They were prestigious mathematicians and you had to be an elite to be able to join. They wanted a continuous math, and they came up with many important definitions. They unified math. They were aggressive literally! In one of their meetings seen by a mathematician not in the group the fights were so violent that one person broke a table over a definition !
to be fair modern calculus and math books are so undated, i mean in the logic they are on point, but the way it presents its is so old and weird. you have to be a math genius or very talented to understand and learn just from a raw math and calculus book. We for sure would use a better approch for ANYONE that want to learn math from scrach
@@v44n7 the school system should change like if someone wants to be in a specific job he/she doesn’t need a specific subject or most of the subject like art to be in a specific engineer for example industrial engineer u need geometry not how to draw an object
It’s so amazing to imagine just how intelligent these students were. They were clearly not just your everyday people, but geniuses in their own ways. Also, I love how this indirectly tells us, that even though we as individuals may not be comparable to legends like Einstein, Pythagoras or Newton, but in groups, we’re capable of achieving amazing achievements.
Most maths students are very intelligent and there was a lot undiscovered or not formalized at the time. There are many more maths geniuses among us today but the problems have become more difficult.
@@shiningdahlia Well you have to keep in mind that for people who lived at the time, Bourbaki was very much a "real" person. So yeah, including him in references is not really that much of an issue
"Hey, lets publish our work under a pseudonym. Which one do you think people will take seriously?" "Russian. People only trust wisdom and knowledge when they come from far away. Can't ever grow that stuff locally it seems."
That and lots of mathematicians came from the Soviet Union. The coolest kids at most schools at that time in the Soviet Union were kids who were good at math and physics. In the western world, they are considered weird and kind of shameful to be like that.
Because for a lot of mathematicians, it isn’t about being recognized. It’s about the betterment of mathematics. Great example of this is Grigori Perelman who proved Poincaré conjecture but turned down the award.
Math is the father of science and language. Man counted before he organized his language (discovered numbers). Without his father Math, Science cannot stand. Math stands without science. In fact the biggest fan of Math is his son Science that he graciously lent the power to toddler off into the sunset
When a document is quoted in order to give credit you must cite the authors and put them in your References or Bibliography. When a document has many authors you only mention some of them and then you put "et al." which means "and others". Et al. Appears in many citations, that's the joke.
Pranks back then : let's create a character and write groundbreaking math in his name,hehe. Pranks nowadays : so I burnt my friends home and bought him a new one.
Yeah, the thing with Bourbaki is that all the members are below a certain age and are all anonymous until one member is at least old enough, and so, out of the group. Then Idk what the specifics are, but iirc it's the member's decision to tell if they were a member or not, but usually former members we know of are old when they're still alive.
I can just imagine all the Geniuses who died in the world wars and how the world might be totally different if at least a few mozarts and einsteins lived. May they rest in peace.
Dont really know man. While it did alot of damage, it also allow the society to grow. Without world war I and II. We may not have the Unite Nation either. Small country might still be used by big nation and big nation might still have minor conflict over and over. And tbh, the world war is such a big war that everyone just so done with it and want peace. That period of peace allow technology and science to grow exponentially. The tech we have today is sth people from 100years ago could never imagine of. While these great mind die, their legacy live on. These group of mathematicians is collecting their legacy and set a universal standard. That mean, their work didn't go to waste. They didnt live on to do more math discovery, but our today mathematician are just as capable.
I didn't think about that, everytime I put et al. for the papers I had written, I always feel bad for all the other names that also deserved recognition.
He's got no friends close but those who know him most know , he goes by nico he told me I am copy and when I heard he'd mocked me THAT ALMOST STOPPED ME
"He'll always try to stop me, that Nicholas Bourbaki He's got no friends close but those who know him most know He goes by Nico, he told me I'm a copy" ~Morph - Twenty One Pilots
@@Gadget-Walkmen there is nothing more pure than math. I cant prove that now but its true. Btw the thing we are learning in schools is not math. Believe me.
I really like the fact that the guy working on commutative groups and the guy working on Z-modules couldn’t understand each other despite these two objects being the same. If that was an intentional touch, Kudos!
@@evagraciela225 Thanks for the surprising prompt reply! I guess Nico and the Niners are all the same here. They're the ones controlling all of math, eh?
EAST IS UP! I'm fearless when I hear this on the low, EAST IS UP! I'm careless when I wear my rebel clothes, EAST IS UP! when bishops come together they will know that: Dema don't control us!
Do you seriously think math was created, organized and developed without effort? Hundreds of generations were needed to even conceptualize the field of mathematics... School assumes you assume that everything took lots of work to be done.
Because these were scholars studying advanced mathematics, why would school waste any time telling you their story when they need to teach kids basic maths lmao
In many fields when people become over ambitious, this is a solution they have. As for an imaginary personality you can build story and a total new life and the lifestyle. People who follow a person is not always for the work they do.. It's the person as whole... Many of the stories and personalities can be unreal.
He'll always try to stop me, that Nicholas Bourbaki He's got no friends close but those who know him most know He goes by Nico, he told me I'm a copy When I'd hear him mock me that's almost stopped me
अद्भुत ! सभी पेरेंट्स को देखना चाहिए यह वीडियो और अपने बच्चों से इस बारे मैं बात करनी चाहिए। मैथ क्यूरोसिटी के बहुत जगह है घर पर होने वाली बातचीत मैं Homeschoolers मैं Math Curiosity पैदा करने के लिए हम भी प्राइमरी के बच्चों के साथ काम और कोशिशें कर रहे हैं
He'll always try to stop me, that Nicholas Bourbaki He's got no friends close but those who know him most know He goes by Nico, he told me I'm a copy When I'd hear him mock me that's almost stopped me Well we're surrounded and we're hounded There's no above or a secret door What are we here for? If not to run straight through all our tormentors? But until that time I'll try and sing this
A mark could also serve lots of different purposes like how they would split the bones to use for sth else. And even if they were resembling some sort of number or count, counting some amount of a good or anything can not be described as maths.