Hellraiser: Judgment may have it’s shortcomings but I think it’s evident Gary is a good director. Maybe if someone comes up with a tighter script that focuses more on the theme instead of a side quest he could pull of quite the treat.
Auditor spin-off! Forgot the need for pinhead or have him make a tiny cameo but have the auditor interview humans that cover the seven deadly sins ( just as an example I'm sure there are better ways to connect the characters ) and make it purely about the way hells "office staff" not only deal with those who seek, but how they orchestrate new horrors upon the world, I swear there's a film in there somewhere with a much better theme than a random guy waxing lyrical on a RU-vid video off the cuff! Get to it Gary!!!
I think a cool intro to a new Hellraiser would be a close up shot of the God Leviathan. Camera zooms out while the structure slowly spins above the endless labyrinth landscape. Casting its evil black gaze over all it rules. The suffering sounds of countless victims evoking an insurmountable Hell. Scene dissolves into another close up shot of the Lament configuration centered on dirty table accompanied by its keeper and the question "What is your pleasure sir?" Ide like to see a film with a Hp Lovecraftian angle. The Laviathan is some force of nature older than the universe. A being that was born in the void. The lament configuration isnt just a doorway into its world but is also a extension of it. Basically a direct sequel to Hellbound. Some really cool ideas were suggested in that film. Im not into the christian perspective of the current films. Rather "God" or the ultimate creator could just be as alien to the troubles of human beings as much as the Laviathan is nothing more than a force of nature that delivers Torment and the cenobites are workers carrying out its design. Totally agree Hellraiser is best when its a Drama focused on fucked up people and the Supernatural element the Cenobites bring into already messed up circumstances are just icing on the cake. Dare I say it I thought Hellraiser Inferno was more interesting than Hell on Earth
Thank you Mr H and Gary, another great chat. Firstly, I definitely think Hellraiser would be better suited to a series where we can follow the characters on their descent. However if we are talking film directors Big budget name: You mentioned David Fincher; would make a dark, grisly and macabre feature that would pique the interest of those outside the Hellraiser fan base. Deserved Name: Gary Tunnicliffe; so far so good. I went in expecting Judgment to be utter tripe and think it has some great ideas. Some execution which I believe was mostly budgetary with some studio interference for good measure. Gary is an excited fan; but with the ability to capture the feel for the mythos while expanding it and not afraid to push it's boundaries. Left Field Choice: The Soska Sisters; you mentioned brothers but I would go with sisters. Jen and Sylvia Soska have the imagination and creativity; coupled with the willingness to push boundaries with darker themes (American Mary could be in the same world as Hellraiser quite easily). Some of the visuals they create are glorious; See No Evil 2, not the best film ever but some of the shots and visuals are exquisite. I'm a huge fan of the mythos and the franchise so let's be honest I would see it regardless but any of the above 3 options above would mean my expectations are high.
The white robes are cool artistically I'm sure it would make for a fine shot or comic panel. I certainly wouldn't like to see it as a permanent change.
Let the two guys that wrote and directed The Void have at it. They made that movie look like it had a budget 10 times it's actual size, and I'd be curious to see what they could come up with.
It is over the top compared to original however now a days to push the the envelope further , however hellraiser to me is classy horror, I love this series with Gary listening to his side made me watch judgment and then the rest of the franchise I’m obsessed with hellraiser now I can’t get enough thank you 🙏🏻 great job to mr h and Gary I’m proud of you guys
The internet can be incredible , as a kid i dreamed of being a movie special effects artist but growing up in the midlands in the UK that seemed and proved impossible for me to achieve so i gave up on that as a career and became a saddle maker , then after watching these videos i googled Gary because his accent just seemed very familiar and it turns out he grew up less than 5 miles from the village i grew up in and is only a few year older than me , god i'd love to sit down and have a pint and a chat with him if he ever goes back to visit home
I'd like to see steve oram and liam gavin do a version. Their film a dark song had strong hellraiser undertones and turned out well considering the meager budget
The thing that struck me as interesting about the script is how different the origin of pinhead was in it vs the implied origins in The Scarlet Gospels.
In theory I agree but he seems to dream too big sometimes. Maybe him and Clive could dream up something very cool. Not sure if del toro could keep a reign on the budget...
Great series of videos. Great to hear someone "speaking as a writer" hahaha seriously great fun and insightful. Big (ger) budget I would give the shout to Andy muscheti Keeping down and dirty 100%give it to the two guys who directed the void film. Which obviously had large swathes of hellraiser anyway. And they created a great mythos with the lovecraftian nightmare but give them the keys to the hellraiser kingdom and it could get very interesting
Gary, if there are any other future Hellraiser's coming, this Barker fan would love to play Merkova, the horse muzzle cenabite. Just saying. I love your work
As much as I'd like to tear into Gary J. Tunnicliffe, I wont deny that if it were given to me I'd of done the HellRaiser Movie(s) "Judgement" or "Revelations" I would really have angled the story and taken it in a different direction. The Hell Raiser mythos had two great movies and most people have a guilty pleasure in one of the other eight like the in space one or the Romania cult. But most of the movies were not able to capture the magic of the first. So I think his position is not an easy one. In the comics and novel there are things you can get to have that aren't possible in the movies. As far as Diaries of Gille De Rais or Bolingbrook or the Harry D'Armour leading Hell's Armies from those ideas and film it; This would be awesome in movies, I just don't see that happening. The thing that sort of irks me in the last movie is there seemed to be just gross out stuff. I think there are too many remakes though.
I just want to see a continuation of Judgement and have the film go deeper into that world and it's characters. While I love all the other films (except for Revelations), anything else released that is that from here on out I will be hesitant about if it's not that.
Ben Wheatley I think would be amazing for hellraiser, if you look at the visual creepiness along with the disturbing unsettling horror and dark humour in his earlier films. he would be a perfect fit for an interesting new take on the franchise. His past couple of films have been slight departures from that, but it seems to me like he would be the type of guy to go back to his more nasty cult-type filmmaking without hesitation.
I get what you guys mean but ive been hungry as hell for a cenobyte cake with icing made of all the other no relevant bullshit lol ! 💪🦇🦇💪💪 Great video guys 👍
Brain wave New hellraiser movie is called Under pinning hell It's about a ground worker who got a got a job selling nitting needles until one day he realised
Hellraiser reboot dream directors: Oz Perkins - Really awesome up and coming horror director who has a great visual style and can seemingly stretch tiny budgets much further than many other people. Greg Araki (especially if you want to play up the gay/S&M elements of the franchise which have been lost a bit over the years) Rodrigo Gudino Tarsem Singh (imagine that dude's vision of Hell, holy shit) Craig William McNeill (after seeing the first season of Channel Zero, for sure) There's a bunch of others. They should definitely get somebody lesser known but with a good visual style.
Alexander aja is one of my top picks for director along with(mr.h's) comment on Guillermo del Toro but, as for a final answer ? I don't know. .I'm half decided on it. Paul w.s. Anderson (to me) was the only one who has gotten close to making a hellraiser like movie with event horizon and that movie has a love hate relationship being that when I first saw the film, I didn't like it but now I have more appreciation for it.
I’m surprised no one has considered that Clive’s remake script was probably written that way on purpose. To what purpose is the question. Maybe it is the way it is because he wasn’t interested in it, or maybe it is the way it is so less would be cut. Sometimes writers/directors go overboard with the intention of getting more past the ratings board.
Pascal Laugier " Martyrs" "Incident at Ghostland" . He's not afraid to drive you straight to Hell. Also I don't think Bradley necessarily needs to be in it. Paul Taylor seemed very good or perhaps a bigger named actor
I just watched Hellraiser Judgment. There were a lot of things that I enjoyed. I did not care for the crazy veteran plot device at all. I thought that making a veteran a serial killer was pretty weak. There were a great many more things to enjoy about the movie though. The creature design was great, Pinhead was really well portrayed, and I enjoyed the idea of the cenobites having to change their ways. All in all, the Hellraiser elements were very well handled, but the PTSD elements and law enforcement details were handled piss poorly. I liked the horror bits, but the real world bits were awful.
I rather there be no remake. I want a judgment follow up! Or a direct sequel to hellbound. Ignoring everything past it. That would be the only way that I’d wanna see Doug Bradley in it again. And if not I’ll take more of Paul T. Taylor! Honestly I’m a little depressed we may never see him in the role again.
I don't really care much for a remake / reboot of Hellraiser. Remakes / reboots is the default for Hollywood these days primarily because it's risky doing something new and doing something new requires some inspiration and imagination (neither of which Hollywood possesses anymore) . I'm curious to see what would happen if Gary J Tunnicliffe got another chance to helm a Hellraiser movie. While I can see the issues other people in the audience had with Judgment, I don't think it was as terrible as people thought. Where the franchise went wrong following Hellraiser 2 is that they lost sight of the nature of the Lament Configuration and the Cenobites. Hollywood tried to turn Pinhead into a typical horror movie icon like Jason Voorhees, Michael Myers, Freddy Krueger, or Leatherface which was fucking stupid. I really wish anybody (Gary Tunnicliffe, for example) who gets a bite at the apple in the future would take a look at The Hellbound Heart and the first two movies and keep them close in mind. As for remakes / reboots, give me a break. Take Dune, for example. I know there are legions of people who whine and complain about David Lynch's movie (not to mention the Sci-Fi Channel mini-series) but as far as I'm concerned Lynch did a good adaptation of the book ("Fuck you!" to the people bitching about the weirding modules, by the way) . Furthermore, Lynch proved that a movie version of Dune could be done. Now everybody's worshipping at the altar of Villeneuve who directed Blade Runner 2049 (cool movie) because it's rumored he's going to helm a two movie adaptation of Dune. Villeneuve's got the chops to pull it off, but big fucking deal. It's been done before. Why doesn't somebody do something really impressive like adapt God Emperor of Dune (and "Fuck you!" to the people saying there's no audience for it [because I don't give a shit] ) ? And while they're at it why doesn't somebody just make a Hellraiser sequel that's worth a damn? I really don't think it's impossible.
U can't really have hell without heaven and so on. I don't think one without the other works. Are they demons? (The cenebits). In the 1st film pinhead says "we are demons to some angels to others". I get the sadomasochist theme and I like it, the pain/pleasure angel. Are the cenebits from hell? He is called the hell priest! What's good is that it can be what u want it too be that's why the film's are good. :)
I never understand why people get vicious about what's in movies (so long as the producers aren't actively insulting you.) I saw the latest Hellraiser. It ok, not my favorite and I feel like it could have had a little more punch in it. But it's not like it was made with hatred towards the fans, or like it was poorly made. It's just a movie with some artistic choices made. Personally I liked seeing heaven come down and interfer with things. I thought that was fun. And that the assessor was an interesting idea.
Maybe David Fincher would be good. As long as he takes the same mysterious direction he did in seven. Go with a more unsettling tone, rather than just gore. Just my thoughts
Who would make a good Hellraiser remake? First thought that came to my mind was Tim Burton, but then I thought better of it. The next thought that came to my mind was Sam Raimi of "Evil Dead" fame, but then I thought better of it. David Lynch? No. Dario Argento? No. Stuart Gordon? No. David Cronenberg!!!
Personally, I thought there were many good points about judgement, I'd like Gary to continue with a bit more cash. Keep it lowish budget and make an uncompromising film - make something not many people would want to watch. If big budget, Gary recommended Hereditary - which is incredible, so Ari Aster would be my pick for someone else who might actually understand the subject matter.
Takashi Shimizu would be perfect. He directed Ju-On, Ju-On 2, Reincarnation, and several other J-Horror movies. He even directed the American adaptations of The Grudge and The Grudge 2. He understands subtle horror, which is really what we need for Hellraiser. Subtle horror that is reliant on tone and atmosphere, not jump scares and effects. Since he doesn't rely on jump scares it makes them more powerful when he actually uses them. I also insist that any any Hellraiser movie by a hard R. It won't work if it isn't an R rated movie.
Good Interview, looking forward what's coming up with Hellraiser in the future. And: A white Pinhead?! What have i missed O.o ......... Oh and btw. Gary played his role in Judgment very good! Edit 3.0 lol What u guys discuss there and what Clive plant etc....i HOPE there will be never a Movie like that... Pinhead in White O.o No...nonono....lol I hated the cliche white high heels Angel figure...it's just...no! lol Cenobites in white or designs in white...ok, that could be cool with all the guts and the blood, but please NOT on Pinhead....that's just...no XD
It wasnt very clever for my tastes. Im just not into Heaven vs hell plots or Hell vs Hell. Its been done so many times and i think better writing can be done in the right hands. If i wanna read heaven vs hell subplots ill pick up some old Spawn issues.
Haven't watched this whole video yet because of time but I did scroll through it a little. With the next interview video can you turn up the volume a bit. All the other interviews with this man were quiet for me as well. Not unwatchable, just a little hard to hear
I could try, but for me the sound is peaking, so its difficult to get a happy medium, you're the first to mention it sadly, if more did, then be a quicker identifiable fix.
@@MrHReviews odd, it's your only series that is quieter for me. not a big deal. keep the videos coming :) EDIT: I am running on 2.1 stereo, maybe that?
I'd love to read the scripts/treatments from Bustillo and Maury, and the one by Pascal Laugier. If anyone has them then please let me know. Nicholas Pesce would be a great choice to direct. He has made some supremely fucked-up movies so far, but with an arthouse bent.
as far as directors, i don't know, but here's a off the wall suggestion: hellraiser: animated. look a bit to japanese erotic animation. Hard R animation, go into the sexual elements a bit...have to be straight to video, though.
I feel bad for Hellraiser already, if they cant make what they think is a good movie quot then stop trying already. Gee the last movie was awful dont you get it Hollywood.
Gary seems like a great guy, he loves the hellraiser franchise but to be honest he just doesn't "get it". His movie, budget aside and given full freedom (given his first interview with H) still wouldn't be what the first two were. And although i rather he make them than the others i dont think he will ever make one as good. The core of what hellraiser is gary cant emulate, we need Clive barker! Atmosphere, psychological horror and suspense needs an artists hand.
I think Gary entirely gets it. Give him time and a budget and I think you'd get a very strong point of view. Clive lost me entirely with scarlet gospels, after such expectation, I've never been so disappointed. Then to listen to Clive's treatment - it wasn't good enough. Love Clive, but if his interest has moved on in the last 30 years, then so be it.
@@shaneanderson2775 i think clives only interested in hellraiser when the irs are sniffing around and he needs to cough up some money (no pun intended). Gary seems to have the passion but i agree that he does n't get it . As soon as they both brought Christianity into it i thought someone else needs to take the reins here. Hellraiser origins was the best way to move forward . Dimension need to realize it will never be the cash cow it once was if these same guys are at the healm, including themselves
I mean, that's enough already. Just sell the rights and be done. I really don't give a shit about the color Pinhead's garments must be,this is stupid ( the suit is still black in the last movie, but the design is lame and cheap looking). But I do give a shit about the quality and the story. Something we will not likely see in the future as long as Dimension, or Gary for that matter, have their hooks on the material.
Hellraiser Judgment was lame , I was waiting for the Core, Not some paper chewer throwing up to 3- naked Juries, Take a page of AMERICAN HORRIOR Stories , If these film are suppose to get a Reboot -Halloween, Predators, Aliens, Friday the 13, they're doing a lame job'
