The Great QB Debate - Geno vs. the Field

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The QB "froth" is real. JJ top 12, Penix still there when the Seahawks pick?
How about the bigger question: Should we even select a QB this year OR continue to build around Geno?
We talk about it and more on this episode of the Sea Hawkers Podcast.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction - Discussing the QB Performances at the Combine
3:13 - Initial Impressions of JJ McCarthy
5:21 - High Expectations for McCarthy
8:19 - Debating if Seahawks Should Pick a QB in the Draft
10:49 - The Challenge of Evaluating College Offenses vs NFL
12:12 - Michael Penix's Performance and the Importance of Arm Talent
13:20 - Devin Leary’s Potential
15:39 - Evaluating the Combine Process for Quarterbacks
19:11 - Sam Hartman's Performance at the Combine
20:18 - Could the Seahawks take Michael Penix in the 2024 Draft?
27:00 - Dangers of Prioritizing Quarterback Over Offensive Line
30:07 - Emphasizing Need for Linebacker and Defensive Line
38:07 - The Downfall of the San Francisco 49ers: A Prediction
45:22 - Reflecting on Past Draft Decisions and Their Outcomes

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30 июл 2024

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@josh_da_hooman 4 месяца назад

I wouldn’t mind getting JJ McCarthy if that’s who John and MM want. Especially if we address Guard and MLB in FA.

@randyhorner592 4 месяца назад

I’m cool not taking a QB, but I won’t be upset if we do.

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

Depends how high for me. Top RT / RG or a QB who's not playing. For me (CB) I'd be upset if that's the case.

@blueandgreenzone 4 месяца назад

Best scenario would be trade back to mid to late 20s like 27 and get a second and land bo nix or penix I kinda like bo nix but this may be first time in history we see 5 qbs in 1st rd if not I like Jordan Travis like 4th rd he'll probably go in 3rd though

@blueandgreenzone 4 месяца назад

@@SeaHawkersPodcast look at jordan Travis tape he's a good development qb for 2 3 yrs I can't wait to see if John finds a qb he likes that he can get in this draft 1 if he dont the qbs he wanted were gone or 2 he gets couple extra draft picks and grabs like penix or bo to develop for 2 or 3 years just depends where we get one at if he trades back and drafts one in 1st rd I'll trust John or use the 2nd and nix is still there or penix would be good too if we don't draft one or use a 3rd or 4th to get one then it'll be exciting to see who we get in 1st rd like Byron Murphy or laiatu latu or Jared verse or power Johnson so exciting but let's say we get a 2nd rd pick and trade late in 1st there won't be alot left worth that 1st rd pick so I would be ok getting qb there and use a 2nd on like Ruke Orhorhoro or Kris Jenkins or like a Zach zinter guard that would be really good too and I really hope we get DT Braden fiske that dude is explosive and quick and splits gaps it takes 2 people to push him which opens linebackers

@blueandgreenzone 4 месяца назад

Sick of hearing all this geno bull but all geno haters say he sucks nothing backing it up lmao

@calebflynn9636 4 месяца назад

Bo nix is probably the only one that will be available

@rjtaylor271 4 месяца назад

Penix is a mid to high second round pick. The fan base is being gaslight into thinking he should be picked as high as 16. I trust in John not to fall for any of this crap.

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

And he still could be gone by 16!

@Mr05Chuck 4 месяца назад

If Rattler last till the third I’m good rolling the dice on him.

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

And he just might!

@Stinkinbadgez 4 месяца назад

All the moves the Hawks have made say they are rebuilding. You do NOT rebuild with a 36 year old. Rebuild with a Young teachable stud.

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

You may be right. However, I don't equate all the moves to that. They got rid of the very obvious overpays. Safety not paid as SEA had envisioned. Uncle Will's contract was big given his Offensive production, Bellore??? If it was a true tear down I think you see what the Broncos are doing and say, yeah that's a complete rebuild now. FA will tell us a LOT.

@donnakager5453 4 месяца назад

What part of ten less throws for a touchdown in 2023 than in 2022 do you not understand? I know. The Seahawks might invite you to a team party where you can kiss Geno’s (not Super Bowl) ring.

@Gfunk48 4 месяца назад

are you ok?

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

Singling out TD throws is not a great argument. High variance year over year. He missed time + the offensive line was worse and a bottom 5 unit in key areas. This was not a flowing offense last year. Geno's not free of criticism. Did you watch the games and think it was mainly on Geno? I didn't.

@dezzdinn 4 месяца назад

I do see some of the issues he had are ones that he avoided more last year. Conversely the same issues Baker improved on. The Com-D could be the coach that moved on. Geno is a very talented dude I hope we stick with, doesn’t mean I’ll cry if we take a QB early but I’d love a trade back and oodles of linemen

@rjtaylor271 4 месяца назад

Would we even be talking about penix if grubb wasn’t our OC?

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

Probably. Still UW success, still a legit arm, still nearly 50% of the fan base thinking Geno is a bottom 1/2 of the league QB.

@Sedaisan 4 месяца назад

JJ will be the 3rd or 4th QB taken. There is no way he is there at 16. we would have to go up and get him.

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

I think he's long gone by 16 too. We'll see but I think you're right.

@ilonakiforishin1273 2 месяца назад

Go Hawks🙂💙💚

@SeaHawkersPodcast 2 месяца назад

Always!!!

@ryanball2754 4 месяца назад

Go Hawks.

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

Go Hawks, Ryan!

@eagletsnupper7876 4 месяца назад

JJ is a system QB

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

Is that bad? If so, how bad? What's the ceiling of system QB?

@rangerssssssss 4 месяца назад

Geno under contract lock isn't that's all it is so stop the bs😂

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

Sure, but we barely talked about Lock. Question would you rather have: Geno+Loco Geno+First Round QB Geno+3rd or 4th Round QB Weighing what you might get draft wise in each scenario.

@donnakager5453 4 месяца назад

Cardinals game. First downs: Seahawks 18, Cardinals 24 Total yards. Seahawks 327, Cardinals 466. Last play of the game Prater misses a 43 yard field goal in a domed stadium. He makes that field goal and your talking eight and eight. This was one of the nails in the coffin for Caroll. Did the Cardinal QB out perform the Seahawks QB in that game? Never mind, you’ll just think of some other excuse for Geno.

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

Was Geno playing defense that game and we missed it??? Teams RAN the ball down our throats down the stretch. You failed to mention James Conner ran for 150 yards and the Cards had the ball around 37 mins to SEA 23 mins!

@donnakager5453 4 месяца назад

You were a field goal away from making the playoffs? You were a field goal away from losing to the Cardinals. You know, the team that ended up last in the division. The Cardinals provided your red colored glasses.

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

OK, most fringe teams are literally a play or so away from playoffs or not. Including SEA. If Myers makes the kick vs the Rams in a game the team absolutely handed away, then the Seahawks indeed would have made the playoffs. Not sure what the dislike is on that one. It's the NFL, most games are tight.

@bmrepass 4 месяца назад

Don't overthink this: Grab Penix at 16. It's a fun discussion, though😊

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

Surely is. So legit you'd rather have Penixn over Fautanu or Fuaga if he's there?

@donnakager5453 4 месяца назад

Adam you continue to destroy your creditability. There is not one statistic that proves that Geno is a top ten QB. Why do you keep repeating things that are not true.

@rjtaylor271 4 месяца назад

Haters gonna hate

@blueandgreenzone 4 месяца назад

Lmao haters all day ok 1st geno was top ten in every category in 2022 and then top 15 in every category in 2023 with both tackles out over half the season withonly 1 starting olineman almost all season with missing 2 games and with the highest pressure rate and top 3 most sacked qb in the league cmon you all just hate if you give geno a top 15 oline he'll be a too 6 qb all year and the nail in the coffin is the worst defense all year 2 years straight without geno we wouldn't made playoffs in 2022 or been any where close in 2023 now pro e me wrong

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

All of this! Adam

@MetalDragon5745 4 месяца назад

JJ is the most overrated QB in this draft. I've watched him play he's not a QB that can carry an offense if you think that well i'm sorry but i see no evidence to back that up.

@SeaHawkersPodcast 4 месяца назад

He seems to be splitting folks into pretty specific camps. I think his 3rd down conversion % is at least an indicator that he can ball. We'll see, right? I think he can play, but I thought Zach Wilson could play too. This is CB btw. Who is your favorite in the group?