The Genetic Link to Abnormal Clotting in Long Covid | With Dr Jordan Vaughn 

Seriously

I know, it sometimes feels like I am living in a third world country. We have been pushed into the margins and people don't realize how serious this is. Thanks to Gez, we can do more than slowly die, we can try the info he provides.

If you took the jab you know why you have long Covid!

Agree...there seems to be little help here in Arizona. I found a sports medicine practice that offers treatment in Phoenix but it took over 2 years of looking. The University in Tucson had a program that was full with patients and the Mayo Clinic in Phoenix didn't take my Medicare insurance.

@@randolphwilliams2365 After waiting over seven months post Dr. referral to UCHealth, I did complain and was immediately responded to. The Dr. put me on Naltrexone, an RX compound. It is helping, took down inflammation, pain, at first more stamina, then some energy, tho pacing is still necessary. Regardless, I am really hopeful now. I'm sure it doesn't work for everyone, but it has helped me. Of course I do the pt recommendations too. I wish you wellness and positive progress!

Where is he please? Name of clinic? I’m losing hope.

@@MinouMinet MedHelp in Birmingham, AL

What kind of treatment is involved in your case?

@@waggawaggaful Thank you!

What does he do for treatment for the blood clotting etc?

Many of the symptoms of coming from the inoculation

Great to hear that!

Same here and less crampingnin my legs

what is the recommended dosage for both supplements? Thanks

Serratopeptase aint good long term. It's like any other blood thinners out there.

What is the serratopeptase for? Do you have to take it in conjunction with natto?

Best of luck with your recovery Ella!

@@RUNDMC1 ditto

Keep pushing for answers I too have suffered over two years without diagnosis I've said all along that I have something that came from covid I can't find a Dr that specializes in this area

What dose?

@@AngelofD69 I switched from 1000 units E to Tocotrienols because someone on here said regular Vit E was contraindicated for LC, and they suggested Tocotrienols, which is still an E. I take 300 mg daily and could probably handle more, but what I am doing presently. Found the Nattokinase and Serraptase combined in one capsule and take one a day, from Solaray, reputable company. N/S is 3000 FU each. My body was used to high levels of the E and provided pain relief for arthritis, thus my decision to slowly increase the Tocotrienols up to 300 mg daily. I may go higher, but right now am feeling improved after only a week. I found it at Natural grocers/Vitamin Cottage, probably available elsewhere as Solaray has been a reliable company for many years. (to me). There were other brands, I went with familiar. I hope you have same results and wish you the very best!

Nattokinase also suppresses some viral & B/T cell DNA replication, presumably by interfering with one of the kinase pathways involved with phosphorylation, so it's probably best not to take it all the time. NAC may also be helpful.

its worm poo i tried it and got hives! be careful😮

Nattokinase is supposed to be taken on an empty stomach. Food will keep it from being absorbed into the body.

Don’t forget viral persistence…

Many of the symptoms are coming from the inoculation

Which test did you request?

@@browneyedgirlFL67 I requested the Plasminogen Activator Inhibitor-1. I have not heard back from my provider yet.

That’s so kind of you - thank you Martha!

Best of luck with your continued recovery Hanna!

Do you just take 1 baby aspirin daily? Would you say you are around 80% healed? Hopefully...

@@ManTimeT.V. I normally take two per day. If I’ve exercised a bit too much and think I’m at risk for a delayed crash, I’ll take one or two extra. Sometimes that and proactive rest can prevent a problem. 80% sounds reasonable, in terms of where I’m at. Maybe even 85%. I should probably experiment with nattokinase instead of aspirin and try a few other things my doctor has recommended. But I’m basically holding steady and managing work and increasing exercise in a way that looks outwardly normal . . . So I’m hesitant to rock the boat.

@@hannasizemore8028 thats great you are 85%. I have felt that well here and there as well. But I seem to sit around 70-75% most days now, with very few crashes etc. I have worked out on occasion but I don't seem to keep it very steady. I need to get back into that slowly again and build up over time. I work full time and also on call with work every other week, plus I manage to take on some small ish side jobs as well. So I can manage in that sense but I just want to get my breathing back to normal. Wondering if natto could possibly help with that.

@@ManTimeT.V. Honestly, I've been closer to 75% the last two days because I exercised too much on the weekend. And though I technically work full time, it's not the kind of full time I used to work. I wish I could pause work and kids and various things for a month or two (or six!) and make a dedicated effort toward another round of improvement, instead of just hanging on. Anyway, the aspirin was one thing that helped me creep back to regularish exercise. The other thing was low dose naltrexone. That addressed more of the autoimmune stuff, and it only works for some people, but I was one of the lucky ones. I had no idea how much constant joint pain and gut pain I was having until the LDN turned it off. That started a virtuous cycle of improved rest, better mental clarity, less fear of exercise, etc. At any rate: Good luck! I hope the anti-coagulants give you another boost!

I feel you. I used to be healthy, active, vibrant full of energy after covid & still have long covid almost 2 years now. My parents are in their 80's, stronger, healthier, more stamina & endurance than me. Struggling for daily activities

I'm literally in thr same boat . I feel like im going crazy

How much and how often?

​​@@karenm7433 same question.....I took it for one month , one pill on waking up and on going to bed, and kind of felt an improvement but really, all the weird symptoms were still there,,,,

@@karenm7433 One pill a day in the morning.

@@violetasuarezcapri4258 I take one pill a day in the morning. I have improved quite a bit, but still have many of the symptoms. The fatigue has improved though.

@@jaynesierakowska3120 would you recommend a specific brand and dosage? TY!

Thank you Anamaria!

This study in a Turkish population (PMID 36647888) found "No evidence of a correlation between the severity of the disease (covid-19) and all five thrombotic mutations was found, (Five polymorphic loci Factor V Leiden (FVL), FII G20210A, Beta-fibrinogen G-455A, and methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase (MTHFR) C677T and A1298C.

@@juliemottainai6638 Isn't that study limited to the acute phase, not for risk or severity of Long COVID?

Eureka moment me too. Best podcast I have seen on the topic i. A bit. So glad some docs continue to search!

Haha, thanks Rob!

What is all Included with this triple therapy? Have you started natto and or aspirin?

Eliquis, Plavix, aspirin and adding natto last 2 weeks

@@jenellewful do you have to get all these from a doctor? I have nattokinase here on hand but have not yet taken any.

@@jenellewfulany issue with bleeding ? What grade is your microclot

Longcovid can cost people hairloss and career loss - that can be valued at up to 100000d easily. And other treatments and clinics can be about the same or more. There is something that is being used to treat covid. We have used it on two occasions and it did seem to lessen symptoms and shortened duration of COVID. It is also in official medical testing as a treatment. It is called ArtemiC Rescue and there is also an after treatment for Longcovid that is called ArtemiC Support. They have some videos on RU-vid about it This is one of the few products for Covid that has had medical testing done on it.

Nattokinase if you’re not on it already

​@@MrKelso85 I rook it and saw no major change. Surely its more complex than just a pILL? THE BODY seems to be stuck in perpetual production of lotsnof nasty things

​@@WomblingWombat74careful with aspirin. It can lead to brain bleeding issues.

​@@andrewstrakele6815LOTS of good info there Andrew. It has to be attacked from multiple angles and stress, nutrition and sleep are vital for it. I'm an overtrainer/overachiever of course. I train and push thru things. It's how I was raised and allowed me to perform in life but am very aware that I've hurt my body to no end by putting it thru constant physical and emotional stress non stop for 35 years. I also have family priors of heart and autoimmune issues on both parents' sides.

@@violetasuarezcapri4258 - Hi Violeta! You are unfortunately correct. Recovery from Long COVID will require more than just a Pill. It typically involves Inflammation of the Brain which causes dysfunction of the Autonomic Nervous System - the Body’s Control Center. Body functions like Heart Rate, Release of Hormones, and Digestion, performed automatically by the ANS are disrupted , resulting in a myriad of symptoms throughout the Body. As I discussed in my previous reply to @Karen M74, I believe Long COVID is the end result of Chronic Stress, causing a complete breakdown of the innate Immune System. The acute COVID infection or vaccine injury is merely a trigger resulting in the chronic dysfunction of an ALREADY COMPROMISED Immune System. It is a Metabolic Disease that requires changes in Lifestyle as well as Mindset. In the video, Long COVID: Life is Not Fair, JUST ROB discusses how you need to Believe you Can Recover, Choose NOT to be a Victim, and CHOOSE to be Happy to eliminate the repetitive cycle of negative thoughts and develop the proper Mindset to begin Recovery. The video, Long COVID: Healing With Polyvagal Theory is also worth watching. After adopting the correct Midset, the next steps are: - Reduce Chronic Stress by becoming a Student of Improved Sleep Habits to Maximize Deep Sleep - Manage Stress through Meditation and Breathwork - Become a Student of Proper Nutrition by following a Low Carb, Low Inflammatory, Whole Food Ketogenic Diet with Intermittent Fasting (as recommended by Dr. Eric Berg). -perform occasional 3-5 day Prolonged Fasts to stimulate Autophagy, Stem Cell Production, remove/replace Damaged Mitochondria for increased Energy, and completely rest your Immune System. - Become a Student of Supplementation to Optimize your Immune System (Dr. Eric Berg offers a free online course).

So sorry to hear. Do speak up, if you possibly can. You may not convince them, but it may make them more careful. Good luck.

No one seems to want to listen, but I will keep telling my story. Thank you.

POTS is very much curable with brain retraining. DNRS, GUPTA, Primal Trust. I had it so bad I couldn't sit up without my blood pressure tanking. I am fine now. It took about 2 months of commitment to the program. Best of luck!

I’d be very surprised if you’d get this on the NHS :(

That’s very kind of you Andrew - yes, yt doesn’t like commenters putting in links - I think it’s because of previous issues with a plague of spam.

@@RUNDMC1 - I see some people can still do it. I believe the Algorithm has me pegged as a scammer who is trying to lure potential victims to an illegitimate site. The AI has become very good at detecting when I attempt to reference your or Raelan’s Channel, even when I’m not using links or quotes.

@@andrewstrakele6815 That could very well be. I have the same. I guess my previous use of forbidden words such as certain types of pills I have tried have put me on some sort of blacklist. You might have the same problem.

@@andrewstrakele6815 that’s weird! The channel author can usually paste links into replies, i thought it was just the commenters who couldn’t.

@@RUNDMC1 - I USED to paste links into my Conments all the time. It was my form of citation to allow any readers to see the source of the ideas. But I believe you’re correct. I did it so often, it’s likely the Algorithm interpreted it as SpamBot behavior. It started deleting my Comments with Links, so I switched to providing the author’s name, putting the Channel Name and Video Title in Quotes, and hoping the reader could search YT for it. Lastly, I’ve removed the quotes and tried to be even more indirect, but it appears the AI can still pick up I’m trying to get someone to click on another video.. I plan to test doulble-spacing the letters of your name and Channel when I make my next recommendation. 😸 Keep up the Good Work! 👍👍👍

Adverse reactions show up in the first week, at most.

@@patriciahoke4722 up to two years. Research doctors who have been looking into adverse affects from the jab in the States

Any body else recognise this?

There is this condition with the word thrombocytopenia in it which basically says that as blood clots are clumping together there are too few left in the rest of the blood to do what they’re actually supposed to do. That’s one possible explanation as to what you have.

I had chronic blood clots for several months which was the first time ever in my life. They have stopped now. It was difficult.

Go check your platelet count at a lab. Low platelets will cause bleeding! Path nurse here - saw many patients with thrombocytopenia post vax. (Clots also.)

I just had my first appointment with him today. UAB was useless. How are you doing now?

No idea why my comment disappeared. v3 and v4 contain it as rs1799762.

@@matfax Sadly that one isn't in V5 either. Googling it also showed rs34857375 but again not in V5, so I likely won't know any time soon. But it will be interesting for people with tests that contain those SNPs to check.

Is this the same at Factor 5 liden?

@@BJ-bc7sl No this is a different mutation in a different gene.

I’m getting a result that says ‘not genotyped’ when I input rs1799762; am i understanding correctly that ‘not genotyped’ indicates I don’t have this gene?

Great question. That is very interesting. I would like to know too.

The latter :)

Hi, curious what made you stop after 4 weeks? Glad you’re finding things that work for you now!

Yeah I’m having the same thing, but also the enzymes are affecting me differently. Nattokinase doesn’t cause so many side effects, but just a little bit too much of the serrapeptase just catapults me back to the symptoms I had last year (this has happened to me twice and it takes a couple of weeks of very deliberate and active pacing to recover from the relapses). I guess that is to say it is releasing the chemicals which caused the symptoms that are inside the microclots. From what I gather the anticoagulant therapy doesn’t so much break down clots but prevents them from being formed, whereas nattokinase, serrapeptase and even things like garlic help break down clots.

@@ChristyCollins developed a tremor, bruising all over, bleeding in the eyes, depression like I’ve never known, to name but a few of the side effects…

@@jamiesmith4141 Wow, I'm so sorry to hear this! I'm about to start myself but am only on Eliquis. Have the enzymes been helping you at all?

@@teddybearroosevelt1847 your reply is interesting to me when you talk about releasing the chemicals. I’ve had a relapse a year and a half on after having gentle muscle manipulation on my legs. That same day the leg cramps started again. Like I’ve reactivated something :(

Each time you catch covid, and if you're jabbed, that's an ongoing issue ciz your body litterally produces the problem.

I wish I could help! Years ago on the Facebook Support Group there was a woman who explained how to interrogate the raw data from 23&Me. I worked out something about the CCR5 (?) gene from that. BUT...I can't remember when, how. Can someone else help us please?!

I can totally understand that :(

Hello. I am suffering from severe neuropathic pain following mild covid infection. What are your symptoms and have you improved on dr jaco treatment?

@@yuukielric6756I've had severe fatigue and body aches for the past 18 months. Also occasional headaches on the days I am in bed feeling fatigued. Had first acute infection end of March 2022. Body hasn't been the same since. It's been tough the last two months. Today is day 44 of treatment. Symptoms have been worse the last few weeks but I believe I should start seeing improvements in my health from day 60, around the two month mark.

Hello Chris, grateful if you could reply.

@@chriswergedo you have any neurological problems or vision problems from having long Covid?

@@hughcyboran4968 no vision issues but definitely have brain fog and forget recent events, like short term memory loss.

Nope. I'm not v'd and have had awful long covid.

Honestly I don’t have the answer for this - sorry Jonathan!

I was hoping to find that as well, did you find it?

Look of Gez Medinger Jaco Laubscher Long COVID. You’ll find 3 videos.

No, most of his patients had the disease. He seems slyly anti vax.

Yes. Let’s look at the jab. Lots of people are and it’s not looking pretty.

​@@patriciahoke4722you seem to be the sort of person who calls people names for doubting what you believe...Dumb is what i call you.

That sounds like the test. Not sure if heparin affects the test.

Plasminogen Activator Inhibitor-1 (PAI-1) 4G/5G Test Code 11368

Have you tried low fiber diet? Low dose naltrexone, IVIg have helped

So sorry to hear how you're suffering. A low histamine diet along with plenty of Zinc have helped me with my gut issues.

My main issue now is the tip of my finger getting thicker (cracked and hurts) and some numbness

Nope. And most long haulers were infected in the first wave, a year before vaccines were available

It seems like it

​@@RUNDMC1b.s

@@RUNDMC1 Exactly right. This guy seems to have a distinct agenda. I'd tread carefully. A little surprised you even had him on.

D dimer is useless for detecting these types of clots

D-dimer is rarely a good way. I'm taking natto amd anti inflammatory foods often so my d-dimer was excellent.

@@stephangauthier911 yeah I think d dimer doesn't get down to the microclot level.

Watch Gez's video interview with Dr Jaco Laubscher. He explained why D-dimer comes up negative. Basically long Covid makes the blood so sticky that there is no breakdown of the clots so no D-dimer, despite having plenty of clots.

VEGF could be quite helpful as many Long Covid patients have elevated levels. Von Willibrands possibly useful.

Slow to get going!

Fairly certain it's - plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 4g/5g test

Szawacji is correct. From labcorp: Deep vein thrombosis (DVT) and coronary artery disease (CAD) are associated with increased PAI-1 levels (and likely microclots from Covid). Elevated PAI-1 levels may help predict risk of reinfarction in survivors of myocardial infarction, particularly in young individuals. PAI-1 levels tend to be lower in individuals with 4G/5G or 5G/5G genotype compared to a 4G/4G genotype. Pro tip: I know some versions of 23andme raw data have this polymorphism as G/G (5G) or -/G (4g/5g heterozygote) or -/- (4G homosygote). The rsid# is rs1799768. Ancestry may have it too. He mentions hetero carriers make 5X more and homosygotes 10X more, I dont think it is that simple. PAI-1 interacts with hormones, cytokines and other clotting genes like SERPINE that effect total levels. Actually measuring PAI-1 if you are 4g carrier probably the next step (or just direcctly measure and skip the genetic test).

​@@juliemottainai6638your comment was carefully noted down for myself. Thank you very much. I can go forward w what 23 etc I acquired many yrs ago... this vid and your trustable details. Reguards from the UK

His accent is not strong.

This is addressed more in the series I made on microclotting before - note that we don’t have much science / evidence to lean on here in terms of nailing down mechanisms!

Clots are made around fibrins. Also, another Dr believes that spike proteins are not being dissolved; they become trash in the blood. So some Drs on You Tube say NAC and Bromelain taken maybe 30 minutes apart on an empty stomach, will dissolve spike proteins. NAC is an amino acid. Bromelain is from pineapple cores. Then there is dandeline leaf extract. In another You Tube it is claimed that dandelines release about 70% of any spike proteins still connected to their red blood cells. I take nattokeratase to thin blood and break up clots. Serrapeptase you must investigate. This powerful enzyme dissolves unused protein “trash”. It also dissolves scar tissue. I take nattokeratase before breakfast or in the middle of the night. See videos on it. See videos on all these enzymes. Also see videos on Vitamin D3 and K2. And magnesium! I don’t have Long Covid. But a friend of mine does so I study up for her.

If I dont trust a brand, I just use “Drs Best” brand. I think it is a brand by Swanson. I take natto with 1/2 cup of water on an empty stomach. No problems for me. Natto is just fermented soybean.

Yes - every organ has a blood supply - therefore every organ can have clots.

What about granulomatous disease ? I have a granulomatous disease ?????? Thanks

I think phagocytes (WBC) do play a major role in this as they do in many other viral infections like dengue fever. What really happens when you get dengue is that your WBC suddenly and significantly drop to the point that you go into comatose. I am not sure if COVID-19 would also do something similar and I don't know when the body produces sufficient WBC back if they drop. In case of dengue, it usually takes 7-10 days on average if you're lucky. This reduction in WBC in dengue happens in acute phase, I haven't read up on it long-term, but just for your information, dengue also causes a similar post-viral condition called post-dengue fatigue syndrome (PDFS) with a multitude of other debilitating cognitive issues identical to long COVID. There are published articles on PDFS.