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The Grand Seiko Omiwatari Watch After A Month: Surprisingly Flawed Perfection (SBGY007) 

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@ry4639
@ry4639 Год назад
@urbangentry, that is not a ghost position. It is a feature/winding function. it is required to get the watch winding when it has run out of power. pulling it out and pushing it in emits a small charge that gets the seconds hand running, after which the watch can safely be wound. so it is not in fact, a ghost position.
@vinhhua9426
@vinhhua9426 Месяц назад
He didn't even read the manual
@arieandika
@arieandika 2 года назад
Love the balanced review, TGV! I almost pulled the trigger on this piece, mostly because of the common perception that the power reserve on a GS dial is something of an ‘atrocity’ to a lot of people and that this model is an answer to those looking for more symmetry and cleanliness on the dial. But when it comes to GS, my first love is always the SBGA413 ‘Spring’, so I finally pulled the trigger on that one. I actually love the power reserve display as it breaks the symmetry and makes the dial more interesting. The case on the SBGA413 also has more of a presence on the wrist. I actually did try the SBGY007 on the wrist for comparison, and I find it underwhelming as it doesn’t grab my attention. But my eyes kept coming back to SBGA413 hahaha. But I do see why a lot of people would love it, though. On paper, it’s perfect (except for that splash proof part). But I always believe that I should try the thing on first because that’s when I know whether or not the watch is for me. Thanks!
@sinantuna2859
@sinantuna2859 2 года назад
Those are my two favorite GS too! I'm thinking of buying both eventually:) I think they're distinct enough that one can have both, one daily and one dress watch. First the 'spring' tho, on that I agree
@Trevorpartington-yc6ri
@Trevorpartington-yc6ri Год назад
I would pick a GS over Rolex anyday
@TheRunningManZ
@TheRunningManZ 2 года назад
Great vid TGV. There’s one main nagging doubt about jumping into GS for me atm, aside from many of the designs not quite hitting the sweet spot to my taste (of course very subjective, there are certainly some I like). That one thing being…. If an Omega/Zenith/Rolex/JLC etc similarly priced Swiss watch goes wrong, there is a service centre in the UK. It stays local (ish), the turn around is pretty quick if it has to go back. Anyone who’s collected watches for any time will know that even new ones occasionally have to go back under warranty. All the GS Spring Drive ones have to go back to Japan as far as I can tell. This seems a huge floor in their current set up. One I’m sure they will work to address. But knowing the company is there for me if things aren’t quite right is an important factor to me at least when buying new. If they want to compete with all the other brands, they need to up their game on not just the watches as a product but on their aftercare too.
@sopapillas6398
@sopapillas6398 2 года назад
I'm not familiar with UK, but in the US we have a service center in NJ that is able to service most GSs, including a "light polish" that falls short of zaratsu. Zaratsu polishing has to go back to Japan, and is an additional cost of around $700, not including insurance and import duties (which is significant). Pretty expensive considering typical GS prices, but the watch comes back essentially new. There was a thread on watchuseek where a jeweler sent a used Spring Drive to Seiko USA for a polish, then to Japan for proper zaratsu just to see the difference, and long story short, the additional $$$ seems to be worth the money, especially if done every decade or so. That being said, I believe the NJ service center has since updated their equipment and is able to get close enough to zaratsu that you can't tell the difference without macro. But still, I plan on getting mine serviced and refinished in Japan every 10y or so if it's still running fine. Thread is below. Original pics seem to have disappeared, but someone else has before/after pics of their own SD on page 6 which conveys the same the point. www.watchuseek.com/threads/the-zaratsu-journey-a-real-life-experience-with-grand-seiko-s-polishing-service-update-2-5.2371082/ I'm not sure if GS has exploded in Europe like in the US, but if sales start skyrocketing, I'm sure they will follow up with a EU service center as well.
@MarkSmith-pd6fk
@MarkSmith-pd6fk 2 года назад
There are several GS stores in UK plus the postal service back & forth from Japan is so good it usually arrives back the day before it's sent, (joke), especially when a shop has branches in Japan & a trade/postal corridor. I was once told by The Real Mccoy's UK that my in shop order would take just two days to arrive in shop from Japan I thought they were kidding until it arrived two days later...
@UnknownUser-rb9pd
@UnknownUser-rb9pd 2 года назад
As far as I know they do not need to go back to Japan if you are based in North America or Europe and can be serviced in local service centres. They do if you need the watch polished but not for mechanical or spring drive issues. FWIW, the spring drive does not appear particularly complicated. It uses clever components technically but a mechanical escapement on a traditional watch is just as complex .
@TheRunningManZ
@TheRunningManZ 2 года назад
@@UnknownUser-rb9pd I've been in forums where they had to go back, even heard of a Silver Birch (not Spring Drive) having to go back to Japan because it wasnt keeping time on the week of purchase.
@deadpool8340
@deadpool8340 2 года назад
The King of DAYZ loves a cheeky watch vid!!
@just-inedc2381
@just-inedc2381 2 года назад
I’m not typically a dress watch guy but this is one of my favorite watches to come out this year! Amazing video quality as always!
@ayoungtricknamedjim5498
@ayoungtricknamedjim5498 2 года назад
I bought the limited edition (140 pieces) SBGW275 recently. It's one of the most beautiful pieces I own. Paid $4900 but am selling it for $8400. I bought it for my wife but when it arrived she said it was too big for her wrist (she's a miniature version of a real person). Going rate for that piece is $9k+ right now.
@franhenry3324
@franhenry3324 2 года назад
A great video to kick off the year. The effort you go into to produce and edit your videos to such a high standard is really appreciated.
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR 2 года назад
Beautifully made review T, I loved it! The dials on these things are absolutely amazing! A Grand S is coming in the collection one day!!!
@PaintGuy
@PaintGuy 2 года назад
Even with all the “negatives” I think this is the GS i’ve been looking for. Thanks for the detailed review TGV 👍🏽
@thetruthhurts7500
@thetruthhurts7500 2 года назад
You're living up to your channel name.
@noogie13
@noogie13 2 года назад
TGV, hate to say, but you're mispronouncing Zaratsu!! ZA RAT SU, not ZARA ZET SU!! Other than that great video :-)
@mphurious
@mphurious 2 года назад
💯 tried to get this across on the last video. Comes from the German Sallaz machine that is used in mirror polishing. Pronounced "Zallatz" in German, it becomes Zaratsu with Japanese pronunciation.
@diego750
@diego750 2 года назад
Correcting an Englishman mispronouncing a German word mispronounced by the Japanese…👍
@a_life_with_watches
@a_life_with_watches 2 года назад
Thank you for great video and review. I am really impressed your deeply understanding our Japanese culture. I have original 44GS and reviewed in my channel, it's so sharp and brilliant which is exactly same as SBGY007. I hope you can travel to Japan this year.
@mackledee
@mackledee 2 года назад
This is such a lovely piece. It's sad some people will never understand or appreciate the concept of wabi sabi. For me, it's such a fundamental concept in understanding Japanese art and design. As far as your next GS piece... imagine an SBGN003 with a spring drive, display caseback, and bi-directional bezel. Not to mention micro-adjustable clasp! A guy can dream.
@oliverfasola19
@oliverfasola19 2 года назад
The editing in that intro was incredible! Watch reviews don’t require any of that extra work but you always go above and beyond
@timbaker4879
@timbaker4879 2 года назад
9k seriously? GS are wandering into Hublot territory. I have a Seiko Sarb035 and Sarg011 and I wouldn’t swap for this. Don’t get me wrong I would love a Snowflake, but this, not on your Nelly. Happy New year btw x
@tommydude969
@tommydude969 2 года назад
The reason for the second ghost position in to be able to get a better stop hack at the 12 when setting the watch. If there were a ghost date you would feel the date mechanism when setting the watch. This is purely for time setting accuracy, imo its a really cool function.
@jameswong6590
@jameswong6590 2 года назад
Non clicking is not considered a position.
@kw.7142
@kw.7142 2 года назад
I think you have a faulty watch regarding the ghost position of the crown. Just checked my Omiwatari and there is only winding and setting positions.
@blahblah7381
@blahblah7381 2 года назад
Size complaint is bit unfair, on my thick wrist this watch would look like I borrowed a girlfriend's watch. You would consider it if its smaller, I would consider it if its bigger, both things have very little to do with how good the watch really is for somebody with an adequate wrist size.
@TheChadWork2001
@TheChadWork2001 2 года назад
Zaru-zatsu? You added extra letters, just like when Brits pronounce Aluminum with an extra "i" when they say AL you Min ium
@ShanghaiGoat
@ShanghaiGoat 5 месяцев назад
Brits pronounce Aluminium because of how they spell it. The language you both speak is called English, so who is wrong?
@yoinkhaha
@yoinkhaha 2 года назад
Well made video on the whole, but presenting it as surprisingly flawed seems off considering the "negatives" you described. Based on your video, it seems that the "negatives" are: 38.5mm is too large, it's expertly hand-finished, the mainspring barrel isn't skeletonized as it is on GS's pieces costing 6 times more, but it's also too expensive though it's completely in-house and considerably less expensive than Swiss watches of comparable (not to mention some of inferior, cough, Rolex) craftsmanship, and it has an apparent ghost position which upon research doesn't actually seem to be true. Are you sure you weren't just having a bad week? ;-) Maybe the negatives should have just been, "it didn't wow me like I expected it to." No need to rationalize not feeling the watch! I just thought the critiques didn't make much sense, and they usually do in your videos..
@Keffin1
@Keffin1 2 года назад
That Grand Seiko is gorgeous. Love the comparisons with the SARB033. That watch still to this day remains my one and only watch because of this channel. I am lusting for more Seiko's (in particular the SPB143/SSC813) but I might just stick with my one watch collection forever and be happy. Keep up the good work TGV and Happy New Year!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 года назад
Thank you Kevin, the SARB033 is indeed a classic. Thankfully it is in my wife's collection now so I still get to see it on the weekend 😉😂. Honestly it is the only watch you need as you can do everything with it. Enjoy and wear it with pride my friend, that watch really changed my life and my love for Seiko. Best regards, TGV
@torresaccount
@torresaccount 2 года назад
Brilliant intros. The quality of videos are soooo good. Content is good, too. I just realllly wish he’d stop gatekeeping horology and watch enthusiasm so much. The videos are sooooo good without that. Intros and music and production are always excellent.
@smokincooks7661
@smokincooks7661 2 года назад
@@theurbangentry Have you ever had a chance to wear the SARB021, or any of the other colorways? It was a tough decision for me, between the 033 and the 021. I chose the 021 for the case and hands/indices. I love how they float above the space-black dial.
@richplant2205
@richplant2205 2 года назад
I have an 033 too and it’s my go too watch
@triples4good
@triples4good 2 года назад
Really love that Fortis. Would love to add a Grand Seiko at some point but drawn to the more vintage models. Having said that that dial is just amazing. Hope you and your family had a great holiday.
@nemronc
@nemronc 2 года назад
Fortis is one of the most underrated Swiss brands, love the color themes and the clear white contrast they always have on their dials.
@Kjuken69
@Kjuken69 Год назад
Looks like playwatch compered to the GS!
@trevorhofmann1562
@trevorhofmann1562 2 года назад
While many have come and gone over the multiple years I've watched your channel, you remain my all-time favourite horological critic, Tristiano. Thanks for an absolutely fabulous intro, which set this polar piece up perfectly, and all the detail, plus honesty shared throughout. This is a GS I've had my eyes on, but must admit that it's priced higher than I'd like to go for a watch type I don't wear out all that often. I also agree with your assessment regarding size. I have a small collection of '50s and '60s era dress pieces, ranging from 34-36mm, and my vintage-style OrientStar Classic is starting to feel a bit clumsy by comparison. This has been my issue with most every dress watch in recent years, from the humble Bambino to pricier items from Tissot's Visodate, various FCs, and most GS models. They're just too big for my 6.5-inch wrist, which is why I've been enjoying vintage pieces so much, plus a few newer Timex Marlin Reissues, a lovely Mido Commander 1959, etc. Let's hope GS hears our call for something in the 36mm range. I think it would be a massive hit, especially in Seiko's home market. Anyway, I thank you for this review and the many others you've shared over the years, which have enhanced my watch collecting journey immeasurably. All the best to you and yours for 2022!
@dhunter1133
@dhunter1133 11 месяцев назад
Branding is definitely a Western perception issue. The Japanese readily accept that the same company that makes exquisite luxury items can also produce entry-level items, but in the West we'd rather brag about driving a Lexus instead of a Grand Toyota, even though everyone knows who makes them. Why Seiko didn't simply put everything under the Credor marque and call it a day is a bit of a mystery, as this would've solved a lot of marketing issues.
@jeffjenco8009
@jeffjenco8009 2 года назад
The ghost position should not be normal. I don’t experience a ghost position with my SBGY003 which does carry the 9R31 as well.
@jamesmorgan4596
@jamesmorgan4596 2 года назад
It's a beautiful watch. No doubt that it's worth every penny in my opinion. But the Grand Seiko (actually Presage) that stole my heart was the Porco Roso Spring drive with it's happy but classical glossy steel dial. Every time I look at it I'm blown away by it's 'teleporting to my childhood' ability. As they say, A pig that can't fly is just a pig ;) I think you'd like it since the movie is based in Italy and the watch flies those wonderful colors. I love a watch with a bit of fun and this is my grail watch.
@MegaFclef
@MegaFclef 2 года назад
What’s the reference number for that one? Thank you
@jamesmorgan4596
@jamesmorgan4596 2 года назад
@@MegaFclef Seiko Presage Porco Rosso SNR047 I believe.
@Shadowman-1960
@Shadowman-1960 8 месяцев назад
30 meters is over 98 feet deep which is well beyond the sport diving depth limit due to having to decompress on the way up if a diver goes deeper or stays longer than twenty five minutes, so it doesn't make any sense that the specifications say it's only splash resistant or why people that buy watches would think they need any more water resistance than that.
@arcblaze1844
@arcblaze1844 7 месяцев назад
The way the 30m limit works is not that you can dive it to 30m. The way the grade it is different. Hence, it only being splash resistant and not dive ready.
@Shadowman-1960
@Shadowman-1960 7 месяцев назад
@@arcblaze1844 Then it's a lie plain and simple.
@MrKkramme
@MrKkramme 4 месяца назад
Well said @shadowman
@Shadowman-1960
@Shadowman-1960 4 месяца назад
@@arcblaze1844 So how it works is complete bullshit.
@markgads8017
@markgads8017 2 года назад
I think you may enjoy the SLGA007. A bit quirky with respects to case shape, bracelet and oversized crown, but dial is other worldly and the movement is superb. I agree with your assessment on this piece and enjoyed the journey you took us regarding the relevant history. Would love to see you review the SLGA007 and see what you think of it! Cheers and Happy New Year to you and yours!
@vincent67239
@vincent67239 2 года назад
Haven’t they already all been spoken for? Or can they actually be found at any ADs/boutiques?
@frankieracing1048
@frankieracing1048 2 года назад
I have to say the SLGA007 is breathtaking.
@ayoungtricknamedjim5498
@ayoungtricknamedjim5498 2 года назад
Cheers, mate. Thanks for covering this. I'm about to be $8300 poorer...
@nickcosta1093
@nickcosta1093 2 года назад
Classic urban gentry Good show TGV Happy new year HUGO🦖
@tiagodvt
@tiagodvt 2 года назад
Beautiful! I'll never understand why Seiko insists in putting their straps backwards. I know it is related to the buckle being easier to operate that way , but it looks odd when wristed. Easy fix though
@smokincooks7661
@smokincooks7661 2 года назад
Not just Seiko, but other Japanese brands too (Orient Star). It's a JDM thing, apparently it's so the tail-end and keepers are not visible to others. Gives those around you the cleaner presentation, rather than yourself. I keep them that way, as the clasp is backwards and awkward to close. Easy "fix" by swapping the buckle or entire strap.
@tiagodvt
@tiagodvt 2 года назад
​@@smokincooks7661 Yes I know it's not exclusive to Seiko. The easiest fix would be to just change both strap positions. It is a little bit more "awkward" to close, but I actually think it is just a matter of getting used to it. The backwards "GS" doesn't bother me. The keepers and tail on the wrong side definitely bothers me more. I'm just so used to the regular strap position, don't see a need to change it. But it's not that big of a deal, of course. I'm sure some people prefer it and there's nothing wrong with that.
@jacc9061
@jacc9061 Год назад
@@tiagodvt I’m not sure I prefer it, but it certainly isn’t an issue. I’ve gotten quite used to it now. And it is visually cleaner to others.
@icychap
@icychap Год назад
Absolutely maddening. I don't want to reverse the strap because then the signed buckle is upside down, and for the money these command, I shouldn't have to purchase a new strap. The tail should be secured away from me, not obtrusively on the inside of my wrist. A deal breaker? I can't decide... but probably.
@chawenhalo0089
@chawenhalo0089 Год назад
Not enough watch manufacturers forgo that useless window. I feel that you either a complication or not.
@paulhiggins8774
@paulhiggins8774 2 года назад
Classic design but for me a 38 mm would have been better, glad they have now put the power reserve pointer on the back as it makes the dial look a lot cleaner Great review as always and happy new year
@JustinIra
@JustinIra 2 года назад
Anyone know the intro music? TGV consistently kicking it off with bangers...
@77cjam
@77cjam 2 года назад
All the best to you and your family in 2022 sir. It's a stunning watch. I understand your reservations about the finishing. It's like being given a hypercar to test drive for everyday use but being told whatever you do don't scratch it. Far from comfortable. As you know I love Japanese watches so even given the negatives I'd love it, although I agree smaller size wouldnt go amiss. As with the many other previous years videos sublime video. Great production, knowledge. Look forward to another year of great videos and good health to you 🥂
@mgcdillon
@mgcdillon 2 года назад
Hey I just bought one of these and I can't find for the life of me the ghost date position that you mention in this video. I wonder if it's just the one that you got?
@RobertOrtiz1015
@RobertOrtiz1015 2 года назад
GS is just a beast ! That piece is absolutely beautiful and yes … here in Japan they are proud of the brand as they should. Someone said that if you wanna impress your friends… you buy a Rolex… if you want to impress yourself… you buy a Grand Seiko! I love that saying!
@ryanshredz9743
@ryanshredz9743 2 года назад
“Zaru-satsu?” - it’s just zaratsu. It’s how a Japanese person would try to pronounce the German pronunciation of “Sallaz”
@englandsammo3904
@englandsammo3904 2 года назад
I saw this watch and put it on yesterday at my local Grand Seiko dealer and its truly amazing in person. like a lot of watches pictures and videos don't do it justice.
@f.h9698
@f.h9698 2 года назад
How much is it?
@visoak
@visoak 2 года назад
The Spring Drive movement simply does not get enough recognition for its incredible timekeeping mechanism. An electromagnetic feedback loop is a horological marvel that I wish I could see on more watches.
@Ozmeister666
@Ozmeister666 2 года назад
It's a fancy, overcomplicated quartz movement, calm down.
@jerryang17
@jerryang17 2 года назад
@@Ozmeister666 No.
@sopapillas6398
@sopapillas6398 2 года назад
Zaratsu polishing is absolutely incredible. But you're right - I'm much, much more careful with my Snowflake compared to other similar (priced) watches, not because I care about resale value, but just because I don't want to mess up the finishing.
@boilednuts
@boilednuts 2 года назад
So true about Japan's emphasis on nature in their artwork. Indeed the reason being why I adore the various postage stamps they've produced over the decades. GS has done well to encompass this tradition into their dials at such an exquisite level. Many thanks or another review that is very well done.
@Youtubeuser1aa
@Youtubeuser1aa Год назад
Good marketing
@martinharrison4245
@martinharrison4245 2 года назад
To be honest seiko make some very high quality watches now , that grand seiko doesn't need to exist. The name seiko should be enough now , to know ones getting a good watch. I don't think seiko need to be perceived as a luxury brand as such, because people in the know, realise how good they are. Seiko are the people's watch, and even today , still come out with some amazing models to suit all price points.
@diavalus
@diavalus 2 года назад
Bezels enter the chat
@pierremartin9048
@pierremartin9048 2 года назад
I’m quite surprised TGV that value was one of the negatives. Believe this will rocket forward in years to come. But your conclusion is spot on. Best for 2022 to you/family and the channel, as it’s you that got me into serious collecting about 5 years ago and thank you for that.
@fliberatos
@fliberatos 2 года назад
I would love to see you review the new omega aqua Terra small second. That aqua Terra line has been used by omega so many times to bring back their older seamaster designs and would love to hear your opinion on it
@Patrick-pm1sn
@Patrick-pm1sn 2 года назад
Why is it harmful to wild a watch on the wrist, as TGV stated? Never heard that. 🤔🤔
@charliebell5073
@charliebell5073 2 года назад
I'm not an expert, but more than once I've read that you run the risk of applying a sideways torque on the stem. Will you bend it or break it? Of course not, but they say it's just not good for the long-term health of the winding mechanism.
@bernardolhgc
@bernardolhgc 2 года назад
Great review. Just checked and my Omiwatari doesn't have that ghost position on the crown setting. The finishing on this is next level down to the handcrafted bent to perfection hands evoking the Takumi traditional watchmaking spirit. I would like to see the bridge with more complex finishing but the hairline brushing also applied by hand is beautifully restrained and following the function motto. Let's not forget that caliber 9R02 which you compared is fully hand finished applying the most complex and labour intensive techniques by the Micro Artist Studio and can only be found on Masterpieces that cost 6 times more. The Omiwatari is in fact the closest you can get to one of these Masterpieces without having to sell a kidney. Literally, since it was designed and it's produced within the same facility.
@jameswong6590
@jameswong6590 2 года назад
Thank you. Then I don't have to check my Oniwatari on the ghost position.
@bernardolhgc
@bernardolhgc 2 года назад
@@jameswong6590 you bet! This caliber was designed from start without date and will never have a ghost position. On top of that I've never seen any watch at this price point doing that much less Grand Seiko.
@jameswong6590
@jameswong6590 2 года назад
@@bernardolhgc I wonder why TGV's piece is doing that?
@jameswong6590
@jameswong6590 2 года назад
@@bernardolhgc I have checked mine. There is this ghost position. I am disappointed.
@bernardolhgc
@bernardolhgc 2 года назад
@@jameswong6590 well it shouldn't and if it has something might be wrong and you should contact your AD.
@lloydgarth1
@lloydgarth1 2 года назад
No thank you. Too many negatives.
@a_z.tazzzfan8497
@a_z.tazzzfan8497 2 года назад
That 👻 pull has to be a flaw in the piece you reviewed. I can't see GS doing that deliberately for the model. You'll have to do an update video when you find out what's going on with that piece.
@jerryc6497
@jerryc6497 2 года назад
Great review TGV! FYI its pronounced "za-rat-su" - from one GS fan to another :)
@GuyVanderAa
@GuyVanderAa 2 года назад
Grand Seiko is breathtaking. This Omiwatari is another example of the symbiosis between GS and it’s surroundings. They respect nature and reproduce it in their products. That dial is mesmerising. Too bad about the ‘splash resistance’ but fine. The movement is a perfect merger of mechanical and electro mechanical engineering. I have a deep respect for this. Thanks for this lovely review and informative background information. I wish you the very best for 2022, lots of watch time and of course good health!
@krishnantap6813
@krishnantap6813 14 дней назад
The Swiss watch industry is like a big mafia, they prevented the Japanese watches from using the Chronometer grading. Obviously they were stunned and shocked with the very high quality of the Japanese watches. Grand Seikos initially had the Chronometer grading, which they were denied later. Now Grand seikos standards are much tougher than The Superlative Chronometer certification by COSC. Probably most Swiss watches which havebthe C O S C grading will not even pass the stringent test of Grand Sriko standards. Well, lets cleatly understand that the world invariably believes in some labels when there are other better standards and therefore brands.
@Ericbbbb
@Ericbbbb 2 года назад
Enjoyed the balanced take on this stunner. Despite the negatives, this one is on my list as a dress piece. Thanks for the vid!
@a000ab
@a000ab 2 года назад
I am still struggling to understand that why Seiko stopped the production of SARB033 at its pick of popularity? Don't they like money, or ...?
@EricSloferwatchreviews
@EricSloferwatchreviews 2 года назад
Such a beautiful Dial !!!
@EricSloferwatchreviews
@EricSloferwatchreviews 2 года назад
I got Something for you !
@rtbarker
@rtbarker 2 года назад
Happy new year! Beautiful introduction and another great video. If you ever have discussions with insiders in Seiko, i would be curious to know what this intent is behind the reversal of the strap.
@marsoelflaco5722
@marsoelflaco5722 2 года назад
I was wondering the same thing.🤔✌🏽
@smokincooks7661
@smokincooks7661 2 года назад
Not just Seiko, but other JDM watches as well. It hides the tail-end and keepers from those around you, showing them the cleanest presentation instead.
@rtbarker
@rtbarker 2 года назад
@@smokincooks7661 makes sense. I just tried on a watch backwards to check and realized that now I'm stuck looking at the strap. Hmm i guess I'm selfish, but i would rather impose the strap on everyone else for my own satisfaction haha.
@douglaspayne4351
@douglaspayne4351 Год назад
Just bought one for my wife and myself. Having been a big Rolex guy (6), this is a very refreshing time piece that screams class, vs a sub, or even a datejust. We are not rich but can have a few nice things. Will it be my favorite everyday driver? Probably not. When I put on a blue or black sport coat, it will be my choice.
@soilomasbello1156
@soilomasbello1156 Год назад
I understand your point about price and resale and is a valid and reasonable point of view (unfortunately in my opinion this is the way society works). I'm an outlier and always asses anything for what it is and not for what other tells it should be. Would this approach cost me money, well some times, but the feeling of being the only judge of what I really appreciate is priceless.
@seattlegrrlie
@seattlegrrlie Год назад
As the owner of a GS, that Zaratzu polishing is no big deal. I think the value for money would make more sense if you see the quality in person. Watching these videos doesn't truly show the absolute perfection. Also, the Omiwatari blue to silver color shimmer is incredible in person.
@heathwasson7811
@heathwasson7811 Год назад
I'm pretty picky, but I have to admit, the "ghost position" is one of the biggest non-issues to me. I've heard people hark on it endlessly (not necessarily this video), but honestly couldn't care less about the it.
@xu10j4rs1
@xu10j4rs1 12 дней назад
I think ‘splash resistant’ is more accurate than 30m, a lot of people still think 30m means you can swim down to 30m.
@joeloi9043
@joeloi9043 Год назад
I like the back of this watch
@SeagullWaterPurifier
@SeagullWaterPurifier 2 года назад
TGV - what a beautiful timepiece, the 30 metre water resistance is fine for me, I wouldn’t swim or take it on the boat. It is SO Nice, you must remember also that in Japan a lot of luxury watches sold are given as gifts and if this was received as a gift, it would be an honour to wear it! It is still a tradition also by small to larger companies to present these watches to employees for service given. If you think a rolly, brietling or panerai is luxury it just may well be a perspective not based on total craftsmanship. This particular model may have started out as a JDM piece and it evolved into other markets. GS - Grand Seiko May not be seen like other brands to westerners, but is utmostly respected and honoured in its home country 🤗🇯🇵- ....average Joe ain’t buying a Grand Seiko but that’s ok because the real watch lovers are buying them!!
@davidmcnamara3243
@davidmcnamara3243 Год назад
The relaxed, detailed and consice way, you analyse a watch, is behond reproach.
@jaystannard
@jaystannard 2 года назад
If only the Japanese had a word that could describe flawed perfection. A word like Wabi-Sabi
@Mitia_k
@Mitia_k 2 года назад
What is the music used in the intro?
@JanPBtest
@JanPBtest 2 года назад
15:25 Yes, that's the show stopper for me, it looks like a quartz watch or something. _Why did they put this huge metal plate blocking the view?_ What _possible_ function can it be performing?? Everything happens for a reason, so I suspect they are hiding something which makes me even more uncomfortable. If they could make the face and the case with the look of the movement that, say, Snowflake has, I'd be interested.
@djenanberberovic9805
@djenanberberovic9805 3 месяца назад
How would you describe the finissage of the GS in general (mechanical and Spring Drive movements) ? Is the handwork in the finishing comparable to the creme de la creme of the Swiss?
@melvinleok
@melvinleok 2 года назад
In fairness, while it is true we wouldn't bad an eyelid at paying that price (or more) for a Vacheron or Lange dress watch, such a watch would be in a precious metal and feature a better finished movement. The case finishing would also be more subtle, with contrasting finishes, instead of just a fully polished pebble. I have a similar criticism of the Nomos Lambda.
@ExpeditedProductions
@ExpeditedProductions 2 года назад
Really top notch way to start the year, TGV! Excellent production and introduction as always. Never cease to impress. Totally agree about the logo and branding shtick. They will never go with just GS on the dial though. Love the dial aesthetics but the shape and size are overwhelming for the piece. 38 would have been nice but 36 would be perfect. You did a very fair review. I learned a great deal especially about the polishing. That could put one off a GS for quite a bit. Thank you as always. Very very well done. Hope the new year finds you and yours well. Onwards and upwards, my friend!
@MrKkramme
@MrKkramme 4 месяца назад
Another great and honest review and video! I of course disagree with some observations (eg size doesn’t matter to me), but love the subtlety and style of Grand Seiko including spring drive, automatic/mechanical and quartz!
@tracephoto1823
@tracephoto1823 2 года назад
Excellent video. The Omiwatari is my goal for 2022. For all the reasons you’ve listed and more. Everything about this piece screams (or rather whispers) understated elegance for those in the know. Thanks for another great review. 😎👍🏼
@silvermediastudio
@silvermediastudio 9 месяцев назад
Did you get it
@alexm2113
@alexm2113 2 года назад
Happy New Year, TGV and welcome back. Great video to kick off 2022!
@entroheat
@entroheat 2 года назад
Surprised tgv take on this although i think the price should be 6-7k but value proposition is there, hand assembled one of best dials in industry, spring drive and zaratsu polishing those dont come cheap i guess owning a Rolex watch is very infectious and distorts opinions, one more thing TGV reviewed 62MAS hi beat limited edition and eas branded seiko around 5k price and he sang so ma y praises on that time piece that is branded a seiko. Since when seiko logo on expensive well made timepiece became shameful.
@derdummeasi
@derdummeasi 2 года назад
That intro just pulls me in. Great visuals. Grand Seiko just moves something in me. Maybe. One day.
@johnlacroix1639
@johnlacroix1639 2 года назад
WOW very interesting super kool ,1st class great info.,,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.
@1999zrx1100
@1999zrx1100 Месяц назад
I’m looking at a GS Quartz watch, incredible for the money. 🤓
@heho7683
@heho7683 2 года назад
Good review. I agree with most of your points. I remember trying this on in the store. The case is superb and sits just right on the wrist. I would perhaps like it even more in titanium. The dial is not as impressive in person, and along with the disappointing caseback, does not justify the price tag for me.
@06lanevomr
@06lanevomr 2 года назад
Most jewelers will not allow you to take off the shrink wrap that's almost invisible to the eye. Take it off and it's night and day difference
@speedracer2111
@speedracer2111 10 месяцев назад
GRAND SEIKO, FLAWED service for sure! Readers BEWARE! Bought a brand new Lake Suwa Ref 021 with the Spring Drive in Japan after hearing how great GS was. It's supposed to have a 5 day power reserve. I got the watch for a family member as a gift thinking this would truly be a watch he could enjoy for years to come. Never wore or sized the watch. Absolutely brand new from authorized Grand Seiko dealer in Japan. I just opened it up and wound the power reserve to near full and hoped to see it last for up to 5 days. Two days later I go back to see the watch that's in the box and it's stopped running! Now this can't be normal right? Since I don't live in Japan I couldn't go back to the selling dealer. So I went to my local GS dealer in my country and he said this is not normal. He said let us bring it to our Grand Seiko watch repair center to see what they say. 4 days later they tell me oh this is something ONLY Japan can repair and because this model is so new we are not equipped to repair this! I said so I paid about for a new watch and it has to go back to Japan for about a month or more to get repaired? I requested that Grand Seiko simply replace the unit with a new unit and he said they could not do that. I find this practice to be unethical, poor business sense, and a quick way to lose brand loyalty, of which they have not even yet established yet. SO basically I have to pay in full, never get any use from the purchase, and it has to go to Japan for repairs for God knows how long. Not sure Grand Seiko Marketing or Director of Sales would find this remedy to be fair. Anyways, that's my experience with GS so far and no I won't recommend this brand to anyone. If you have any suggestions kindly let me know. I'm not upset that the watch has issues because any mechanical item could go wrong, but only after 2 days and never being worn? What's annoying is how the company has not stepped up and addressed this issue but simply expects the consumer that just paid full retail to now wait several months to get a "repaired" watch back! How is this logical to any major brand bidding to get loyal clients? I decided to reach out to Grand Seiko top management and see if they will intervene and do the right thing. Just wanted to share my experience with GS with your viewers as well. Again, this could very well be an anomaly, but how they are handling this situation is very unprofessional for such a large company. Thank you
@rockhopper88
@rockhopper88 2 года назад
What a timepiece, perfect balance of fine finishing and engineering, looks like I’ll definitely consider getting one in the near future
@FunMushizzle
@FunMushizzle Год назад
Agree, amazing watch but the back is boring. My Christopher Ward watch has a better back, much more of the swiss movement exposed and better looking. The dial and case are stunning... love GS.
@thaiexcellencemobile5816
@thaiexcellencemobile5816 2 года назад
You mentioned at 15:00 GS isn't getting recognition outside of Japan. GS got immense recognition in 2021 by taking a prize at the Grand Prix d’Horlogerie which is the Oscars of the watch industry with it's SLGH005. Our beloved brand can't get more recognition than that. The Shiratsu polishing can absolutely be polished up to remove scratches if need be if the watch is sent to Japan for service. Shiratsu polishing difficulty has been slightly exaggerated for marketing purposes. Love the channel xox
@12e3pi
@12e3pi Год назад
NEGATIVE: Any scratch or ding becomes the focal point whenever viewed. Too perfect for even alert and 'sophisticated' humanity.
@dunderhay9169
@dunderhay9169 2 года назад
Great review 👍 . It is such a beautiful watch, I think I could forgive all the negatives. The ghost crown position and water resistance are very disappointing though.
@alanmcgeagh3475
@alanmcgeagh3475 Год назад
It wasn't until watching your video several times that I appreciated that the "surprisingly flawed perfection" were objections individual to you rather than a description of flaws for the general viewership. Splash proof: I would have thought that this expression was reasonably understood to be 30m (i.e. take it off even for washing hands or dishes). I don't understand how it could effect your opinion for every day use. I have been using merely splash proof watches for more than 50 years and have never once, had an issue with water damage. Scratches: Yes, bad scratches would have to go back to Japan to repair. As far as I know, they don't scratch up any worse than normal steel watches. On my side of the pond, a repair would take 4 to 6 weeks and cost $225. Are your local shops significantly quicker or cheaper than that? Value: You said it yourself, if it had VC, AP or PP on the dial it would be 2 to 3 times dearer, so how can you point that out as a flaw. The top Swiss brands pricing model is based upon "all the market can bear" and have absolutely no relationship to cost of production. When enough people come to understand the craftsmanship, etc. and understand the brand, they will realise the prices are good (relatively). The Calatrava 5227J was always one of my favourite watches but the SBGY002 beats it now, in my eyes - and is $15,000 cheaper. The movement: the movement you referenced as a comparison came from the micro artists studio and costs about $56,000. A bit cheeky of you to expect that amount of detail for $9k Ghost position: the average punter wouldn't notice that since they would pull it out smartly to adjust the time. Even if it is common to the model, who will care! Apart from you. AT least you didn't complain about 19mm lugs (at least I think you didn't) If that is all you can find to complain about then I am much heartened. All I need is to find the spare funds, someday...:)
@canonyeo4286
@canonyeo4286 2 года назад
Beautiful watch. I bought the 003 new for $5500 after discount. Just as beautiful. Put on a pin strap and wear and look much better. I did the same for the sbgk005 which is slightly cheaper. Excellent review
@wendyandgeoffpattison2610
@wendyandgeoffpattison2610 Год назад
No, I think that dial is kinda boring, maybe with the date at 6? Titanium case and bracelet? Sbga413 is next level, even with the power reserve indicator on the front. Beautiful piece the Shunbun. Anyway, nice review mate. O&U
@serviceprive
@serviceprive Год назад
Thank you for this complete , clear presentation
@mannycalavera2335
@mannycalavera2335 2 года назад
Grand Seiko's elegance collection needs 100m water resistance. I bought one, the Kanro (SBGE271G) because it has 100m water resistance. But it is a pity that I love so many of them but am too often around water to ever feel comfortable wearing them.
@davids9549
@davids9549 2 года назад
Forgive me but isn't the strap the wrong way round? The buckle end is normally affixed to the 12 o'clock end afaik?
@SimonK3113
@SimonK3113 Год назад
The symmetry is beautiful without the date, & that silly power meter....which hold me back from a Springdrive. Now I must go find mojo to own this...🤭
@pwmaudio
@pwmaudio 2 года назад
2022 and still not accepting Grand Seiko as a premium brand comparable to the best Swiss manufactures and questioning their price. Even after all their achievements, after all their technical marvel, after their proven quality. Incredibly disappointing to hear that. Sorry but it's thumbs down for me...
@m2pozad
@m2pozad 2 года назад
The oversized dial area really did become surprisingly apparent with the distance shots on the wrist. I don't think the brand stigma is in name only. Japan practices manufacturing imperialism. They try for total domination wherever possible. So there is a self-preservation nationalism that biases the West.
@thetruthhurts7500
@thetruthhurts7500 2 года назад
The most a watch like a GS should cost is $2,500 ....Things like the ghost position on the crown is an example of not really giving the extra attention that would warrant 9 grand. In the end its just another xtra-shiney "splash resistant" Seiko lol......Better off with an Orient.
@dandc2011
@dandc2011 2 года назад
Hey not talking shit but I noticed that in every video that Zaratsu polishing is mentioned, you say "ZARA-ZAT-SU" and it drives me nuts, man. There's only 1 letter Z in the word. Zar-at-su.
@an_kan
@an_kan 9 месяцев назад
Its a really beautiful watch.Its a classic dress watch that is not cheap and worth every penny. It's a watch that you want to live with it many years in the future, and here comes the big question. Will the Spring Drive last in the future like other "pure" mechanical movements?
@jeremyxu2621
@jeremyxu2621 2 года назад
Dude TGV. I love your videos, but you murder the Japanese words adding sounds that aren't there. It's not zaru-zatsu, it's zaratsu. Meiji is also pronounced may-gee.
@truxton1000
@truxton1000 2 года назад
I am not a particular fan of the spring drive, specially when the words "spring drive" has to be printed on the dial. Watches with manual wind has this not printed on the dial so why? Not a huge fan of the texture of that dial either. I only own one modern Grand Seiko and thats with the quartz 9F82, to me quartz is generally not interesting but I make an exception for the GS....! And by the way the words "quartz" is NOT printed on the dial, had it been the case I would never bought it.
@mostlysunny4u
@mostlysunny4u Год назад
Your review and choice of words are so balanced and unbiased. Thank you for a great review.
@joshwoodhead1163
@joshwoodhead1163 Год назад
Absolutely gorgeous watch... Some day maybe I'll get a grand seiko....
@frankpentangeli7945
@frankpentangeli7945 2 года назад
It's Zaratsu finishing. Why do you pronounce it "Zaruzatsu". I don't speak Japanese or anything, but I haven't heard anybody else pronounce it as you do.
@Cocorayko
@Cocorayko 2 года назад
TGV made a new word: zaruzatsu :) Can't help to notice it, maybe because I'm neither English nor Japanese native speaker...
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