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Coal is by far the dirtiest fossil fuel. But could it have a shot at redemption... through geothermal energy?
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Is coal mining good, actually? Yes! After you've stopped taking the coal out of the ground at least. Old coal mines could be a key part of the race to net zero in countries with a heritage of coal, being used to provide low carbon energy - geothermal district heating. This video is about how to reduce emissions from heating, using the UK net zero target as a specific example. Geothermal energy, and in particular geothermal heating, can provide low carbon energy to district heating networks. If you like videos from Soup Emporium you will love this video!
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@theoneandonlysoupemporium Месяц назад

The box! The BOX!

@Noreen_Ni_Riain Месяц назад

Love your work, soup! I've rewatched your latest simpsons deepdive two times already 😁

@TheFalseShepphard Месяц назад

I loved it when He said "The Box!" and boxed everyone up!

@yeetyeet7070 Месяц назад

"electrizidy"

@af8828 Месяц назад

Whenever I see nonsense about the "cost" of clean energy, I always remind myself the magnitude at which dirty energy is subsidized.

@prosandcons-fl2cc Месяц назад

FR. think about how much stuff people would stop using or buying if the subsidies were gone

@cherriberri8373 Месяц назад

It's seriously maddening the amount of denial of OBVIOUS reasons these people do. I genuinely cannot imagine being that deluded unless I never thought logically about the topic and never even once Googled about it

@ericlotze7724 Месяц назад

@@prosandcons-fl2ccGranted it gets real messy, especially some farm subsidies. They essentially hot glue and zip tie the mess that is Modern Capitalism into something that can *kind of* work. The Ideal solution would be switching to some alternative system that thrives off of Abundance, rather than one that thrives off artificial scarcity and such, but WAY easier said than done. In the mean time getting rid of the ones that only help the industrialists/lobbying groups, and tuning them to match the needs of people can probably be done.

@vincentgrinn2665 Месяц назад

7 trillion dollars per year fossil fuel industry also makes 4 trillion dollars per year in profit, interesting

@iivin4233 Месяц назад

Honestly, it's one of those facts that I catch myself doubting because it's so obvious that I feel if most people haven't noticed or are unconvinced by it I must be wrong somehow. Heating subsidies are right there on our bills. They're advertised on the radio. I literally sign off on my tenant's heating assistance for the eldery. Around here, that means the assisted are getting subsidized gas.

@illuminoeye_gaming Месяц назад

"its all heating water to spin a turbine?" "always has been."

@bodavidson2804 Месяц назад

Turbines, always with the turbines

@InfernosReaper Месяц назад

The sad thing is that's the best way to do it apparently, because solar and wind kinda blow

@RAFMnBgaming Месяц назад

@@InfernosReaper wind blows, the sun radiates.

@InfernosReaper Месяц назад

@@RAFMnBgaming and both of them suck

@RAFMnBgaming Месяц назад

@@InfernosReaper nah that's vacuum energy

@amanofnoreputation2164 Месяц назад

"District heating . . ." Tories: "COMMUNISM DETECTED"

@trytwicelikemice3190 Месяц назад

Are any Tories really saying that? Looks like the govt is actually trying a bit in this case... I can't imagine ever voting Tory in my life, but let's not drive division if it doesn't exist.

@Pystro Месяц назад

US Republicans _and_ US Democrats: "COMMUNISM DETECTED"

@05degrees Месяц назад

TL;DR It can be done wrong; you also can _and need_ to do it right. Honestly district heating can lead to suboptimal results. I live in Russia and I have such a heating which isn’t in any way tweakable so I need to open windows in the winter and especially at the end of spring, it gets so unbearable and I ended up even needing a skin cream for my hands. I’m sure it _can_ be done okay, with people being able to change their personal heat output and also pay less when they do so, but I see it can also be done in a way which is hard to remake into such a thing. A pain. So I see why some people can get reluctant aside from silly communism horror storries (I mean Russia is a kind of hell to be in, in many small details and many large details too, but right now and for like two decades it’s not due to communism at all).

@szaszm_ Месяц назад

I guess it was pushed in communist countries, we also have a district heating network in Budapest, Hungary (formerly eastern bloc USSR puppet state, nowadays Putin's puppet state). But so does Vienna, Austria, which was never forced into communism, and Denmark. I guess it just makes sense. In other words, communism "causes" district heating, but district heating "doesn't cause" communism.

@jimthain8777 Месяц назад

The only people who respond to things that way are the extreme conservatives. Extremists of all types are characterized by very narrow minds.

@evertime123 Месяц назад

New coal meta just dropped

@4444fores Месяц назад

I live in a town that was built by coal mines. There is a lake across from my house that has a drain pipe supposedly connected to one of the shafts. The water that comes out of it is like bathtub water, and no matter how far the temperature drops that part of the lake does not freeze. One day I hope my town would consider installing district heating from the mines. I'm sure it will bring a lot of pride to families who have parents and grandparents that worked in the pit. knowing that they're still heating our homes today. Update : I did some digging ( no pun intended) and found out that some buildings are actually using this system already. Our sports center and our assisted living facility is heated from our mines! I don't know why this isn't common knowledge.

@Respectable_Username Месяц назад

Maybe _you_ could be the one to bring it up with your local mayor/council! Somebody's got to be the first one, so why not chuck them an email with the suggestion? It can't hurt to try, and might kickstart something amazing ❤

@joecummings1260 Месяц назад

Mine drainage usually isn't a good thing. We have a mine dewatering tunnel built here in the 1800's called The Jeddo Tunnel. It's more or less an environmental nightmare although it's been going on for like 150 years and we are used to it. Not to mention we are above it, so it's more of a problem for those who live downstream lol

@holgernarrog Месяц назад

The heat conductivity of the soil is very, very low. After some years the water will become cooler. Why not skipping the green woke nonsense and use gas, oil or coal?

@lostbutfreesoul Месяц назад

That Pride Factor is what you sell it with. Don't go with how much can be saved or the likes, as much as we think people in government should care about spending they really don't. They do care about their own reputations, and any politician that can claim to have 'brought back some mining jobs' will have an easier time for re-election. Thus, if you want a Politician to do anything, you have to convince them that people will be proud, and thus... vote for the person who brought that pride.

@lostbutfreesoul Месяц назад

@@holgernarrog Why did you not mention Nuclear? The three sources you name are all... greatly limited. If you are worried health concerns, don't look at Coal deaths per year.

@Zedprice Месяц назад

I think the thing to realize about these closed-loop geothermal systems is that their benefits are hard to quantify monetarily. They provide low-carbon power, but not intermittently like Wind and Solar. But unlike Wind and Solar, they have very small surface footprints, meaning we're not dedicating large tracts of land to wind and solar farms. More importantly, they provide baseload power without the need for uranium mining or the associated regulatory system required to keep a nuclear power plant safe (because the greatest threat of a nuclear power plant isn't the tech, it's human stupidity). So we have a tech that 1) provides consistent power; 2) is low-carbon; 3) requires no destructive mining, expensive maintenance, or disposal of dangerous fuels; and 4) takes up very little space (much smaller than a nuke plant and vastly smaller than wind and solar farms). So while yes, it's monetarily expensive, we are paying up front for the benefits.

@HedgeWitch-st3yy Месяц назад

And there's the challenge with everything that would actually make life better for the majority. We really need a massive investment in stuff like this as well as environmental restoration, regenerative agriculture, water management etc. for a payoff that's going to take years. Not something those in power seem keen on. I hope that changes soon because the price of recovering as the damage gets worse is only going to get higher.

@jeffbenton6183 Месяц назад

I think you nailed it. When discussing wind and solar, people often forget the land-use issue. (The intermittently issue is bad, but from an environmentalist perspective, land-use is also quite important) The point about human stupidity is correct, it would literally defy the laws of physics for any reactor operating today to go the way of Chernobyl since none follow its stupid design, nor does anyone follow their stupid operating principles. EDIT: I forgot to mention that Russia still uses 6 PowerPoint with RBMK reactors (the type used at Chernobyl) but they were heavily modified after the accident. Russia is the only country in the world which still operates RBMKs and the vast majority of their reactors are not RBMKs. Only nitpick - and I preface this by saying I can't compare the size of a geothermal plant to a nuclear one for the same amount of power - but nuclear plants can safely and cheaply be made *much* smaller than they currently are.

@trnstn1 Месяц назад

Implementation, allow tax credits or long amortized write downs over a long period, that will spur larger up front capital expense and a stable investment income.

@Ironschrubber Месяц назад

@@jeffbenton6183I’m sorry but there really isn’t a land use issue. Wind and Solar power both can be generated on land that is already used otherwise and can continue to be used like that. For example most solar panels are either in top of building, animal pens, highways or sometimes even on top of acres. There’s a similar thing with wind farms, because the turbines can’t be placed too close together anyways or they just wouldn’t really work, they are always placed on acres or on large stretches of off-shore farms. But all in all both kinds of farms barely make any land unusable

@MaticTheProto Месяц назад

Unfortunately it can cause earthquakes and makes farms unusable at times. Still a good option tho imo

@TehWulf Месяц назад

Man, this trusty Adobe Premiere Preset for 'look at this graph' gets me every time

@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Месяц назад

In other words... "Every time I do, it makes me laugh."

@JD-ub5ic Месяц назад

Engineer here, the problem is heat "quality", that is how hot the water actually is and the temperature differential with respect to what youre trying to heat. If the water isnt very hot, and if its very close to room temperature, then you need to pump a very large amount of it to get any significant amount of heating. District heating traditionally uses water near waters boiling temperature for this reason, it has to be hot to be efficient. Early systems used steam. A cursory look into some papers appears to me that these open loop coal mine GSHP's may not even outperform air to air heat pumps coefficient of performance, or at least uts close to it. If it isnt really more energy efficient in the first place, why not just use an air to air heat pump rather than faffing around in old coal mines? Especially considering this doesnt require huge changes to jnfrastructure (time and money).

@Ajan-X Месяц назад

"The extreme north" 🫤 Place is south of my entire country... 😅

@totallycarbon2106 Месяц назад

Oh don't worry it's a silly britishism - we argue about which bits of our country are north and south, as if we have never used a compass or a map

@columbus8myhw Месяц назад

My understanding is that Britain is divided into thirds: the South, the North, and Scotland

@gregoryturk1275 Месяц назад

Do you live in Svalbard???

@Tyork42 Месяц назад

@@columbus8myhwthere is also wales and the midlands

@dragosdragon7515 Месяц назад

@columbus8myhw 😅about right we allso have the Midlands around Birmingham Wales N.ierland Mann and the Devonshire Cornwall westerlands

@MTTT1234 Месяц назад

I think I read one of the problems with an open-system for geothermal is, that these waters often contain a hecking ton of salts and chemicals that can be quite dangerous to equipment, like pipes, pumps etc. So you would have to develop stuff that could withstand these conditions, so it would be better keep a system closed that does not draw in all these chemicals, yet drilling such tubes all the way 5 kilometers into the ground probably risks them being damaged be any kind of underground movement.

@hammerth1421 Месяц назад

Yep, you need to put that water back down there if you don't want the creek or wherever you dump it into to be absolutely lifeless due to the high salinity. The good news about that salinity is that one of the salts is lithium chloride, so it's currently being explored as a lithium mining method in combination with geothermal power in order to produce carbon-neutral battery-grade lithium.

@MTTT1234 Месяц назад

@@hammerth1421 Right, I heard they want to try out such a powerstation / factory setting in Germany in an attempt to get more lithium themselves. Let's just hope they don't drill too deep and cause any earthquakes like it happened in Switzerland a few years ago...or drill even deeper and wake up a Ballrog.

@maccy4829 Месяц назад

More Simpsons references, I only learn via Simpsons references

@danielgrudzinski9806 Месяц назад

theres better ways to do it

@YetAnotherGeorgeth Месяц назад

Same

@darksaurian6410 Месяц назад

there's other ways to learn?

@HerpilyDerp86 Месяц назад

Damn could have sworn the geo thermal guy was the spiffing brit at first

@theoneandonlysoupemporium Месяц назад

I wish I was spiffing Brit levels of cool

@antonycharnock2993 Месяц назад

I'm sure he'd find a way to cheese it.

@ellieban Месяц назад

“The extreme North” *points to what Scottish people call “The South”* 🤣

@isabellawinslow5803 Месяц назад

I audibly gasped when Soup came out because I really wasn’t expecting him, but y’all’s content scratches the same itch so it makes a ton of sense:)

@TheDilla Месяц назад

Love the video and all, but, as an American, I can't help but be amazed by the thought that 75%+ of local authorities' budgets are spent on elderly care. In the US, its rare to find a city that isn't spending more than 50% of its budget toward the police... This is nothing to say of climate change or moving towards renewable energies, but just a tangential observation that I hadn't thought about in a while.

@guystrong7218 Месяц назад

TBF local authorities are in charge of very little and police spending is not one of those. Its mainly bins and potholes.

@TheDilla Месяц назад

@@guystrong7218 I don't understand what you mean. The police budgets are determined by cities, no? If not, then what's setting the budgets? At least in California, as far as I'm aware, its up to individual cities to set their police spending.

@guystrong7218 Месяц назад

@@TheDilla Central government are the main source of funding for police - UK is much more centralised system than the US

@TheDilla Месяц назад

@@guystrong7218 oh okay that's interesting

@antonycharnock2993 Месяц назад

Police & Fire are paid for on a regional basis in the UK. It's paid for by your local council rates. Every year you get a statement saying how much has been spent on what. Sheffield City Council near me also has a district heating system which comes from the local waste incinerator.

@lleberghappy Месяц назад

Nice! In Sweden we've decarbonised heating since the 90s, heat pumps (ground and air) and district heating instead of local burning of fuel. Biggest source of heat in district heating is reused heat (heat that would otherwise be lost). There's a lot of low hanging fruit in district heating. :) But then, you should also watch how much energy housing uses.. Swedens energy use per square meter is one of the lowest in Europe even though we have a lot more winter here.

@ericlotze7724 Месяц назад

Installing a PILE of pipes can also be seen as a huge surge of Union Plumber Jobs… (Also mostly doing freshwater/heat transfer fluid, not sewage)

@GabrielPettier Месяц назад

This is excellent, engaging, informative, fact based *and* hopeful? That's not everyday, and it seems i really need to subscribe to that soup emporium guy as well, awesome collaboration.

@robertk4493 Месяц назад

Also, it gives you an excuse to force the circulation of the mine water, which can become acidic or hazardous if allowed to sit.

@jonfr Месяц назад

If you consider the cost of geothermal heat as % of GDP of a nation. You are going to find that the cost is really, really low. But something ,something rich people and big coal companies and so on.

@tonydagostino6158 Месяц назад

In the US the areas with high geothermal potential are already experiencing severe problems with water availability. Fracking, for whatever reason, uses a lot of water. So water availability for drilling and circulation and steam production is going to be a big hurdle to overcome

@eric2500 Месяц назад

Water that is devoted to geothermal could be reused, at least in a closed system if I understood this correctly, ... ( my friends have a closed system with the special fluid which is of course reused again and again) unlike, say, energy generation to heat your shower water from the big dams, which is down due to lack of free water from the sky....ALTHOUGH there are some crazy dam designs which pump the water back up and use it again that I did see - maybe not dooable for Hoover Dam but other places? Also, there is this flat tailed rodent that is improving groundwater retention in some desert conditions, not so much Hoover Dam but Beaver Dam...

@holgernarrog Месяц назад

The author gives you an optimistic green woke dream and you answer with reality.

@tonydagostino6158 Месяц назад

@@holgernarrog Whatever the uses, I don't see how we can go on without massive investment in desalination plants. There simply isn't enough groundwater, runoff and rain to supply projected growth

@holgernarrog Месяц назад

@@tonydagostino6158 Well, according to NASA 1/4 of the solar irradiation or 1/2 of the solar radiation that hits the earth surface is dissipated by water evaporation back to the higher atmosphere. Till now technology cannot compete with this quantities. But most of the rain falls on oceans or is flowing in rivers to oceans without being used by our society. The technology of desalination is improving rapidly. With 50 nukes for 150bn $ (costs in China) total investment perhaps 300 bn$ used for desalination you can make large parts of the Sahara green and feed > a billion poeple. Thus I do not see the limits of desalination for our society. Important is... - To get rid of green amageddon dogma as "climate change". - To get the costs of nuclear down close to the chinese costs by making a cost - benefit evaluation of the nuclear regulation (regulation, certification requirements, test requirements, documentation requirements).

@hatefulvengeance Месяц назад

Most of the water problems were caused by reckless growth of farming districts and suburban expansion. As said in a comment before a closed system is largely self-reliant when it comes to water use.

@DKP_TV Месяц назад

Super interesting, I genuinely didn't know the intricacies of geothermal heating networks - seems like a good idea. Also absolutely loving The Simpsons references.

@ericlotze7724 Месяц назад

15:05 THIS. Even if it’s not “the best”, it would keep voters happy. The person going “No we’re shutting down your jobs, vote for us!” Vs “Vote for me and you will still have a job in the future to come!”. I’d also like to see a LCA of all the materials used. A whole lot less e-waste to deal with that Mass-PV Scaling. Granted *Citation Needed* and use of superalloy tubes etc might muddy the water, but yeah. Also storage has to be taken into account.

@dank4383 Месяц назад

SO HAPPY that you're making videos still! I watch on nebula and RU-vid

@XDJaegermeister Месяц назад

In addition to energy production, some companies in germany try to extract lithium from the water, making it a mining operation...

@vicomte59 Месяц назад

My liberal council owns 100% of a district heat network that works by burning waste (Theoretically. They actually never linked). The issue is not the council's expertise, since they simply contract companies to build and run this, the issue is the lack of regulation. They are more expensive and keep increasing price, and we get half a dozen outages per year with no compensation. They are not regulated like electricity and gas providers, and we are held hostage by a contract that says we can't have another provider. They need to fix this before district heating networks can be successful in the UK.

@WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsago 21 день назад

Monopolies are always unforced errors and self-imposed pain. Ridiculous. Corruption at its finest. No doubt that company paid a pretty penny or greased many palms of your local council to get to be the sole primary provider of your area. It's how it works....

@bartroberts1514 Месяц назад

Great post, extremely well done. Nitpicking, now: coal is technically only the 3rd worst fossil fuel. Methane leaks so much that in the short run (88 times more GHE-intensive than CO2) depending on overall fugitive emissions fossil methane is at least 50% worse than coal, and with fossil methane pushing biomethane and landfill methane off the market, it's a lose-lose. Now, you may say coal mining releases a lot of methane, so that it's all a wash. Except coal mining is largely only economically possible because of (leaky) methane recovery. So coal is a feedback of methane, economically. Then there's bitumen. Bitumen recovery is so energy-intensive that a barrel of syncrude from bitumen takes between 1.4 and five barrels of bitumen burned on site. Plus about 3% of its energy content worth of electric energy. So even though oil is slightly less GHE-intensive than coal when burned, overall bitumen is worse. Splitting coal into thermal and metallurgical categories, we see that, like some methane is diverted from burning to make plastics and other industrial chemicals (notably, fertilizer), the slag factor of metallurgical coal reduces overall emissions some 43% from forming cementitious materials, reducing overall average emissions of cement making for OPC. So until you get rid of OPC in cement (which would be great, and is very feasible with geopolymers), coal gets the Bronze, bitumen Silver, fossil methane Gold. Did I mention methane-sourced nitrate fertilizer from methane destroys some soil microbes and leads to NOx emissions in agriculture? Turns out NOx are also GHGs.. another lose-lose of fossil methane. But great geothermal essay. Thanks!

@d.thomas6988 Месяц назад

Coal also produces methane gas when burned

@bartroberts1514 Месяц назад

@@d.thomas6988 Not only when burned. When disturbed in the ground, too. "Now, you may say coal mining releases a lot of methane, so that it's all a wash. Except coal mining is largely only economically possible because of (leaky) methane recovery. So coal is a feedback of methane, economically. " Methane's worse, but then in a four horse race (five if you split coal into thermal and metallurgical), and all of them too much for the environment to absorb before the climate crises get significantly worse, may I point out I started by saying it was a nitpick. We need solutions like enhanced geothermal, not nitpicks like mine.

@xwtek3505 Месяц назад

I'm sure it was "worst compared to the energy source we've studied"

@bartroberts1514 Месяц назад

@@xwtek3505 Yeah, but that's a rigged game: any energy generation compared to enhanced geothermal is "worst" in a two-horse race.

@donnusvogt Месяц назад

A example of geothermal energy for district heating is Schwerin in northern Germany. Their plant went online last year and supplies 2000 households

@FeriqBV Месяц назад

Commenting for engagement ❤

@travcollier Месяц назад

He's married already ;)

@kenbee1957 Месяц назад

The Lord's work

@zen1647 Месяц назад

All hail the mighty algorithm!

@MsPoliteRants Месяц назад

I’ve always been mad that no one ever talks about geothermal energy in this convo, like, ever. So thank you!

@bearlogg7974 19 дней назад

Why fear radioactive waste that might harm a small area in the distant future when coal is harming the entire globe constantly right now?

@MsPoliteRants Месяц назад

Boston has district heating! Same in Fall River. Just these old radiators in old houses emitting near, and I saw no way to turn them off or up/down

@johnburn8031 Месяц назад

Geothermal energy is amazing 🙋🏻‍♂️ places like Iceland, New Zealand, Japan, and parts of the USA being examples of good places for them.

@bartroberts1514 Месяц назад

Enhanced geothermal makes almost every nation conceivably geothermal nations, in time.

@Panetierre_ Месяц назад

I live near The Geysers complex in California and kept waiting for it to come up lol But I can see why our unique geology isn't the most relevant example for everything the video is exploring

@Guitar6ty Месяц назад

Trouble is the few cant make millions from it.

@johnburn8031 Месяц назад

@@Guitar6ty that's not true.

@johnburn8031 Месяц назад

@@Panetierre_ pray tell?

@foximou Месяц назад

I want to thank you. You're giving me hope and positivity on climate change without hiding the truth. I didn't think it was possible and it has fone so much good to my mental state. So again : thank you.

@scientificapproach6578 Месяц назад

The cost of electricity from provider like PG&E only represents 14% of the cost, the other 86% is due to transition/delivery. For PG&E it does not matter the cost of power because it represents a very small portion of their clients total cost.

@WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsago 21 день назад

PG&E heads' should decorate tall poles.

@help1ng316 Месяц назад

"Look at this -..-graph", did not see that coming

@Dantyx1 Месяц назад

Having done some math on different forms of heating for a course, I'm surprised district heating hasn't already taken off in more places! It's great!

@FishuaJo Месяц назад

Are Lesser North, North, and Extreme North the actual names of regions? That’s very cool.

@asabriggs6426 Месяц назад

Gas boilers may be 30kW but they are rather oversized for central heating (although less unreasonably sized for domestic hot water production). 5kW/house or so might be a better estimate of heating demand, leading to a heating demand of 18MW/km^2, so things are still good to go. One key issue is that the coal mine water will require a heat pump *somewhere* centralised or distributed. Even with a SCOP of 6 there is linkage between the cost of electricity and heat. I'm hoping for a future where heat is decoupled from electricity, so we don't have to upgrade houses (kerching), insulate many heat network pipes (kerching) or upgrade the electrical grid (kerching). If only we had low cost low carbon form of baseload power.

@azpont7275 Месяц назад

Fun fact: The Geotermal Gradient is among the highest in some places in the Carpathian Basen on the world, yet, geothermal is not used at all. Yippie.

@shintsu01 Месяц назад

Distributed heating systems has some problems, we are building a lot in the netherlands. - Monopoly there is only 1 provider so price is releative high - Contruction/refurbish opening the road and install the system in each house is not cheap While this will be a go to as a solution problem is that heating will be more expensive then using gas for a long time so its not really appreaciated by the public at the moment.

@ambrosenuk Месяц назад

Interesting you went up to Mulberry Park, which doesn't (and yep, definitely should have had) have district heating, because there's another estate managed by the same organisation (inherited from Bath City Council housing) which does have some 1980s-ish district heating - the Ballance Street estate on Julian Road. They use gas combined heat and power for it at the moment, though. But the infrastructure's there for supplying and billing for the heat, so it does work. No breakdowns in the 5 years I lived there.

@hollo0o583 Месяц назад

Same goes for switzerland. We move on average every three years and almost all of our apartments where heated by the city’s central trash burning generator. Yes you are physically burning trash which doesn’t seem very green but it gets burned very efficiently, barely leaving anything behind. The heat is used to power turbines, the smoke gets carefully cleaned of all particles that then can get buried without the negative consequences landfills have for the environment. No microplastic btw!

@AxelEriksson-yl5cq Месяц назад

Thanks for another great video! I watch your videos whenever I see them being published. See you in the next one!

@baksatibi Месяц назад

In my country several cities developed geothermal heating systems in recent years, thanks to existing district heating networks and favorable geology. The largest geothermal heating system in the EU (outside Iceland) started operating last year in Szeged, Hungary. It provides heating to 28,000 households and 400 public buildings thanks to the EU investing €23 million into the project.

@colinmcc8564 Месяц назад

Sounds super promising, I did a quick search of "Appalachia geothermal" but in the projects I clicked on a keyword search for "coal" didnt pop up. I guess its good that geothermal projects are in the works, but would need to do more research to see if this district heating/ using abandoned mines concept is being considered here. I guess one question I had was about the flooding of water and whether that could get 'dirty' from the coal mine and then seep into the aquipher? Excellent video btw, it was tuned perfectly to my attention span.

@b_dawg_17 Месяц назад

Best Ground News advertisement I've ever seen. Spreading ideas and information is something you and GN do very well. Thanks for educating us!

@DrSmooth2000 Месяц назад

I'll check them out

@deadgameplayer9358 Месяц назад

This is one of the best explained videos on one of the most interesting premises ive seen in a while. Kudos! You've earned a sub

@saeedsanei1272 Месяц назад

One thing about these coalbeds is they also leak methane, and whilst it hasn't been commercially feasible to capture and utilise most of that methane historically (around 1% of coalved methane in the UK is probably at commercial viability) it absolutely does make sense to capture and use it on site if you already have a powerplant or district heating system in place. That could extend the operational capability, or add flexibility to power output to handle variability/frequency response if we're talking electricity instead of district heating.

@ericlotze7724 Месяц назад

An odd bit i have only scraped the surface of is the production of Humic Acids. While it can be done from biomass, it seems it is also done with coal?

@JeffBilkins Месяц назад

I wonder what the water will look like after sitting in a warm coalmine for a few decades and any interesting biology that happens. Also if divers have to go in there to build and maintain infrastructure, like some mines are kilometers long and very deep.

@Luke523 Месяц назад

A very excellent meme at 15:41 for presenting a graph. I love it.

Месяц назад

Geothermal energy is mainly interesting as a home and building heating because you don't need as much heat. That's 30% of emissions right there. Edit... Hah the video wasn't done. 😊

@Jayenwoods Месяц назад

Awesome deep dive on this topic Simon, definitely my favourite video of yours so far, loving where you're taking this channel 🙂 Just one nikpik, i think the shadows you get from your face pieces in front of a projector kind of bring down the visual quality of the rest of the video, which is a shame as the rest looks great!

@amanofnoreputation2164 Месяц назад

Tectonic plates in Europe: your skull Tectonic plates in south east Asia: The bones in your feet

@ieuanhunt552 Месяц назад

Italy is in Europe and the plate there is paper thin

@joehitchen9311 Месяц назад

Really liking these recent videos!

@ferguswalker7345 Месяц назад

Great video. One thing I would argue with was the heat density calculation. 30kW per household is an extremely high estimate. While most houses may have a 30kW boiler, they don't need anywhere near that power. Especially since people could run on weather compensation heating on a lower power than they currently do with their boiler.

@thejudgmentalcat Месяц назад

Now we know what they can do to Centralia, Pennsylvania 🌋

@scraps7624 Месяц назад

Oh my god, the Simpsons references were absolutely next level. Your videos always teach me something, I really appreciate that!

@af8828 Месяц назад

Great work again, Simon! Aside from learning how various forms of geothermal can be implemented, my key takeaway from this video was: Top-down policy needs to shift from business as usual to emergency measures immediately because... well.. we're in an emergency. If that is not done adequately, we must force those who influence policy to change their behavior, one way or another (cough cough the Shinzo Abe treatment).

@7_v610 Месяц назад

Fantastic video, once again. Huge thanks Simon for spreading awareness and inform people!!!

@yourgoodliness Месяц назад

This was an interesting watch! I hadn't considered new uses for closed, inactive coal mines before.

@crackedemerald4930 Месяц назад

doctor Simon Clarke do you have a video on trucking nowadays? the environmental, social, psychological and even physiological impact of it?

@darthurza Месяц назад

You have cast the Heat Pump spell. Technology Connections need to be referenced.

@thomaskuzma4360 Месяц назад

this simpsons references in this are embiggening my soul

@manuelcampagna7781 Месяц назад

Simon, I'd like to let you know that my nephew Charles, who is an engineer whose occupation has been (he is now of retirement age) to do studies about products. He is married with children who now have lives of their own. He did his own study on whether to install goethermal for his family house in Laval, a suburb of Montreal. He then installed it himself, and has not used any other home-heating system.

@gunnargu Месяц назад

In Iceland houses are heated with hot water which is heated using geothermal sources

@FeeshUnofficial 14 дней назад

I'm happy to see that the Netherlands already uses a lot of these options in many places

@Atchikaru Месяц назад

Thank you for the very informative video! Also, thank you for providing references, I definitely want to check those out! :)

@kyleeames8229 Месяц назад

13:11 The volcano erupting the moment he finished his line as if to say “ワシを馬鹿にしておるのか⁉️” is just awesome.

@davidstone408 Месяц назад

Simon - still missing the value of Tidal power - we are an island. On District Heating - Transport for London (the Underground) has a heat issue, and new tube trains will have air conditioning (more heat in tunnels) - most deep stations have disused lift shafts converted to vent air, however disused City Road station is now Bunhill Heat and Power scheme, but more heat needs to be converted.

@thatcrazykid1393 Месяц назад

This is an incredibly high-quality video, @simon clark. You have really outdone yourself.

@danshillabeer9523 Месяц назад

I had to check the settings to see if the video was playing fast - it wasn't. I know about this stuff and I still couldn't keep up.

@lowstrife Месяц назад

I was not expecting a surprise Soup video today, but I got a surprise Soup video today.

@CedView Месяц назад

Great and very informative video! I think a mix of long and detailed videos and some shorter ones would be great. I usually watch the videos during breakfast or during a short break. So I either have to schedule time in the evening to not forget your longer videos (and therefore often forget them), or I have to watch them gradually over the period of 1-2 days (which also leads to me forgetting them). You obviously have the stats and know what works and what doesn't. Just wanted to share my opinion

@sambookbinder4201 Месяц назад

Oh god i was listening to this podcast style and as soon as i heard "Look at this graph" i had to check and you delivered

@j.s.c.4355 Месяц назад

Everywhere I’ve ever seen district heating, it tended to overheat the buildings and people left their windows open, but if you designed the system to only provide enough heat to get to maybe 16C, it would be highly efficient and allow people to customize their desired temperature with room heaters.

@MyKoira Месяц назад

I thought April's fools day was at the start of the April, not end of the April?

@johnburn8031 Месяц назад

The Pope changed it.

@TheCaesarMania Месяц назад

The April fool is that it’s already the end of april

@mauYair Месяц назад

this was excellent, Simon! keep up the good work you're doing

@Rose_Sif Месяц назад

The ad I saw before the video started was such a coincidence. “Big industry with low emissions”

@Medixum Месяц назад

As someone from iceland the function of a boiler really confused me for a long time

@thomasjones4893 Месяц назад

Amazing video as always Simon. Sincerely hope youtube starts treating you better soon

@jfolz Месяц назад

Hearing about geothermal energy honestly makes me so happy. I hear so little about it when it has the potential to provide the remaining few percent of generation we need to decarbonize the grid. And I hadn't even heard of using it for heating! Great stuff!

@HelamanGile Месяц назад

11:41 I thought you said evil Technologies Incorporated😂

@felixsteininger Месяц назад

District heating supplies about 27% of Austrian homes.

@TheHogan883 Месяц назад

I love all the Simpsons references. They really made this entertaining to watch. This video is super interesting. Good content. Thanks for making it.

@chrishunt2636 Месяц назад

AMAZING INFO, RESEARCH AND SKETCH COMMIC . Love it 🎉

@kotor1357 Месяц назад

The minecraft greenscreen backgrounds in the video make me trust simon more

@kendrajohnson6535 Месяц назад

Blimey, this was incredibly gripping! Thank you so much for a great video, Simon and Soup :)

@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Месяц назад

I imagine this would be particularly valuable in places like West Virginia, with an economy very strongly dependent on coal mining. It'll be an important task to bring new jobs in renewable energy to places that might be resistant to change, but employing the skills workers already have would be an easy part of that.

@Natelmun Месяц назад

I’m loving all these videos from you Simon!

@sorchaazuragaming4765 Месяц назад

“A bunch of volcanoes in a trench coat, masquerading as a country” I died 😂😂😂

@ItsaDigitalHamster Месяц назад

Subscribed for "Oh that's why it's called that" and **Look at this graph** KEEP EM COMING

@butterspread Месяц назад

Studying environmental and natural resource economics modules at the univeristy of Bath (courseworks due in 4 days, and degree is done in 3 weeks!) And this channel has been fascinating to watch alongside my studies wrapping up. Its deeply encouraging how many ways the issue of sustainable resource production/consumption is interescted by different feilds that can all work together.

@DrSmooth2000 Месяц назад

Don't fly to Canary for graduation party 😼🍾

@j.s.c.4355 Месяц назад

You said, “If your rocks aren’t hot enough…” That is so much more family appropriate than what I thought I heard the first time through.