL information in each video is astounding. Keep up the great work. Instant sub from me.
@andreass2301
@andreass2301 9 месяцев назад
The trend will be whatever fits a smart phone screen, with everything shot in extreme close up so people can see it. Great video, I had never really thought much about how aspect effects camera work and story telling. 10/10
@badinfluence3814
@badinfluence3814 10 месяцев назад
Nice video. Of course, now televisions are universally 'wide', there is no need to frame compositions with how they will transfer to television in mind. There are no excuses for lazy, half-arsed framing and blocking any more! I'm off to see what Jim Emerson said about Nolan.
@alejoparedes2388
@alejoparedes2388 10 месяцев назад
This was both insightful and hilarious. Thank you.
@thesilvermotion
@thesilvermotion 9 месяцев назад
So interesting! Man I'm glad I came across this channel.
@DouglasBurton
@DouglasBurton 10 месяцев назад
Ahh that explains why some 'cinematic' scenese felt so tight and like heads were always getting cut off. This makes it all make so much more sense.
@mattresbert
@mattresbert 10 месяцев назад
Brilliant stuff Thank you
@Elmgren76
@Elmgren76 10 месяцев назад
My new favorite film channel!
@christoffer886
@christoffer886 10 месяцев назад
Why not just go 16:9, it works perfectly well for vertical and horizontal staging while filling up the entirety of the most common TV and monitor screen aspect ratio in existence. You can then stage scenes utilizing both compositional languages without having to jump around between them like in Nolan's movies. It's perfect for streaming, perfect for IMAX (and if cropping is used to utilize IMAX aspect ratio, it's not as extreme as going from IMAX to cinemascope), and perfect for a normal cinema screen. Just look at Cronenbergs movies, almost all were shot in 1.85:1 and they're perfect in both cinema and on modern 16:9 TVs. IMAX shot movies are perfect for IMAX, but since the rest of the world aren't looking at screens in that aspect ratio, it would be much better to just reshape IMAX screens to 5:3 or 16:9 instead. Since TVs are also much bigger today without taking up space, it's going to get more common having a large home cinema screen. It also works great for people watching movies on their phones, but they can go to hell and shouldn't be adapted towards.
@haines96
@haines96 7 месяцев назад
I'm not sure how 16x9 was arrived at... May have almost been a manufacturing decision when it came to flat screen TVs... But it seems to be approximately the sweet spot between the obnoxiously wide and the slightly too square ends of the spectrum. I know for laptop computers they are doing a lot more 16x10 because the way software has so many toolbars across the top that take up space. That's unrelated to movies, but might be a case for another sweet spot. I think a core issue is that all our cinemas are now built for widescreen so when you shift to smaller aspect ratio a lot of the people's heads and objects look small to audiences... So it might take some time to gain popularity enough that theaters would be built with accommodation for really tall screens and smaller aspect ratios. One nice feature is the curtains at a lot of theaters will adjust for the aspect ratio of the movie making a new space on the sides not stand out. It seems like with stadium seating there ought to be a lot more openness to making the screens even taller so they could adapt to a lot of choices and still keep the scale of the image large.
@liltick102
@liltick102 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely great video
@dattebenforcer
@dattebenforcer 10 месяцев назад
Instructive and entertaining, made me laugh out loud.
@WarCriminalPhlox
@WarCriminalPhlox 10 месяцев назад
Excellent video
@puddleglump8654
@puddleglump8654 10 месяцев назад
I thought when snyder was talking about superheroes being vertical he was talking about how the comic page is shaped. A comic page is so often when you see superheroes in comics with single page art work or if uou are looking at the cover everything tends to be vertical and stacked.
@SolarScion
@SolarScion 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, context. Also, Snyder is a visual genius, but isn't as good with words.
@elevenseven-yq4vu
@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад
​@@SolarScionNor with telling a story. I think he would make a good person behind the camera or DOP. His single shots can be amazing. But setting up a scene and directing/overseeing the whole script/screenplay/storyboard to set/blocking/acting process, not so much.
@iwillheadlockyournan731
@iwillheadlockyournan731 10 месяцев назад
Best film channel right now by far
@mikea.6121
@mikea.6121 10 месяцев назад
This is my favorite RU-vid channel.
@TensileStrength
@TensileStrength 10 месяцев назад
very enlightening and convincing. A lot of what you said I knew subconsciously but could never quite put my finger on it. Something seemed off but I wasn't sure why. Then when seeing those clips of Inception, I kept thinking "That's great in Academy!" and then realized it was in scope and stuff cut off. Inception really would have been better in Academy. So much fit into tight, square-shaped, area anyway and little to no landscapes. Scope served no purpose in it.
@PhilippeDoyleGray
@PhilippeDoyleGray 10 месяцев назад
You made me want to watch a motion picture whose aspect ratio changes, instead of staying the same from start to finish.
@SolarScion
@SolarScion 10 месяцев назад
Also, I remember Nolan's TDK does it during that skyscraper shot.
@elevenseven-yq4vu
@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад
That is an interesting idea: Make the ratio fit the narrative, not the other way around. One thing that might alienate audiences: Not being used to a switch in ratios might break suspension of disbelief. On the other hand: If audiences could adapt from unbroken angle shift continuity (theatre) to cut-(and-pasted) camera angle continuity (edited movies, with camera-to-focus distances widely varying between edited frames), why should this not be possible as well? I guess some people will just refuse to train their eyes/brains to a new way of "reading" movies.
@PhilippeDoyleGray
@PhilippeDoyleGray 10 месяцев назад
@@elevenseven-yq4vu If not now, then soon, a majority of people in the western world will easily adapt to differing aspect ratios in cinema because they already do this when looking between their smart phone, computer display, neighbour, and back again. It is directors, not the audience, who need to figure out how to change aspect ratios while telling a story.
@lucasmello1022
@lucasmello1022 10 месяцев назад
Xavier Dolan's Mommy (2014) does that.
@bobbyjosson4663
@bobbyjosson4663 9 месяцев назад
@@elevenseven-yq4vu It was tried in 1957/8 for an adaptation of H. G. Wells classic short story, 'The Door in the Wall'. It's a short film and online too.
@The_Gake
@The_Gake 4 месяца назад
all this time ive wondered why i love imax so much, but now i think im realizing its mainly academy ratio i love
@TensileStrength
@TensileStrength 10 месяцев назад
This has really affected the way I watch movies. Now I can't stop thinking about this with every movie I watch. I saw It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World a few days ago. I noticed in every shot the actors' faces were wholly in frame. The giant W was perfect in frame. Then when I watched Till, I noticed the same thing. Faces in frame, and when the widescreen left a gap, it was always filled with something. Usually large props, like a vase or piece of furniture. Sometimes the gap would be filled with a door way which someone would soon use. It made me appreciate the film more.
@sparkomatic
@sparkomatic 10 месяцев назад
Great stuff. Thanks.
@Vor567tez
@Vor567tez 10 месяцев назад
The fact that you can exactly say what wrong from bad to great director is doing is marvellous. It's easy to spot the blunder of the movie is bad but really hard when done in good movies. But not only that you are able explain your point very well. That's some skill. Thanks for sharing your deep knowledge. Just a recommendation can you make a video on Raj Kumar Hirani and Sanjay Leela Bhansali movies. They r some of the renowned Bollywood (Indian Hindi language movie) directors of current time.
@matheus5230
@matheus5230 6 дней назад
An amazing use of Scope (2.55:1 in this case) is Disney's Lady and the Tramp. Dogs are horizontal, and the whole film is told from their perspective. We pretty much never see humans above the waist.
@Kerwinnn
@Kerwinnn 10 месяцев назад
Excellent work sir 👏
@ConradSpoke
@ConradSpoke 10 месяцев назад
My favorite square movie in recent years is Robert Eggers' "The Lighthouse" in spectacularly grim 1.19:1. I loved that shape so much I saw it twice on a giant screen. The dripping **** scene would been much less ******** in scope.
@Moviewise
@Moviewise 10 месяцев назад
That film is amazing and looks amazing!
@fernandomaron87
@fernandomaron87 10 месяцев назад
The trailer of new film 'The Count' gave me a similar vibe, photography wise
@elevenseven-yq4vu
@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад
It is magnificent. First film I watched with Robert Pattinson in it, which sold me on watching The Batman in spite of superhero fatigue. Great actor. I had already loved The VVitch, but Eggers upped his ante with The Lighthouse. I can not begin praising how he changed his visual style and yet stayed true to his narrative style, both being always great, and at the same time carving out his unique thematical niche. Robert Eggers has, over the course of just three movies, become his own - very varied yet recognizable - genre: "Psychologically immersive and consistent, myth-laden, historically accurate contextualized, surreal social horror movie". When I watched a - relatively tame and un-psychedelic - trailer for "The Northman" I was afraid he might have left his own budding "genre" to become a mercenary Hollywood mainstream contractor doing what's in (Streaming-) fashion for the masses: Game of thrones styled, Viking/Barbarian themed schlock. But boy, was I wrong! That guy is a genius filmmaker with a vision, a style, talent for the ages, and the perfect core team for him. What a ride!
@Gianfranco_69
@Gianfranco_69 10 месяцев назад
You deserve waaaaaay more Subscrbrs ..... excellent channel
@prerna_padma
@prerna_padma 10 месяцев назад
Absolute classic video!!!
@jammydodger222Xxd
@jammydodger222Xxd 10 месяцев назад
My dude you've earned yourself a subscriber. I'm on an official film course right now and none of the points from your videos are explored
@davidpo5517
@davidpo5517 9 месяцев назад
You know else tends to be more vertical: bipeds! Love it.
9 месяцев назад
I wish 4:3 would become the norm again, first for laptops and then for big home screens.
@eugeneflynn7435
@eugeneflynn7435 10 месяцев назад
Great stuff.
@rottensquid
@rottensquid 10 месяцев назад
The thing about Snyder's comment is, though he's articulating it about as well as Snyder articulates anything (more's the pity) I kinda understand what he's getting at. Comics pages are, of course, vertical as opposed to horizontal, so there's a particular iconic image that recurs of the towering hero, standing out in front of their page and their story in such a way as to express their iconic nature. Iconography is absolutely essential to superheroes. They usually wear logos that come to mean whatever value or theme the character represents. And even if they don't have a logo per se, the characters themselves almost always have an iconic appearance. There's James Bond in his tux, but then there's Batman with his ears, cape, and bat logo. Or even Wolverine with his distinct hairstyle, steel claws, and animalistic expression. Anyone can wear a tux. No one looks like Wolverine but Wolverine. In comics, the splash page, or just a vertical full figure panel, appears frequently to present the character's iconic image. This image delivers the product of the comic, a character who's an iconic representation of their story's theme, with accompanying story to reinforce or challenge that theme. So I get that Snyder wanted to capture the towering, iconic image of superheroes, standing taller than their story. Not all characters need that, regardless of being bipeds that happen to stand vertically. But superheroes as a genre can really benefit from it.
@Megabomberman87
@Megabomberman87 10 месяцев назад
Good comment, love this channel but maybe the author couldn't resist uncharitably interepting Zak's incoherent rambling because the punchline of bipeds was too good to not be used 😅
@88Grave
@88Grave 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for this. I thought I was crazy. All those widescreen formatted movies and still there’s letterboxing, like I thought widescreen meant it was supposed to fit my tv properly.
@haines96
@haines96 7 месяцев назад
I really like your channel and insights! To me the biggest challenge is keeping the objects big enough, i.e. screen size. If movie screens were much bigger, more like IMAX, I think it would be easier for audiences to embrace the squarer format again. But there is tremendous inertia behind all our movie theaters being designed and built for widescreen, so projecting squarer looks smaller. It's kind of a chicken and egg problem. Would be great to have more theaters with the screen size like IMAX but maybe not tied to a proprietary film type, so the aspect ratio could be taken advantage of more...Otherwise people's heads and faces start to look really small on the screen... Need taller screens! So the industry would need to start building bigger screens that allow for the classic aspect ratio. Certainly 16x9 is a bit squareer than the old cinema scope, so perhaps that will help filmmakers not get too wide, but there is a notion that "more is better" that really takes hold in the public and executives minds. You flashed Jurassic Park a couple times and at least that used 16x9 (1.78:1) recognizing the need for verticality more than the super wide formats that are like 2.1:1.
@adithchandra1
@adithchandra1 9 месяцев назад
Inception is my fav film of all time. I didn't care about "off frames" then and not even now. These are good for academic purposes but the masses don't care.
@SlunkieB
@SlunkieB 10 месяцев назад
hilarious and informing - great video!
@RH1812
@RH1812 10 месяцев назад
Interesting. Essentially, plan your shots, design etc to compliment the chosen ratio. At least the varied ratios used in a single film are starting to be applied to dvd or streaming now
@ViceRidden
@ViceRidden 10 месяцев назад
You're a great teacher.
@LordKeram
@LordKeram 10 месяцев назад
The issue with different ratios is that cinemas will always fight them. As it's just easier for them to have 1 and the same ratio for every film instead of adjusting. This goes for PC/TV screens as well, but to a lesser extent. I could definitely see the academy ratio coming back, that is after the Hollywood gets out of the dark ages we are in now. I feel the Zack Snyder point is actually the most important one even if he himself does not seem to understand it. Humans by nature are more vertical, therefore the only way a horizontal ratio makes sense is if you have multiple people next to each other or very far away. But then again the start of you video shows perfectly how beautiful shots, that showcase distance can be achieved vertically as well. I have a feeling your channel will blow up soon keep up the good work.
@menninkainen8830
@menninkainen8830 10 месяцев назад
What is missing is that if you have a really big screen, like you often nowadays have, your eyes cannot focus on the entire part of it anyway. So what you have on the sides is often only there for more immersion. With a small screen, (especially old 4:3 television) you have a sharp focus area from top to bottom and left to right of the entire image.
@SzalonyKucharz
@SzalonyKucharz 10 месяцев назад
​@@menninkainen8830I'd argue that nowadays a lot more video content is watched on small screens of mobile devices and produced with that in mind. Hence the insistence on tight, fast editing and framing one object / face at a time, in pocket format.
@elevenseven-yq4vu
@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад
The Widescreen is suitable for flat landscape panorama shots, as you would have with the army movements in Westerns, Sandal epics, or other historical War movies or Fantasy genre battles. You could also show some sort of evolution or unfolding stufd using CGI to spread it out from left to right instead of going for montage. All of that nowadays is rarely done in good movies (extras are expensive and CGI bound to look shite if not immediately then when outdated soon). So the Widesccreen format will rarely be played to strength, unless peoplea interests in subject matter shift back to this stuff.
@elevenseven-yq4vu
@elevenseven-yq4vu 10 месяцев назад
​@@SzalonyKucharzWho in their right mind would want to watch a movie on a pocket format screen?
@SzalonyKucharz
@SzalonyKucharz 10 месяцев назад
@@elevenseven-yq4vu ​ It may come as a surprise to you, but according to statistics almost 50% of Netflix viewers under the age of 35 watch their content on mobile devices. 36% of users between 36-54 years of age watch Netflix on their mobile devices. 30% of total number of users watch Netflix on their mobile devices. That's quite a significant number. Then, if you take into consideration video content which is not full length 'cinematic' movies, it turns out that most video content consumed today is via mobile devices. While not all of these are movies, movie makers need to compete with that, just like they had with daytime TV back in the day. The aesthetics of small screen videos could be influencing their choices, the same way that graphical aesthetics of comic books does.
@James-Tanner
@James-Tanner 8 месяцев назад
I hope to god we don’t have a vertical trend. I WILL RESIST!
@anonygent
@anonygent 10 месяцев назад
I'd be curious to see a video analysis of TV movies and how the limitations of 4:3 and a small screen affected the directors' choices.
@dvdly
@dvdly 10 месяцев назад
If a significant financial benefit of the wide screen comes from more aisles, and hence more seats, you might be right. fewer public viewings might alter the format, and the overwide television screens will feature "cinematic" black bars on the sides.
@totallyfrozen
@totallyfrozen 10 месяцев назад
Interesting thoughts.
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