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The Good Idea Fairy Strikes: American Trowel Bayonets 

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The United States first experimented with a combination trowel and bayonet in 1868, producing 200 experimental examples made from standard socket bayonets. This was immediately followed by an additional 500 Model 1869 trowel bayonets made new. These were distributed to a few companies of the infantry to test in the field. Remarkably, the trials reports were overwhelmingly positive.
The US infantryman at that time did not carry any sort of entrenching tool, and so even an awkward combination tool was an improvement over a canteen cup or other ad hoc tool for digging. The bayonet was seen by some officers as becoming obsolete with the introduction of breechloading rifles, so the reduced effectiveness of the new item as a bayonet was not a substantial concern. The intended use of these tools was not to dig elaborate trenches, but rather to hastily construct a shallow ditch and embankment which would provide just enough cover to shelter a prone soldier.
With the trials reports in, the government purchased 10,000 of the improved 1873 pattern trowel bayonet, which featured a stronger blade and a much more comfortable handle for digging. These were issued and used in the field (and in several combat engagements), but the developmental direction turned towards combination knife trowels instead of bayonets, and there would be no further development or issue of these tools after the 1870s.
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@buildingblocks51
@buildingblocks51 6 лет назад
1869: bayonets have become obsolete. These new rifles can be fired and loaded too quickly for a bayonet to be effective. 1914: Look at those trenches. I'm thinking a bayonet charge will do the trick...
@gihrenzabi7271
@gihrenzabi7271 6 лет назад
1912: Airplanes and machine guns. Pfft. They will always be just an accessory to the man and horse.
@Calvin_OBlenis
@Calvin_OBlenis 6 лет назад
Gihren Zabi 1930s USSR: Let's invest heavily in light tanks, they'll be very useful in the next war.
@speedy01247
@speedy01247 6 лет назад
1942-5 the US seems to have a lot of gun's, but we outnumber them, lets just charge them on mass (some Japanese commander WW2)
@retiredamericanpatriot5571
@retiredamericanpatriot5571 6 лет назад
If I may...bayonets were for close quarters fightin/ dispatching enemies without wasting ammo/ psychological intimidation.
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 6 лет назад
@@retiredamericanpatriot5571 It didn't carry over
@Tarik360
@Tarik360 6 лет назад
I love it in RTS and 4x games when a military unit has a build option.
@jasonmyneni8605
@jasonmyneni8605 3 года назад
The us combat knife is still a bayonet. So I guess they never truly get dismissed
@Ghastly1
@Ghastly1 6 лет назад
Easier than building a shovel that shoots bullets, I suppose.
@Shaun_Jones
@Shaun_Jones 6 лет назад
The Soviets actually made and issued a shovel with a built in mortar
@willsapp2035
@willsapp2035 6 лет назад
@@Shaun_Jones what? What was it called? I need to know more of this
@ratter88
@ratter88 6 лет назад
google "37mm spade mortar"
@danieldeak9141
@danieldeak9141 5 лет назад
@@Shaun_Jones I suppose they figured the common soldier needs more than one means of making holes in the ground.
@conni4518
@conni4518 5 лет назад
This entire comment and reply section is the best
@Austins_Corner
@Austins_Corner 6 лет назад
I wonder how many old ladies use these in their rose garden and have no idea what it is.
@prjndigo
@prjndigo 6 лет назад
I've seen these in a tool shed before, kid you not!
@sethrich5998
@sethrich5998 6 лет назад
I heard a story from a guy at the range of finding one in a garage sale in a pile of tools. Had definitely been used as a gardening tool. No idea if it's true, but it certainly sounds plausible.
@texasdeeslinglead2401
@texasdeeslinglead2401 6 лет назад
Austin's Corner shoosh , now California will be trying to ban trowels, as they look a lot like the military ones 🤔
@LadyAnuB
@LadyAnuB 6 лет назад
If we ban trowels, we may as well ban the whole frickin' garden section. We won't mind you, we are your fruit and veggie supplier. :P
@civilwarsam8829
@civilwarsam8829 6 лет назад
My mother and her siblings used my grandfathers katanas to cut weeds in soybean fields. Happens all the time.
@BufusTurbo92
@BufusTurbo92 6 лет назад
well if you suddenly have to serve cake while on the field they're quite handy.
@ianmacfarlane1241
@ianmacfarlane1241 6 лет назад
BufusTurbo92 😄😄😄
@FreakG.M.O
@FreakG.M.O 5 лет назад
Italian Spider-Man m
@AreGeeBee
@AreGeeBee 4 года назад
Do you believe that love can bloom on the battlefield?
@it_rocks
@it_rocks 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-epLFeT4qYgc.html
@deathcube7255
@deathcube7255 4 года назад
Perfect for Armistace day!
@Ralph-yn3gr
@Ralph-yn3gr 6 лет назад
The trowel bayonet. When your men in uniform need to scoop something up, be it dirt, a slice of pizza, or a man's insides, accept no substitutes.
@youngmasterzhi
@youngmasterzhi 4 года назад
Tired of too many enemy soldiers raiding your trench?! Then you gotta get disembowel trowel!
@jayno5122
@jayno5122 4 года назад
Let’s just hope the pizza party was BEFORE the bayonet charge... Eh, on second thought, might not notice if it was a meat lover’s pizza.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 6 лет назад
There is no way you'd stop every soldier from trying to dig with it attached, there is always some idiot who thinks he knows better.
@philverhey7335
@philverhey7335 6 лет назад
_"i'm aiming right at the target sarg.. but my bullets keep hitting low"_ ... _"Son, your gun is bent.. get a string and some arrows... that's all it's good for now"_
@sachyriel
@sachyriel 6 лет назад
just tell them they have to buy a new gun if they bend their barrel. Make them aware that it's out of pocket.
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 6 лет назад
Everything's gotta be soldier proof, lol. There's always one guy......
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 6 лет назад
Randy Magnum What do there is only one. After the first guy the rest will think its a design feature and 1 month later the manual will appended.
@texasdeeslinglead2401
@texasdeeslinglead2401 6 лет назад
Matthew Doye my thoughts exactly. Heck even my stupid ass
@edmundscycles1
@edmundscycles1 6 лет назад
For rapid wall repairs on the battlefield
@robotbjorn4952
@robotbjorn4952 6 лет назад
Infinately more popular than the hod carrier attachment.
@_yellow
@_yellow 6 лет назад
-20% build time -5% agility
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 6 лет назад
Well, both soldiers and bricklayers use some kind of mortar...
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 6 лет назад
Oh good grief now someone making DLC for COD zombies is going use this idea.
@nicholase2868
@nicholase2868 3 года назад
I initially imagined trying to lay down mortar with a long gun handle.
@Shunteration
@Shunteration 6 лет назад
Somewhere, somehow, the Team Fortress 2 Soldier is whispering: _"Perfect..."_
@retrowave762
@retrowave762 4 года назад
RIP Rick May
@luchadorito
@luchadorito 3 года назад
Is that the Rákosi coat of arms?
@Shunteration
@Shunteration 3 года назад
Far from it. It's based on the later, "Kádár" coat-of-arms, with some nationalistic elements: www.deviantart.com/tiszazug/art/Hungarian-Coat-Of-Arms-310671862
@luchadorito
@luchadorito 3 года назад
@@Shunteration my bad, nincs rajtam szemüveg és telefonról vagyok
@leerman22
@leerman22 3 года назад
He puts it on the front of his rocket launcher!
@jaymassengill3340
@jaymassengill3340 6 лет назад
Excerpt from Army field trials, 1871 - "I informed Pvt. Jones that he was on report and as punishment he must use his trowel bayonet to dig the latrine for the entire Company. And that he best be quick at the task as the men would be using said latrine whilst he was digging. He set about this endeavor with the utmost ferver and his behavior improved greatly after this." Lt. Haughten Pepperidge III I'm not sure what images will be used with the Ken Burns pan-and-scan effect, but we could probably find something in the National Archives.
@SewerRatsarepeopletoo
@SewerRatsarepeopletoo 5 лет назад
Literally in tears.
@CatalinaThePirate
@CatalinaThePirate 4 года назад
😆 Me, too! 😁
@BeavisSaves
@BeavisSaves 4 года назад
I wonder what that poor bastard did to earn that punishment.
@TheSlobinHood
@TheSlobinHood 4 года назад
Pepperidge Farm remembers
@darkiee69
@darkiee69 3 года назад
@@BeavisSaves used the trowel while attached to the riffle?
@JohnLeePedimore
@JohnLeePedimore 6 лет назад
The handle/socket change was based on trowel and error.
@Wetcorps
@Wetcorps 6 лет назад
I hate to brick it to you but that was a horrible joke.
@JohnLeePedimore
@JohnLeePedimore 6 лет назад
Does it really mortar? Maybe you just need to get laid.
@robertcornelius3514
@robertcornelius3514 6 лет назад
I went to the Bay for nets.
@DGARedRaven
@DGARedRaven 6 лет назад
I hate humanity.
@Shaun_Jones
@Shaun_Jones 5 лет назад
Bad puns are how eye roll
@TheRedKing247
@TheRedKing247 6 лет назад
Considering how dangerous a shovel can be (WWI was infamous for this, medics would have to tend to soldiers with what looks to be "battle axe" wounds which were in fact shovels), I could see this being an actually pretty effective melee weapon along with being a nice entrenching tool.
@vikkimcdonough6153
@vikkimcdonough6153 2 года назад
Agreed; that looks like something deeply unpleasant to be hit with.
@havareriksen1004
@havareriksen1004 2 года назад
Indeed. Up to this day, there are sections in military manuals for close combat featuring fighting with showels. And modern entrenching tools usually have one side of the showel head beveled to enable the soldier to sharpen it if desired. I have done so on the entrenching tools I have been issued, and though i have not struck any enemies with them, I have used it a lot as an improvised axe, chopping down small trees, clearing branches and bushes. The older styles of entrenching tools with straight wooden handles are the best for such use, but newer styles with triangular handles also works ok.
@boejiden5851
@boejiden5851 5 лет назад
When you need to storm the German trench at 8 but also need to tend to your garden at 9
@TheMoose126
@TheMoose126 4 года назад
Or tend the German's Garden as they are now too dead to tend it themselves..
@ExperiencesAndEquipment
@ExperiencesAndEquipment 3 года назад
Blood makes the grass grow.
@bullphrogva1804
@bullphrogva1804 6 лет назад
fix trowels! Doesn't have the same impact as "fix bayonets!" tbh
@katana1430
@katana1430 6 лет назад
Interestingly, the command for British troops equipped with sword bayonets (Napoleonic riflemen, etc.) was to "Fix Swords"
@tech6985
@tech6985 6 лет назад
Just imagine what the enemy would think if they heard that
@rosscollingwood5189
@rosscollingwood5189 6 лет назад
I'm guessing that they'd be falling about in helpless laughter!!
@texasdeeslinglead2401
@texasdeeslinglead2401 6 лет назад
"End em rightly!!"
@AgentTasmania
@AgentTasmania 6 лет назад
I imagine ramming that several-inch-wide blade between ribs would have more impact than a normal dagger bayonet.
@vettekid3326
@vettekid3326 6 лет назад
That thing would be wicked to try and sight a target in a high wind, it would be like sticking your hand out a car window.
@MrSheckstr
@MrSheckstr 6 лет назад
VetteKid just like. Standard bayonet you wouldn’t affix it to the barrel until a bayonet charge.
@gihrenzabi7271
@gihrenzabi7271 6 лет назад
steven heckert Some bayonet are meant to be fixed at all times.
@mongoose4117
@mongoose4117 3 года назад
Ya just a sling hanging or even a long barrel can be irritating in a wind!
@cymond
@cymond 2 года назад
How high are the winds where you shoot? 40MPH+ is a tropical storm, and I don't find it very difficult to put my hand out the window at low speed.
@GreatgoatonFire
@GreatgoatonFire 6 лет назад
These thing really remind me of a Zulu Iklwa when mounted on a rifle. Both em have markedly broad spear-heads.
@skrymerU
@skrymerU 6 лет назад
GreatgoatonFire that is true, I thought it reminded of that short fat italian sword (Cinquedea?) also
@GreatgoatonFire
@GreatgoatonFire 6 лет назад
Skrymer U I think you are refering to a Cinquedea aka five finger sword. Sure I can ser the recemblance, sort of.
@arachnonixon
@arachnonixon 6 лет назад
greatgoatonfire exactly what I thought too, the second I saw the thumbnail
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 5 лет назад
Agreed! Would make nasty wounds and probably scare the crap out of the enemy on the charge in.
@thif4722
@thif4722 4 года назад
Those things have a very different blade to handle ratio (around 50/50 I believe)
@sanYtheFox
@sanYtheFox 6 лет назад
so, this is just a militarised garden shovel?
@exploatores
@exploatores 6 лет назад
Yep you can mount your rifle on it :)
@gihrenzabi7271
@gihrenzabi7271 6 лет назад
I'm surprised the Russians aren't responsible for this.
@dubsy1026
@dubsy1026 6 лет назад
No, it isn't militarized
@a_shuchu_601
@a_shuchu_601 6 лет назад
USA 1870s: Errr, we don't really need bayonets all that much USSR 100 years later: let's put bayonet on SVD!
@MrMezmerize
@MrMezmerize 6 лет назад
the japanese really had an even bigger fetish, putting bayonets on LMGs :D
@Akm72
@Akm72 6 лет назад
Someone needs to invent a bayonet to go onto a rifle grenade!
@a_shuchu_601
@a_shuchu_601 6 лет назад
Mr.Mezmerize you mean attaching LMGs to the bayonets?
@SolyomSzava
@SolyomSzava 6 лет назад
Probably because the USA gave actual ammunition to their soldiers, to use with repeating firearms, while the USSR might've just given the average Igor the SVD and the bayonet, no ammo. (yes, I'm being sarcastic)
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 6 лет назад
Sólyom Csaba sarcasm=/=cringy nonsense that is ironically opposite irl.
@CommaV9414
@CommaV9414 6 лет назад
Remember its Forgotten Weapons 🗡 not Forgotten Guns 🔫
@fahadalghamdi8948
@fahadalghamdi8948 6 лет назад
Wauser So When Will He Talk About Pregunpoder Weapons ?
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 6 лет назад
Other than the knife ,sword ,spike ,rod and trowel are there other types of bayonets?
@Rhynome
@Rhynome 6 лет назад
Junichiro Yamashita Spoon
@_yellow
@_yellow 6 лет назад
Junichiro Yamashita Kitchen knife and screw driver
@williammiao8862
@williammiao8862 6 лет назад
Don't forget the Chainsaw bayonet for AR15 muh dude
@shloimylindsay
@shloimylindsay 6 лет назад
What about a chainsaw bayonet???
@chayasorah815
@chayasorah815 6 лет назад
shlomo lindsay hahaha😂😂😂
@talmonclear7502
@talmonclear7502 4 года назад
Gears of war did you say?
@firestorm165
@firestorm165 4 года назад
Heavy, high maintenance, unreliable and only useful as long as their fuel/power supply lasts
@Anon26535
@Anon26535 3 года назад
If man portable railguns ever happen I could see it since they could just run it off the gun's main power supply.
@andyn46
@andyn46 3 года назад
@@Anon26535 good point. I could see a man portable railgun happening, with the rise of EVs on the market, battery tech is being improved by the day, within ten years or so it's not unfeasible to think that a scaled down rail gun with a shoulder mounted battery pack would be able to fire several rounds before needing to recharge
@redram5150
@redram5150 5 лет назад
I never knew about the “idea fairy” until working with someone x-army. I’m explaining about the needless things an admin at our job had done only to justify his existence to the boss that did nothing to increase quality or efficiency, but made my job more complicated. He said “The idea fairy strikes again”. And after seeing the puzzled expression on my face, explained himself. It really is.a perfect phrase.
@ekscalybur
@ekscalybur 6 лет назад
I'm dying to know if that 'blade' rings when fired. Even if it doesn't, a company of troopers with what amounts to baffles on the ends of their rifles would create a distinct sound on a battlefield. Opposing commander would definitely take a pause to figure out what the strange new sound he heard from the other side of the battlefield.
@texasdeeslinglead2401
@texasdeeslinglead2401 6 лет назад
I could definitely see digging with it attached , clean it off and use it to cook with.
@Murphy82nd
@Murphy82nd 6 лет назад
My guess is the trowel will bend before the barrel does. For that matter you'd have to hit the rock with a lot of force. This is a trowel. You're not trying to spear the ground to death with powerful thrusts, you're basically scraping it away.
@Murphy82nd
@Murphy82nd 6 лет назад
But it's not a shovel. It's a trowel. As Ian explains in this video it's not meant to dig a trench. More of a 1' deep hole.
@philverhey7335
@philverhey7335 6 лет назад
cook some heroin :) ... you could really do a big batch .. enough for the whole platoon
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
If the rock was to hard, cock, firs and blow the bloody thing out of the way.
@MrAlumni72
@MrAlumni72 6 лет назад
Out of the frying pan, and into the ... FIRE!!
@thegunpenguin
@thegunpenguin 6 лет назад
Upon seeing the trowel affixed to the gun, I instinctively thought "That would dig the hell out of some holes!" Then you mentioned that they knew at least a few soldiers would be dumb enough to dig holes with the entire gun. Those plugs, they were for people like me.
@josephconradsa5375
@josephconradsa5375 6 лет назад
A bayonet shovel? Why not?!! Gardening has never been exciting!
@Akm72
@Akm72 6 лет назад
Bayonet pruning shears maybe?
@RealLuckless
@RealLuckless 6 лет назад
For when you have excessive gopher or groundhog issues in your yard?
@nighttrain1236
@nighttrain1236 6 лет назад
Or brick laying.
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 6 лет назад
Or you wanna cut off your thumb.
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 2 года назад
*insert Operation Market Garden joke here*
@Vaasref
@Vaasref 6 лет назад
2:45 The Empire of Japan respectfully disagree on that.
@aurorawhorealis
@aurorawhorealis 6 лет назад
I don't think the Japanese Empire ever *respectfully* disagreed with anyone lol
@robotbjorn4952
@robotbjorn4952 6 лет назад
Vaasref Japan lost.
@PhilipMax1
@PhilipMax1 6 лет назад
I think most nations at that time disagreed
@MrSheckstr
@MrSheckstr 6 лет назад
This was during the transition between formation combat and trench warfare
@boxfoxreyes9950
@boxfoxreyes9950 6 лет назад
Japanese empire generals we should put bayonets on our pistols
@George_Doc
@George_Doc 6 лет назад
Shovel? Bayonet? Bayvel? Shoonet?
@danielstuber8972
@danielstuber8972 6 лет назад
neodoc1976 shovanet.
@admiralgoodboy
@admiralgoodboy 6 лет назад
Bayvel
@TheDarktone101
@TheDarktone101 6 лет назад
Shovelnet
@potatojerry2511
@potatojerry2511 4 года назад
Hotel? Trivago
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 4 месяца назад
Shayonet
@matthewspencer5086
@matthewspencer5086 6 лет назад
One wonders how prevalent freemasonry was in the US Army in the 1870s?
@Assassinus2
@Assassinus2 6 лет назад
Matthew Spencer I'm slightly embarrassed that that was my first thought.
@matthewspencer5086
@matthewspencer5086 6 лет назад
Never mind: great minds think alike.
@johnconnor478
@johnconnor478 6 лет назад
What does that jave to do with This?
@matthewspencer5086
@matthewspencer5086 6 лет назад
Trowels as a lethal weapon have already been well documented in an episode of Dawn French's "Murder Most Horrid" dealing with freemasons in a local government planning department. For some strange reason, it's the only episode not available on You Tube, so there must be a masonic algorithm operating somewhere in the background.
@keithklassen5320
@keithklassen5320 6 лет назад
The trowel *is* roughly triangular...
@judgeholden6761
@judgeholden6761 3 года назад
Lots of ancient and modern spears (in rural Africa for instance) have very large triangular spearheads like these. They cause absolutely massive bleeding and quicker death, so were usually worth having if armor is uninvolved!
@elwismorgan1230
@elwismorgan1230 6 лет назад
They could have pretty easily included a regular bayonet in the Trowel sheath and made the trowel itself far lighter, you wouldn't lose the trowel and the sheath wouldn't take up any more space.
@malusignatius
@malusignatius 6 лет назад
For when you absolutely, positively have to build that brick wall under fire... :P
@JohnMiller-it7yy
@JohnMiller-it7yy 5 лет назад
That was an incredibly satisfying sound that came from fixing that second pattern bayonet.
@5chr4pn3ll
@5chr4pn3ll 6 лет назад
Hey is there a chance for a video on telescoping ammo? Saw a post about the LSAT on reddit that got me interested about the pros and cons. Thanks for your work :)
@karolinska1601
@karolinska1601 6 лет назад
Telescoping ammo? I believe you have been fooled.
@demonocolips
@demonocolips 6 лет назад
no it exists. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescoped_ammunition
@philverhey7335
@philverhey7335 6 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WlM8IHij6Hs.html
@GoredonTheDestroyer
@GoredonTheDestroyer 6 лет назад
I was envisioning something similar to Nagant revolver ammo.
@Sbhiggins94
@Sbhiggins94 6 лет назад
That was my Reddit post! Hope Ian covers this topic as well.
@kurtbergh
@kurtbergh 6 лет назад
l now need one of those for my AR.
@phileas007
@phileas007 6 лет назад
At last, the AR becomes useful for something
@jic1
@jic1 6 лет назад
Perfect! Ian has already demonstrated how resistant the AR platform is to the ingress of mud and dust, so it would make a great shovel handle. Also, it gives CNN another option for their next 'EVIL! things you can attach to your EVIL! AR-15' graphic.
@cowishere8222
@cowishere8222 6 лет назад
jic1 I want to see a bow mounted to the front of an ar now...
@diversityisourstrength5279
@diversityisourstrength5279 6 лет назад
Or a chainsaw bayonet.
@dickstickner5871
@dickstickner5871 6 лет назад
@@cowishere8222 bow and ar ...ow
@bradleymorgan8223
@bradleymorgan8223 4 года назад
It's brilliant, as you're digging with the trowel, you just fire into the dirt and it softens it up for you!
@Equiluxe1
@Equiluxe1 6 лет назад
As corporal Jones says, They don't like it up them.
@rosscollingwood5189
@rosscollingwood5189 6 лет назад
But it does put the icing on your victory!
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 6 лет назад
pie server bayonet!
@RevRaptor898
@RevRaptor898 6 лет назад
I like how you think ^-^
@samuelbean9928
@samuelbean9928 6 лет назад
It only became a pie server when it wore out
@simonyip5978
@simonyip5978 5 лет назад
A later version was the 'Plasterers Float Model 1931' able to scoop out the enemy's intestines and put a smooth finish onto the inside of your bunker. Afterwards came the 'Stone Mason's Chisel Bayonet Model 1969' ideal for butchering the enemy and then carefully carving his name and rank and unit onto his gravestone.
@Mildcat743
@Mildcat743 6 лет назад
Since youve seen both, which trowel bayonet is better, these or the Mondragons?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 лет назад
These seem like better bayonets, while the Mondragon seems like a better trowel.
@spef7396
@spef7396 6 лет назад
Pretty rad video Ian;)))))
@betaich
@betaich 6 лет назад
Oh spef is alive.
@flatsurfaces1913
@flatsurfaces1913 6 лет назад
Your back. Yay
@Piromanofeliz
@Piromanofeliz 6 лет назад
Yay! Spef is back!
@jimmyt3814
@jimmyt3814 6 лет назад
spef just subscribed
@aurorawhorealis
@aurorawhorealis 6 лет назад
HE LIVES
@Tsototar
@Tsototar 6 лет назад
I'm sure I'm not only one who'd really like to have an episode about the "knife trowel combinations"? Combination fighting knife trowel entrenching-tool rifle rest (?!) utility knife sounds kind of awesome
@fancyultrafresh3264
@fancyultrafresh3264 5 лет назад
Think of the excellent morale building gardens these could have propagated!
@jazzmaster909
@jazzmaster909 6 лет назад
For Shovelry!
@brucelee3388
@brucelee3388 6 лет назад
The Australian Owen Machine Carbine aka Owen Gun had a 'machete' bayonet. Main problem was that it was rather small, about the size of a Garand bayonet.
@redram5150
@redram5150 5 лет назад
I remember first learning of the “idea fairy”. It made so much sense
@codywarburton3112
@codywarburton3112 5 лет назад
Should have mentioned the size of the wound inflicted as compared to other conventional bayonets of the time. It would be like the difference between field tip and Boar Head tip for arrows
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 6 лет назад
How in the world did they test these things. Not as trowels but as the sharp pointy thing. Pig carcasses's? Unwilling volunteers? Willing volunteers? Grave robbing? Or did they finally find something useful for Second Lts to do.
@kenthodges4432
@kenthodges4432 6 лет назад
mpetersen6 Butterbars definitely need to be useful instead of just generally useless. lol
@fuge74
@fuge74 6 лет назад
the reason it didn't bend is probably due to the physics of the shape. bronze and some iron sword had a "pizza slice" shape like the Italian Cinquedea, the Iberian triangular iron dagger (roman Pugio). this is meant to increase strength without increasing weight. the rib probably also helps a lot.
@emilhajbert5326
@emilhajbert5326 7 лет назад
I remember seeing you pick up one of these on RIA's youtube channel, you looked so excited!
@DavidBrown-cp2vm
@DavidBrown-cp2vm 6 лет назад
As always, very interesting nuggets of actual history. I was genuinely surprised by the low prices anticipated for these items but then I live in a country where guns are only for the "government" and any guns and even their accoutrements are expensive and generally illegal for peasants to own anyway.
@norbertblackrain2379
@norbertblackrain2379 6 лет назад
This is a really interesting piece of equipment which really surprised me after reading the detailed reports. it also highlights who innovations were tested in practice at this time. Thank you for including this in the series.
@jesusapproves44
@jesusapproves44 6 лет назад
Ian it would be cool if you could make a video about the Volkssturmgewehre wich use uses mg 13 and mg 15 Barrels greetings from germany
@nelsonglover3963
@nelsonglover3963 6 лет назад
Lars Bruns pretty sure he's done videos on the VG1 and VG2.
@altair1983
@altair1983 6 лет назад
right...and now shooting, erm... digging video please
@overkillgaming1424
@overkillgaming1424 3 года назад
Bruh this is 900iq they turned their fucking rifles in to shovels.
@docgonzodotcom
@docgonzodotcom 6 лет назад
Finally! Tactical pie-picker-uppers!
@3RAN7ON
@3RAN7ON 3 года назад
Can we just get a shovel bayonet already so we can dig with our guns?
@troy9477
@troy9477 6 лет назад
The bayonet happens to come with a rifle. Lol. The reverse of normal. Interesting items. Probably a reasonable idea given the lack of an e-tool. Certainly better than nothing. However, in 20 years as a cop i quickly learned that if you try to make 1 item do too many tasks, it doesn't do any of them very well. I am thinking mainly of the flashlight with the collapsible baton built into it (i doubt the light would stand up to vibration from strikes), the flashlight with an OC sprayer built in the butt (yeah right, as if- we know who probably ended up getting the OC most of the time), and the OC sprayer that mounts on a light rail (you know somebody got unintentionally shot if those things were ever used). I wonder how well those bayonets would penetrate past the first inch or so. As the blade widens, it gets more difficult of course. And here we are, in the 21st century, still issuing bayonets. Mainly for opening crates and MRE's, but still. Great video as always. Thank you
@elbee1992
@elbee1992 6 лет назад
for when you REALLY hate dandelions :)
@jd_99
@jd_99 6 лет назад
I wondered about the weirdly shaped thing that the Gun Jesus was gleefully picking off the shelf in the Rock Island video.
@anchorbait6662
@anchorbait6662 6 лет назад
Omg I always wondered what those were. I remember my uncle using my grandfathers in the garden for planting veggies and such. Just in soft soil but still. Haha great video
@hughbarton5743
@hughbarton5743 3 года назад
And didn't modern Soviet doctrine include fighting with sharpened entrenchment tools? As a former epee' fencer, I can tell you that being charged by a guy with a pointy thing is a little unnerving, even if its not particularly sharp.( does leave a nasty welt,though...)
@baronjphellingtonesq9636
@baronjphellingtonesq9636 6 лет назад
*Me upon seeing thumbnail* Being a fish-chef is more competitive than I imagined apparently...
@MrWeAllAreOne
@MrWeAllAreOne 6 лет назад
I am a bricklayer and can say honestly a good quality trowel is *very* durable.
@pikeywyatt
@pikeywyatt 6 лет назад
i just see lots of bricklayers,going for it..
@MrWeAllAreOne
@MrWeAllAreOne 6 лет назад
tony Wyatt I am a bricklayer and disagree. The handle is totally unsuitable.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 5 лет назад
Those would be terrifying bayonets if you put a decent edge on them (which you should be doing for an entrenching tool anyway). If I had a trapdoor Springfield, I think I'd go make one of those trowel bayonets for it.
@GusCraft460
@GusCraft460 5 лет назад
The bayonet actually evolved from the spear. Though extremely limited, bayonets are still used on the battlefield. The descendants of the spear are still in use some 20,000 years after they were invented
@peterwelsh6975
@peterwelsh6975 5 лет назад
Bayonet is answer to enemys with swords, calvary and such. Early musket battle was 1 or 2 shots charge. One guy had to drop gun grab sword. Other guy stabbed him in guts with knife attached to gun he already held. Also reach advantage.
@Sean_Coyne
@Sean_Coyne 6 лет назад
The trowel bayonet and it's scabbard bears a striking resemblance to a Roman legionary's "sidearm," a dagger called the pugio. Even more so to a style used in Iberia around the 4-2nd centuries BCE. So a trowel bayonet, or the alternative combined trowel and fighting knife could have been quite a practical weapon in close quarters combat. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugio#/media/File:Pu%C3%B1al_%C3%ADbero_antenas_atrofiadas_(M.A.N.)_01.jpg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugio
@lologunbl4
@lologunbl4 6 лет назад
Oh my... it's worse than Soviet mortar-shovel
@Shinzon23
@Shinzon23 5 лет назад
Being killed by one of these would be highly embarrassing to report cause of death in heaven or hell...
@scottybeegood
@scottybeegood 6 лет назад
Good for mortar repairs too.
@davidemelia6296
@davidemelia6296 3 года назад
Swords to plowshares, anyone?
@TylerHulan
@TylerHulan 6 лет назад
Somebody be sure to tell USA today that these are available for ar15s.
@IntrospectAvionics
@IntrospectAvionics 6 лет назад
I've got one better, a plastic pail and shovel combo so you can build sand castles
@sanitarycockroach9038
@sanitarycockroach9038 4 года назад
I've seen Zulu spears with wider blades than that, and we know how effective those were even in 1879.
@josephd.5524
@josephd.5524 6 лет назад
Curious that they would keep the blade vertical- unless the soldier doing the fencing has the clarity of mind to twist the rifle sideways, that fat blade wouldn't be able to get between the ribs on a human to inflict a lethal hit- it would just get stuck. Painful, but not likely to stop an enemy from knifing you in return with his own much thinner, more effective bayonet.
@ellswtf
@ellswtf 6 лет назад
but wouldnt dirt go down the barrel when you scoop?
@RevRaptor898
@RevRaptor898 6 лет назад
You are not meant to use it on the weapon to dig, you gotta take it off first but he did mention felt muzzle caps to prevent private dumbass from getting dirt in his barrel when he tried it with the bloody thing on :)
@mrb692
@mrb692 6 лет назад
ellswtf Ian specifically addresses this, saying the trowel was meant to be held in the hand for digging, and mounted to the rifle for fighting. It's a shovel that can be a bayonet, not a device to turn a rifle into a shovel.
@RogerDuckman
@RogerDuckman 6 лет назад
mrb692 *grenade.
@atrior7290
@atrior7290 4 года назад
With a blade that wide, the friction should prevent overpenertation while leaving a really substential wound so it could be a good bayonet should it be used as such.
@nikodemnorwa768
@nikodemnorwa768 6 лет назад
I personally DIG how they look
@kashimkalinin2524
@kashimkalinin2524 2 года назад
Kriegsman would’ve love this. The emperor protects
@thebarkingmouse
@thebarkingmouse 6 лет назад
I always let the adverts run on gun & experiment video channels (cody's lab, etc). We need them to be making bank on these channels so they will stop discriminating against them.
@FlyxPat
@FlyxPat 3 года назад
Handy if you need to build a brick wall or plant some roses I guess
@Statusinator
@Statusinator 6 лет назад
10:21 Man, what a rad sound
@raznaak
@raznaak 3 года назад
I came
@diamonddigs6206
@diamonddigs6206 3 года назад
I camed
@Mornomgir
@Mornomgir 5 лет назад
to this day the mulipurpose entrenching tool in the sweden is still also classified as a primary weapon
@Shermingtan
@Shermingtan 6 лет назад
Looks like a "Saufeder". A German hunting spear.
@Texas.T
@Texas.T 5 лет назад
You could also use it as a food tray or cooker
@TheDamien6699
@TheDamien6699 6 лет назад
Potentially dumb idea here. I see that on the rifle the trowel is mounted in what looks like a 3'o'clock position. If it were mounted at a 6'o'clock position, and the rifle were fired with it attached, would the flat face of that trowel absorb some of the blast and potentially mitigate some muzzle climb? Hardly a concern with a single-shot breechloading rifle I know, but just a thought.
@eternalrecurrence6042
@eternalrecurrence6042 3 года назад
Love that I will still find content I've overlooked this made my break dude.
@crimsontiger6
@crimsontiger6 6 лет назад
Perfect for gardening in a bunny rich environment
@calebshonk5838
@calebshonk5838 6 лет назад
Kind of seems like another concept borne out of the idea that the army might have to fight another "Civil War"-style engagement (large-scale engagements against an organized near-peer opponent). I could certainly see it's usefulness in the US Civil War but the Indian Wars were much more fluid and dynamic in nature.
@calebshonk5838
@calebshonk5838 6 лет назад
Um....ok?
@yamascott
@yamascott 3 года назад
Historically, this is for digging a hole to poop. Deuteronomy 23:13 And thou shalt have a paddle upon thy weapon; and it shall be, when thou wilt ease thyself abroad, thou shalt dig therewith, and shalt turn back and cover that which cometh from thee:
@kmech3rd
@kmech3rd 3 года назад
Ain't that some $hit! Interesting context.
@jonathanwells223
@jonathanwells223 4 года назад
If you manage to get it into someone they won’t be likely to live through it.
@peterhopkins4748
@peterhopkins4748 6 лет назад
Thank you Ian. I find your videos about gun 'accessories' and the recent 'fireside' chats very interesting as they cover aspects of firearms that are usually overlooked and forgotten. Until I saw this video I had never heard of a trowel bayonet and I wonder what strangeness you will present us with next... (Thinks) has anyone come up with a pickaxe mortar I wonder? :D
@domtoretto1677
@domtoretto1677 3 года назад
* happy gas mask noises *
@woooweee
@woooweee 5 лет назад
Imagine the shame of being killed by a trowel
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 6 лет назад
one would wonder why it took several more decades or development for them to just issue troops with small shovels instead.
@randywatson8347
@randywatson8347 6 лет назад
Can't stop thinking about cement and bricks.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 3 года назад
Thanks
@axelkusanagi4139
@axelkusanagi4139 6 лет назад
For field requisition of cakes and pies behind enemy lines.
@Big-Monkey-Man
@Big-Monkey-Man 4 года назад
Someone, somewhere: *welds a shovel to an AR* Taktikool
@Mr-Trox
@Mr-Trox 3 года назад
Taktitool*
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