The Future of Evernote: A Chat with the Team

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@keepproductive 10 месяцев назад

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@robertlee7605 10 месяцев назад

I have just binned and emptied evernote after 12 years- I am tired of broken software, 45% price hikes and empty promises. The elephant has turned into a mammoth and is about to become extinct

@Chris-cx6wl 10 месяцев назад

The mammoth analogy is spot on

@phantomoftheopera4885 10 месяцев назад

was about to retire the elephant too but decided to give it one more chance seeing recent improvements in sync speed.

@charlesbonfante9188 10 месяцев назад

Spot on...

@MatthieuDesroches 10 месяцев назад

Did you export all your Evernote data with the new v10 app? Or you did it with the old Legacy app? I have more than 10 000 notes all in one note book because I used tagging to organize my stuff. I dont think I'll be able to export all the 10 000 notes withing one notebook at the same time.

@charlesbonfante9188 10 месяцев назад

I had several notebooks with several tags. I created 3 notebooks and mastered these. Then I exported the 3 notebooks via the enex format and followed the obsidian guide to import into a new vault called 'Evernote'. Worked really well including all PDF's and Screenshots. It was great to finally get everything off Evernote. No going back. Thank god. Pity, in it's day Evernote was groundbreaking, I was a staunch advocated. All bugs after V10 were crazy then the price hikes were obscene with no dev or features for years. Disgusting services. Better products out there. Take a look at Joplin as well. @@MatthieuDesroches

@swagathshetty 10 месяцев назад

I moved from evernote to notion to nimbus note and finally back to evernote. Strangely the "keep it stupid simple" way of evernote is what made me come back

@amylee9 9 месяцев назад

what didn't you like about notion?

@MatthewLatimer 8 месяцев назад

100% this. And task management is good in evernote - both the overviews and 'in note' tasks. too many clicks, but good.

@christopherkline3930 10 месяцев назад

Former Evernote client. Now working with Bear. I appreciate the interview. The gentleman from Bending Spoons seemingly answered all off the questions head on. We all knew there would be changes not only to the app platform but throughout the organizational structure. They are a for-profit business, so I do not begrudge them for setting a adjusted price for their app and services. I wish Evernote and Bending Spoons well in the future and I will evaluate another change to Evernote in a year. Good luck!

@robertkowton5875 10 месяцев назад

Excellent job getting this interview. Certainly eases my mind that Evernote is not going away yet.

@theonyxknight 10 месяцев назад

I came away with that same sentiment. It's interesting how easy it is for people to watch the same video and come away with vastly different perspectives.

@whitehawkjulie 10 месяцев назад

I've used evernote since about 2008, and have 12000 notes, and all the new bugs have destroyed my love for it. I absolutely need to migrate. It's not the price, it's the broken functionality.

@amylee9 9 месяцев назад

same here....let me know if you find a good alternative.

@kipronoelijahkoech4630 7 месяцев назад

I landed in this video because I am fed up as well. I have been on Evernote since 2011, but want to move out now. I have found Amplenote to be an excellent alternative, but I have yet to decide to move out completely.

@ToriZealot 10 месяцев назад

Evernote still has best page capturing and table options. Ich have tons of PDFs stored which are fully searchable. I can feel the speed bumps and hope for really great AI integration.

@StevenMichels 10 месяцев назад

I wish Evernote looked and worked like the automation they create for their promos. At least someone finally mentioned the UI…

@richardcooper4336 10 месяцев назад

Decided to go with craft . Absolutely insane the yearly price Evernote wants for a subscription .

@udo9999 10 месяцев назад

yes. Insane! I switched to Nimbus.

@richardcooper4336 10 месяцев назад

@@udo9999 I’ve heard of Nimbus but haven’t tried it

@swagathshetty 10 месяцев назад

@@udo9999 I went back to evernote after using nimbus for 2 years. Evernote offered a generous discount for the annual subscription

@Orpheus.Machine 10 месяцев назад

The new AI search is a real game changer for me. It works a lot better than I expected and it really changes the way I look at or search my notes now. I was not happy about the price change, but this new AI search is helping to accept that price increase. I tried some other note taking apps, but the simplicity of Evernote, the webclipping, the new sync and the AI search, that is still a winning combination for me.

@heart_life_soul 10 месяцев назад

But will it be included in personal plan in future or will be a separate purchase?

@cgarrett1974 10 месяцев назад

This interview has given me more confidence in the product. User since 2008. The only issue I have was the price increase when the product is STILL broken in many regards. It would be more justified once the issues were resolved.

@llicit1833 10 месяцев назад

Had a period where EN was slow & thought about leaving it. However now seems to work very well overall for me so happy to stay with it. Quite a cost to switching apps all the time so often think it is better to just make the most of the one you are using

@J1233459 10 месяцев назад

Went to Notion and Apple Notes but Evernote works well for me. Will be interesting to see where this goes.

@Chris-cx6wl 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for setting up this interview. Something that would be great next time is to have follow-up questions. I wish there was some pushback on some of the things he said.

@edwalsh7032 10 месяцев назад

Excellent interview thank you for doing this very informative.

@sertilleva 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for that interview. I like Evernote so I wish the best for the team.

@poland153 10 месяцев назад

I appreciate how transparent he was with what they are changing with their production machines and all the architectural techniques that they are starting to use. These changes would def help from a release engineering point of view. Good, hopefully they can rise from the ashes.

@tonycosta3302 10 месяцев назад

I’m in the process of dumping Evernote. All I favor of them doing what they need to survive, but that last couple years has been so painful, I’m out. I’m actively looking at Logseq and Anytype as a functionality upgrade. I’ll miss WebClipper though.

@wabisaaby 10 месяцев назад

I went with Obsidian after 11 years of Evernote. Obsidian has a worse user experience. But if you put in the work to learn it and its plugins, it's SO powerful and flexible it's crazy. Plus it's purely local unless you buy their sync. But nothing prevents you from setting up a sync for yourself. And now I kinda love it.

@syriann 10 месяцев назад

Loved it except for capture

@wabisaaby 10 месяцев назад

@@syriannI definitely agree that they should put work into an official browser plugin

@pierrepemen9016 10 месяцев назад

Agree but a good webclipper is missing

@jawjuh1005 10 месяцев назад

I have seen several of these interviews. I’m very impressed and decided to go back on EN. Personal subscription. It is worth it to me. I feel like EN is in good hands. Over the last week I have been using EN and migrating data back in. To BS credit not one single issue. 👏

@MatthewLatimer 8 месяцев назад

same here - I'm back in w EN

@theonyxknight 10 месяцев назад

I've been an Evernote user (on and off) since 2009. Bear comes the closest to offering the same feature set for a fraction of the price. And their latest iteration, Bear 2, adds searchable PDFS and images to that list. Plus, importing ENEX files into Bear is a breeze. For these reasons among others, I plan to always keep an active Bear subscription. BUT...Evernote keeps me hooked in with collaboration, rich task management, and an unparalleled web clipping experience. So...yeah. I'll maintain the Personal subscription and will hang on to see what Bending Spoons does.

@charlesbonfante9188 10 месяцев назад

Obsidian... done

@theonyxknight 10 месяцев назад

@@charlesbonfante9188 Been there, done that. Hated the UX. But I'm glad it's working for you.

@AnthonyRecenello 10 месяцев назад

This did nothing to excite me for the future of Evernote. I’ve learned to wrangle my mess in Notion and really made it work for me now. He said exactly what I already knew from their recent press release. Evernote ruined themselves by focusing too much on business/team features and let their individual users fall by the wayside. Then they crashed and burned cuz their business/team features were horrible. (This is my assumption) I respect that they wanna make the app stable, but you gotta excite us for the future. Evernote began by blowing everyone away by the beautiful and easy interface. They need to blow us away again. Not by becoming another Notion, but by doing something completely novel yet still simple and familiar. I remember you mentioned this about the future of note taking in one of your past videos. I believe they need to utilize AI in a way no one else is doing. They need to make note taking so incredibly enjoyable and useful. But based on this thirty minute video, I don’t think much will change. And I also unfortunately think they’ll go out of business again.

@udo9999 10 месяцев назад

"changed their pricing" - "CHANGED"?? - They actually EXPLODED the prices. Why do you not just say it as it is? I guess I don't even need to watch the video, if you start with such a downplaying the facts. Do you make your videos for Bending Spoons or for your viewers?

@redastair 10 месяцев назад

But they just 'aligned their pricing with the market'. I have no idea what market they think they're in. $169AUD for a year is so out of touch with what they're offering. And the price increase for new functionality over the years? They've lagged behind so much of what has happened in other apps.

@syriann 10 месяцев назад

I tried a lot of different app. And I want more from Evernote but in the same time I keep coming back 😑

@TheBT 10 месяцев назад

I felt the exact same way, but after making the decision to buy a Notion pre setup (the Thomas Frank one) I have moved everything out of evernote.

@donnadurrant6828 10 месяцев назад

As someone who is newish to PKM and an (unhappy) Evernote user, is there a note taking app (for Android and web) that has inbuilt OCR and an 'email into' function? I can't seem to find an app that does both.

@Yash.027 7 месяцев назад

Returned to Evernote after 3 yrs. Now it feels CONSIDERABLY Faster !!

@holger.gruenhagen 8 месяцев назад

Any suggestions for a "note-taking/storing" app that has OCR for images and searchable PDFs?

@Bitzwithtravel 9 месяцев назад

Is evenote still has limits to the notes?, since it was limiting number of notes in free version.

@codemaclife 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing.

@MrDeviousdom 10 месяцев назад

As soon as I get a moment, I'm going to be shit canning Evernote. I've been with them for over 10 years and although it is going to be one hell of a conversion, I'm sick and tired of dealing with this product. To the developers: Good luck finding suckers to pay exorbitant amounts of money for crap!

@GuyCassidy 10 месяцев назад

If you’re on iOS/Mac, you should give ‘Voyage by House of Mars’ a try. A slightly different approach to note taking and productivity.

@Han-dle598 10 месяцев назад

What is a good Evernote replacement for Windows that can import around 15,000 notes split across 15 notebooks? And that does web clipping and tags.

@amylee9 9 месяцев назад

That IS the question....if you want out, let me know...

@clumein2 10 месяцев назад

Used it a long time ago.... wanted to give it another try... but as per your discussion at the start of the vid.... the price backed me away...

@KrunoslavStifter 10 месяцев назад

This guy is unbelievable. His excuse for raising prices was to charge for last seven years of features at Evernote. You have to be kidding me? Evernote took a good, working app, and replaced it with a buggy mess, with still more than half the original features missing, and they cut how many devices you can use in free mode and other limitations, to force you to pay for their waste of money and general hatred of loyal user base. Now we get this piece of work, raising prices again, with zero value offered in return, not even things that worked sever years ago, are working. Utter disaster. It was not so damn hard to migrate thousands of notes from evernote, I would have abandoned this titanic long ago. And judging by the complete clulessness of the new guy, once again, Evernote will go in wrong direction at higher price, until it finally completely sinks. People were ignored for years on forums and bugs were so bad you dared not installing the app, for fear of losing data or being unable to work. And its been like this for last at least five years. Basic functionality of the old app is still missing. And he want to raise prices by how much? Get lost, dude.

@julestennisuniverse 10 месяцев назад

I flew because of the sync issue and the creation of a new note everytime I was writing. I flew also because It as laggy. Thx for the interview.

@cfibanez 8 месяцев назад

Thanks, but you missed to ask the MOST IMPORTANT question of all. Will they close EVERNOTE LEGACY, and if so when? That is the only Evernote version worth using.

@bogorad 9 месяцев назад

You fail to mention that BS has a reputation for snapping up popular products, jacking the price (or introducing recurring fees for previously pay-once products), and dumping them when no one is left paying. When the sale was announced, everyone who was familiar with BS realized that it's time to jump ship. I'm leaving when my annual sub expires. I've been a loyal customer since 2008, paying annually since 2011 (still using the 'legacy' app, BTW). What this interview clearly shows, is that BS is not just greedy, but also delusional about EVN. And it's sad.

@adamashlock1787 10 месяцев назад

Jumped after 10+ years over to UpNote. Certainly not as feature rich the sync is hands down slap your mamma good.

@thathappyrat 10 месяцев назад

Start with getting rid of Electron.

@rehdwolfe 10 месяцев назад

Moved to One Note and Good Notes . Mostly because I'm already paying for O365 and it integrates with my remarkable2.

@user-gt7eq9jl5z 10 месяцев назад

How about fixing problems like randomly deleting data or failing to save data? Unless this is fixed, there won't be a future.

@siddharthabanerjee908 10 месяцев назад

There apps have been so buggy that I don't use it much anymore other than web clipping.

@chrisdancy6191 10 месяцев назад

I started in 2007 or 2008 with evernote. Watched all your videos and seen a lot of changes. All I can say after watching this: 1. Every CEO has lied to us 2. This company has no desire to keep the tool, but will extract cash until they dump it to someone else and the cycle starts over. That's just my 55 year gut telling me. I won't abandon ship, but there is no reason to INVEST anything more into evernote other than slowly migrating if you care to.

@wizkid86 7 месяцев назад

Goodbye Evernote. 1 notebok and 50 notes limit is the final nail in the coffin for me.

@ChibiKeruchan 10 месяцев назад

what a boring video.. and didn't able to answer the justification of the price part. it's dead app for sure.

@KevinTea 10 месяцев назад

I was with Evernote pretty much since day one and sadly watched its decline with bloatware and unnecessary bolt-on modules, bugs etc. Kudos to Bending Spoons for agreeing to be interviewed but I will not be going back and will remain with Upnote. The company's handling of increasing subscriptions wasn't exactly subtle and will not be keeping an eye on it because of the limitations with the free version.

@TheDazDanks 10 месяцев назад

Dude, you're not going to get back to the time when everyone had Evernote installed if you're increasing prices by almost 50%. Do you not understand this concept or do you simply not care?

@winstonawlson 10 месяцев назад

I don't really believe him. He is asking customers to pay an exorbitant fees increase for testing. I used to live this application. Is this a money grab? I feel bad. I have to migrating fourteen years of life. 😢

@franciscogutierrezsanin9010 9 месяцев назад

The new Evernote has lost some key features of the old one, like establishing the font for all notes. And the company is hounding those who maintain the Legacy version. Two things to correct.

@FubarMike 8 месяцев назад

Given that evernote is showing all the typical signs of a failing company/service, how can I easily migrate my notes from many years over to something like onenote for free?

@OldCampos 9 месяцев назад

I cancelled my subscription and stayed on the free tier. But I don't use it actively anymore. Occasionally to save some receipts.

@stanacho854 7 месяцев назад

I've been an Evernote user for ten years and really liked the program but it's time for me to move on.

@adomakins 10 месяцев назад

TL;DR?

@jeffhetschel3035 4 месяца назад

I agree that Evernote just became too expensive. Its not worth the increase. wow, Im shocked! My go too apps for the last 10 years have been Evernote and Mint, now both are done, very sad.

@EmanuelSer 7 месяцев назад

1 notebok and 50 notes limit is crazy. Wish you the best but you're gonna have to find a new path because note taking isn't what Evernote is best for anymore.

@comedunken6156 10 месяцев назад

Apple Notes has everything what I need and it is for free

@KrunoslavStifter 10 месяцев назад

Its also Apple. But if you don't mind that.

@MatthieuDesroches 10 месяцев назад

The only problem with Apple Notes is that you can't use it on Windows...

@comedunken6156 10 месяцев назад

@@MatthieuDesroches i use through icloud on the web. works okay

@charlesbonfante9188 10 месяцев назад

God no... still banging on with Evernote? Died af v10, slow, appauling customer service and the pricing structure is nuts. Soo many other better products out there. A complete waste of time.

@user-kn6bq5fm7e 10 месяцев назад

The BlackBerry of notes.

@fredfassberger 10 месяцев назад

Long time with Evernote but looks like I'm switching to Upnote which is simpler, faster, and way more affordable.

@colinmoors4374 10 месяцев назад

How can you transfer all the notes to another app such as Upnote? I have over 25,000 notes and I'd be lost without Evernote.

@TheBT 10 месяцев назад

@@colinmoors4374 This is what I got from bing (which is so much better than google for finding answers nowadays) You can transfer your existing notes from Evernote to UpNote by performing the following steps: Export your notes from Evernote to an .enex file following this guide. Select the option to import from Evernote: On Mac: Select File > Import Notes > Evernote from the menu bar. On Windows: Go to Settings > General > Import from Evernote. You will see a pop-up window. Click the button Select .enex files and select one or multiple .enex files to import to UpNote. If you want to convert each .enex file into notebooks in UpNote, enable the option Use file name as notebook. This way you can quickly import multiple notebooks from Evernote to UpNote. You can select if you want to convert your tags in Evernote to hashtags or notebooks in UpNote. If you convert to hashtags, please note that special characters in Evernote’s tags will be replaced with - in hashtags since the hashtags in UpNote don’t support special characters. Select the notebook you want to add your notes to (optional). Please note that your imported notes will be added to this notebook if it’s specified. This notebook is not the parent notebook of your imported notebooks (if you had enabled the option above). Nesting action needs to be done after you imported your notebooks to UpNote. Finally, click the Import Notes button to import to UpNote

@agostinc 10 месяцев назад

com mais de 10 anos de evernote estou pensando seriamente em ir para o upnote, estou testando e gostando, sinceramente o que eu queria era simples, mais ferramentas de edição como existem nos outros aplicativo concorrentes. o grande problema do evernote, nao conseguimos enxergar o futuro da ferramenta, e ninguem comenta sobre isso .

@bergssprangare 10 месяцев назад

I have the same issue.. Start to feel stuck

@2nice79 9 месяцев назад

they raised prices after not retaining the money when they were the leader in the space.

@TruongNguyen-dq6ou 10 месяцев назад

Surprised, I thought Evernote was dead

@CrazyDriverSwed 10 месяцев назад

Stopped watching after 4 minutes. I had all the answers I needed right there. Bye bye Evernote.

@Drizz322 10 месяцев назад

Evernote user for 15 years. I honestly can't wait to empty all my notes out of this bloated and overly expensive app over to chrome. That's right! Chrome! I might as well use a service I pay for and actually get a use for it and keeps getting better. So tired of this app. It's an absolute shame what it had turned into.

@devarni 10 месяцев назад

In short: Evernote has no future. Many users are leaving the sinking ship and switching to other apps.

@epage46 10 месяцев назад

So glad I watched this before I renewed my subscription. Moving all operations to Europe sinks it for me. Once it becomes European Centric we're hosed in the US. The programmatic decisions were low hanging fruit, and not keeping up with the competition. You deal with backend issues while giving the clients the features they want. Evernote will be an efficient dinosaur. I won't be renewing.

@arjanbroere 7 месяцев назад

That is not an interview. Sending questions and getting an answer via video back is not an interview nor a conversation. How difficult can it be to have a conversation about the state of Evernote? Tons of unhappy users and dozens of great alternatives. Maybe time to get a bit more active. Btw @Francesco, are these videos sponsored by Evernote? If not, they should be given that they are not much more than ads

@robertlee7605 10 месяцев назад

"we always listen" actually no you don't. There was a simple request in the EN forum update a thread about Evernote updates with a list of changes. Never been updated since Feb

@F7dJa 10 месяцев назад

You can't go back because EN cannot lower prices comparatively to what it was in 2015. It is too bloated. The error was trying to be everything to everyone when all what the core users wanted was a simple notetaking app at affordable price.

@aynehancer5959 8 месяцев назад

smells the fails... Evernote will shutign down, it's just a matter of time.