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The Genius Plan to Fix (part of) Sydney's Victoria Road (feat.  

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Join the letter-writing campaign here: www.kobishetty.org.au/victori...
Minister for Roads' email: office@graham.minister.nsw.gov.au
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0:00 Intro
0:19 Ko-Fi thanks
1:30 The Struggle of Stroads in Sydney
2:02 The Plan to Fix Victoria Rd
4:14 The Plot Twist...
5:20 What We Can Do
1:19 Better Streets
9:55 Letter Writing Campaign

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5 авг 2024

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@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Join the letter-writing campaign here: www.kobishetty.org.au/victoria_road_letter Contact the Minister for Roads: office@graham.minister.nsw.gov.au
@BuildingBeautifully
@BuildingBeautifully 9 месяцев назад
Victoria Road is the worst, maybe second only to Parramatta Road. I very much despise how the government seem to want to delay renewal of the corridor simply so they can turn around and say “oh, traffic didn’t go down, nothing we can do!” WestConnex was designed to take cars off surface roads and trigger urban renewal, and it is very slimy of politicians to not follow through with this. Thank you for holding them to account, and for letting me be a part of that! (And, of course, thanks for not shooting me this time 😮‍💨)
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Definitely, I really hope the push for renewing Victoria Road keeps the government accountable, it's such an important opportunity. Thanks for being part of the video, it was heaps of fun to shoot!
@hughupton875
@hughupton875 9 месяцев назад
rough time to be wearing the wallabies hat...
@_peepyopee
@_peepyopee 9 месяцев назад
Light rail for Victoria Rd and Parramatta Rd would be fantastic I'd travel on light rail over a bus
@amys500
@amys500 9 месяцев назад
Westconnex was a scam to get money off a corrupt government. No one in the inner west area wanted it or thought it would solve anything.
@kyletopfer7818
@kyletopfer7818 9 месяцев назад
I would LOVE to see you do one about Military Rd! I know you're more a local to the north but Military is arguably worse and there are no Metro or Light Rail or cycling plans.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
I've been meaning to visit the Hayden Orpheum in ages so making a video on military would certainly be a good excuse! I would definitely have to do some research though since I've never lived in the area
@kyletopfer7818
@kyletopfer7818 9 месяцев назад
@@ChrisTopher_Urbanism for a bit of context I believe the Sydney Metro City & SW project originally wanted to design the Victoria Cross station at North Sydney for extra stub tunnels to allow a future branch to Neutral Bay and Mosman but these were taken out of the final project so there is no relief coming. This is despite various reports since the idea of a Metro network in Sydney first appeared which identifying the Dee Why to North Sydney along Military Road corridor as having the highest potential patronage of any candidate Metro region.
@josephj6521
@josephj6521 9 месяцев назад
@@kyletopfer7818yep. Unfortunately the residents don’t seem keen on a metro for some silly reason and they were up in arms to extent the tunnel all the way towards Brookvale. I cannot see anything happening anymore. I’ve given up hope for this city. Too many ugly, noisy, polluting, congested, dangerous, slow stroads.
@kyletopfer7818
@kyletopfer7818 9 месяцев назад
@@josephj6521 don't give up hope, when the three new Metro lines open it will be the first time the majority of Sydneysiders have ever seen modern, reliable, fast, high-frequency, comfortable and dependable mass transport system. It will be a game-changer, it will change the entire city.
@yukko_parra
@yukko_parra 9 месяцев назад
I will admit, every single traffic light that asks pedestrians to wait more than 1 minute (theoretically) should be mandated to have a small sunlight shade, or a tree nearby. Because waiting for 2 minutes in the burning sun without any shade, is horrendous (Darling St and Victoria Road intersection). That one time I went to Rozelle was from Taverner's Hill to CBD via Greenway and Bay Run. Idk how I got to Rozelle, but it was searing hot just waiting under the sun, to cross the road. The lack of trees also meant that the cycling trip was pretty bad up the hill. The Rozelle section was by far the worst section of that trip, sorry to say.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Yep it can get horrific on those kinds of intersections on hot days. It's even worse on busy roads since cars produce heaps of heat. Ideally there wouldn't even be any 1min+ pedestrian crossings as well since studies have shown people start taking risks after 30 seconds, so experts recommend 30 seconds as the maximum pedestrian wait time
@joshtirado7337
@joshtirado7337 9 месяцев назад
I think the design of the bus lane should be more align to evolve into a Tram line
@shawngowans5657
@shawngowans5657 9 месяцев назад
Love it when you and Sharath work together, it just works.
@AheadMatthewawsome
@AheadMatthewawsome 9 месяцев назад
I go to Rozelle via Victoria Road quite frequently for appointments. I used to cycle to Rozelle via the Beam bikes that were available. It was one of the only journeys in Sydney that was actually practical by bike. Beam was bad, but it was better than no bike at all! And they had some infrastructure! Not good ones, but better than the rest of Sydney! But then the bike decided one day to lock randomly in the middle of the road while crossing Victoria Road. They then decided to stop allowing them to go to all of the Inner West so now I’m forced to take buses which often get stuck in traffic and get dangerously overcrowded. A light rail line and cycleway along Victoria Road is desperately needed and would make it significantly safer to use Victoria Road! I’m not the only one who gets terrified of the intersection of Victoria Road & Darling Street! Please also fix up Darling Street as that’s a slightly smaller stroad, but still a 4 lane stroad! But they’ll probably never listen to me… Nether the less, thanks for making this video! You just got a new subscriber!
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your experiences! It's a shame about the way bike share has been rolled out in Sydney, most cities have regular bike share stations that share bikes have to get parked and charged at rather than being left around the area where they can become obstacles and more easily become damaged. Definitely add your voice and story to the letter writing campaign I've linked to! I think it would be a really valuable contribution.
@robertmoore512
@robertmoore512 9 месяцев назад
Another Video could show some of the problems of the existing shared paths, such as the lack of bicycle lights at Robert St, bumpy kerb ramps, unprotected side street crossings, such as Springside St.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Definitely. The Victoria Road shared path is quite the obstacle course
@jack2453
@jack2453 9 месяцев назад
Good luck! Today Victoria Road, tomorrow Parramatta Road, King Street, Oxford Street.
@markleon411
@markleon411 9 месяцев назад
I got excited when I saw Victoria Road in the title but you are only referring to a very small section. The bigger issue for me is the lack of transport across the lower northern suburbs. Victoria Road is perfect for a light rail line. To travel from anywhere in the north to Parramatta, you must either take a bus or train down to Strathfield and change to the western line. The light rail could even go the entire length of Victoria Road. It could link up with the Inner West line at one end and the new Parramatta light rail at the other. It's a clear route.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Yep while the IWC's solution is great, it is mostly about mitigating through traffic's impact on Rozelle. Light rail would for sure nip a large portion of that through traffic in the bud and provide better quality of life to those north-west suburbs.
@robertmoore512
@robertmoore512 9 месяцев назад
Could light rail get up the steep approach on Gladesville Bridge? Actually, that bridge is too high- no shipping goes under it now that the Navy doesnt use Newington Armoury. Could demolish and build a new, lower one!
@humanecities
@humanecities 9 месяцев назад
Loved seeing a bit about what is going on in Australia! Hello from Canada 🇨🇦 👋
@UltraXD.
@UltraXD. 9 месяцев назад
Super creative video, great ideas. Love it
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@temlan7929
@temlan7929 9 месяцев назад
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the new detour thing a toll road? Does that mean Victoria remains the main toll-frre road? I can see why they're hesitant to reduce it to 1 lane if that's the case.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
The iron cove tunnel will be toll free and will lead to the Anzac bridge
@josephj6521
@josephj6521 9 месяцев назад
Haha. Remember when the Lane Cove Tunnel Tollway was built? Epping Rd promptly became 1 or 2 lanes only. But with this short free-tunnel under Rozelle, there is no incentive to do anything as there are no private tollway agreements to force motorists into the tunnel! They don’t care.
@donttalkcrap
@donttalkcrap 9 месяцев назад
1:36 Wow! that's cool that they moved the bike path from the side of the busy roadside, and onto the footpath. Normally, I hate riders weaving in and out of us pedestrians. But in this instance, it's a proper shared path. And it's safe. I'm good with that.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
It's certainly usable and safe and not the worst shared path (not a lot of driveways or pedestrians) but it's full of pot holes and random road signs - the separated cycleway in the inner west council's plan would be a bit improvement!
@robertmoore512
@robertmoore512 9 месяцев назад
The new shared path, built by Westconnex, between Iron Cove Bridge and Moodie St is dangerous at the side streets. They shoukd have done better and raised priority crossings.
@nate_wil
@nate_wil 9 месяцев назад
You know what sucks about westconnex tunnel though? it's crazy expensive! So people will continue to want to avoid it if there are other options as well which means that we'll still be seeing a lot of cars on both Parra road and Vic road.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Iron Cove Link isn't westconnex and is toll free. Allowing people the freedom to choose cycling and walking by making it a viable option will also influence people's decisions
@davidlean8674
@davidlean8674 9 месяцев назад
I would hate this road to be shrunk. Getting in & out of the city now is a nightmare. The journey from Ryde in is a car park. While you may talk of public transport that only helps if you are going where the majority are going. But if you work in Mascot, Alexandria or Port Botany, Bussing into the city & back out again has added an extra hour to your journey. Each way.
@josephj6521
@josephj6521 9 месяцев назад
Fully understand. Unfortunately this city doesn’t cater well to commuters going cross-city in most circumstances.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
I can definitely see your perspective but ultimately the proposal isn't for the road to be shrunk, it's for it to be replaced - the Iron Cove Tunnel will do all the heavy lifting for commuter through traffic between the Iron Cove Bridge and Anzac bridge and it will be toll-free. It will avoid all the traffic lights and be the best way by far to drive if your destination isn't Rozelle. With all the car through traffic being moved underground, it makes sense to repurpose the road space on the surface to uses that will have a positive effect on the area around it such as wider footpaths, trees and a cycleway.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Yep, this is definitely a problem. If Sydney built something like the suburban rail loop that Melbourne is currently building it would be fantastic
@josephj6521
@josephj6521 9 месяцев назад
@@ChrisTopher_Urbanism I agree. I’m hoping Parramatta Rd gets fixed too once the Westconnex is completed. But this section of Victoria Rd is like 1km. It’s tiny! I don’t know why they aren’t progressing with the improvements?
@xr6lad
@xr6lad 9 месяцев назад
I know. Watching this is hilarious in its naive outlook. Guarantee closing roads won’t reduce traffic and bring people back. People don’t just abandon cars to use a bus. Bus is point to point - it ignores that buses serve one purpose and cars a totally different one. Nor are those using a car simply because they can’t bike.
@juif4642
@juif4642 9 месяцев назад
Funnily enough, that same shop location (now gong cha) got rammed into by a car recently too 😂 (laughing at the repeat occurrence not at the new shops owners misfortune)
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
It's definitely cursed
@ollie2074
@ollie2074 9 месяцев назад
Will they send busses through the new road tunnel? Perhaps routes the inner routes such as 501, 503, 504, 505 remain on the surface and 500x, 502, 504x, 506 and 507 bypass through the new tunnel. This would make public transport more competitive with cars
@jack2453
@jack2453 9 месяцев назад
Lots of potential there - but also Victoria Rd public transport also needs to consider interraction with Bays metro stop and Parramatt LR stage 2.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
I can't seem to find any info about that - it definitely seems like the sensible thing to do though
@Nicholas.T
@Nicholas.T 9 месяцев назад
@@ChrisTopher_UrbanismI don’t think so Chris! What about all the existing passengers that will still have to be picked up on the many bus stops between the Iron Cove bridge an Anzac Bridge? Sure, perhaps a FEW express buses might go in the tunnel, but the MAJORITY of existing buses need to stay on the surface!! Buses need to pick up PASSENGERS!! That is their RAISON D’ETRE !!
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
@@Nicholas.T I believe the original comment was only talking about express busses that currently don't stop in Rozelle going through the tunnel to skip the traffic lights
@robertmoore512
@robertmoore512 9 месяцев назад
TfNSW has fears that Anzac Bridge will be the choke point after tunnel opens, and there will be tailback up Victoria Rd. That might affect buses. Still no reason to reject the Masterplan IMHO.
@adam_nathan
@adam_nathan 9 месяцев назад
“Predict and provide” planning is destroying any chance Australian cities have of significantly reducing car usage, the constant need to ensure private vehicle capacity in planning holds so many good projects back and allows so many bad ones to get the green light
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
For sure. And it's so transparently used as a justification for already thought-up policies - if you look at transport projections by the NSW government, in around the late 80s/early 90s predictions changed from overestimating transport use and underestimating car use to the other way around presumably in order to justify more investment in roads and less in trains, it's quite interesting
@AdamKane-dw8hh
@AdamKane-dw8hh 8 месяцев назад
Personally I think Hume Hwy between Casula and Warwick Fa4m is up there too. I battle this every day.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 8 месяцев назад
I think I briefly saw it once when I was on Op Bushfire Assist 19/20 and the T8 was down so I had to ride my bike from Warwick Farm station to Holsworthy. Never again
@nperceived
@nperceived 9 месяцев назад
LRT on Vic Rd east of Eastwood is also desperately needed - and it shouldn't be done the way Randwick has approached it. The buses always seem to be mostly full when I use them during peak hours (though I will admit that I don't really use them frequently).
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
100% - especially that area around Top Ryde, it's a nightmare to get to (and through!) using anything other than a car
@nperceived
@nperceived 9 месяцев назад
@@ChrisTopher_Urbanism Even something along the lines of the original Sydney Metro Northwest would work, too (though I would prefer such a line to be completely separate from the current Northwest Metro Line).
@asjeot
@asjeot 9 месяцев назад
You should do a video about the Hume Highway through Liverpool. What a disaster that has no hope of improvement?
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Yep, it's quite the stroad. I don't know the area well, though - might need to do some research for a video on that one
@graham2954
@graham2954 9 месяцев назад
I used to live in Rozelle and cycle commute to Talavera road in north ryde. It was hell. not sure if cycling will take off, unless more folk get e-bikes.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Yep that area is pretty hilly, and so is Anzac Bridge the other way. Luckily e-bikes are getting more and more popular!
@robertmoore512
@robertmoore512 9 месяцев назад
Gladesville Bridge should be lowered! Doesnt have to be that high now that Navy dont need to ferry ammo to the Armoury at Newington.
@jack2453
@jack2453 9 месяцев назад
I am really frustrated by the lack of commitment to public transport and livability by the current government. Why did we bother?
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
It is really frustrating :/
@andrew1038
@andrew1038 9 месяцев назад
How do commercial vehicles get around. Longer travel times mean higher costs at the shops.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Commercial vehicles take the toll free tunnel or enjoy the evaporated traffic when commuters switch to better modes of travel
@thomthebomb9497
@thomthebomb9497 9 месяцев назад
It's a shame this project only covers the Rozelle section of Victoria Road, it sucks when you ride across the Gladesville bridge and you have to do those swirls on both ends. Also I appreciate the backdrop of the abandoned Balmain Leagues club, hopefully something can be done about that with all this renewal going on + the bays metro station being somewhat nearby (fingers crossed it isn't cancelled)
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Definitely. I think the rest of Victoria Road is tricky because that part of Ryde is so poorly served by public transport and consists of lots of low density suburban sprawl. Being so close to the city makes it such a good opportunity for some transit oriented development though. And yes, fingers crossed for something being done about that old leagues club! I'm pretty optimistic that the metro west - I think the review of that particular line was mostly looking into extra stations and an eastern extension.
@userreview2806
@userreview2806 9 месяцев назад
You just got yourself a subscription
@dagwould
@dagwould 9 месяцев назад
Unfortunately Sydney is stuck with tight roads. Pity we can't do a Melbourne and have sets of roads with a main carriage way for 'intra-urban' travel with side 'collector' roads for local access. The idea of change to both Victoria and Parramatta roads is good, but relying on walking and public transport won't get you there. No one wants to walk on hot summer days or in strong winds. Public transport is slow and restrictive and means you have to carefully plan your day, usually resulting in fewer trips and fewer things getting done, inconvenient to carry luggage (and not everyone wants to or is able to wear a back-pack). It all sounds great when you are young, but many of my older clients would find it impossible to maintain their quality of life without driving everywhere.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
It's not necessarily the tightness of Sydney's roads that is the problem - Victoria Road is 8 lanes wide at some points. How do you suggest these roads could be fixed? The car capacity is going up because of the iron cove link so to me it seems like a prime opportunity to allow other modes to make the most of the surface road while cars switch to the tunnel. Ultimately, whether somewhere is nice to walk or bike doesn't depend on the weather so much as on how the environment is designed - if there are enough trees, an area can stay reasonably cool and protected from the wind most of the time. You're definitely exaggerating the difficulty of public transport, or maybe speaking from experience living somewhere with poor public transport - the solution here is not to give up on pt but to invest properly in it and design it well. As far as elderly folk, they are more likely to be unable to drive than any other group of people so it makes sense to design areas to be as walkable as possible while maintaining car access for those who need it, like is happening in this design
@lachlanp4198
@lachlanp4198 9 месяцев назад
department of incompetence (planning & environment) at it again
@a9503128
@a9503128 9 месяцев назад
Sadly, I think the plan is to allow the road to fill up and then add a toll to the tunnel. If you would like to bet on that, I’ll take it paying $9 on a toll in the tunnel by 2025.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
I've seen no indication of this - Transport for NSW is managing the construction, not Westconnex, and it's being built by contractors other than Transurban.
@laurinnintendo
@laurinnintendo 9 месяцев назад
I think this is very interesting, but I'm a bit confused. From what I've seen they're only building a tunnel on one small section in Rozelle, but Victoria Road goes on for miles west of that with similar problems. Is there any plan for those sections or are they only fixing this small one? Anyways I think a tunnel is too costly to fix these sorts of problems, especially on such a long stretch of road. The biggest problem is that the road has too many access points. This creates conflict between fast moving through traffic and local street life which includes cars from the feeder roads. I would dramatically cut the access points and concentrate them at a few roundabouts. Then you would have a much safer, higher capacity through road and you could still remove lanes, because a single well planned lane can carry the same capacity as multiple "stroad-lanes". There would still be a lot of traffic, but at least you would have the space to build street trees, bike lanes and maybe a tram route. Again, not a local, but I think a tram route branching off at John St. Square and then running along Victoria Road to the West Ryde train station looks very promising too. Just my 2 cents on this, maybe stuff like that is already planned, would love to know more about it :)
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
It's just the part of Victoria Road between iron cove bridge and Anzac bridge that will get the tunnel, and the tunnel had already almost been finished. De-stroading the road further north by limiting access points and adding a tram would be fantastic!
@pavels470
@pavels470 9 месяцев назад
A Tunnel before Lyons Rd inbound would have been a very noticeable improvement on traffic
@carisi2k11
@carisi2k11 9 месяцев назад
While some regeneration would be nice. Why would you want bike lanes up that steep road for and do you really think wildlife will return to what will still be a road.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Hills aren't as big a problem for bikes, especially ebikes, as mixing with cars is, and there's a surprising amount of wildlife in cities (especially birds) so it's always good to make sure roads are as small a barrier as possible for them through planting street trees, although Victoria Road will likely still be limited to birds who can hear each other's calls over the traffic noise
@robertmoore512
@robertmoore512 9 месяцев назад
Victoria Rd up from Iron Cove or Robert St is only about 3 or 4% gradient, not too steep. Maybe a 30 m climb in total. Lots of cyclists seem to manage it ok. Intersections and bumpy ramps the main problem.
@Nerdificationing
@Nerdificationing 9 месяцев назад
Locals want this- but people who need to drive (e.g. tradies) don't want this
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
The overall capacity of the road corridor isn't being reduced since the Iron Cove Link is going to open. Additionally, once public and active transport infrastructure is good enough that people genuinely have a variety of choices about how they get around, that takes car traffic off the road and means that tradies don't have to get stuck in commuter traffic. Not Just Bikes' video about how the Netherlands is the best country in the world for drivers is a great example of this
@Nerdificationing
@Nerdificationing 9 месяцев назад
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism the Iron Cove Link would assume existing capacity is maintained, so having no net gain would be a failure. Australia's culture is closer to the USA, so even if it is a good idea - you won't capture the public's support or attention outside of small pockets
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
@@Nerdificationing There would be a net gain in the amount of people the corridor would be able to move (a much more important metric than just how many cars can be moved) and, importantly, there would be a massive gain in the economic activity of that part of Victoria Road. Australia's culture is very different to the USA and I'm not sure what that has to do with allowing people choices for how they get around. The consultation that the council did shows that the vast majority of people support this - maybe not car commuters, but commuting by car is a habit that is reinforced by the current transport environment rather than an identity. 48% of Sydneysiders are interested in cycling but put off by the current standard of infrastructure, meaning the culture of Australia is actually not being taken into account when car-centric roads are designed (www.transport.nsw.gov.au/system/files/media/documents/2022/Designing-for-the-Interested-but-Concerned-A-literature-review-on-cycling-infrastructure-design.pdf, p. 8)
@elenawalker3746
@elenawalker3746 9 месяцев назад
WEF 15 minuet cities coming to every suburbs.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Sydney's Inner West is mostly made up of 15-minute neighbourhoods already since it was built before zoning. This is more about giving people choice about how they get around. Not sure what the World Economic Forum has to do with this, though - the proposal came out of consultation with locals
@freeman10000
@freeman10000 9 месяцев назад
I was born in Sydney but thankfully I live in another Aussie city way out west. Sydney has always had horrible roads. I can remember as a kid in the Eighties how awful Parramatta and Canterbury roads were. Seems like nothing changes. Anyway enjoy your expensive toll roads in Sydney. Please don't complain because you Sydney siders voted for your horrific traffic congestion and expensive toll roads.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
I'll be moving out of Sydney soon too - I'm looking forward to some more affordable housing haha. My understanding is that Sydney's horrible roads are the result of cramming as many cars as possible into streets built for trams which happened during the 50s when suburban sprawl started and the tram network was ripped up. The 80s was when there was another dramatic funding shift away from public transport and towards car infrastructure as well I believe. I have hope for Sydney though as the new state government has cancelled new toll roads and are forging on with the big rail projects - I personally have never voted in favour of toll roads, the iron cove tunnel I mentioned is not tolled and already built, and I don't believe pushing for practical positive change is necessarily complaining.
@josephj6521
@josephj6521 9 месяцев назад
@@ChrisTopher_Urbanismwhich roads have they cancelled? I’m not aware of any but the government was concerned about the metro west metro currently being built!?! I’m confused of their priorities.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
@@josephj6521 They cancelled the Northern Beaches Link - I think the metro west is going to be fine, it's the metro southwest that the current government is most concerned about
@josephj6521
@josephj6521 9 месяцев назад
@@ChrisTopher_Urbanism I think the metro southwest is wasteful. Terminate the metro from the north west at Sydenham. No more beaches link tunnel? Oh wow. Military Road will continue to be a congested mess.
@SticksAndStonesBros
@SticksAndStonesBros 9 месяцев назад
Good video Chris, but I just want to suggest that people go to Labor party branch meetings and make these views heard there! No where would be as effective at forcing change than making the views known within the governing party. All the best!
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! To be honest I wouldn't even know how to go about doing that, do you have any advice?
@SticksAndStonesBros
@SticksAndStonesBros 9 месяцев назад
@@ChrisTopher_Urbanism Two best options I think would be either joining the party or contacting your nearest state Labor representative's office and asking where meetings are held. Not 100% sure, but I REALLY think the best way for us to push these issues is by making noise within the party of so called "YIMBY's'" and making sure they stand for what they say they stand for!
@robertmoore512
@robertmoore512 9 месяцев назад
I know one local bike activist who is a Labor Party member, and who gets in the ear of Inner West Labor about cycling. Not an easy task apparently, not many being cyclists. Need to get the Mayor on a bike.
@manageyouraccountsettings8573
@manageyouraccountsettings8573 9 месяцев назад
Hi
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
Hi
@punchbuggyyellow7097
@punchbuggyyellow7097 9 месяцев назад
Yes, Victoria Road is crap, but forcing drivers onto yet another toll road is not the solution & only lines the coffers further. It also further financially punishes those who can't afford to live nearer the city, or forces them to rat run through suburban roads to avoid the traffic & toll. Cycling & public transport doesn't work for everyone either. Plus it doesn't address most of Victoria Road, with Gladesville & beyond seeing no change. What's needed is a more holistic approach & not just more cycle ways & public transport. Cutting the current tax breaks for large Utes & SUV's while financially incentivize switching to the use of small cars & motorcycles would go a long way to reduce congestion. A recent UK study found that if 10% of road users switched to Motorcycles congestion would drop by 40% and we'd likely see a similar drop here in Sydney. It would also increase overall safety for all road users. Trust me, motorcyclists don't want to hit anyone or anything & small car drivers generally don't have the invincibility complex that large vehicle drivers seem to have. Once we get the traffic congestion down we can look at converting lanes to cycle-ways & bus lanes if needed.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
It's not a toll road
@punchbuggyyellow7097
@punchbuggyyellow7097 9 месяцев назад
@@ChrisTopher_Urbanism But the M4 & M8 that it connects to are.......
@yukko_parra
@yukko_parra 9 месяцев назад
​@@punchbuggyyellow7097 there will be a link to the Anzac Bridge that is toll free, which would be most drivers on Victoria Road (though I would also liked to see a link to the A4 Westbound)
@punchbuggyyellow7097
@punchbuggyyellow7097 9 месяцев назад
@@yukko_parra I was just there on Saturday & there was as much traffic turning right as there was left at the end of Victoria Road. Most people turning right seemed to be going to southern Sydney like I was, so there will be plenty of traffic funneled into the M8. Westconnex aren't building it out of the goodness of their heart.
@yukko_parra
@yukko_parra 9 месяцев назад
​@@punchbuggyyellow7097 I was admittedly a bit annoyed that they didn't have another exit to the A4 City West Link, that would better connect north and south (and act as a traffic diversion) The tunnels do remove a good majority of the surface level traffic, so there's that.
@iris4547
@iris4547 9 месяцев назад
this is all good in theory but it didnt work so well for epping road lane cove. i dont know if they plan to toll the tunnel under victoria road, but it will create the same problems as lane cove, that is taking away 90% of the roads capacity but only funnelling 10% of the traffic into the tunnel due to tolls. so heres hoping the tunnel under victoria road is toll free, because if not, plans like this are doomed to failure.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
As I mentioned in the video the Iron Cove Link will be toll free - it's being built by TfNSW rather than Westconnex. There are also many key differences between Rozelle and Epping: 1. The bus services in Rozelle are significantly better than the bus services in Epping (they are usable as a main way of getting around while that's definitely not the case in Epping) 2. There is heaps of cycling demand in the Inner West (it's the most commonly brought up issue from the public to the council) and Rozelle is within easy cycling distance to the CBD 3. Rozelle is much higher in density than Epping and surrounds which makes it better for cycling, walking and public transport since there are more destinations within a shorter distance 4. Epping Road was (and is) a regular road in that section, not a stroad like Victoria Road is, meaning there is more reason to make Victoria Road pedestrian friendly. Whenever I've driven down Epping Road I've found the worst traffic to be the areas with the most lanes around the Macquarie Park, and then where that narrows into the smaller part of the road that goes through Epping. The part with the cycleway and bus lanes tends to be okay. That's just anecdotal, though.
@piddlingtuna
@piddlingtuna 10 месяцев назад
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@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
way to shame me for forgetting to write the pinned comment lol
@alistairjohnson8185
@alistairjohnson8185 9 месяцев назад
Sorry, your utopian wishes are just NOT in the best interests of the vast majority of commuters. Restricting Epping highway was a disaster - it would be 10 times worse at Rozelle.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
There are a few key differences between Rozelle and Epping. 1. The Iron Cove Link will be toll free, unlike the Lane Cove Tunnel. 2. The bus services in Rozelle are significantly better than the bus services in Epping (they are usable as a main way of getting around while that's definitely not the case in Epping) 3. There is heaps of cycling demand in the Inner West (it's the most commonly brought up issue from the public to the council) and Rozelle is within easy cycling distance to the CBD 4. Rozelle is much higher in density than Epping and surrounds which makes it better for cycling, walking and public transport since there are more destinations within a shorter distance 5. Epping Road was (and is) a regular road in that section, not a stroad like Victoria Road is. Whenever I've driven down Epping Road I've found the worst traffic to be the areas with the most lanes around the Macquarie Park, and then where that narrows into the smaller part of the road that goes through Epping. The part with the cycleway and bus lanes tends to be okay. Besides, this isn't my vision, it's the result of the Inner West Council consulting locals on what they want, and there are more stakeholders in the area than just commuters.
@jvvoid
@jvvoid 9 месяцев назад
Victoria Rd is a major connecting road. For an arterial road such as that, traffic evaporation is a myth. The cars that lose Vic Rd will just use rat runs or other ways of getting through that part of town. Travel from West Pyrmont to Gladesville and beyond will simply move onto Parra Rd or Pacific Hwy, causing greater congestion there. You've got to accept some roads are 6 lanes because they need to be. And as for fumes and pollution, how relevant will that be in 10 years time when over half of all traffic will be electric.
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism
@ChrisTopher_Urbanism 9 месяцев назад
The toll free Iron Cove Link will open underneath that section of Victoria Road in a couple of months. Rat runs can and should be discouraged with modal filters and lower speed limits. When the Iron Cove Link opens that section of Victoria Road will actually be a rat run for people going to the city and through traffic should be discouraged by reducing the road's capacity. A significant amount of noise and particulate pollution from cars comes from the tyres so electric vehicles are not a cure all.
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