Negan was a very likable savage barbaric villain who know what he was and didn’t act The governor was a hateable posh villain who hid behind a mask of the good guy Think of it as Negan was the Darth Vader of TWD literally as he redeems himself but everyone loves him even as the villain And the Governor was the Palpatine literally he hid behind a good guy chancellor(like the Governor) act and even had one of the protagonist fooled even though other protagonist tried to warn them and in the end doesn’t care and plays the bad guy role
@@thelimon4338Negan was a rapist. Dude ran a harem forcing women to marry him forcing their consent threatening to kill their husbands. Comic Negan was way better than the show Negan
The governor was way more terrifying than negan. I saw a comment on another video about these two and it was something like "the governor is psychopath wearing a man's mask and negan is man wearing a psychopath's mask"
I think the Governor was more scwry when it comes to his mental state but negan was extremely scary when he first appeared with Lucille. Best antagonist appearance of all time goes to negan
Very well put. However in Season 4 we clearly saw the governor act out of necessity in order to survive in the only way he knows how to rather than his enjoyment. He almost appears regretful. I think the Governor would actually win against Neagan. You have to remember in his first battle he only lost to Rick for several reasons: Milton Burned the captive bitters/walkers that he would have used to overrun the prison and Merle killed off most of his manpower forcing him to use the local citizens who were not combat trained The governor's killed off more serious named characters on the show than anyone: Pete Martinez Andrea Milton Merle Axl (prisoner who liked Carol) He's obviously more combat trained with Merle and his guys and his guys were effective raiders not some spoiled followers like Neagan's guys
Nah negan army and his control over his army made him a even deadlier villain but i still dont understand how governor lost with a tank tho i think in a fight govenor wins or maybe at first i think negan is smarter tho
Hard disagree. Always bugged me tbh. Neagan was turning good people like Dwight into actual psychopaths and hid behind its veil like it was the only way to live. Like it was the only way to restructure civilization....if you could even call it civilized. The governor in season 4 had so much growth but always resorted to killing because it was the only way he knew how to live. He killed Martinez out of fear of becoming responsible as a co-leader, and then ended up killing Pete because in his eye he was even less qualified to lead. He tried to escape but saw the walkers in the mud with the reaffirming belief he can't outrun death. Before he killed Pete and Lilly asked "what are you doing?" Before he stepped outside and he just said "...surviving". That's how I define the governor. He wasn't damaging others sanity therefore I find him the lesser evil
A good villain always has an impact on the protagonist you've seen villains like davy jones, vader,joker ,green goblin ,or voldermort that do that. Negan makes a the ambient to feel like the joker whe he says why so serious. Plus he had influence on his weakness,his son.
You forget when Governor 1v1ed Merle (who was pretty much a gladiator in Woodbury) and bit his fingers off? Governor is not only skilled in a general combat capacity, but he's also scrappy as hell. He even completely dominated Rick 1v1. Rick was turning blue from strangulation. Rick wouldve been GONE in S4 if not for Michonne's sword. Which it took him a long time to die, the girl had to shoot him in the head. Sword clean through the back and out the chest. So he gets durability points too.
nah. flukes. merle in shape would have eaten rick alive. same with the governor. gov was only able to kill him because merle was 1 drunk. 2 already fought other duckheads at the time. And then rick. well rick had injuries and shit. Although yeah, gov was pretty fuckin scrappy, nigs is the better fighter though.
You do realize Merle was basically kicked into the ground by at least 3 guys (including Martinez) before the Governor yelled: "you leave him to me!" right? Or did you not watch the show?
I say governor. He legit almost killed Rick if michelle didn’t save the day. Negan had an army and ran from Rick. The governor didn’t give a rats ass to come kill rick. He brought a tank that hardly worked and he brought a few men. Governor underrated af
@@user-ih8n199aswell negan caught rick and his group off guard that night had it been govenor in negans position rick and his group wouldn't live to see the dawn
the governor is a demon but anyone could have killed rick in that moment,but due to plot negan chose to keep him alive,and had him his group and other comunities under control,the governer wasnt that smart or in control with his emotions so he was way more wreckless than negan and that was mostly his downfall,he reacts only off impulsive decisions *negan* is a better leader. @@RickMorty-vw7lz
How tf does Negan take Melee fighting but not strength? Negan may be skinny but he’s a big dude, and beat the snot out of Simon who was an absolute unit
@@mickflick8133 stop it bro. The Governor won fights by cheap shorting and beating people up who were already injured. Not to mention Negan likely has wayyyy more experience in fighting and combat given he survived longer than the governor. Negan clobbers him the same way he did Simon
@@jessec.6876 Not even close bro. The Governor's feats massively outweigh Negan's. Assuming they were all one on one hand to hand the Gov beats Negan 4 out of 5 times.
@@mickflick8133I need an example of those "feats". Is it like killing Merl after he was already beaten by Governor's guys and wasnt able to do anything? Or killing Hershel using katana, while the oldman was tied?
@Ignat Radu bruh ho chance in hell negan can only dominate social situations when he's surrounded by a group of his own armed men without that he can't dominate shit he always gets clowned on or his ass beat the only reason why the governor did all that is because he's mentally unstable not stupid and all negan can do is play on others emotions which will not work against the governor since 1 he's more manipulative and 2 he's a psychopath meaning even if negan manages to piss him off it won't be like the beta situation where he gets dropped no he'll be full of bullets b4 he finishes his sentence
@Ignat Radu he only did all of that because he has the fucking resources to do it dwight would've took him down with ease if he killed that woman who ratted him out negan is like 90% luck in the apocalypse the governor is more manipulative tactical and cunning bro killed a whole military base by himself
@Ignat Radu Bro have u even watched walking dead??? one of the first things the governor does is kill that military base and no1 negan is more charismatic than the governor but he definitely is not more manipulative and tactical he could not put up an appearance that he is not a straight up psychopath and instead had to force people to listen to him and 2nd he lost to ricks group even tho he had the upper hand the governor had shitter soldiers and a smaller army yet he would have won against ricks group if he didnt lose his mind
Nah you forget negan has a lot more feats than the governor when it comes to combat the governor never fought a fair fight he only fought injured people or people that were distracted negan murdered simon with his bear hands when simon even had the upperhand negan is so underrated.
@mrbluewolf5514 the governors army isn't even that massive and he shot the last remaining people he had that were good at shooting cause he was salty and he only had idiots on his team after that💀 and clearly his tank didn't last long cause it was taken out by just a grenade and negan had a fucking rocket launcher so...
@@ratanaksenasam2879 the governor is much more cunning, manipulative and tactical what ur talking about is mental strength which is the only thing negan has over the governor
@@mynamejeff4642 Mental strength is very important. You'd lose if you let your darkness takes over. You can't do everything according to your feelings. Also I think tactical goes to Negan because we had seen what he has built, and he has the largest army. But we don't know how it is built. imo
Endurance governor💀:the bastard received a bullet in the arm, the arm with which he would beat rick in a 1v1 and almost no injuries despite receiving good blows from rick, and after being pierced with a katana he was still alive🗿
First off rick was shot in the leg and had a sprained hand so he didn’t do much to him and the governor was grazed not shot negan survived a car crash and falling through a floor right after and getting hit by Lucille brushed off punches from daryl
@@shade2785 In the fight between the governor and Rick, yes, Rick was injured, but the governor was not in perfect condition either, he had a large bullet in his arm and was out of his prime, and he still handled an enraged Rick quite easily.
@@shade2785 enduring a crash is not a big deal, other characters have endured it the same, what Negan does have is very good durability, he is very rarely seen injured despite the blows he receives
@@taskmaster6669 Lmaoo bro what are u talking about the governor wasn’t hit by no “large” bullet stop the cap if he was hit by a large bullet he wouldn’t be able to use his arm and plus he was only grazed and he wasn’t anymore out of his prime than rick was buddy and rick wasn’t enraged buddy enraged Rick was rick vs joe and the rapist and vs Gareth and easily? Yea now Ik you a meat rider because he had to kick rick in his leg to get the advantage in the fight
Seriously? Tell me how many times rick and Governor came face to face and how many times negan and Rick came face to face. Negan is smart not stupid as governor if negan wanted to kill rick he could do that any moment. He could have killed everyone one of ricks group
The governor fought a injured season 4 rick. Negan best prime rick 3 times bruh what are you on aboht negan mid diffs the governor. And negan has better soldiers then the governor. And the governor isn’t smart either
@@THE-GOAT007 yeah bruh and negan bully’s him bruh his best feat is smashing in zombies heads with his hands. A weak Rick who fought on par with him then like season. 6 rick does the same feat. Then prime rick gets beaten by negan 3 times but the governor beats negan it’s a fucking joke
Strength goes to negan, because he said in one episode that he got so angry that he saw red, and he put a man in the hospital. So strength goes to negan
IQ and Battle IQ goes to the Governor, he managed to defeat Rick multiple times with pretty smart cunning tactics such as the Bread Truck with Walkers in it, or the time when he decisively able to raise and train an army the Saviors under Negan were mostly bad people who had families yes but mostly were bad people who just didn’t care about other lives and were experienced in fighting. Meanwhile the army of Woodbury had regular citizens which were trained pretty damn well, I personally believe plot armor is what made them loose. Other feats the Governor has is able to come back from the loss of his daughter which was turned and ended up running an entire group again taking leadership of it in a cunning way. Negan is much more charismatic and has more competent lieutenants with micromanage his army and the Saviors, Negan is generally only there for the big things such as what we saw when he was bashing people’s heads in. He has more of a cult of personality to him and his people, his lieutenants controlled groups that joined the Saviors without them he’s nothing. The Governor meanwhile was able to easily manage his town and his army able to do military and domestic affairs while protecting their borders with general success, Milton Mamet helped the Governor with domestic and scientific affairs but mostly it was the Governor’s ideas. I believe Negan also was simply influenced by Eugene’s good old mr smart man Southern talking acting like a scientist but in reality he was playing Negan. The Governor was able to make use of a civilian army to defeat U.S Military veterans, while being able to keep people in his town and make it prosperous being organized and well developed the Saviors were more or a rough rider organization that followed their lieutenants such as Simon. We also have to realize that Negan relies more on scare tactics than actual military tactics, as he believes people will submit to him if he bashes one person’s head in or a few spreading fear amongst the people or well the Saviors and their protectorates such as the Hill top or the Kingdom. Generally Negan just has a charismatic personality to him while being a leader makes him form a cult of personality around him. The Governor is a statistics, tactics, and strategic person who knows what he is doing and is able to be successful in how he does it. The battle of the prison was basically a strategic victory for the Governor even though he died, he basically forced Rick to abandon the prison and Rick’s group basically was cut down till they reached Alexandria. Overall IQ and Battle IQ goes to the Governor.
I’m sorry but after watching the governors performance on the show vs negans on the show , I would say the governor feels way more terrifying to not wanna mess with especially if being alone with him just waiting for him to turn on you and easily get pissed to kill you as he does just getting unhinged around others. Guy can take over a group kill his own and make a new one and manipulate people he just met into getting what he wants for only himself and for pure evil . Dude goes far enough to bit a guys fingers off and stare at walkers heads is just crazy enough . Negan only felt scary when having a shit ton of people in a group that surrounds him to where no one could defend them self from him to where his people would quickly grab a hold of you and put you down for him to deal with you afterwards as he smiles for ig to be that easy when dealing with a new enemy . If it wasn’t for him having that kind of celebrity protection and the numbers in his group people wouldn’t easily fear him that much and would take more chances standing up to him to wanna start attacking and so forth. I know negans way worse overall in the comics over the governor than in the show but I would say the governor’s way worse theh negan just show wise . As what we’ve seen with the governor fighting he kicks ass with holding his own especially with one eye with all he’s done . Has his own music and everything . The name of the governors final episode with him dying was titled too far gone wich he was literally too far gone with how evil and lost of humanity he had become . They got negan still on the show being even lucky to be alive to have changed over time with this negan redemption ark story with him now being apart of the group and trying to be a better human being as the governor was a hand full wich he killed more of our og characters in ricks side then negan did . And considering the governor and negan from the comics are both villains, a lot of people are love hating negan compared to the governor people simply just hated him and got nervous and emotional in intense scene’s when he was about to do something to one of our characters . That’s the feeling you get when you see a villians performance on the show like the governor
Rick was always badass! back when he was at war with the Governor, but wasn't as strong during the era of the governor as he was with Negan. The fight with the governor is what makes Rick stronger, and prepares him for Negan and other villains.
How does the governor get weapons when Negan literally has the most badass weapon in the show Edit: Okay guys I get it now the gov has a tank, ya’ll all are just saying it for the meme now 😂
Are you kidding me the governor literally bit 2 of merles fingers off then killed him, he literally had rick beat in season 4 if it wasn't for michonne stabbing him with her sword rick would've been dead for sure but michonne I will say was the one person he didn't do well against at all
Durability goes to Phillip. Dude got stabbed in the eye, shot and he lost his daughter. He even lost his daughter twice in his sick mind but he still doesn't gave up.
The governor was able to fend off a swarm of walkers in an in closed area while negan barely survived a swarm of walkers with help what does that tell you 😐
@alexshawman I'm sorry but if I can remember correctly wasn't negan running from rick him being on his knees begging doesn't count cause if not for his men he'd be dead governor almost strangled him to death
There are rules for dictators. Rule number 1 is to always keep your men happy. When they are happy, you are happy and in control. And Negan followed that rule with certain aspects… Governor however was poor at it. He was a loose Cannon. He didn’t know how to lead. He wasn’t a dictator. He was a tyrant.
The Governor was closer to killing Rick than Negan got. Were it not for Michonne stabbing him in his back with her katana in just the nick of time, he would've choked him out
@@crontonio i have XD negan has peak human feats in the show being able to casually throw rick through a window he can react to bullets and brushed off a motorcycle accident
Nah negan could barely hold his own against Rick, whereas the governor completely dominated Rick with one eye, injured from a gun Shot wound and Rick even had the jump on him.
@@hakuryo3613 Lmao what, acting like being blinded in one eye wont effect you in a fight is absurd. Also fair point, so they were both injured. Ig its up to personal opinion but I just cannot ever see Negan beating the Governor in a one on one.
@@wruxiz6104 Sorry do you have fist fights with your eyeballs? having a missing eye isn't going to affect someone's strength, also Negan had the strength to either crush Simon's windpipe or break his neck not sure which one it was, meanwhile the governor could only strangle rick
I think it's Major General Beal who cuts off Rick's left hand like the Governor did in the comic. Well, there will definitely be a fight between Rick and Major General Beal
I think Negan at his villian prime would actually like the governor and like the way he does things because the governor is so badass he would appreciate that.
IQ and battle IQ goes to Negan, he infiltrated the Whisperer’s camp and played the long game. The Governor wouldn’t stand a chance against the Whisperer’s. Brian never thinks straight, he’s driven by emotional outbursts similar to Shane. In contrast, Negan is driven by logic and experience.
@@Reflex-EditsThese two characters both wears a mask and has incredible superhuman strength. They are also both tall which makes it an exciting match up! Trust me on this! Do Leatherface vs Beta !!
"Battle iq goes to governor" Bro literally lost a war even he has a f*king m60 tank 🤡 And my guy Negan escaped from fully crowded sanctuary, trapped rick(if eugene didn't betrayed we all know what would happen)
Governor had like 10-15 men and Coward Negan had hundreds of ppl who were stealing killing raping and traumatising ppl just as their leader. But ur some boyfans to a coward nothing more
Negan takes strength and speed. He was literally left by Beta to fight a small horde alone and still survived with nothing but a stick. And that was after being locked up for like 7 years way past his prime.
Governor Vs Negan Strength - Governor Durability - Governor Speed - Governor IQ - Negan Battle IQ - Negan Army / Manpower - Negan Weapons / Armory - Governor HAX - Governor Leadership - Negan Community - Negan Combat skills - Governor Weapon skills - Governor Experience - Negan Stability / Mental - Negan 7-8 Negan wins no doubt tho that in a 1v1 Governor might come out on top bro is just more physically stronger and capable than Negan but Negan has IQ and battle IQ in a fight between Woodbury vs Saviors Negan is coming out on top.
I personally think the Governor against Negan one on one. The Governor would win. Negan struggled against Simon. The Governor beat The sh*t out of not only Merle but also Rick. Merle is ex Military. And Rick is a Sheriff. But I LOVE NEGAN. But Governor was a badass for sure. 😊
