The German Education System Is Different! 🇩🇪🇬🇧 | Conversations with Black Germany | Darius Agyei 

I’m glad you did so well. People make it seem like working hard will prevent it but your case shows it doesn’t. Definitely something I will look out for when it comes to my daughters.

@@ConvosXpodcast That's a general problem in - some Bundesländer - where teacher have too much to say about the future of the kid. BUT the other way round you could also have miserable parents who would send the kid to a lower level because they don't believe in their child, then a teacher could intervene and propose a higher level. In general teachers should empower kids to reach for the highest level and maybe it's better now. The problem with the interview (beginning) is that it's too much about "black people" not proposed to higher levels of education. That's not true. The teachers decide on the general appearance of the child. How behaves it in class? How is the homework? etc. Black parents who were mostly new in this county did (mostly) not know how to prepare the kids for school. And also german parents who are uneducated, poor etc. tend to be not as good as supporters as educated or richer parents. Also kids who have ADHD or other stuff cannot behave like other kids in school and don't find the way to Gymnasium even if they are smart. Not every kid has the same chances and that happened to too many black kids. In contrast asian parents had mostly a strong work ethic and prepared their kids in that manner, they were better than the german kids - even when the parents didn't speak german very well or had no high education. This is complex and it's not good to talk about skin colour right away. That doesn't help.

Never forget: Teachers are only human! Decades away, I had to run through special exams to enter gymnasium. Well, now I have the Dr. in front of my name. The German system may be outdated, but there are 100 and one loops in it, to get where you want to get if you are fit enough. So it is up to the parents to choose the best for their children. By the way, it happens now and then, that although the teacher begs the parents to chose a better education, they put the thump down, wishing their children not to become smarter than they are instead of working hard in the family business. But luckily, when the kids have become off age, they still can make their Abitur and later graduate.

Thank you so much for sharing that perspective. I hope everything turned out alright for you in the end. I have two daughters and I really hope they don’t have to deal with this. Their mother is very assertive so I’m sure they will not. But as soon as I suspect it. I will move them to Ghana or back to the UK.

Take your kids out of Germany right now. That's what we did and it was the best decision we ever made. Germany is the toughest, most dangerous and most racist country for Africans in the western hemisphere.

I came across a video of a father talking about something similar. His son and the rest of the Black boys ended up getting expelled one by one.

That is terrible. How are they justifying this?

Wow!

Very important!

Yh, I think there may be an immigration bias. The stories on my Tiktok page are just outrageous.

Wow. Just wow. Thanks for this suggestion. I have seen this. I probably mentioned it in a less intelligent way on the podcast. Training a working class.

Glad you are putting your foot down. I hope she gets the best education possible. This scares me a little as my daughter is also picking up 3 languages and she mixes them up sometimes but her German is the best. But not as fluent as her mates. I’m hopeful but keeping an eye on this.

True but its much easier to get started and generally more inspiring and creative I find in the UK.

True that!

Religion is no where near the problem nor solution. Plenty religious communities succeed including many African ones. For me a unified identity and group economics is most important.

@@ConvosXpodcast How can lying to people and claiming knowledge that they can't demonstrate be helpful to a community? That would only lead to an ignorant community that no one outside the community trusts. Is that what success looks like? Because I wouldn't want to be part of a community that everyone else thought was ignorant and untrustworthy, would you?

@ivywoodxrecords Huh? That’s what you got from this? Stop projecting Sir. Says a lot about you. We can't please people like you. The very ones that will be screaming "why do you have to play victim" and "do it yourselves" and when we do or suggest to do it, you scream whatever it is your are saying over there. Peace bro. Enjoy whatever it is you like doing. I think my videos may not be good for your heart. Just watch something else.

I am not the most religious person but I believe in a higher power. I am on record in this very podcast saying "Religion is one of the worst things to happen to African people". But i acknowledge this is what faith is, though blind. People want something to believe in. I believe Its a human thing. Religion can be poisonous because of human beings exploiting it. As we do with everything else. I don't agree with you entirely you because many of the best people I know have been a part of some religion. Be it success in wealth, education, community building, activists etc. I don't think belief in a religion is a deciding factor on how successful a group could be.I understand your sentiment and will never question your rejection of the idea of religion because you are entitled to it, so are they. You are not a better human for your mindset and vice versa.

@@ConvosXpodcast "Show me your friends and I'll show you who you are". is an old saying. If you're hanging around with people that disagree with proven, evidence based information, then people will think you're just as ignorant as the people you're hanging around with. If you hang around with people that make claims that they can't show to be true, people will think you're a dishonest person too. So, If "The black church is a huge part of any black community." then people will think the black community is just as ignorant and untrustworthy as the church. That's why it's a problem.

Ein bisschen. I have ordered a deutsche home tutor i promise. It’s about time I learnt properly. I can’t understand my own daughter half the time.

Sie* Wenn, dann richtig!

He said right at the beginning it happened ‘in general’ however these sort of practices usually affect Black people disproportionately. Either way it’s a terribly thing and it should not happen.

It is not terrible. The German system is one of the best in the world especially if university education is free. Only those who deserve it benefit. Calling it terrible thing is appalling to say the least.

I have spoken to numerous people some on this podcast who have all explained how badly the schooling system has affected the them or their kids. From the stories I have heard it’s not working very well for a faction of the population. Maybe it has for you or people you know. But not for everyone. And everybody is entitled to higher education not a select few for whatever reason. The goal of any education system is to make sure everyone is achieving as high as possible if not then it may not be fit for purpose. Also if you go through some of the comments you will read other people’s experiences.

I understand where you are coming from. The German system is different from what is done in Ghana and UK. While we may not have the opportunity to explore the merits of these different systems, I try to explain it is not designed for anyone. I have heard discussions with natives Germans where some say it favours the girl child more than the boys. Because it seems girls pick up early in school than boys. You might agree with this too. Again, children from parents without any university education are more likely not to go to Gymnasium. This is because they don’t seem to care or don’t understand a life they have not lived. And I agree children with immigration background including those of African origin will be affected more. It means as a parent, who desire the best for my kids, I should understand the system and assist my children to attend the heights they desire. It means I shouldn’t treat my kids as if we were in UK where it is designed differently.

​@@ezeoha4502 that parents didn't attend university has absolutely nothing in determining if a child will. I mean, back in Africa most of our parents didn't attend universities but they made sure that we did. It boils down to motivation. My elder brother used to have very poor grades in high school but he picked up much later and attended university with 2 scholarships. He is presently an aeronautical engineer working for a big company. If he had grown in Germany, he wouldn't have gotten the chance.