I nearly choked on my coffee when that Scottish guy said 'the place starts to grow on you after awhile '. I spent 3 months there and can assure you it's a feckin nightmare from start to finish.
'Wot you in ere' for laddie? 'Violent tendsncies when drunk sir' 'We trained you to be violent and kill when you are sober only, sobre, understand lad?' 'Yes sir' 'Good, get yourself outside for bayonet practice and show me some fucking agression!' 'Yes sir'
I was in there for 24 days in 1998. My days consisted of Room and kit inspection, breakfast, PT, drill, lunch, drill, PT, Dinner. The drill was nearly as physical as the PT, lots of raggings around the parade square.
When I was in the RAF a bloke I knew was sent there for possession of grass. When he got back he walked out of the gate and went god knows where. Hardly surprising.
My ex husband was a Fusilier. 1st Battalion. Spent a long time in Northern Ireland. He was sent to the glasshouse......he said it was pretty taxing mentally and physically, and he was, and still is, really fit. He told me about the squats with a heavy post on your shoulders. He called it something but I can’t remember what it was.....he said it was “fucking painful” lol!
Interesting point, she may well have been! Females are generally under-diagnosed as they mask better, but as you say quite rightly back then people in the now ASD(1) wouldn't have gotten diagnosed.
This RPO Morgan (0:27) comes across as pretty level-headed, intelligent and sensible: she's strict, but not she's not a bully. She could do well in civilian life in a leading role - and probably has done so since.
I had one like this on active duty just like her. Looked sort of like her, too. They're not 'adorable' at all when you have to deal with their complete inability to follow even basic orders. I sat in on the hearing to boot her out, and she actually thanked us for it. I do wonder to this day whatever happened to her, I assume she probably works a DQ drive through if she's not dead or in prison...
I was there In 97. The kitchens were run by a private company and you were given a set meal, with no other choices.. It was pretty much chips all the time. I still lost a fair bit of weight though.
Grogritark If you had a rank, then yes, you usually (but not always) get busted as part of the sentence. The rapid promotion when soldiers return happens because it is deserved. The training is so first class and switched on that many prisoners becomes model soldiers. He learns drill movements, weaponry techniques and fieldcraft skills he would never have learned in Depot! You must remember, these guys are not "wasters" or "prisoners" in the civvy sense, that's why they have received "x days....and soldier on" sentences. These are basically good soldiers who have gone "off the rails." If they were "wasters", the sentence would be "x days......and discharge."
no pay for soldiers under sentance 90 pence a week when i was staff in 99 but family married men do get welfare from regiment funds , most have made a silly hiccup and need to do their time most come out of colly sorted and better for their unit every1 gets another chance and if a good soldier from ur regiment goes away the rest would look after his family bla bla but they loose pay yes and cant have money sent in ,,, bottom line no money for them whilst under sentance but their wives kids will be looked after by regiment
An officer once almost apologetically explained to us that you are marched in that fast when on CO's orders or other disciplinary hearings so when you come to attention you will feel dizzy and stressed and will be unable to think straight, so you can't really formulate a good defence, i.e. the system is weighted against you. Not really fair but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
That marching pace is 140 steps per minute or nearly 50% faster than the usual 96 steps per minute, but should not prove at all difficult for someone anything like fit enough to join the armed forces.
Was in 2RGJ In the seventies ,our battalion nick seemed harsher although it could only take maybe fifteen Rfn and not used for long extended sentences.
@@Nick-mm5ml The goal of going to prison is to get out of prison and get you back on the street. In prison, they should break you down and build you back up. Life sentences are bullshit. if they have to put you in prison for more than 15 years they should euthanize you or set you free. Life in prison is an unnecessary cost.
In the Australian Army, up until 1986, a SUS was not paid while in detention. Now they receive recruit pay. I have seen cases where Ofiicers and Soldiers committed the same offence, the Soldier went to detention for seven days (and 14 days CB) and the Officer receved a couple of "extras". I also saw a case where a Corporal was charged with Assault on a Subordinate, he was reduced to Private, 28 days dentention and discharged and had to get out of his MQ within 7 days.
I should have gone here in ‘97. Avoided it because my regiment was going to Belfast and were undermanned. I got 2 weeks ROPs instead, all the NCOs knew I should have got worse so made my life hell, probably worse than if I had gone to the glasshouse. I sorted my shit out after that.
19 years old, only been in the military for a few months and shes already in corrective custody? Maybe they should tighten up on their recruitment procedures? on Basic training?
Is Entry-level Separation or equivalent a thing in the UK Armed Forces? In U.S. , if a servicemember a problem or simply not conforming to military life and has been in service for less than 180 days, they can be given Entry-level Separation, an uncharacterized discharge that's neither Honorable or Dishonorable. No court proceedings involved. Save for jobs that require security clearance or law enforcement jobs, you weren't in long enough to have to put on most job applications or resumes/CVs that you were in and no one save said jobs that require security clearance or law enforcement jobs will know one was ever in unless you tell them.
@@chrismc410 there certainly was something called UFAS, Unsuitable For Army Service. Before that it was called SNLR, Services No Longer Required, basically getting the sack. Some recruits in my platoon were discharged that way, but I don't remember anyone getting that in Battalion.
If civilian prisons were like this I don't think there would be as many reoffending. When I was in a lad in my platoon kept going awol and spent more time in Colly than in battalion, eventually he got kicked out, he was a decent soldier but just hated the army and all the bullshit. When the army have spent that much training you they don't like to let you go so easily so try and rehabilitation to keep you. The army is not for everyone.
lol i do remember, after asking to leave )(applying for discharge) , forgetting to stand to at cpts office. he said to me your not in the army yet, do you understand that? errrr... NO SIR.. now your in the army do you understand that!? NO! YES SIR!
The Glasshouse numbers will be through the roof with new national service, so many kids are cross addicted to multiple drugs they haven't a hope of completing their service.
I thought most of the lads in Colly were sound as a pound - the screws just kept ya moving and working with no time to think , come 8 pm and you'd get a ham barm and mug o' tea and maybe a chance to listen to Radio Caroline if you had won the radio that week ... then you'd jump on the floor buffer to make the waxed floor shine - nice little upper body work out ... I met some RM infantry men ... who were the bee's knees , a geordie REME bod who had a helpless way of collapsing into subversive giggling when he was in optional Church .... what a laugh ..... the food was fine ... just sparse at 4 pm on Sundays .... I was always hungry from 4 pm to 8 pm on Sundays ... Mind you - 2 and half months in nick and didn't get a pay check for 5 months ... and the regiment kept us awake for 3 days to give us , 3 of us , a slap for 'getting caught' smoking herb in Holland .... they trained on road marching on Thursday and small arms on Friday .... it was a manly week and I respected the inherent trust they had in us as serving bods ... just ordinary working class lads from the grim suburbs of England's cities ... By the time I was finished I was cooked psychologically with the Green Machine .... so I PVR'd as soon I could - I don't like being shouted at or being expected to shout at others . Totes civvy ... a gypsy life for me .
Royal Marines took this as a break, as the Green Jackets mention below. DQs was worse or CTC guardroom. Although I never made it, either Qs or Colchester, many of my mates did lol
Even in working units (Royal Signals) we had to have a crease in the arm of our woolly pullys...the hack is to use Pritt Stick down the inside so it sticks, or sew in creases...
i think pte wright should have just been sent to do her detention in the guardroom at Pirbright because she was only doing basic training still and then they could have applied for her discharge after instead of sending her there just to kick her out at end of sentence. a bit of waist of time for her to be honest.
@@markojack15 - well that's curious as for about 30yrs the max time you could do at Colly was 12mths, anything over that was done in a civilian jail. Maybe you were there many decades ago?
So you were there nearly 50yrs ago, must now be in your late 60s and you still think Colly didn't 'break' you despite the fact you wasted 18mths there and lost that career. Well done.
The sad thing is it's probably the best chance private Right had of being something more in life, if only she put the effort in..I know army life is not for all, but she must of known, she would be pushed when entering service..
@@badninja1971 is "she"? So your thinking 1142 that's a woman? If it is, unfortunate. If not, and it's a fella, then I can assure you in 1990s British Army you were most certainly not allowed to wear a earring on duty.
I loved every minute of it apart from the day of arrival. I’d do it all over again and again and again no hard feelings. My name was on the fastest times on all boards and broke records I miss the discipline and the laughs. Yeah I’m nuts
Because that is a woman, who are allowed in the British Army to wear sleepers or studs, I do appreciate it's pretty hard to tell however. It's why the Sergeant Major started his brief as ''Right, Ladies and Gents'', he wasn't being ironic.
