"The Gays For Gaza People Are Idiots" - Douglas Murray 

If Gays for Gaza go to Gaza, they'll be b***ered.

@ChrisWillx 02:40 Pretty surprised by Douglas Murray comparing Israel's "colonisation" to general immigration. When you immigrate, you integrate into the country you're joining. The intention of Israel was/is to create a new homeland. Honestly, this is all too complicated for me to form a concrete opinion on, but the comparison above felt off. For some context, here's a quick summary of the early formation of Israel: - In 19th century Europe, the agenda to establish a Jewish homeland was initiated by Theodor Herzl and other Jewish leaders who were responding to the widespread anti-Semitism and persecution of Jews, particularly in Eastern Europe and Russia. - Herzl organized the first Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland, in 1897, which established the World Zionist Organization and promoted Jewish immigration to Ottoman Palestine with the goal of creating a Jewish state. - Small numbers of Jews, known as the Old Yishuv, had been living in Palestine for centuries. But it was the waves of Jewish immigrants (Aliyahs) beginning in the late 19th century that laid the foundations for a future Jewish state. - During World War I, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour issued the Balfour Declaration in 1917, which expressed support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then a territory of the Ottoman Empire. After the war, Britain took control of Palestine under a League of Nations mandate. - From 1920 to 1948, Britain administered Palestine. This period was marked by growing Jewish immigration, land purchases, and community building, but also rising tensions between Jewish and Arab communities. - The extermination of six million Jews during the Holocaust in World War II generated international sympathy for the plight of Jews and increased pressure for a Jewish homeland. .... and then it gets increasingly complicated.

how true is it that people will say something like republicans are all racists or liberals are all anarchists without actually challenging that they believe in what they are saying. It's an intellectual laziness. That liberal is just crazy. That Republican is just racist. It's laziness to the max.

I appreciate both you and Douglas, but some of the things said in jest truly are done in poor taste: laughing at the tall buildings joke, thinking that equating immigrants to colonisers is sound reasoning... I'm sorry, man, but it's not; it's far more nuanced than that, and this just smacks of you two harping on about the latest "current thing" without actually really trying to understand the nuances in question: gay people CAN be pro-Palestine in the sense that they condemn what can only be described as a humanitarian disaster in Gaza at present; immigrants can never be colonizers if they don't have the economic, political or social capital to subjugate the indigenous population and bend it to your will for some ideological, nationalistic or religious. You guys really are better than this, so apply yourselves and act like it.

Don't let us break your hearts, we will not compromise Islam. The only way you will be accepted by us, is if you leave the ignorant ways of your forefathers, your pagan nations, your immoral values and submit to Allah ﷻ who created you, and you believe with certainty in the Day of Judgement and you establish the 5 Daily Prayers in the Mosques and pay the Zakat. So if you deny Allah ﷻ and say you will turn to dust and vanish into non-existence until lgbt became fair-seeming to you, then you need to repent, purify yourself and believe and do what we do in order to support us. But if you are stubborn with your falsehood, then listen to this homosexual, because we will not accept you. Allah سبحانه وتعالى said, فَإِن تَابُوا وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتَوُا الزَّكَاةَ فَخَلُّوا سَبِيلَهُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ But if they repent and perform As-Salat (the Five Obligatory Prayers), and give Zakat, _then leave their way free._ Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. [At-Taubah 9:5] إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا الَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ الزَّكَاةَ وَهُمْ رَاكِعُونَ Verily, your Wali (Protector or Helper) is none other than Allah, His Messenger (ﷺ), and the believers; those who perform As-Salat (the Five Obligatory Prayers), and give Zakat, and they are Raki'un (those who bow down or submit themselves with obedience to Allah in prayer). [Al-Maa'idah 5:55]

Well said.

Turkeys for Christmas Crocodiles for leather bags Children for sweatshops

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Don't forget, long hair of young girl's for president Biden

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I didnt get it ?

@@TheTeeProd Please don't make me explain it.

You got no class matw

"Top storey, one might say..."

@@TheTeeProd He said it right at the beginning of this video lol. He's not wrong though. There's currently not enough tall buildings in Gaza due to "obvious reasons." 👀

wait for it, the left always outdoes its own stupidity.

Guys SCROLL DOWN to the bottom of these threads. The comments are vastly different and should give you an idea of the bot manipulation on this platform.

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Here in Germany, lefty feminists / queer-feminists support the muslims. If islam takes over, I will watch closely what will happen to those feminists! (Volker Pispers)

Thought it was held in a tunnel network right underneath the UNWRA building... By Allah, Ahmed must have screwed up the invites for all the foreigners to behea... I mean valued journalists to conduct interviews.

ended 10 seconds later on the pavement, those Gaza lifts sure are fast, 9.81 m/s fast

I thought someone would drop them

​@@davidrentonthat's gravity's acceleration but still, adequate

and the guests got stoned as well.

That just means there are plenty rocks around. Just saying..

Why don't you go to Gaza?

Rocks and rubble: Allow us to introduce ourselves

lots of stones tho

or just the middle east in general.

TikTok pro palastine influncers

What do you think most religious jews in israel think about you being a homosexual? Just because a government says its fine to be gay there doesnt mean it is in practice, remember the civil rights movement in the us? Its ok to be black aslong as you dont want to be looked at as a human, i bet theres more jews in the closet in israel than there is in the us,

Being gay and not wanting the innocent civilians of Gaza to be indiscriminately bombed to death is not stupidly naive or supporting Hamas. Do you have any humanity at all?

@@geeunit831 that’s not the issue. we all want to see the palestinian people thrive. the irony is what would happen if palestine was freed or hamas was able to carry out all its wants. if this goal the “the gays for gaza” want actually happens. there would be another country they wouldn’t be allowed to visit for safety reasons. unlike how gay people in israel have equal rights and are welcomed by the nation. it’s like a chicken saying they want more KFCs to open instead of chicken safety areas.

@@kayasnyder2042 There are many issues with this conflict... This goes beyond "Hamas bad, Israel good" Ask yourself why Hamas exists in the first place? I don't care if Hamas or anyone else for that matter live by Sharia law. First and foremost the Palestinian people deserve the right to live. They deserve the right to live freely on their own land. They deserve the right to clean water, food, electricty and all the basic necessities of life. They deserve the right to have their own airport, control their own land space and maritime space, they deserve the right to travel freely within their own boarders, to build the necessary infrastructure to be a thriving society. They deserve to live in peace without being indiscriminately bombed every 2 years by their US backed neighbours who have one of the largest armies and most advanced defense systems in the world. The US and many other Christian countries have only legalised gay marriage or even decriminalised gay sex in recent times. Many Christian countries still don't allow gay marriage so we don't get to be the moral compass of society when our own gay rights track record is abysmal itself.

Yep stoning to death one of the worse ways to go

It's all Muslim countries and Russia

Islam also gets it right on women too. White men should learn from them

Just about all. But ok in Isreal..

*HAMAS. Gay Palestinians exist

​@@ES-gv6xl yeah Never asked what happened to ahmad abu murkiyeh

@@ES-gv6xl LGBTQ+ Palestinians are thrown off buildings.

Only 4% Palestinians supports LGBT ​@@ES-gv6xl

​@@ES-gv6xl Palestine is Muslim-majority. Islam forbids homosexuality. Gay Palestinians exist but aren't allowed to

Not just in America. We have some pretty stupid ones here in Australia too

@@Jennianner Definetly. They all seem to live in West end in Brisbane... other inner suburbs in major capital cities in a fantasy land of self delusion

​@@JenniannerSame thing over here in New Zealand. Its pretty much the entire free world.

​​@@Tha3rdworldghost New Zealanders openly supports Israel, atleast on socials.

so if you are gay, you cant have a problem with civilians being bombed every day?

Aw hell no xd its the entire System and especially social media

Uk public education is a joke as well

From Australia 🇦🇺 what's happening in USA 🇺🇸. What problem do you have and how do unions come into what issue it is. Surely it I s not as bad as WW11 COME on now

​@@GHOULY782RUPERT MURDOCH PROPAGANDA MACHINE is a real problem

​@@sdrawkcabUKwhat Is wrong with a public system. Which one

stay safe and slay the day

Last time everyone checked, hamas are not really pro-gay. Quite anti-gay in fact.

That’s why it’s called a teaser. lol

He can and will. Why? He wants us to be in a great deal of pain.

I mean you can just look up, anti immigration, anti multiculturalist, pro israel shill and you pretty much have duggy. Never seen a guy so out of his depth when talking about israel and palestine. Literally doesnt have a scooby.

You are right !! Like Douglas and what he stands for ! Thanks Chris !!👍🕊💛

I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.” ― Smedley D. Butler, War is a Racket" a short book from 1935. Christopher Bollyn , historian and investigative journalist. Author of Solving 9-11 set of books and The War on Terror and The Plot to Rule the Middle East gives the dark insights into zionism and their deeds.

Good. Britain needs to wake the F up.

Yeah, and I am fully signed up for it.

I love it! 💕

And thank god he is. We couldn't ask for anyone better.

Lmao funny how he just now is upset but when his country was being destroyed for years by Arab immigrants he was quiet. I wonder what changed

Indeed

You couldn't make it up lol 😂 completely absurd concept

Your both Nazis? Wooopppeeeee!!!! 😑

Your both Fascists Woooopppeeee! 😑

​@@bubullibooooo9928this has to be a joke, I bet you don't even know what fascism is

@@drossant2591 If I write that word my comments get deleted. But yeah bunch of Nazis

Well us brits absolutely love your accent too! ❤

No, he doesn't.

Dude? How cheap!! Check your language

Yeah no he doesn’t

He gets zion. In through the out door is how Murray likes it.

Tool 🤘

Not 90% and not even 50%. The dumber and more naive 20% would be more accurate

@@vipcypr8368 Oh do explain

Bro, I wish it was 90%

90% 😂😂😂

you are absolutely hilarious. 90%........Hilarious! What a time to be alive.

Actually, I heard it was a real hit

@@nicj5354 on the side walk lol

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What’s with this ideology today where political correctness is dictated by the minority yet adhered to by govt/local council, who were elected by the majority . 🤷🏻‍♀️

They do remember that the Palestinians and other Hardcore Arab Muslims are extremely Anti-Gay, Anti-Lesbian and just Anti-LGBTQ in general?! Heck, they themselves made a big fuss about this, so why the Heck are they suddenly siding with them, especially when the Palestinians and other Hardcore Arab Muslims are still going to be so Anti-LGBTQ with no intention of changing and actually doubling down on it?!

​@cinbur4362 you don't quite have it right. The government heads are elected by the majority yes, but choose to either cater or vilify whatever minority is popular at the time while excluding or manipulating the majority for their own benefit. In other words, we vote them in, they choose a target, mass manipulation, more votes, more money, zero fucks about honesty

Stay strong xx

Sending you love and prayers

Love and prayers to you and all of Israel ❤

There are many of us gentiles out there who are also heart broken and savagely angry at what hamas has done to Israel's children. Love from Australia.

@@johnallen7367 I second this as another Aussie. Do you think the anti-Israel protesters will try to disrupt Remembrance Day protests on Saturday? If so I think ordinary Aussies should show up and show them they can’t harass people and damage property.

English not british

@@ginapilkington3204he views himself as British

His father is a Scott @@ginapilkington3204

@@ginapilkington3204 Whatever, grammar police!!! do u always find it neccessary to correct people, it's insulting Stop It!!!!

@@ginapilkington3204nah, he’s got Scottish in him pal so 🤫

he's like the incarnation of enoch powell's "rivers of blood" speech

He's British, get your own lol

You have Dr. Thomas Sowell. But the only downside is that he is old. On the bright side, he has published many books

I love how they "logically" toss away hypocrisy and people still call them "logical"

He is British and also you have Bill Maher, he is good

Why doesnt this system spread to other countries?

So you’re the other sane one, I thought Douglas was the only last common sense gay

Hey. I am just curious why do u support Israel. Geopolitics has become a very complex matter so would love if u help me. Have a great day, hugs. Koni

@terrytrevor Many people seem to be under the impression that same-sex rights were universally won when the debate hit a peak a decade ago with and the US legalised gay marriage. In reality, a very significant chunk of the globe is still very anti-gay (not just anti-gay-marriage but anti-gay-survival)... with Muslim populations pretty universally that way. @VineGrove123 The live together and make it work attitude works as long as the culture that gave rise to that success persists. Mass immigration and generous asylum is replacing that culture with the culture of failed states, especially when combined with the indoctrination of a certain religion and the higher breeding rate that enables the proliferation of that religion. What is democracy if the population of a country undergoes a seismic shift away from the native culture within a generation or two? @davidtiger very simple. If any other nation had its citizens mass murdered and hundreds kidnapped, it would be entirely reasonable for that nation to pursue the destruction of the kidnappers and the release of those hostages (the latter as an absolute minimum). If kidnappers and murders are granted impunity as long as they hide among a civilian population (much of which supports them anyway in this case), kidnap and murder are essentially legalised. Naturally there's more to it than that but that is a fundamental.

@@_anon464 Your reply was thoughtful and correct.

There is a very big difference to the views of the current Israeli regime and a large percentage of jews world wide, your comments make no sense.

Yes he is brutely blunt , Good man

Gays for Gaza is a joke 😂😂😂

brutally blunt, racist and full of fear.

@@Maxatrillion08 what specifically did he say that you disagreed with? I'll await your reply

@@overthewebb You can be a gay person and still recognize the suffering and humanity of others who may disagree with your sexual orientation. I don't think any sane empathetic person with a soul wants to see innocent people murdered.

He’s British

@@madamededal I think the commentor is referring to himself as being Canadian.

Here here. Douglas Murray gets it. Mad respect from this Canadian as well. Our country is melting under the stress of repressive tolerance at the moment. We need strong, classically liberal voices to make their ascendency back to the common discourse. It's shocking how quickly everything was taken over by commissariats, and how easily it is for people to espouse equity based virtues like they are second nature. People are starting to think in terms of dialectical materialism and it leading to Lysenkoism across multiple domains. I worry that it's too big to fail because we didn't worry about this sooner. That makes people like Douglas Murray very valuable for society right now.

watch him piss his pants if HE was ostracized or exiled, he'd cry and whimper and he's your 'man'...

@@hardrock1826 herself 👍😉

Send him to have a gay demo in Gaza.

Cows for Taco bell. Chickens for Chick-fil-a.

@@crazyasalways9272bru

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​@@crazyasalways9272no contexts adds any valid sense to gays for Palestine slogan

Anything for power, even self destruction

Plead know Douglas gets a lot wrong and that’s causing people who want to fight against the bad guys attack the wrong people.

@@Sarah-with-an-H What did he get wrong that made people who want to fight against the bad guys attack Israel? As far as I'm aware all the good guys support Israel.

@@Sarah-with-an-Hwhat is Douglas getting wrong? No one is perfect but I think Douglas is right much more than wrong.

@@roberthickerty390 Everything he’s blaming the wrong people for the problems

Bro women in Gaza don't have sanitary pads and are getting uterine infections as a result. This is not about a priveleged pageant girl.

Turn off the telly.

Thanks for supporting genocide, colonialism and war crimes, confirmed by Human Rights Watch, Amnesty...

@@arzamas1826 fk hamas

Absolutely! So refreshing to have someone like him that just speaks for so many people who haven't yet been sucked into this crazy and bizarre vortex of delusion.

Could you edit this comment to "Chickens for KFC".

it's not truth it's his opinion. You can be gay and still recognize the right and humanity of Palestinian babies to not killed in bombs. It's not that difficult guys.

@@Maxatrillion08 Can you also recognize the right of Israel to defend itself against Islamist fanatics who not only routinely kill babies and other civillians on both sides of the border, but have it as their explicit goal? Or is it too much to ask for?

​@@Maxatrillion08and as soon as that baby is big enough he'll throw you of the roof.

Is his boyfriend just as adorable and as funny as him . ?

Slogans always appeal to ignorance.

​@@neilreynolds3858They do. The same fools should follow football & then they could chant all they like, have a good laugh with all the camaraderie & no harm done. 😁

Well, it's completely benign. They are just asking for living room. (Poe's law warning, Godwin's Law warning - yeah, I used a translation of a German word with a horrible history). Personally, I have sympathy for the Palestinian people. They are under rough conditions and I don't see this changing any time soon. Don't have sympathy for the PLO, Hezbollah, Hamas and those who funded them. But what is the solution? We had the Oslo Accords which couldn't fully go through partly from the assassination of the Israeli PM who was a leader in the negotiations. Don't see moderate voices on the Palestinian side, and expect that Hamas, etc. would get rid of those in short order if there were any. Not optimistic the current Israeli military adventure will produce much in long term resolution to this, any more than the adventure into Lebanon did in the 1980s.

It's funnier still that most of them are illegal occupiers/colonizers of First Nations lands. But there's not large groups of Native Americans committing acts of violence in North America. Still, anyone that radically against the idea of colonialism, should go back to ancestors' homelands.

My fellow Americans that struggle with basic geography are often the ones that have yet to produce a working model of their 'Flat Earth' and are open to the idea that shape-shifting alien lizards are living at the North Pole.

Which is why I prefer to listen to those who use reason and logic than those who can't even think outside of their emotions.

Douglas lives in NYC. So we do have someone like him here.

The US has Ben Shapiro

I wish there were more like him in Israel 😅❤ so refreshing

You do he lives there

He got that gay guy sass!

He has that British dry sense of humor. I have it too. It does make it difficult for people to realize you are kidding. My friends have even said that it has taken them 2 days to realize something I said was a joke. Probably because a little bit of it isn't . Lol

Have you seen the episode of Boyscast with him? It was awesome.

uhhhh HIIGH KEY

@@inthefade I never heard of that. Sounds downright ghey. I guess that's the joke.

You can keep him.

But you'll need many more of him to get America straight. All clear thinkers need to get stuck in and help

​@@lamueldagon7618did he hurt your fee fees?

Unfortunately I’m pretty sure he’s an expat not an immigrant. Shame, we’d love to have him.

As much as I love Murray he's an entire continent away from the genius of Sowell. Let's check back in 2060 to see where the land lies yeah?

No he isn’t….show me one serious debate he has partaken in ??

Both these men are intellectual giants, love them both!

Brothers from another mother

Naah ....I do appreciate both immensely but Douglas Murray is nowhere near to being the cerebral powerhouse Thomas Sowell is. Douglas Murray is much more eloquent with a razor-sharp wit while Thomas Sowell is much more thoughtful in his replies as the academic he is ought to be.

Go tell this to drs nurses and un ppl on the ground . So easy to talk like that we are far away

Catnip means?

One big problem though is Douglas doesn’t actually understand what is going on so his ideas are actually creating problems because it’s not reality.

​@@Sarah-with-an-Hhi Sarah, I think he knows exactly what is going on, I think he knows his history, he knows his politics. I do feel his anger is blinding him somewhat though.

@@snoitanicullah Oh he doesn’t and he never has but yet you were convinced he’s correct about everything

@@snoitanicullah Do you realize that the same people same group that caused World War II or causing all the problems we are having today are you aware of that I am do you think Douglas is aware that he sure not saying it

Except he doesn’t state the facts and shows he has a racist bias

Honestly..... We all are 😅

Thank God there aren’t. The dude’s a bigot who doesn’t think he’s a bigot

@@batistaandreymyst Say thanks to Allah, there is no need to thank God. God is with us.

Devastating combo 😁

Oh what a good idea. He must be the next James Bond!!!!

You need to get acquainted with the work of one of the world's greatest cultural commentators. He isn't just 'this guy'. !

:))) love this comment

And the ethics of hitler.

It's not education any more it's indoctrination

The irony

One thing that I find interesting is that the word “brainwashing” seems to have lost all objective meaning. It’s now completely subjective and politically based. I go through right wing and left wing comments and they all seem to think that the other side is “brainwashing” children.

What a massively ignorant thing to say lmao

Do you still watch TV?

@@alanc6781yeah I do mate, what’s your question? Or did you come on here to put a random comment up then scurry off under your bed

If he's on TV, they'll cancel him

Who cares, tv is dying. People spend more time on their phones getting their info than television. Majority of people on here would likely watch more RU-vid than tv.

It's so cultish seeing thousands of identical worshipping comments on anything even remotely political. Is it really so hard for people to just see another human and go "huh. Anyways"

Not just Hamas terrorise gays but the Islamic religion in general

Would your mother support the collective punishment, a war crime of the bombing of over 12,000 civilians, over half of which are children?

@@SallySturman: That’s a drop in the ocean compared to the number of German civilians (including children) killed by British bombs in WW2, in order to achieve ‘regime change’ in Nazi Germany. (The number is about 350,000 by the way). Oh, in case you’re wondering, the Germans only killed 60,000 British civilians during WW2. So we killed 6 times as many German civilians as they did of ours.

So Israel are doing the same as the British and you support it? I don't. @@timonsolus

@@SallySturmanWhen did Hamas warn the Israelis and delay their operations for weeks in order to minimize civilian casualties? Oh, that’s right, the IDF did that with Gazans; Hamas didn’t allow the civilians to leave…

I think that's cos he's gay. It turbo charges your wit and forthrightness

@@Denis.Collins Any chance you remember what's the name of the clip? I have to see that lmao.

As a gay boy what I love about douglas murray is that he doesn't make being gay his whole persona. For a while I thought he was just a flamboyant speaking straight man because he rarely mentions he's gay.

@@Denis.Collins lol okay pal. You’re gonna make stuff up then go for it

He never makes it about his sexuality. He argues with intellect, not cat fights and bitchiness. This interview here is a tad more lighthearted. He overpowers you with knowledge, not voice projection.

Check out the ‘Triggernometry’ interview with him, a full hour!

take his opinions and go out and tell them to a few people in birming ham on the the street. GO ON!, you want them all on boats or WORSE, YOU take some yourself!!!

Get audio book ' War on the west' and put it on loop ...job done...you're welcome!😅

women should join more on the front line, OH NO WAIT> THERE'S NONE!! LOL

The truth to who?

Holy shit I just finished it yesterday... Definitely agree

Pretending Israel is a democracy is the reason 31000 peoples have been killed in Gaza so i guess AMC was on to something 🤔

Well man... Personally, I don't know any people that supports Hamas. Anyway, there is a lot of people who want to stop killing civilians. Because you are not saying that civilians in Gaza = Hamas. Right?

@akari6859 I'm saying that if you do NOT consider all Gazans within the Hamas-controlled parts parts of the Gaza Strip as hostiles, then you are pretending that the world is something other than what it really is, not recognizing it for what it actually is. In actuality, Hamas has the support of the majority of Gazans. Thus all Gazans within Hamas-controlled territory must be considered hostile. If Gazans do not support Hamas and do not want to be considered as hostile, which certainly some do not, *then they need to surrender to the IDF.* No "humanitarian aid" should go to the Hamas-controlled parts of Gaza, as this would only give Hamas and its supporters physical and emotional comfort and strengthen their will to fight. However, Gazans who have surrendered to the IDF should receive all the food, water, medicine and security that they need, in accordance with the Geneva Convention. I hope this makes clear what I'm saying... (Now watch it get deleted...)

​@@benjauron5873 To some extand I can agree, but as we agree, Hamas are terrorists that made their choice, that position of people living in Gaza is not as simple. I mean, before attack of Hamas on Izrael, what options they had? From their perspective Hamas were they only institution that at least pretend to care of them. Do you really thing that launching rockets at Gaza's people make them: "Yeah, maybe we were bad guys?" or they start to radicalize even more? We still don't forget that the families of killed civilians living outside of Gaza will start to activly support Hamas, just for pure lust for revange. Also, do you really think the children living inside Gaza are hostile too? Or maybe do you think that teh should surrender to IDF? If they survive, what that childern will remember? That part is sounds for me ridicoulus, because from their point of view, IDF are aggresors and occupants. Do you really think that the averge citizen of Gaza known about plan of Hamas attack? Do you really think that the main leaders of Hamas are inside of Gaza or they are hiding safety in Saudian Arabia, where they get money form whealthy shaikhs? And don't pretend that Israel's government was always fair to the gazans Despite all of that I just wonder where it lead to.

Not a Jordan Peterson fan? They seem fairly like minded

@@kpax45Naurrr they’re very different in personality and temperament

@@kpax45 Different notes. Jordan Peterson feels like the more serious one. A professor (as he is) communicates information and debates differently than Douglas Murray, who feels more like a philosopher and thinker and has a less “serious” demeanour to him until he gets annoyed. So… tldr: - Peterson = More Professional-like. A lecture, but it’s not dry and boring. - Murray = More informal, like reading a book near a cozy fireplace. Both are good. But they hit a different note, which each person has their own preferences.

Because Douglas vocalizes the thoughts Chris is too reserved to let out.

it was personal thats why he laughed

Get his book The Madness of Crowds. Excellent read! Read during Covid lock downs