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The Great Blizzcon Debate feat. Emongg, Flats, Fareeha & Freedo 

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@GroupUp
@GroupUp 10 месяцев назад
This episode was recorded on 10th November 2023. Podcast links below! If you're enjoying this content, why let SVB know on his stream (www.twitch.tv/svb_ ) or his second channel The Soak (youtube.com/@TheSoak ) where he does movie, TV & anime breakdowns! The best way to support the podcast is still www.patreon.com/svb Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/ow_svb/the-great-blizzcon-debate Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/6sRWutKTc0gnWuguo62Vpa Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/svbs-group-up/id1490256265
@Bacchus325
@Bacchus325 10 месяцев назад
So happy to see Emongg here. Dude really is such an awesome member of the community.
@deadhelix
@deadhelix 10 месяцев назад
He is always so upbeat and positive and it makes me strive to have a similar mentality. Overwatch can be at its absolute lowest and emong will still find something to smile about
@doublechindoge7
@doublechindoge7 10 месяцев назад
I just realised - is this the first time he's been on? How have I not noticed how much he's been absent?
@Bacchus325
@Bacchus325 10 месяцев назад
​@@doublechindoge7yes it's his first time they say it at the beginning of the podcast
@kinshra639
@kinshra639 10 месяцев назад
Emongg on GroupUp? Let's go!
@ReivecS
@ReivecS 10 месяцев назад
I feel like Fareeha has a game of her own going on here where she wants to see how many times she can duck her head under the camera before someone asks about it. Kind of like seeing how many times you can say meow in a conversation before it gets pointed out.
@b23beatz
@b23beatz 10 месяцев назад
Have spilo on to debate mauga at launch. He had some good takes about his problems with hero design in overwatch 2
@jplayzow
@jplayzow 10 месяцев назад
The dev who talked about wings of liberty vs pink skin was Pirate Software on yt
@tysonmionnet9256
@tysonmionnet9256 10 месяцев назад
i think to make the issue of struggling to figure out what hero it is due to skins. they should add a client side option to force the defaults for hero skins. you would still have skins on when your on the hero's, however all enemies and teammates have the default skins. its not really a big issue now but later on it could be very handy.
@KingOfNebbishes
@KingOfNebbishes 10 месяцев назад
I'm going to love 6 months after the comp "rework" when people figure out that there's no difference between "narrow" and "wide" matchmaking and the only thing relaxing group restrictions will do will be allowing boosting.
@lruddy8820
@lruddy8820 10 месяцев назад
Yea but at the end of the day who cares, its a video game meant for people to play with friends and have fun so restricting that is pretty bad mechanic
@skeeteronthewater1568
@skeeteronthewater1568 10 месяцев назад
I don't care about that aspect lol that's the least of the issues 😂 I just want post game updates and to know what ranks are in the lobby I'm in
@EJW2003
@EJW2003 10 месяцев назад
I genuinely think Flats doesn’t understand Maugas self heal mechanic after watching his video of him trying him out
@Robellebor
@Robellebor 10 месяцев назад
Lol
@cjwalker1593
@cjwalker1593 10 месяцев назад
The way I understood the clash point system is that it gonna be kinda like domination in cod. Where the more objs u have captured the higher ur points go per tic. Like if u have 4 objs ur points would go up by 4 a second compared to the 1 per second that the team defending their last obj 2:17:37
@jplayzow
@jplayzow 10 месяцев назад
OW History: holy shit > it's so over > we're so back > it's so over > we're so back > it's so over
@Mr.Siege-
@Mr.Siege- 10 месяцев назад
Fareeha saying that the single player stuff would be played once and then moved on kinda hurt. I was looking forward going through campaign missions and getting the skill trees to try out different weird builds like a combo of borderlands (without the loot stuff) and left 4 dead with the overwatch abilities and characters
@Mickeyshere
@Mickeyshere 10 месяцев назад
If you were watching flats play the new tank, you would take his opinion on Mauga with a grain of salt. Bro had no idea how to play him( makes sense he was at blizzcon until the very end of the trial, so no hate). He was using his charge aggressively and getting blown up when he charged into 5. every other top 500 streamer like yeatle would play very defensive, basically only charge to get to new cover positions or when a fight is basically won already to chase, and build his incredibly strong ultimate. Mauga really has to use the cardiac cooldown at the right time or play passive and disengage, like a bastion turret form.
@domothebro2435
@domothebro2435 10 месяцев назад
1:27:40 i wonder why flats thinks that $68 for 5 skins is reasonable when full AAA games are valued generally at $60?
@Mezc0
@Mezc0 10 месяцев назад
Only now noticing Emongg doesn't pronounce G's at the end of words, and it's going to bug me forever
@spats3641
@spats3641 10 месяцев назад
I broke up with Overwatch after the PvE debacle, but the one thing that would bring me back is taking the heores out of the Battlepass and just available to eveyone at launch. I will be forever tilted by that decision.
@felipetrujillo6135
@felipetrujillo6135 10 месяцев назад
1:51:42 - 2:03:32 Bruh Freedo gotta shorten up his points better because that was 12 minutes of talking. Im a subscriber of YourOW and i do think he has value in what he says but goddamn they gotta be more concise and shorter cuz they turn into ramblings after a while.
@FGPlus
@FGPlus 10 месяцев назад
Fax. He's so cringe.
@KingYahtzee
@KingYahtzee 10 месяцев назад
IDK if you all got the news, but WE'RE SO BACK!!!!!!!!
@dancrew6721
@dancrew6721 10 месяцев назад
I appreciate everyone's hype for what was announced and what COULD be coming in the future... but we have had announcements like this before only to have the carpet pulled out from under us. I am strictly in "Call me when its ready" mode. I'll believe it when I see it.
@Mantrahiroshima
@Mantrahiroshima 10 месяцев назад
This isn’t pve they actually showed real things here.
@kayanono
@kayanono 10 месяцев назад
Another episode of FreedoTalk lmao
@Doomthepixarkid
@Doomthepixarkid 10 месяцев назад
I think clash will be great for OW. It’s linear nature will be very good for OW understandability. A more structured push mode. Every match will be like kings row. I think we have enough of the og game modes maps. I think one a year from escort/control/hybrid would be fine with me.
@darksamiri4304
@darksamiri4304 10 месяцев назад
Freedo plz!!! I love you man but please just shorten the vast amount of things you wanna talk about 😂
@nenjutsu1774
@nenjutsu1774 10 месяцев назад
The security part sounds annoying but considering we're in America. You can't be too cautious. I'm glad security was THAT annoying. Just means they were really cautious and careful.
@BeforeThisNovember
@BeforeThisNovember 10 месяцев назад
Emongg - the OW Seth Rogan
@HumbleJesus
@HumbleJesus 10 месяцев назад
yo, i've been waiting on this one.
@neodaltiair8624
@neodaltiair8624 10 месяцев назад
Push is miles better than 2CP lol
@marcusbullock2753
@marcusbullock2753 10 месяцев назад
The best podcast.
@ItzSath
@ItzSath 10 месяцев назад
Guess what? I was able to import a car by not constantly spend money on micro-transactions. Buying the game is fine, you save more by not spending on dumb shh...
@therealzahyra
@therealzahyra 10 месяцев назад
You finally had Emongg on stream lessgooooooo!!!
@rangerguy
@rangerguy 10 месяцев назад
I'm afraid of how hopeful blizzcon made me for the future of overwatch
@damonblack1495
@damonblack1495 10 месяцев назад
I totally disagree with Flats about the monetization. The k-pop shit is MORE than the price of a triple A game for like 4 skins. SF6 came out and they had a bundle you could buy for the base game that included all the first year dlc characters, an extra skin for each of them and 2 stages for 50$ and I thought I was getting gouged there. But that is 4 characters, 4 skins and 2 stages. You can buy fking Diablo 4 for what the 4 skins in OW cost. And then he has the balls to say some dumb crap like, and I am paraphrasing, "we need to stop critiquing the shop". How is he ever surprised anytime someone call's him a shill. This is the definition of it.
@deadhelix
@deadhelix 10 месяцев назад
problem is 20$ skins in a free game has been so normalized that getting a bundle of 4 of them and some other things for 50$ is gonna be seen as “generous”. I am of the firm belief that if legendary skins were just 10 bucks it be a win for everyone, you wouldn’t be spending the same amount for some indie games for a single cosmetic which would make more people willing to buy and bundles would be priced around what the skin on its own used to cost so whales will still buy it as well as some others. My only issue is that with live service plague unfortunately that shit pricing makes people want to spend 20 bucks on a “limited” cosmetic instead of a game that could be amazing just because they want to look pretty in the game they already play
@ashonline77
@ashonline77 10 месяцев назад
I'm not arguing against your point but I'm pretty sure its 5 skins instead of 4. IMO it definitely would have been too high for 4 skins but for 5 skins being essentially $10 each its not as much.
@RIP_ZYZZ1738
@RIP_ZYZZ1738 10 месяцев назад
The difference is 5 skins and the fact that they are skins and not literally buying a character bundle. Also, skins are not mandatory and people had this critique for loot boxes
@zacharywoodford8530
@zacharywoodford8530 10 месяцев назад
Skins are also pointless, and the game itself can be played 100% for free. I agree they are ripping people off with the skins, but you also don't have to buy them to enjoy the game to its maximum level. I personally love it cuz overwatch is my favorite game, and the more money it makes the more attention it will recieve from blizzard.
@RIP_ZYZZ1738
@RIP_ZYZZ1738 10 месяцев назад
@@zacharywoodford8530 Yeah. People are acting like they're scams but you're getting what you paid for. If you don't think it's worth that money, don't buy it
@MichaelSmith2233
@MichaelSmith2233 10 месяцев назад
I feel like the passives shouldn’t be role locked (there’s too many different abilities and skillsets to balance it), instead lock characters to a specific passive. Use them for baseline character balance instead of roles (I.e zenyatta with dps passive, mei with tank passive, JQ with support passive, ball with dps passive) then tweak from there. You could even add a couple more new general passives in the future.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 месяцев назад
I was confused just reading that, let alone balancing it. Role passive make sense and have balanced things just enough, they don't need to make any new major changes to them, just new interactions: a dps who negates the tank boop resistance, a support that slows down your shooting or reload, stuff like that and then heroes to then add boop resistance, more Kiriko ults. That's how you balance with a metaphorical wrecking ball
@MichaelSmith2233
@MichaelSmith2233 10 месяцев назад
@@nailinthefashion it is essentially the same thing as you said except these effects are standardized like how the role passives are. Forget that they are role specific and think about how any character can have one these passives. Then you wouldn’t have characters with useless passives for their kits, or vice versa an over powered passive for their kit.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 месяцев назад
@@MichaelSmith2233 every one already has very bloated kits that the low end don't fully utilize, to add more clutter is a mistake of the naive not the stroke of a master. Believe what you want, but they aren't doing that because that's insane, like the hero missions having so much depth. It's a great concept, but we already have things like Junkrat's mayhem on top of the role passive lol. They have the freedom to add more but are openly telling us they don't want to do that unless the hero or ability really calls for it. And you're right, sometimes the passive is redundant, and that hero needs no more help performing reasonably well otherwise they'd get the tweak 🤡
@MichaelSmith2233
@MichaelSmith2233 10 месяцев назад
@@nailinthefashion huh, I’m not taking about adding extra abilities ontop of the role passive I’m saying keep those passive irrespective of the playable characters but simply switch around the ones that provide nothing to the character or to tune them back, then moving forward new characters don’t need to adhere to the ideal that a tank needs boop resistance to be viable, having that support passive on the tank would more interesting. Its not adding anything in fact it is taking away so that certain aspects of characters aren’t over tuned or punished for not adhering to the basis these role passives were created for, at the low end and at high end. I understand the balance of many heroes are okay and see why you’d object due to misunderstanding, and if you still object to it, that’s okay, thank you for your input.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 месяцев назад
@@MichaelSmith2233 no, I understood, I just think that would be so insane to balance, you clearly do not have any experience and might even be new to overwatch in general lol. That sounds like first iteration hell, and what they would have dome in OW1 but now we have more concise identity and DON'T have something silly like a tank that heals without an active ability .... my god ..
@davidhvacddc
@davidhvacddc 10 месяцев назад
Please Change name of new rank! Sounds like doodoo. Start a boycott
@User-pu3lc
@User-pu3lc 10 месяцев назад
On one hand, the devs seem to be making good changes to the game… on the other hand… Blizzard sold the Overwatch League rights to the Saudis 😂
@borisvandepoel2703
@borisvandepoel2703 10 месяцев назад
Finally EMONG!!!!
@IHJello
@IHJello 10 месяцев назад
LFG! I joined the paytch!
@bobothebob4716
@bobothebob4716 10 месяцев назад
why are people shit talking jeff? this new ow2 is a shell of what it used to be. Just letting you know a huge part of the community was behind him. Maybe, at least everyone I play with. Between the new sojourn skin looking like a knock off LoL skin, and an autotuned pop band getting a $70 skin pack, i didn't think OW "2" could go any lower. But here I am, my favorite creatores all hopping on the Wish LoL dev team. Very sad this day.
@nekogami87
@nekogami87 10 месяцев назад
Because a lot of things were also his fault ? Yeah there was a shit show at blizzard internally, but 2/2/2 delay, GOAT, patch rythm, all of that, that's on him as the director too. While he did lead the origin of OW, he is also a big part of the issue the game had (update cycles, keep pushing back on things). been there the first 2 years of the game, came back multiple times to see what changed (not much till OW2 really) and yeah OW2 is 100% better than what we had before. EVEN with the current issues we have.
@bobothebob4716
@bobothebob4716 10 месяцев назад
@@nekogami87 I'm glad your happy. I'll continue to miss the days where i would discuss OW1 in Starbucks (of all places), with people literally knowing the leadership by name. I know the top .05% were unhappy with the meta comp, but I'm going to spoil it for you, the top .05% in any community is always unhappy (that's why they made it that far). Anyway, if they ever start wondering why they need to charge their shrinking consumer base so much, it's cause the game just doesn't hit it anymore. Smaller base, smaller profits. Also, as a Game Designer myself, it's a severe warning sign that they are doing bottom up, instead of top down design. You'll see in in a few years time, I'm sure of it. Anyway, I hope you get at least some joy from it, because there is a spark behind the idea of OW. I just wish you could have seen what it might have been.
@Shzl47
@Shzl47 10 месяцев назад
Jeff Kaplan didn't want to make a competitive shooter game. That's where the gripes come from for all the players that want Overwatch to feel competitive.
@RIP_ZYZZ1738
@RIP_ZYZZ1738 10 месяцев назад
​@@bobothebob4716You're just flat out wrong lmao 😂 Everyone was complaining about GOATS. OW 1 is infinitely worse than OW 2. The only redeeming quality was the SR system being better than this new system.
@bobothebob4716
@bobothebob4716 10 месяцев назад
@@Shzl47 While I hear this commonly repeated from the community, there is no evidence that this was the case. Jeff was in charge and literally created a competitive shooter. Just because he wasn't given enough resources to pursue PVE, doesn't mean that he didn't care about PvP. In fact, every single hero up to and including Mauga that has been released was a hero created under his watch.
@snakelord2234
@snakelord2234 10 месяцев назад
Fareeha is our socialist queen 👑
@eosrose6126
@eosrose6126 10 месяцев назад
Fareeha, u re beautiful
@FatHeadDave
@FatHeadDave 10 месяцев назад
When we getting STYLOSA on the podcast?
@FlipsMG
@FlipsMG 10 месяцев назад
No, just no.
@FatHeadDave
@FatHeadDave 10 месяцев назад
@@FlipsMG aw why not
@lucan465
@lucan465 10 месяцев назад
Dude; the overwatch content creators have to take their beer goggles off and become equipped with reality…. P.s. just because you’re realistic doesn’t make me you a doomer. I’d much prefer to listen to someone who is realistic, than a lot of these rose tinted glasses takes. Blizzard has been playing you guys for some time now c’mon….
@neodaltiair8624
@neodaltiair8624 10 месяцев назад
The complaints on skin prices are just silly…people buy the skins so they charge more simple supply and demand.
@FlipsMG
@FlipsMG 10 месяцев назад
Except there's no limited supply of a skin once it's created, so you're just completely wrong in every way lol.
@neodaltiair8624
@neodaltiair8624 10 месяцев назад
@@FlipsMG you know some skins are limited in that Battle pass right?
@neodaltiair8624
@neodaltiair8624 10 месяцев назад
If people are willing to pay the price point, then charge the price point
@Daveyjonesvi
@Daveyjonesvi 10 месяцев назад
I mean sure but it’s a digital product. They produce it once and can give it to anyone. Prices are high for single character skins and that will remain the general consensus. The complaints are valid no matter the price as it is ultimately subjective
@neodaltiair8624
@neodaltiair8624 10 месяцев назад
@@Daveyjonesvi the complaint is usually Blizz bad for charging this much if subjective then it can’t be Blizz bad
@c_sual
@c_sual 10 месяцев назад
Freedo's waffling too much. Gotta be more concise
@bustin9938
@bustin9938 10 месяцев назад
Svb? Nah more like MVP 🥱🎉⚠️💥💥
@GMULL32
@GMULL32 10 месяцев назад
Real
@harkb6792
@harkb6792 10 месяцев назад
Real
@FrankGrimes311
@FrankGrimes311 10 месяцев назад
o7
@rioriorio17
@rioriorio17 10 месяцев назад
The greatest GOAT of all time
@SadMatte
@SadMatte 10 месяцев назад
@@rioriorio17The greatest "Greatest of all Time" of all time
@farslashenjoyer
@farslashenjoyer 10 месяцев назад
This podcast rules. All the regular guests have such good insight and a talent for communicating. Combine that with SVB's high empathy and ability to smartly funnel the conversation in productive directions and you've got a banger every episode.
@galev3955
@galev3955 10 месяцев назад
For real SVB's hosting skill is really good. It becomes even more apparent when you watch other panel discussions or podcasts, they can fall apart so fast, but he keeps this together so seamlessly.
@HumbleJesus
@HumbleJesus 10 месяцев назад
realest comment of all time
@doublechindoge7
@doublechindoge7 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely! Seriously, I feel like SVB always gets together some great creators for this style of video. Obviously a lot of that is down to regulars like Freedo and Flats being pretty qualified for these kind of talks, but even the more one-off guests are usually of pretty consistent quality. Only thing I could say is I'd like to see more Spilo, but considering he finally got in with the last one, I'm guessing we can look forward to seeing more of him in future. I definitely feel like Flats and Spilo are always giving some of the best commentary on the state of the game and solutions.
@HumbleJesus
@HumbleJesus 10 месяцев назад
@@doublechindoge7 spilo is an idol to me. One of the top girlies, if you will.
@hugo-zi6gm
@hugo-zi6gm 10 месяцев назад
Fareeha has a unique passion for the game that makes her really fun to listen to. I hope she’s on more episodes going forward.
@JoeMinn3
@JoeMinn3 10 месяцев назад
We stan the queen
@hirokoaki
@hirokoaki 10 месяцев назад
@@JoeMinn3^^^^
@zc8673
@zc8673 10 месяцев назад
She's definitely one of my favorite guests. I wish she got to speak more tbh
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 месяцев назад
And she sings, does calisthenics, has a beautifully cozy and welcoming community, so why she gotta have stupid lungs???? I'd happily donate mine Strange Aeons got them party city balloon lungs too 😭 can cool people just have stable health plllzzzzzzz
@BrandonCole-sc7pq
@BrandonCole-sc7pq 10 месяцев назад
I hope she adjusts her monitor more going forward
@jaxsonburch-eo1vz
@jaxsonburch-eo1vz 10 месяцев назад
We need an Overwatch animated TV show.
@TrueNyxis
@TrueNyxis 10 месяцев назад
That would be so awesome
@-NoNo.
@-NoNo. 10 месяцев назад
@@TrueNyxisI know technically it’s not a tv show but overwatch had a short anime leading up to the invasion season and it was fantastic. I think it was only like 3-4 episodes and each episode is like 8 minutes but it was great
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 месяцев назад
I would prefer a movie trilogy but I get that that would be a massive undertaking Either way I want a hero revealed in the show or whatever and then we get them a week later. Mauga is cool but when they went all out for Sombra, it felt so impactful. Watching videos of people deciphering every little clue was so fun. I hope they do more stuff like that again ... these unceremonious drops feel so corporate when it can easily have a lil sumn sumn even just Instagram posts idk
@tatepierson4626
@tatepierson4626 10 месяцев назад
1:38:15 summit takes a quick “snack” 😂
@BeastMode-bw2ry
@BeastMode-bw2ry 10 месяцев назад
Can we get a "We're so back!" going?? Flats will probably hate me.
@blancange1872
@blancange1872 10 месяцев назад
We’re so back!
@silentdc404
@silentdc404 10 месяцев назад
Haven’t started it yet, I am ready to hear “We’re so back” every couple min
@smallertoast8806
@smallertoast8806 10 месяцев назад
We're so back!
@ooochoa
@ooochoa 10 месяцев назад
You know what? No. It's Winstover :"c
@solairedude7119
@solairedude7119 10 месяцев назад
we're definitely not back it's Blizzard
@DrJayPlays
@DrJayPlays 10 месяцев назад
Someone put Freedo on a timer each time he speaks. Bro turns a single point into 5-10mins of rambling tangents (e.g. 38:00 - 48:00 ) 😅 Probably a side effect of having a channel where you only talk (which i did used to watch a lot when really into OW) ahaha. Still, this is probabaly my favourite guest list so far on these podcasts - gj :)
@everilliem3292
@everilliem3292 10 месяцев назад
I enjoy the rants, to be fair overall, he didn't say oodles this episode in comparison to others
@kayanono
@kayanono 10 месяцев назад
i call this podcast FreedoTalks for a reason. super annoying at times. Its not his show there are 4 other ppl waiting to talk. read the room..
@everilliem3292
@everilliem3292 10 месяцев назад
@@kayanono If svb wanted to let others talk he would stop freedo talking, cry more.
@kayanono
@kayanono 10 месяцев назад
@@everilliem3292 during this u can see SVB trying to do that politely. Constantly going "right.", wanting to interject. It is a fact that Freedo rambles the longest and its been brought up in the comments too, which he reads so he may wanted to make it more even
@everilliem3292
@everilliem3292 10 месяцев назад
@@kayanono saying "right" is agreeing and acknowledging, NOT, a form of interjection, do false....SVB is a great host and ALWAYS directed the conversation to other guests throughout all his podcasts cutting them short, often with a "I think... Such and such" or a "I would like to get X's thoughts on this" or he politely just moved to another topic. People seriously here crying over freedo having an opinion on a matter where the whole idea is for people to share opinions, it's just nuts, especially considering how Little freedo contributed overall to this episode by comparison.
@BAIARJ
@BAIARJ 10 месяцев назад
Emongg finally joined. This guy is awesome. Also Fareeha should be leader of the balancing team in this game
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 месяцев назад
NO DO NOT LET HER COOK I DO NOT WANT A PHARAH META.... NAWR....... N'OAR..........
@BeastMode-bw2ry
@BeastMode-bw2ry 10 месяцев назад
Better than a bastion mei meta.
@ZensayOW
@ZensayOW 10 месяцев назад
@@BeastMode-bw2ry Not really, Mei & Bastion comps are a lot more interesting than Pharah spam comps.
@kendolson1123
@kendolson1123 10 месяцев назад
I think the KPOP collaboration is underrated. The KPOP skins are the first time a skin has had a "community" . When I see another player with a Le SSerafim skin , we immediately bond and hit emotes together. "Themed" skins that aren't just things like "Medieval" will create that sense of community. OW2 also suffers from having great skins, but virtually no way to show them off to other people (other then them seeing it in fights). Valorant for example has expensive gun skins, but you can throw your gun to teammates so they can see it and appreciate it. I've always thought something like a pre-game inspection screen where you could see other players skins etc. in the lobby would make skins MUCH more valuable.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 месяцев назад
Did you forget about One Punch? It permanently changed the ecosystem of OW fans and attracted more hardcore otakus who literally roleplay as OW characters now haha. Similarly, seeing the kpop stans rise has been amazing. I get your sentiment and I hope they do more, clearly they are nerds just like us, so I love seeing what inspires them
@yamchacrater2913
@yamchacrater2913 10 месяцев назад
Freedo always talks for way too long it gets absurd
@Daveyjonesvi
@Daveyjonesvi 10 месяцев назад
He needs a timer
@larryevans3369
@larryevans3369 10 месяцев назад
Tbh all i got from blizzcon was we've got amazing changes but just wait next year so basically don't play overwatch 2 till 2024 😅
@VerySaneDr
@VerySaneDr 10 месяцев назад
They talked a lot about a lot of things that are supposedly incoming, little evidence for it as of now.
@calmguru1274
@calmguru1274 10 месяцев назад
This has been the blizzard cycle for so long. The game will be good just give us time -> something gets fucked up massively -> the game sucks they never listen to us -> its awful for a while -> the game will be good just give us time. On repeat since 2016
@VerySaneDr
@VerySaneDr 10 месяцев назад
@@calmguru1274 2016-2018 was good. Tank busters pushed things downhill real fast.
@RIP_ZYZZ1738
@RIP_ZYZZ1738 10 месяцев назад
​@@calmguru1274Difference is Bobby Kotick fuckin up the system. They're already doing updates for Mauga. Before, they couldn't even fix the Hanzo bow glitch for a full month.
@RIP_ZYZZ1738
@RIP_ZYZZ1738 10 месяцев назад
​@@VerySaneDrIronic since the downfall of the game came from goats LMAO
@Suphii
@Suphii 10 месяцев назад
Svb probably the best podcast host in general for most podcasts
@AbbyOW2
@AbbyOW2 10 месяцев назад
My favorite mornings are waking up to these uploads. Cheers SVB. Hugely appreciate your efforts to the OW community. ♡
@cosmonautyy
@cosmonautyy 10 месяцев назад
Love this podcast and your channel too!
@forcekin1350
@forcekin1350 10 месяцев назад
Dude, Freedo. Let the others talk, man. He has good points but Goddamn this man can ramble on.
@ex2738
@ex2738 10 месяцев назад
Some of his points aren't even good it's just ramble.
@dafaz4685
@dafaz4685 10 месяцев назад
I usually watch these on 1.5 speed. Have to go to 2.0 whenever freedo opens his mouth and it’s still too slow. Dude needs to listen a bit more and stop rambling. I unsubscribed to his account so long ago cuz all he did was ramble
@Kanggaxx
@Kanggaxx 10 месяцев назад
I thought this wasn't as bad as usual.
@ghostwalker435
@ghostwalker435 10 месяцев назад
Its a podcast, thats the point. The only one who doesnt ramble is fareeha
@darksamiri4304
@darksamiri4304 10 месяцев назад
​@ghostwalker435 I feel it is kind of excessive. I like hearing what he has to say, but it can get frustrating when he goes from one point to another, loop back to his original point, and give a concluding point to justify his original point.
@IndianaJakeisanIdiot
@IndianaJakeisanIdiot 10 месяцев назад
Freedo might be the least concise person I've ever seen, bro can make one point and repeat it in 20 different ways.
@Bismarck9871
@Bismarck9871 10 месяцев назад
i like freedo videos but god on podcast i am like ughhhh is he really still going on? lmao i wanna hear the others too lol
@jaedengarcia8249
@jaedengarcia8249 10 месяцев назад
So I think on the topic of comp that the new system they showed is way better. While I think the sentiment behind Fareeha's idea of bounties or anything else has good intentions but it is misguided. Comp is for competitive people, not casuals, and the main focus behind playing comp should be to win. You can have fun in comp but comp isn't made to be fun, its there to test your skills and see how you have improved as a player. You don't play comp to fall in love with the game, you play it because you already love the game and want to invest your time to learn and improve. The problem with playing on a team that gets disbanded after every match is that you don't have the same respect for your teammates as you do with people you might play games with in real life. I play soccer and I can be happy with losing a match because I know and respect my teammates despite them and/or myself making a misplay that would cause us to lose. Simply put, you're never going to be happy losing online games because the people that you are matched with aren't "people" in your mind, they are just some bot on the internet that you can blame for your loss. If they want people to be less anxious and less upset about losses they need to emphasize grouping and comradary between teammates and allowing a wider range of grouping is a good start.
@RK9.
@RK9. 10 месяцев назад
A lot of speaking on behalf of other people going on here while being completely wrong lmaoooooo
@jaedengarcia8249
@jaedengarcia8249 10 месяцев назад
@RK9. It's cool if you don't feel like that but that's just what I think and I know I'm not the only one. Obviously I can't speak for everyone but if you think I'm wrong somewhere maybe it would be better to point out where you disagree instead of saying I'm wrong in a fairly rude way. This is literally a perfect example of why people don't respect others on the internet.
@bwill1268
@bwill1268 10 месяцев назад
@@jaedengarcia8249you think other people lack empathy for other players. I don’t get mad when I loose games, I just look at what I can do better. I look at the replays to see the context of what went wrong in the loss, it is what it is. I don’t feel the need to talk shit to or blame anyone. If a simple mistake can ruin the whole game from one person were we really winning in the first place?
@jaedengarcia8249
@jaedengarcia8249 10 месяцев назад
@bwill1268 lack of empathy isn't the only reason players might get mad about a loss but it is undoubtedly a cause for it. Overwatch is a complex enough game that a mistake isn't going to ruin a game but it could easily lose a game (think last fight situations or fight that should have won a point and allowed your team to keep fighting or progressing). You don't have to be getting crushed to lose, and generally you ought to be having fairly even matches in ranked where any mistake or misplay can tip the balance. If you don't talk trash or flame that's great because you are mature enough to reflect on your own contributions to a win or loss and learn to improve from that. But people can become hypercritical of their teammates errors online if they think I caused them to lose a fight they needed to win. When you know and respect a player you don't really flame them like you see people do online. Banter takes the place of flaming when players have actual relationships with eachother.
@liathedoll
@liathedoll 10 месяцев назад
Love seeing the cat lady himself, Emongg, in the podcast 💪 Absolutely love this man. I also agree with Flats that Mauga would have fit way better at 6v6 with someone like Dva or Zarya bc he can’t mitigate at all so he melts SO easily.
@laxcty7-94
@laxcty7-94 10 месяцев назад
Freedo talks way too much...holy shieeeet
@AarPlays
@AarPlays 10 месяцев назад
Svb, thanks for bringing everyone together not just for us, but also for the devs. You guys are the voice of the community and the devs respect your opinions on the podcast
@scalamasta
@scalamasta 10 месяцев назад
Yes!
@LOLBurger13
@LOLBurger13 10 месяцев назад
I swear I saw the demons that bobby had put onto aaron leave his body every time he came on stage during the overwatch presentations
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 месяцев назад
Ohhhhhhhhhh I thought that monkey was Winton
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 месяцев назад
Btw 12:20
@Skele_Rat
@Skele_Rat 10 месяцев назад
I'm less than 4 months into the game and already this deep into the meta thanks for all these creators and their good insights here and on the respective channels they have ❤
@galev3955
@galev3955 10 месяцев назад
Welcome to the OW community :) Glad to see that us grumpy old timers didn't scare everyone away ^^
@Skele_Rat
@Skele_Rat 10 месяцев назад
@@galev3955 Thank you, it's a very nice game, I came from the CoD community so I'm feeling in a palce full of gentlemen xD
@Darrakkii
@Darrakkii 10 месяцев назад
check out spilo
@steam_station
@steam_station 10 месяцев назад
I think when it comes to making losing in Ranked feel better, I feel like this new system, will actually do a better job at alleviating that anxiety / pressure. All due to the more in depth feedback and information you'll get after every match. I'd love for them to expand it even further, to performance feedback from the games, because its so much more rewarding and understandable, when you're told why you lost / how you lost, or why you've sunk so low in SR. I look at games like LOL (In which I have only just started playing, like literally not even a week into playing) and it gives feedback / advice on what items to buy / abilities to unlock and upgrade first, and it shows after games, where and when one team was winning vs when it started losing, and how good / bad someones CS was in that game, and then obviously the stats themselves, and I think OW could do something very similar to this, and it would make it very clear whether that game was just lost from the start cause your teammates were just dogshit, or if you were the issue and how you could of been better. MORE INFORMATION IS GOOD, GIVE US MORE.
@homelessmexican410
@homelessmexican410 10 месяцев назад
The difference between LOL stats giving you an understanding of how your teammates are performing vs. Overwatch stats which can be misleading and arguably pointless is definitely something that needs to be addressed it just feeds toxicity and bad behaviors
@darksplash873
@darksplash873 10 месяцев назад
I love listening to fareeha talk, she sounds so passionate and you can really hear her smile. It’s amazing.
@skiiyz6777
@skiiyz6777 10 месяцев назад
Great podcast, but Freedo talks for so long on his points 😭
@jackattackstopmotion3244
@jackattackstopmotion3244 10 месяцев назад
As an apex and overwatch player with over 2,000 apex hours and an overwatch player with over 1,500 hours I think I have some what of a unique point of view, personally I think content wise overwatch players have it better. I think the constant new maps hero’s and battle passes provide players with more consistent ways to play the game differently. Here is a list of pros that overwatch 2 has 60 day vs 100 day seasons: New maps way more often: new hero’s 80 days sooner than apex: More meta changes, apex has meta changes about every 45 days which is including new legends, the meta changes aren’t just less often but there always less too, for example the new season had a change to one gun and they just nerfed it by one damage per bullet, they nerfed 2 characters and buffed one ever so slightly if asked a main of that character what did they changed I doubt the could answer. so 3 legends changed for an update that took 90 days. Skins, now this goes to apex, but I don’t think it’s actually good because most events have no LTM but instead is 160 dollars worth of skins with no new way to play the game so apex actually spends to much time on skins and not actually playable content. Battle pass this I think apex also wins but both suck: Esports, now at the moment I don’t need to tell you which one is better but I will say algs can be very difficult to watch sometimes because there are 20 teams instead of 2: Ranked, now both have similar past were they had a good system then changed it for no reason but apex’s is just so much worse by far, overwatch also has a bright future with it too and apex doesn’t so if you’re someone who is high ranks for both games it’s no question that overwatch is currently better and is better in the future: Not to mention you also are still getting some pve and apex ain’t getting shit. So In conclusion I think overwatch 2 has better content than apex, also just one more reason why apex meta changes suck, horizon a character released in season 7 was the best legend in the game from season 7 to season 18 remember 90 to 100 day seasons so there was roughly 1,000 days of being the top meta pick, that’s so stupid for so many different reasons and I’m literally a horizon main. also I remember I think It was an Aaron dev update were he said there’s going to be as many hero changes as last season and flats said that’s not that much even though It was about 10 to 12 hero changes which is as many as apex’s last three’s combined
@mito._
@mito._ 10 месяцев назад
See. Whenever I hear things like, "... and it felt like they were genuinely listening," @13:19, that's when I know we can't see the forest for the trees. It's corporate lingo 101. Public relations. Anything to create a sense of endearment or emotional attachment towards a corporation that values not at all what you think, and instead values your willingness to open your wallets indefinitely into the future.
@EnterpriseFilms7
@EnterpriseFilms7 10 месяцев назад
You’re going to be alone in your observation. The members on this podcast and the playerbase as well are far too gone to notice what you’re talking about. The corporate lingo is how they think and talk.
@KingOfNebbishes
@KingOfNebbishes 10 месяцев назад
Worst part about it is, it's "they're genuinely listening" to the same people who had a direct, invite-only channel to the developers via Discord for YEARS. Same old story, same old song and dance from the regime and their unpaid volunteers.
@galev3955
@galev3955 10 месяцев назад
Hm, good points on the e-sports. As a gamer who was never into watching actual sports, I was mildly interested in the concept of e-sports and when I started playing OW I thought maybe it is something I can get into it. But it was so weird and obscure and so ... American. I hope they move to a more global setup so we can all have local/regional teams to root for and not just 5 teams named after US cities or whatever. It would be nice to get excited about something like that.
@danmac_au
@danmac_au 10 месяцев назад
The Windows USB sounds made me check all of my open apps for a notification that wasn't there. I'm on Linux and it still triggered me
@MasterSergeantMartin
@MasterSergeantMartin 10 месяцев назад
Was waiting to see if there was going to be one about the Blizzcon podcast discussion. Going to be great watch!
@shvrberi
@shvrberi 10 месяцев назад
Now that blizz is being more transparent, any chance our content creators are going to stop lying and saying they don’t know anything? Y’all are repeatedly admitting that the devs talked to you and you told *us* that did not happen. Do what Freedo does. If you know something and you can’t say it, don’t say anything. When you feign innocence you are lying and we know it.
@askers_
@askers_ 10 месяцев назад
They're under NDA relax
@shvrberi
@shvrberi 10 месяцев назад
I didn’t say I want them to tell us stuff. I said stop pretending you don’t know anything.
@Aussiehalotiger41
@Aussiehalotiger41 10 месяцев назад
Gotta admit them releasing manga early for that window made my friend re-download the game and get excited about the new changes coming in the coming season and even the ranked changes ,so it was also a great hype builder
@therealzahyra
@therealzahyra 10 месяцев назад
Mauga*
@rocki8854
@rocki8854 10 месяцев назад
They should have an option to elect to join wide queue as a solo player. I want to play in that type of game regardless lol
@petraSwZ
@petraSwZ 10 месяцев назад
about the eSports side of things I was really hopeful after the league was dead but then the flash ops thing came out and SA and OCE are once again not only neglected but actually Im pretty sure can't even play in other regions that are allowed to compete and now I'm super disappointed and mad again. I'll focus on SA here bc that's my region but you don't have to look for obscure games to find one we have success on. and even the ones that we maybe are shit internationally, our local tournaments are still loved and hyped. the love for games is only growing here, people love local orgs like it's a football team but if blizzard doesn't do the investment here, or worse keep making it impossible for us to play professionally they're not getting any of it on the pro scene and the game will just stay dead for the casuals. we wanna play and love overwatch and we wanna get better and be competitive and root for our countries but so far the biggest thing in the way has been blizzard themselves. all of this to say I would love if there was a podcast about the future os ow eSports that maybe you could bring players from SA and OCE to talk about it. we always been vocal and I'm sure we would love to have the visibility this podcast offers.
@drako9794
@drako9794 10 месяцев назад
As a dps player I can’t wait to play venture, the underground mechanic and their gun looks sick!
@askers_
@askers_ 10 месяцев назад
Freedo isn't as smart as he thinks he is
@zexulia
@zexulia 10 месяцев назад
Them doing good changes to competitive finally is not going to save the game. As long as their balance team is the way it is, the game won't be fun to play enough to care about competitive.
@pippo17173
@pippo17173 10 месяцев назад
And the grouping on rank will make it 100% worst when its groups who know how to abuse the balance meta.
@tropicata
@tropicata 10 месяцев назад
I would really like to see the hero release cadence return to the way it was in early Overwatch. If anyone remembers, OW1 actually got a new hero every 3 months (4 heroes per year), whereas now it's every 4 months (3 per year). That extra month wait is pretty noticeable. If they can figure out a way to shorten that gap and have it make sense with the seasonal model, it'd be huge for maintaining stronger momentum/excitment for the game.
@Hyde472
@Hyde472 10 месяцев назад
Easy. Stop putting heroes in battlepasses and then have a mini event on each of their releases. You'll get both battlepasses as well as a new mini event each time a character is released. Stack on top of that collaboration events, and the normal rotation of events, and the game will have stuff going on all the time.
@strikeiksp6629
@strikeiksp6629 10 месяцев назад
If we ever need to do map pools I'd like to see them change weekly, it would make every week feel fresh
@thesquirtlesquad8446
@thesquirtlesquad8446 10 месяцев назад
Flats nailed it, think about the avg legendary skin cost of like 15 bucks. With the bundle each skin is $10. Very high value in comparison to all of the previous bundles
@Oguh608
@Oguh608 10 месяцев назад
Overwatch has really good skins but the prices of skins and bundles are obviously too pricey. Especially when you only see your gun! Except for Rein and Brig ofcourse.
@Deprece
@Deprece 10 месяцев назад
2:22:20 This will probably show my age but when Freedo said “Momentum” it hit me like a ton of bricks EXACTLY what this game mode is. It’s “War” from Call of Duty World at War and, in Call of Duty Advanced Warfare, it was called “Momentum.”. It was a fan favorite mode back then
@brian21282
@brian21282 10 месяцев назад
Listens: We back Plays: No way this Moira is my Rank
@BeforeThisNovember
@BeforeThisNovember 10 месяцев назад
5:23 I legit went 4-1 (4 in a row!) and deranked from Gold 1 to Gold 5.. Oh and I was one of the top performers in at least 2 of them, getting highest dmg and elims and POTG.
@stottpie
@stottpie 10 месяцев назад
Could someone please make an edit that removes Flats?
@blub.lubber5171
@blub.lubber5171 10 месяцев назад
I love all of these people but I agree very much with Freedo. I’m an RPG guy that was drawn in by overwatch but it doesn’t have that same appeal anymore
@cain035
@cain035 10 месяцев назад
lmao OW will NOT be able to get more devs in with such little pay and forcing ppl to move to the INSANELY expensive Irvine. Simply look up an apartment there, hell, even a studio, and look at what blizzard/ow pays. Good luck getting ppl to want to join
@wayfer7243
@wayfer7243 10 месяцев назад
SVB carrying OW content
@jasonmension3979
@jasonmension3979 10 месяцев назад
Hot take but I think it should just he escort and hybrid. Ow doesnt work in any point objective gamemodes first off but even if you like thode gamemodes, theres only so much you can do with point objective modes realistically, like flash point is control with extra steps and 2cp is control but the rules are slightly different, and so on, even push is a low grade version of escort. And the reason escort works so well is because escort adds structure, it's a great way to add structure to a game and ow by it's very nature is a chaotic game because of its fast pace movement and wild amount of wacky abilities so its really benefits from escort, while control just looks like a cluster fk on the best of days, and flash point is that with more walking. Plus is it really the structure of the gamemode were playing that is stale or the maps available to us in what is objectively the most popular gamemode? I dont have statistics for that but I do know in paladins (a very very similar game) you can choose what gamemode you wanna play and seige is bascially there escort and if you solo queue for their version of control it takes so long while seige is so fast and if you queue for all gamemode you're like 75% likely to get seige and I feel if ow separated their gamemode queues they would have a very similar result where most people are checking off escort and maybe hybrid to queue for so if they just hard focused escort maps and made some more unique like blizzard world and kings row, then the game would feel 100x better but instead we just keep getting control points when me and almost everyone I know who plays ow whicu is alot as I've played this game for 7 years now, hates control or at least like escort more, ive never heard someone say control or 2cp is their fav gamemode because its almost always escort so for the love of god stop trying to recreate the dam wheel and just give us escort maps already.
@laughingnotlooking
@laughingnotlooking 10 месяцев назад
If the new rank system isn't coming until season 9. The game is going to be on life support yet again for season 8. Actually we are in limbo as we speak, but they are going to extend it another 2 months? Hopefully they pull another big surprise and drop the new system mid season 8 or earlier.
@cjk2590
@cjk2590 10 месяцев назад
Overwatch 2's rocky start felt like an abusive relationship. BlizzCon hints at change; let's hope it's genuine and not just a temporary fix.
@realprotomike
@realprotomike 10 месяцев назад
I think the focus shift to direct money from the game instead of earning money from lisensing deals hurt the value of the ip. People aren't looking for new Overwatch merch outside of the game as much as they were before. The amount of money they were making away outside the game can't be as much as it used to be sadly.
@kenerb654
@kenerb654 10 месяцев назад
Ight so can someone fill us in on the tea Fareeha teased like hell and won’t drop about OWWC? like aren’t we here to talk about it so the community understands and we hold them to changes in the future? can’t talk about what we don’t know.
@Srsbzns_5150
@Srsbzns_5150 10 месяцев назад
I promise you someone will find a way to scan that cup's barcode to find out where it's from 🤣
@dyla2545
@dyla2545 10 месяцев назад
I a recently returned player I didn’t understand that part that was referenced when talking about “quick play spawn wave”
@os3688
@os3688 10 месяцев назад
Noticed a pattern of my problems and they’re all related to alcohol. Thank god for allowing me to see this side of the story…
@tyrantla7120
@tyrantla7120 10 месяцев назад
This debate needs Samito.
@77JAXX
@77JAXX 10 месяцев назад
This guy freedo always has to kidnap the conversation and go off into the most boring way of talking.
@Spannondorf
@Spannondorf 10 месяцев назад
Always love watching these podcasts. The future of Overwatch 2 is looking great to me, Venture looks great, and Mauga is everything I hoped for. (BTW it's just pronounced like Maui from Moana, only with a ga instead of a ee)
@thesquirtlesquad8446
@thesquirtlesquad8446 10 месяцев назад
Fantastic group of debaters, loved the deep conversation.
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