The Green Party Launch Their Election Campaign 

The Greens' strong support of NATO _is_ standard Labour policy as well as standard policy of the Tories, the LibDems and Reform.

Look at the disgusting call to allah a month ago and how they refused to do anything. No.

@@kaing5074 Stop talking nonsense

​@@pipster1891Green party policy PSD319 has a list of desired reforms to NATO including not operating outside of Europe and limiting expansion. It is hardly strong support.

Yes. Clean the rivers, clean the atmosphere, clean the seas. Clean the country of immigrants? I doubt it.

And with NATO, progressing through Asia in future.

agree

100%

Perhaps….but people seem to forget that the Greens allied with the Lib Dems to stop Corbyn getting in back in 2019.

And Andrew Feinstein for those in HSP!

I may have to move to Bristol!

I live in Bristol lol

In Bristol voting Green is chill imo, voting Green in marginals however... you're just asking for the Tories at that point

@@kindmulberry7196 Yeah I don't need to vote tactically living here

Bristol my hometown! My MP, Kerry McCarthy, abstained on the Palestine ceasefire vote along with Thagnam Debbonaire last year so, f**k em. Will be voting Green as things stand. Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, any right/far right party 100% ruled out.

Yes. Clean the rivers, clean the atmosphere, clean the seas. Clean the country of immigrants? I doubt it.

ImMiGrAnTs​@@Stiffytheenlightened

And let Conservatives win, thus enabling a 1party system Great plan eh 🙄

You can only do that with a change of our electoral system

A change is needed, but you will not get a green government. They simply don't have enough support and can't gain enough seats under FPTP. I recommend voting tactically if you want to kick out the Tories.

@@moomin7461 no. I suggest voting tactically against labour, they are going to win anyway but if they win by a large margin they will claim its proof you should never be left wing so if you are left wing you should vote tactically against labour even if it means voting for the tories.

@@brillsmith2207 lmaooooooo

That is exactly what has happened in Australia, we voted for change and got more of the same

​@@brillsmith2207if you are left wing and vote for the Tories you are insane

It's highly unlikely.

@@moomin7461 10 + then? Every little helps!

​@@robmetcalfe I would say even that is unlikely. People want to get the Tories out and to do that requires tactical voting. A vote for green (depending on how far behind they are of the main two parties) could actually help the Tories win again.

@@moomin7461 I can't,hand on heart vote for this Labour party. I believe that Reform will do a deal with the Tory's and that will help them. I'm politically homeless. The 2 party system means the establishment always wins,so gradually building support for A N other party might change the status quo for my Grandchildren.

Much of what seems impossible turns out to be quite possible when you get together to try anyway. A group of Parisian working women spent just a couple of days fundamentally changing the course of the French revolution in October 1789. Generations of people in South Africa and around the world fought apartheid there, even though change seemed impossible almost right up until it happened. So many examples of this kind of thing in history, most of them involving large numbers of supposedly powerless people getting together in the face of seemingly impossible odds. I believe that Andrew Feinstein has a real chance of beating Starmer in HSP. It just depends on whether his campaign can spread the word fast enough, especially now that the election is happening so soon. That'd be one absolutely amazing upset.

Me too!!

I’m from Bristol as well! Kerry McCarthy my MP. She abstained on the Palestine ceasefire vote last year along with Thagnam Debbonaire (another MP here). Voting Green most likely. Labour, Tory, Lib Dem 100% ruled out.

Not actually the best move in the broken system.

I'm pretty sure they've got a candidate in every constituency this time

@@crhu319 Over simplified answer. Even under FPTP there are loopholes. It’s difficult to break up the duopoly, but that is not the same as impossible. Between 2010 and 2015, the SNP went from 6 seats to 56. Labour themselves, were a third party in the early 20th century. Before Liberal splits, propelled them up the pecking order. And why can’t the Greens do with the left, what the 57 shades of Farageism, has done with the right? Where the Tories feel compelled to pander to his tune, rather than the one nation Tories. ‘Lesser evilism’, has only served to perpetuate the rightward shift of the Overton window. The Corbyn experience, should have taught progressives, something out of left field, needs to be done. To break the monotony.

Okay fair enough, just be careful of complacency and FPTP

@@kindmulberry7196 to be honest my vote will not count one bit, I’m in one of the safest seats in the country

I only ever vote for independent Pelicans

😂 I love that you will be voting for an independent pelican. I’ll either vote for a Green one or an independent one. The labour, conservative, and Lib Dem pelicans haven’t appealed to be for a long time.

Good job finding a pelican in government

​@@ShakirahIbaadNext parliament there's gonna be tory roosters

​​@@kindmulberry7196There are a few Eagles in Labour.

With PR yes. With FPTP, no.

Sadly, there's not much chance of the Greens winning in Norwich, so you could be risking a Tory MP.

Honestly makes a lot of sense as Norfolk has been neglected for a long time. So much stunning nature in your neck of the woods. 😊

In Norwich you risk a Tory MP!!! Careful!

What is the risk? It will only be more of the same under either major party. We need change.

@@kindmulberry7196 in Norwich south there’s absolutely no chance of a Tory MP. Also highly unlikely in Norwich North. No need for tactical voting in this city. Safe to follow your heart

Same

Because of the chicken coup?

Me too, and I was a LP activist and CLP Exec officer

CAN'T not CANT ;)

If you want tories out, you have to sadly

@@mikelucraft Is that a very loud CANT!

@@oldswanredsox6927 Just emphasis and it's still "can't" :)

@@mikelucraft some bloke came up to me and said you cant

You are insane

@@garytaylor6382explain?

@@garytaylor6382 Ad hominem fallacy.

Maybe you need to develop a conscience. Have you ever asked yourself what sort of person would indulge in adolescent fantasies of saving the World, like with sustainability for example?

Do you think these radicals have been good for Germany?

Why? do you like the colour?

@@StiffytheenlightenedI like the colour blue but look where that’d get me

I'm voting Labour, usually Lib Dem but voting Labour tactically to get the Tories out. A Green vote is REALLY risky I warn you, do you want 5 more years of the Tories? I don't hence my tactical vote. Also I see the Greens as a one trick party anyways, very much like the SNP, they have one thing and not really much else

@@jackthehacker05 It suits you, but I,m voting for any party with bright pink colours.

If you want conservatives out vote labour, votes wasted on greens sadly. FPTP is so undemocratic

Michael interviewed Green co-leader Carla Denyer literally only a couple of weeks ago ... 🤔

@@el2279 I want much more of that. And longer interviews.

Deform, I call 'em

No, vote tactically or get 5 more years of Tories.

​​@@moomin7461tories are doomed the only tactic is preventing starmers authoritarian nightmare

Complacency loses​@@andyd8434

Ditto.

yes ut just chech first that doing so wont split the left vote an let a tory in .. remember green first if you cant get that then labour if you cant get that then idk

​@@firefox5926Here's the trouble. Starmer has broken faith with the central ground in pursuit of tory votes, never mind more left or environmentally leaning voters, for whom he is now no more than a tory under a false flag. Tory or tory lite isn't any real choice.

​​@@firefox5926true, but for many the issue is that Starmer's Labour look increasingly like a more competent tory party. Soundbites are one thing, but final determination for me comes with the respective manifestos.

​@@firefox5926Yep that's what I'm warning green voters. They can challenge a Labour government, even if they get a huge majority. the Tories will just crush their views to pieces theyll have nothing

​@@TheHoveHereticLabour are nothing like the Tories, I think that's more a propaganda line to trick people

Become? They've been a social democratic party since their inception, and social democracy is capitalism with a strong welfare system. They've become more neoliberal since Blair with the exception of the Corbyn years.

Capitalism isn't bad if regulated well

Can't?

Charismatic leaders are only required to suck up the populist votes. Politicians should rely on policies, not charisma. Charismatic leaders are often bad leaders. Johnson was popular - so what? Farage is popular - so what? Trump was popular - so what? Thatcher, etc etc

You’ll get the Tories either way 🙄

The left are done full stop

No one cares Biden guilty of genocide.

I muted 'trump' topic a few years back which has now come back to bite me in the ass because I forgot I had muted it. What the hell have I missed?!

But I actually want a Tory government

Hopefully you can’t wait for another Tory government either

We will. They won’t! As Maggie Thatcher correctly said, ‘power to the people means power to the state’. Carla Denyer is a dictator wanna-be