The Google Monopoly Is Coming To An End 

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I agree with ya I am part of the same wagon as you are I just hate Google since ads cost money to run in wich ad-blockers help keep ad bills low as well

Sponsorblock only hurt the content creators.

@@aaronwolfpaws4854 Yeah, i'm not a consumer. I live off grid in the mountains, have been for 20 years now, i don't buy anything that's not like vehicle parts, bags of concrete or a bucket of screws so it's like serving ads to a monkey. Regardless of the ad, if i need brake pads or six 2x4s and some 16d nails i go down to the local mom and pop hardware store and get it i just go get some. I don't need an ad to tell me i need 50 feet of 3/4" ranch pipe to connect my rain barrels. Not a chance i'm traveling 100+ miles over mountains and through deserts to go spend money i don't have to buy some nonsense i saw on RU-vid FFS. There's no businesses around to go to, no fast food, doordash or whatever, none of that so 90% of ads i would see are useless. And i don't eat any of that anyways, that's not even 'food' IMO. (I'm a five star chef, corpo pigslop is a joke.) I think i can live without relying on Mr Beast to feed me via delivery drones. Y'all got a wild dystopia down there in the world, it's like Vince McMahon runs society these days. What's cool is i recently looked at my stats and Sponsorblock has nearly saved me two days of my life so far of not watching ads for ballsack trimmers, soylent green and land in Scotland or whatever scam they're selling as a 'service' these days. Service deez nuts lol. But yeah, definitely use Sponsorblock, life is too short to waste it on this scam slop being hawked 24/7 like it's Idiocracy.

​@@benzobernd9310does it? The sponsors have little way to tell if you're watching the sponsor, aside from if you buy their incredibly overpriced shitty products. I'd imagine statistically no one does that anyways, so it would be hard to detect sponsor block users

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android should just be independent imo lol. and if they have to be bought out, have a smaller company like mozilla buy them

I'm surprised samsung doesn't outright own Android.

I swore to NEVER get an iPhone, but if META (🤮) gets access to android I'm swapping over.

@voidlandguy As a poor android user, i say the same thing as it is exactly like WW3 (Both have dangerous consequences, WW3 for the world, the switch to Meta for my wallet.)

East India company and Dutch East Indies checks out

They have prominent lobbying power and too little people paying attention

The entire West is pretty much property of Blackrock nowadays.

@@shadowflash705 Lol true

I mean, look at Disney they are basically their own country already probably considered the first semi-non-physical country

facebook was a non-uninstallable "system app" on every one of my android phones (HTC, Samsung, LG) before i bought a Xiaomi. If they get to own android though, i'll switch to a different platform instantly! Maybe i'll have to actually start buying apple stuff. Or switch back to good old Nokia flip phones now that those are a thing again :)

I think smartphone vendors get revenue from preinstalling Facebook. Many of them do so.

It was an uninstallable app on my Moto which bugged the shit out of me.

Phone number irrevocably linked to your Facebook account

Guess I'm switching to Ubuntu Touch 😔😔

Even a slap on the wrist is better than nothing. Because that means the gouvernement is watching the company's action, and that even if this time they didn't get anything, if they go further than they will know about it. And it might even be better than their solution, because if meta is buying android, then it's like google with internet explorer, you are just giving the monopole to someone else, who might even be worse than the previous one. The real solution that i would see is making illegal to give money for having google as the default choice. Imagine a company is paying customers to give them printer, how can you try and beat that? They made tiktok live illegal in europe for giving small amount of money to customers (though not bing rewards when they are doing something pretty similar), i don't see why giving millions to company's for using your product should be legal.

I'm scared it's gonna end up screwing over the consumer more. Very concerned for the future of android rn

​@@2004seraphYeah I wouldn't worry about android. It has backing from at least 10 megacorporations.

android is not really open source anymore anyway and Google has been steering it that way further and further so whatever. I bet less than 0.1% of the population uses a phone with a custom OS such as GrapheneOS that doesn't try to steal your data constantly.

I'm not worried, I already know it will be an over-hyped slap on the wrist. That's always the outcome.

Where’s the lie?

Omfg I literally have the same ad 💀

​@@idkjb777language..

They probably do though

I mean yeah that was the whole bit of the first 4 minutes of the vid. They do, that's the problem

Microsoft exists as a business by paywalling you from legally doing that

Especially light bulbs and fridges and whatever. The problem is. The instant you allow cars to have custom firmware. Imagine morons spreading Temu firmware via TikTok posts. Gonna have a stranger coming into your living room at 130mph.

​@KevinJDildonik just banned the production of e cars. A normal car does everything a car should and needs to do. Making random things have software (like a TV, fridge, and other house appliances) is just a massive Spyware vector. If u need GPS just buy a phone holder for a phone and use that for GPS (preferably one running an os that doesn't spy on you). Not to mention if someone is dumb enough to download random firmware from a random link in a random tik tok post they deserve to be removed from the gene pool as they are a net loss. This is also ignoring the reality that most people just use water is on the device and the moment they hear a tech term they never heard they think it some forbiden black magic.

​@@Praisethesunsonwhat? How?

@@KevinJDildonik fun this is, that's possible today and making it illegal for you to have a custom dash display in your computer car does nothing to keep you safe.

You are kidding, right? You mean we'd have to socialize with our friends, read books, take up a hobby, and clean the house?

Alternatives do exist, you know

@@dirremoire Sounds awful, not gonna lie.

​@@WildVoltorb the alterantives are awful compared to youtube.

@dirremoire you do know that youtube has more value than pure entertainment, right? the amount of culture, recent history, art and freely accessible educational material that would be lost if youtube shut down is ginormous

Which baffles me Google getting this since they have infinite money to buy the best lawyers to specifically prevent this

​@@MordecroxIf a company with 90% dominance in any market is not a monopoly, then the anti monopoly law is useless. Not even the best lawyers can go this blatantly against the law.

@@Jose04537bro let’s not count our eggs yet.

It's open corruption if they can get away with it

@@Mordecrox No lawyer is good enough to stop a determined lawmaker. What you mean to say is that Google has infinite money to buy every Congressman in every State to "change their mind" about the whole thing. That's very likely to happen.

I find that it's ironic when bots mimicked Mental Outlaw back in the day.

as a bot I can confirm.

nice try, bot

Its also pretty common for people to point that out on every video of his

May just be bots pointing out bots for the LOLZ

You forget MI6, DEA, NSA. They, by proxy, receive it right away too.

@@BatkoNashBandera774 speaking as a black woman, I think the only proper reaction to this situation is to provide them with inaccurate information.

Ora ora ora. Vejo que tem um BR nos comentários. ABIN denunciou bonito aí.

​​@@xXx_Regulus_xXx"speaking as a black woman", "is to provide them with inaccurate information" 😂😂😂. P.S. It took me a good minute to get the joke.

@@xXx_Regulus_xXx This is not practically possible, since your information is gathered, correlated and aggregated from MANY, different sources. Even things like your screen size are used to track you. Faking your identity in real life is easier than doing it online. The best we can do is to minimize the information we put out there to make it harder to be related to us.

i feel like that would be worse

It would create competition.

Well see, then they've presented the appearance of doing something. That generates just as much political noise as, but costs _way_ less than, actually doing something.

@@jorge69696 what do you mean by competition? nothing changes, just different owners. meta is also big company and is no different from google if not worse

it still would be big tech company android vs another big company ios

In practice, that leaves you with basically Brave or Yandex, since almost all others rely on the web indexes of Google and Microsoft.

i use the opera gx browser with firefox’s search engine. works really well and its easy on your cpu.

@@kevinmcfarlane2752I don’t trust a Russian search engine…Yandex that is

Brave all the way. People don't rave about it enough. Vpn and ad blocker, values privacy.

That was my thought when I heard him say that that was how Mozilla made money

That's the plan, Stan

its gonna make chrome even more popular💀

What about ladybird?

Man if google losing is gonna kill android and firefox I might have to cheer on google as crazy as it is to even say that.

lol not gonna happen they got the far-left right up their ass.

We'll have to wait and see if Google search engine's leadership would do it or not

lol and my comment got removed, typical

No, it won't.

Ai has replaced search. Searching is now obsolete and outdated. ​@@TheTundraTerror

While the bootloaders are unlockable, Google is making ROMs and rooting useless step by step, there used to be thousands of fingerprints for spoofing devices to pass the Play Integrity APIs but Google is quickly banning them and now there are only a handful of them left, if they don't stop, the only way to pass Play Integrity is going to be by having the OEM keybox which is hard to get, unless it's leaked

Did. It's turning more and more into a walled garden with each release.

Bruh you are horrendously wrong. Google is making android worse ios. It is giving android more and more restrictions since android 10

Just like Chromium, Android is open source for a reason, they want to dominate all markets

​@@axethepenguin because they have to. They won't survive if they did it the apple way. Companies wouldn't use android as an operating system if it's behind a paywall.

because everything poltically will eventually affect civillian life. The bigger u are as a company the more the gov will be involved with ur company because now ur like a mini state of ur own that has a union of influence. Hence car manufactures and other big producers...

That’s what happens when monopolies are allowed to form

Exactly. They're just rearranging the deck chairs.

@@cara-seyun monopolies are destiny. It’s the result of people trying to win lol. It’s a lot harder to avoid them than you might think. When you really think about it…. you’ll realize you knew it all along.

Because the government is involved. It's always the same reason.

It's already a thing of the past my friend

You think privacy still exists? Cute

0% chance if owned by a big data harvesting corporation.

The government won't let that happen.

@@sn0w.flowww and that's actually the reason for the BS what they call an anti compete agreement in the license to use Android which holds a gun to the heads of any manufacturers preventing them from selling devices running anything but stock locked down Android with all of Google's spyware and dependencies which is one of the largest reasons for stagnation in the mobile device industry not only to mention how Google purposefully killed the Windows phone and the original Amazon Fire Phone because they just refused to let them use their applications so people bought a smartphone expecting it to be a smartphone but they couldn't use Google RU-vid Gmail Facebook so on

Not if it is bought out, it could very well become closed source if bought up. Hope would it make money

no most likely some more evil company get their hands on it and make it even worse. i think google is doing good with android despite their tracking and stuff

Obviously Apple would not be allowed to.

yeah maybe only way it doesn't become worse

This. As bad as Google is, Android is a gift to the world. I'd be worried about its future if it got spun off.

Well, to be fair with how aggressive youtubes ads are, plus all the RU-vid premium subscribers, they *might* just make it

RU-vid is starting to collapse under its own weight. Too many ads, too many channels with the same content and now it's being it with a deluge of crappy AI generated content. My Youtime viewing time is actually going down.

@@dirremoire Thats not a RU-vid problem, thats an everywhere problem...

I am hoping on ladybird to become an actual foss and indipendent alternative But i don't want to illude myself with too bug hopes

@@no_name4796 no, just no.

Very scary, if firefox is harmed by this im gonna cry

Firefox had plenty of time to find a way to stay afloat without google's allowance.

@@huzafah Who cares? Firefox isn't what is was 16 years ago. It's been Google's little bitch for more than a decade. I hope for a REAL open source browser, like ladybird.

unless its bought by something else worse

@@alexisroux2448 Hopefully there's a movement to make chromium it's own non-profit foundation, like what happened with .NET

How? That just means it doesn't get the support from Google. Anyone right now can fork chromium and make something from it that's seperate from Google because it's open source. Most browsers are chromium _and_ seperate from Google since they just use the technology.

@@edwardhoffenheim3249 it could mean that some other browser company that uses chromium could pick up development, but thats pretty hopeful because theyd have to do it likely at a loss

Clearly you aren't a dev, every other "smaller" browser - Brave, Opera is/are based on Chromium, they don't look exactly the same as Chrome now do they? If someone wanted to make something good from that project, they still can, just fork and work on it, if it's a better product everyone will use it, but no one has done that till now, why?

Agreed

Sadly that's how it is. You punish someone making a monopole, and someone else get powered from the situation. If Microsoft didn't get sued for internet explorer, then maybe chrome wouldn't be that prominent. They could have gone out, but wouldn't be as powerful as today.

Living under a rock? Win11 made many quit cold turkey

@@Mordecrox not as many as I'd want. most people wake up to their OS looking funny with the windows button in the wrong place, shrug, and learn to cope with the new annoyances like farm animals

@@xXx_Regulus_xXx thats way too acurate

Yeah right. When pigs fly.

They already are iirc

Monopoly Countless others

@@Vexxter Yeah right, the IRS lost against microsoft and they hired an entire law firm to go after them.

Microsoft doesn’t really have any issues at this point, other than being big. The cloud maybe, but nobody has more than 50% market share. Though in theory the government or the EU could go after the top three cloud vendors Amazon, Microsoft and Google together if they deem something to be anti-competitive.

RU-vid has way greater costs than what could be harvested from the data. Gmail probably pays for itself though.

I mean sure, but the fact remains that no other company is in a position to utilise that data as well as google - which means they'd need to make those services shittier to turn a profit on them.

Brother, did you watch the video? That was his entire point and he went through great lengths to clarify exactly what you've said here.

Then again, what's been stopping Meta from just forking it and replacing GMS with their own backend? Out of every company, they'd probably be the most capable, yet they haven't done anything.

Google can always start their own company and sell it to them. Just run it from the shadows

This is horrifying. I will switch to literally anything to avoid that, I will go full flip phone at that point

​@@2004seraphthey've done some really sneaky stuff in the past I forget pertaining to what exactly

If the zucc gets android, I might have to switch to Apple and make my old droids completely offline

You need to develop a alternative then. Azure and the MS365 ecosystem is extremely vast. As a dev you can do a shit ton of stuff (if you get the access). Personally I believe Microsoft has a way more extreme chokehold on B2B, but Googles chokehold on the Internet is unbreakable. Only china really can escape googles chokehold. Literally just throw enough law at them till they are effectively illegal. The EU would need to restrict american tech-companies and then subsidize european businesses for years till they fully replace american tech products. MS, Google, Apple, etc… can not be stopped “non-violently” ever. Its a delusion.

Imagine if the government used some of that money buying 4 thousand dollar screws (actual thing not an exaggeration) and made their own public education resources for computers...

yeah in high school i was forced to use google suite and now in college i have to use microsoft…at least google is free

You don't want that if Google gets broken up the customer are the one who's going to suffer. No one wants Meta to buy Android sometimes there are no good endings only bad and worse.

It’s a tool, one day your employer will require you to use something similar. Just deal with it and use something else in your private life

They should target google play services and manifest V3

Android isn't really open source thou.

What do you mean Android isn't open source? Sure some of Google's apps aren't open source but the operating system still is.

@@thzene4967 Android is not open source AOSP is. Parts of Android are under a closed source license or only implement part of what is required to operate a device such as e.g. most drivers that don't life in the kernel.

Never comment again

BlackRock and Google has any connection?

Two different companies mate.

@@testacals Vanguard and Blackrock hold the largest shares in every big corpo including Alphabet (Google). "Two different companies" lol, not really.

explain what blackrock has a monopoly on. ill wait

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_Inc. See "Ownership"

Yeah, there is no world where it is a good idea to split up google.

@@eps-nx8zgAgree.

@@eps-nx8zg so true!

IKR! it's a disaster for android!

You're dumb.

Pretty sure governments just see big money, and think "How can we use laws to get some of that?" All we can do is hope the effects of it are in our favor...

Bah, Its all just to provide plausible deniability. Certain agencies need to push public perceptions back towards google being an actual company. In my opinion it's just a shell for 5 eyes surveillance.

@@RichardDresslerI’ve heard of the 14 eyes but what are the 5 eyes?

MetroAndroid It won't be trust me

@@davidf_bs Do you want to just search for a video that explains the entire situation. While providing evidence for all claims? Or would you rather me explain it. So that you can say I'm a conspiracy theorist and direct people to ignore me?

The issue with monopolies is that the manipulation is inevitable under monopolistic conditions.

lmao i use aol as a search engine nowadays cause it actually gives me results and is more simple like internet in the early 2010s

i wonder how many netscape users are out tgere

My girlfriend's family uses AOL they're way out in the countryside where dialup is the only way to get Internet

The problem with RU-vid: Too many channels with the same content.

That's what Microsoft did

What an authoritative source of information.

@@CarrotConsumer You sound like someone who trusts the mainstream media...

yea thats the problem they have their foot in everything and it shouldnt be that way. it will suck for a while but we will adapt

@@animeloveer97 nah i already have enough stuff in my life SUCKING right now the last thing I need is for my mapping software to quit working too

The reason we don't have good alternatives is not coincidence or incompetence, it's _because_ of google. Alternatives are competed out of the market by google's monopoly before they have time to get good. And because of the monopoly, whenever a viable alternative pops up, only a handful of people will even try it out.

That's right! Things can never EVER get better. They can only become so terrible that we end up losing everything of value and purpose. Only worthless garbage can exist on this planet now. That's the world we live in and it will never change back. It will end up killing everything and nothing but AI and garbage will be left on earth.

One of the CEOs is dead. 😢

RU-vid is profitable though.

@@devilselbowHow

@@MorganNull-uj6uu It makes more money than it spends. If youtube wasn't profitable for google, they would have axed it like every other service they no longer provide. They haven't been running a video hosting service (very expensive) for almost 2 decades out of the goodness of their heart lol.

@@devilselbow But how does it make more money than it spends? Think of all the RU-vidrs who are making money. That’s millions a day surely?

Created by the government

Hmm. Wonder why they happen. Beats me.

We all do buddy

@@romdotdogderegulation gone too far.

@@12time12 Not quite. Try again.

not really,this lawsuit will go on for years,until then mozilla has time

only if they could actually manage the money instead of for example, paying the ceo 5$ million for doing absolutely nothing to improve the browser

@@adelite mozilla is more than just browser,they are also activist company,and they should move beyond firefox

@@paatagigolashvili9551 on top of that they also have a financial pillow to support their +- current spending for at least 3 years, according to their financial reports

Idk, neither of those companies have major experience with developing android tho, Oracle does have the Java expertise, but the ART has diverged heavily from the JVM

Oracle is an absolutely atrocious company, a horrible choice. Might as well close the whole project right away instead if you plan to do that.

@@Shajirr_ that's the joke

It really is and it's not fair to those who simply think differently. Shutting up one side and amplifying the other isn't cool.

*every megacorp

I hope this world doesn’t turn into a corporatacracy like in Cruelty Squad…

​@@criticalscythus369it already is

God bless GrapheneOS, and thank God for Daniel Micay.

Litterary free market

I don't remember buying anything I saw in an ad, is anyone else like this?

It's an extremely complicated product. It will be maintained just like any other widely used tool, by the companies that use it most, supervised by the board of the open source foundation

@@TheSuperBoyProjecti wish

G Play services should be open source

@@TheSuperBoyProject Google seems pretty committed to Kotlin, Kotlin Multiplatform, and Compose Multiplatform. If someone else steps in, I hope they don't push their own languages or stuff like .NET MAUI or React Native.

real

NPCs would still use the shitty modern one.

"The Anatomy of a Large-Scale HypertextualWeb Search Engine" is how it worked when it was new. If only I knew how to index pages.

A long time ago, instead of a like/dislike system there was a 1 star through 5 star rating system. If you ever find old videos from that era, you'll see uploaders asking viewers to "Rate, comment, subscribe"

based

i mean i have them on 2 disks as well but yt interface is just convenient. originally they were on one drive from the covid remote school era and most are still accessible there but one drive video player is a joke

@@galzajc1257 yeah onedrive video player sucks. it's nice that you keep copies in multiple places, i also do that, that way you don't lose your stuff, it has happened before, people's stuff on google drive suddenly disappearing.

That's pretty sad. Bro is so lazy he thinks having private lectures is easier than reading a book to full detail?

first of all i'm extremely slow at reading and there's just no way i would read a multiple hundred page book for a single subject but i can easyly follow lectures at 3x speed, pause it, try to derive/ calculate things myself and when i'm stuck, play the video forward. it's way more effective for me. i know exactly what i'm doing and it works perfectly for me.

Firefox isn't google, they are independant, but funded mostly by google (paid for having google as the default search engine). Problem is, every service need monetization. The way google does it is by relying on other services to get that monetization Which isn't negative by itself, you wouldn't like to pay for your browser or to have an ad play when you boot up your browser What's negative is when the browser direct profit is clearly negative, notably by literraly paying company's to use your product. Imagine you pay customer if they take your printers. Of course this company is gonna live while other company's sink because they don't have client anymore. With printers it's already more or less the case, but at least they try to hide. Not google.

so called effective altruism is the road to hell paved with good intentions

@@serzaknightcore5208 Google is 80% of found

You can't it's too late that's how free market works

@@Stszelec01 I hate free market

You are correct.

That would be one of the most beneficial things to come out of this if it happened (which I doubt)

There are some other things that they did good. Chrome isn't a bad browser, especially at the time where internet explorer was his concurrent. RU-vid wasn't that bad. Google drive too. What mades all those services bad are the ads. Chrome became the tools to delete adblockers, youtube got infested with more ads than news websites, and google drive while google drive don't have ads, for some reason they decided to screw over paying customer. The search engine is the only one with still a good image, because it's only service were the ads aren't abusive. You don't have image ads, only link ads. Experienced users just scroll past or have adblock, and gullible users doesn't know that they are ads.

@serzaknightcore5208 agreed, but it ideally would be better to have these extra services as different companies entirely. Tho, the logistics of starting a video streaming website, for example, isn't a thing capable of a normal person or business this day and age. Yea... most things are incapable of being up without the backing of a worth of a country.

@@serzaknightcore5208 but aren't some of the search adds malicious tho?

my main issue with chrome is the selective searching. not sure when it came into existence, but duckduckgo is unfortunately taking the same route. some searches will never show you what you're looking for, based on their discretion.

Honestly I think almost everything Google/Alphabet has done has been really good, personally I think the only issue they have is their ad department. It's just, unfortunately, it also has the most successful and most power in the company, corrupting, and even more unfortunately, holding up every other part of the company

Makes me wanna say Hell yeah

Hell yeah

They won't

But what about ROBLOX? D:

Btw Bill Gates was a business tyrant and would do very questionably ethical things throughout his entire career

“First time?”

Cringe comment

Glasses = 🤓 PLEASE LAUGH

you be looking like 👶

Take your meds, kiddo. Conscious consumption is your assumptions of what should be critical thinking. Conscious consumption 😂 did you come up with that yourself? Awareness and critical thinking is all it takes to make a person conscious of the world they live in instead of keeping these Dolts in their bubble of a world it's up to us to pop their bubbles so we aren't living in Idiocracy.

Government controlled by corporations it's litterary result of free market

"If the fine of that is less than 100B dollars then we can definitely say that US government is controlled by those corporations." Might I interest you in the concept of "lobbying?"

I think I almost understand what you mean, but could you walk me through it a little more? I'm learning about graph data misrepresentation right now and I want to be sure I get the logic/failure on this. Here's my specific question: the graph does show that their spending on default placement across those years increased, and their ad revenues from searches also increased. While that in a vacuum is not evidence, I believe it's intended to be supporting documentation. Google was growing very fast, but the case revolves around the premise that the reason for that is their payments for default placement. So what I essentially want to know is--what information should be represented on the graph? What would be better to include in order to better support the argument? I definitely understand that the info included here does not itself prove causation. I think it could be one piece of supporting info for an argument to prove causation though.

Your going on graduate level critical thinking. Something MANY Americans do not possess

Was that the intention at all of showing them together?

Omg so it isn’t just me who had this happened…. Back in 2019 it deleted thousands of my meme pics. F Google

like everything in 2024

it usually does, ain't the first time google's been sued for this exact same reason lol

It's going to go somewhere, why do you think it won't?

Windows Mobile is coming back, baby!

​@@VioletRM As a former windows phone user, I'm all for it.

No it's just the Biden Administration appointed someone that wasn't a corporate bootlicker but actually did their damn fuckin job for once

Another smokescreen