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The Guitar That SCARED Gibsons. (The Lawsuits Begin) 

Robert Baker
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@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar Год назад
HEY GANG, Would love to hear any info you have about the old 70s Ibanez Lawsuit Era stuff.
@fanoboss
@fanoboss Год назад
I have only a few guitars but most are MIJ. I've had MIJ Burny, Greco, Fenders, Epiphones and a few others. My Greco EX800 is the shiznit
@TylerJohnstonGuitar
@TylerJohnstonGuitar Год назад
Lot of folks know this, but a ton of songs from Van Halen’s debut album were played on a lawsuit Ibanez. Eddie’s 1975 Ibanez Destroyer was one of his favorite guitars until he cut it up to look like a shark. He said the modification made the guitar lose all resonance, and he hated how it sounded after.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc Год назад
Reverb has a photo quiz, is it a Gibson or a lawsuit guitar. It’s harder than you think.
@RokDAWG1
@RokDAWG1 Год назад
If you look at KISS videos from the mid 70’s when they went to Japan, they’re not playing Gibsons. They’re playing lawsuit era Ibanez guitars! Paul Stanley actually brought back one of the famed Destroyers! He later gave it to Ace. I can’t remember exactly what happened to the guitar but it’s interesting to know that Ibanez just seemed to not care about copying other instruments from other companies.
@Sean_Plays_Guitar
@Sean_Plays_Guitar Год назад
My old man has a Ibanez Double Cut Archtop from the Lawsuit Era and the neck on that particular one is very similar to my 78' LP Deluxe. It's a really nice guitar. Not a bolt on neck. But like you said, the 70's was the wild west. It was hit and miss from Gibson, Fender and everyone else right down the line. I think that is the fun of 70's guitar hunting. It's the epitome of "Try before you buy" guitars. Cool video, man. Sorry the seller wouldn't budge.
@superlead1002
@superlead1002 Год назад
The Japanese copies of that time is a virtual rabbit hole of fascination! The REAL Japanese clones of Gibson and fender guitars are excellent and highly sought after. A fairer comparison would be a higher end set neck version of a Japanese copy to compare to your Gibson. I would compare a Tokai, Greco, Burny et al. to keep the comparison in perspective; not the model Ibanez you're using, although it is nice. They had (and still do) many high-end versions that would go head-to-head with Gibson and Fender. I'm a bit of a Tokai fan-boy and would suggest their late 70's to early 80's models from the LS-50 on up to the LS-120 let's say. The LS 50 and 60 are the lower end versions (but really good) and the 80, 100, and 120 are the higher end versions. There are even higher custom order models from that era as well. As I said, it's a rabbit hole for sure!
@markrosenquist8259
@markrosenquist8259 Год назад
I agree with you 100% on that one. Like you said this is a lower end bolt on neck guitar. The high end stuff definitely competes with Gibsons. And yeah Tokais are amazing guitars. I’m actually looking to buy a LPC 230. For the price you can’t really go wrong.
@trevor4533
@trevor4533 Год назад
@@markrosenquist8259 Exactly. There are some incredible MIJ LPs that will rival any Gibson. But this bolt on neck Ibby clone scares exactly zero Gibsons 😂
@kimseniorb
@kimseniorb Год назад
these bolt on hollow top guitars are crappy. the good ones are from the 80s
@markrosenquist8259
@markrosenquist8259 Год назад
@@trevor4533 Haha! 100%
@j_freed
@j_freed Год назад
I love that with Japanese guitars, the price point is in the model name (isn’t it by thousands of Yen.) Mid 80s FenderJapan guitars are the same. The cheaper ones can just use a pick up upgrade
@bigjohnson9561
@bigjohnson9561 Год назад
My first electric guitar back in 1981 was a lawsuit guitar. It is a Aria Pro II Les Paul. I still own it and it’s still great.
@GabeHelma
@GabeHelma Год назад
All the Arias ive played from the 80s were really nice! I own an 84 zz deluxe and an 85 knight warrior and i will never sell them.
@paulofreire7520
@paulofreire7520 Год назад
I still have my ibanez les paul, black, bought in 75. And it’s an exact replica. Bridge, tunamatic, headstock, everything. It was my first great guitar. Very cool video, Rob 👍🏻
@StratmanDarrell
@StratmanDarrell Год назад
I just retruned from Japan. Fascinating country. They have a high affinity for art. Building guitars is like art. That's why their guitars are so great and close to perfection. No doubt sadly it led to the demise of Gibson, but then again there's two sides of the story. Gibson could have been managed better too. They seem to have much smarter management today, although their guitars are mostly unaffordable for the majority of musicians. Always wanted a Tobacco burst Les Paul and then when I saw Bob Welch play a white LP on Ebony Eyes, I had to have one too.
@me.roderick
@me.roderick Год назад
I was told all instruments made in Japan are labeled "crafted". This means one must study under a master for some time before they can construct. They also grade their wood instrument grade which gibson and fender dropped in the early 70s? I dont know what to believe.
@gkol69
@gkol69 Год назад
My first guitar in '83 was a Cimar by Ibanez that looked 99% like this, bolt on, had the same artwork tailpiece, the same "harmonica" bridge, the same knobs and two Dimarzio Super Distortions. Mine had thicker binding and the headstock bound, too, and rectangular fret inlays. Cimar was a lower level/cost brand owned by Ibanez. I still have a photo of me playing live circa 1987 but I can't post it here and I'm lookin at now for reference.
@MichaelSorensen-bl3ec
@MichaelSorensen-bl3ec Год назад
My first Les Paul was a Burny, simply because Gibsons were way too expensive for me as a teenager. I played it for years, gigged with it, never had any problems. But I did change the bridge pickup to a Duncan '59 because the original became very microphonic. When I finally could afford a Gibson Les Paul, I played a few in stores and a few that friends owned, and wondered what all the fuss was about! Mind you, this was the late 80's, and Gibson were not at their peak at the time. The Gibson Les Pauls of the time had a lot of weird features like a fine tuner stop tailpiece, pull out string winders built into the machine heads, skinny necks and super powered pickups that just didn't appeal to me. By comparison my Burny was way more authentic to a 59/60 Les Paul.
@y2kcurran
@y2kcurran Год назад
I scored a great deal on an '87 Greco EG68-60 in ebony (a LP Custom style guitar). It's honestly a superb guitar - set neck, open book headstock, ABR1 bridge, dark chocolatey FB and the Screamin82 pickups. It plays like butter so I do feel like I got one of the "good" ones. Don't let your hunt end with this one, there are many other better models to try out, I'd definitely recommend Greco!
@rickpearce9239
@rickpearce9239 Год назад
I have a 1976 Ibanez LP clone (J761712) modal made in Japan. I bought it new in the spring of 1977. At the time I had a Gibson Les Paul but I took a gig playing with an up and coming band (who never made it) with an actual record deal with a major label and we had to go out on a tour opening for other bands for three months all across the US. The Ibanez played so well I left the Gibson home and toured with the Ibanez. I still own the Ibanez and it was my main player for about 30 years. In my opinion the one Robert plays here is missing possibly it's greatest asset, the Ibanez pickups. The Ibanez pickups in my guitar are my all time favorite humbuckers of all the guitars I have ever owned. I have had a few Gibson Les Paul's over the years and I currently have two Gibson LP Standards as well as an assortment of various Epiphone LP modals but there is something special about the Ibanez clones and I think it's the pickups. If anyone is looking to buy a 70's Ibanez LP, I strongly suggest that you find one with the original pickups. I should note also that my Ibanez has a "pancake" body, standard stop tailpiece and Tune-O-Matic bridge which is how it came. Outside of the tuners, my Ibanez is all original. After 46 years and a probably a thousand gigs, it's still a great guitar (with tons of finish checking).
@PaulSmith-zi3sn
@PaulSmith-zi3sn Год назад
Super cool !!
@MickH60
@MickH60 Год назад
The One Robert is playing is a cheap model, he needs to get, or look for one with proper Les Paul specs, there's literally thousands of them.... Searching Yahoo Japan is a great place to start...
@jcburger733
@jcburger733 Год назад
Cannot believe they wouldn’t take off $100 The one pickup sounded pretty good though.
@MG-rj1cl
@MG-rj1cl Год назад
got a 1978 ar2619. Tons on volume , mahogany one piece body, 3 piece maple neck with volute. coil taps and phase reverse, heavy at 10lbs. immaculate construction
@iggrut
@iggrut Год назад
A few months ago i got myself an Orville 1989 Les Paul Custom. For a reasonable price. I really love it. It feels so special compared to my other guitars. Some of the old Ibanez looking so good but i also heard there are really differences between them.
@StuartKReilly
@StuartKReilly Год назад
I've got a Greco and an Aria Pro II les paul. They far surpass any Gibson I've played in playability and tone. You do have to be careful buying these because they are 40-50 years old and some of them do have issues. My Aria Pro II had microphonic pickups so I swapped them out. The nicer ones have full size pots in them so most of the time you don't need to upgrade the wiring unless you specifically want something. The golden era of the lawsuits seems to be around the early 80s because thats when the Burny's and Greco's started getting even better build quality because their factory Fujigen invested in a CNC machine to make the build quality more consistent. Earlier stuff came out of the Matsomoku factory which still made excellent guitars but Fujigen made instruments are always top shelf and built to perfection. Fujigen also makes the Japanese Fenders and Ibanez guitars. They're still around and have their own house brand called FGN which makes amazing guitars for the price you pay
@umbertoyltp
@umbertoyltp Год назад
My first solid body was a 1974 Ibanez brownish SG which was second hand, because the black Les Pauls were selling like hot buns. It had a bigsby and the looks of a Custom. New they sold for around $450.
@jonnybravvo4282
@jonnybravvo4282 Год назад
My black on black SG is my favorite guitar. I love it more than my cherry Les. My first guitar was Ibanez, but a 90s one w locking tremolo
@George-pt7uv
@George-pt7uv Год назад
I've got an '82 Epiphone Les Paul Standard that was made in the Matsumoku factory in Japan. There's no history anywhere but these guys do exist. It's got the long neck tenon, Epiphone and Les Paul on the headstock and the red tinted fret markers that showed up with other Japanese Les Paul copies. Haven't been able to find anything official on these but I know there are others out there. I love mine and it's every bit as good a Gibson to me. The pickups were replaced with Gibson Burstbuckers by the previous owner. Only thing I'd like to do is replaced the electronics. Any info you or any other posters have would be much appreciated.
@peekaboo4390
@peekaboo4390 Год назад
I have a Yamaki D18 lawsuit acoustic and it is simply amazing. It is almost to loud for me to sing with, plays like silk and is tonally rich and full from high to low. I am a bass player so I have to love my MIJ Aria's, Tokai, Yamaha's and all the brands that were making killer basses that are still sought after and highly collectable.
@fepatton
@fepatton Год назад
My first electric guitar was a Memphis LP copy, bought new around 1980. It was also a bolt-on, and at the time I had no idea it was odd. I still have it, though it sits in a case now.
@keithwilbert444
@keithwilbert444 Год назад
I have one
@RJW14
@RJW14 Год назад
I have a lawsuit ibanez les paul custom from 1975, so I got the "authentic" headstock. It's really cool, really grooves, but it's had a hard life man. Previous owner was not kind. I put Dimarzio anniversary PAFs in it and they are just perfect. Still got the super 70's lying around, so I can still make a Van Halen guitar. the 75 ibanezzes are the most easily dated cause they had 1. the "authentic" headstock and the neck plate had the serial stamped. Older ones don't have the SN on the neck plate and newer ones don't have the headstock.
@motorrebell
@motorrebell Год назад
Lawsuit Guitars are Awesome ! I would highly recommend a Hagström Swede or a Framus S-360 ( Gibson LP competitors from Europe ) too !
@jimihendrix1575
@jimihendrix1575 Год назад
I have a lemon drop TOKAI Love Rock l found in the Netherlands. I had it shipped to me in the states because GIBSON blocks the sale of these guitars here. Instead of making their guitars with care and quality, GIBSON decided it's just easier to eliminate competition by blocking their importation into the United States. My TOKAI is a FANTASTIC playing, and looking guitar. If these were easier to get, they would run GIBSON out of business. Competition is what keeps companies on their toes, and improving their product. Because GIBSON doesn't allow competition, l will NEVER own a GIBSON. They are the bullies of the guitar world. If GIBSON made great guitars, competition wouldn't bother them.
@joshreynolds729
@joshreynolds729 Год назад
👍 truth
@samright4661
@samright4661 Год назад
Clown it’s called Copyright Infringement!! Companies should make their own designs
@therover4141
@therover4141 Год назад
​@@samright4661 every epiphone or gibson copy player always claims its better than any gibson and QC is why they don't buy Gibson. Lol ok whatever
@cwl1000
@cwl1000 Год назад
I have one of the earliest Tokai ES100R (81). In immaculate tobacco sunburst. Had it nearly 30 years now. Never parting with it. 🎸⚡️🤘
@trevor4533
@trevor4533 Год назад
While I do agree companies like Tokai, Navigator, Momose etc make some absolute smoke show guitars, lets be realistic here. Its copyright infringement, not competition blocking. Thankfully, the year is 2023 and they're easier to buy than ever before with Reverb, proxy services, etc.
@dbecker33
@dbecker33 Год назад
Edwards and Navigator are phenomenal if you’re out there looking for a Japanese made LP style guitar.
@johncartelli
@johncartelli Год назад
I have an Edwards....closets thing to a 59 Ill ever have...sustains for days
@johncartelli
@johncartelli Год назад
@@thatoneguybones8036 and better looking
@markleadbeatter6196
@markleadbeatter6196 Год назад
I had a Tokai Tele back in the 80’s and it was a fantastic guitar both from a construction and playing point of view. My 78 Silverburst LP Custom on the other hand was very poor in comparison however
@ParaBellum2024
@ParaBellum2024 Год назад
My first electric guitar was a 1970s Japanese-made "Columbus" Les Paul copy with a bolt-on neck. It looked and played ok, and I gigged with it, but it's long gone so I can't really tell how good or bad it was. Probably not very good! Those copies were definitely made down to a price, with characteristics such as bent plywood arched tops (no carving required), and single coil pickups fitted in humbucker sized cases.
@Forest_Fifer
@Forest_Fifer Год назад
I went through 2 or 3 "lp"s with the pressed plywood tops...most were hot garbage.
@daviddenson3324
@daviddenson3324 Год назад
I have a lawsuit Les Paul Custom made by Burny. It was made in 1983 and is cream colored to commemorate Randy Rhoads who played a Gibson LP Custom. Damn good quality guitar. When I bought it the frets were very worn and I did have a luthier refret it and it breathed a new life into that guitar. It looks exactly like a Gibson LP Custom down to the diamond inlay on the headstock and the open book shape as well. Set neck....just everything as an actual Gibson LP Custom.
@thelolguy007
@thelolguy007 Год назад
I’ve had a few in my time. Sunburst Tokai Ls 50 with ‘Les Paul’ on the headstock. Think it was a ‘78. True Lawsuit era. A mid 80’s Tokai Love Rock (Super skinny neck) weighed a tonne. And a 1980 Yamaha Sg2000
@januarputra7149
@januarputra7149 Год назад
I have a 70s yamaha studio lord. That thing is really comparable to a gibson! The weight seems right (probably a bit heavier than gibson lp) and the pupsare full of character (a bit brighter than the 490s and 498s). All in all, it's a great les paul minus the open book headstock and pearloid inlays.
@craigdetroit
@craigdetroit Год назад
I owned a Burny RLC-70 and it was phenomenal. The Lawsuit era guitars are fantastic as are the Orville by Gibson Japanese market Les Paul fighters.
@muzerino
@muzerino Год назад
I love Japanese LP’s and own several from FGN, but the real issue I had with Orville was their photo flame tops. Not the plain maple ones, but those beautiful looking pictures of wood grain that are the same on every Orville. Even Fender used the photo on some flame top strats.
@MickH60
@MickH60 Год назад
@@muzerino Orville and Orville by Gibson are two distinctly different models, OBG's didn't use photo flames....
@Natimaguitar
@Natimaguitar Год назад
That's an Ibanez 2350 "fancy". Some of them had the fancy hardware, and others had the standard hardware. So in the Ibanez collector circles we just refer to them as the "fancy" version. The pickups would have originally been Maxon "Super 70's" with Alnico 8 roughcast magnets, they've definitely been replaced. It's light because it is hollow. The top is NOT a maple cap, but instead an arched birch laminate much like you'd find on a semi-hollow guitar. The Ibanez 2650 and 2651 are the higher-end Custom and Standard models respectively that had proper solid bodies, full thickness maple caps, and set, non-detachable necks. Along with MOP inlays and real ebony fretboards. The change from the open book headstock occured in early 1976, and was the result of a cease and desist letter addressed to Hoshino Gakki, as opposed to a lawsuit. At that time Ibanez were already producing original models and transitioning away from straight copies already, so it wasn't a huge deal for them to switch to a different headstock shape, but they continued to make copies into 1977. Grecos were made at the same factory at Fujigen and continued producing guitars with the open-book headstock well into the 1990s.
@MichelMullenders
@MichelMullenders Год назад
I have an Ibanez model 2350 Cherry burst from 1973 with open book headstock and with a Gibson AR1 Bridge and Maxon pickups and I absolutely love it
@waskerbasket9601
@waskerbasket9601 Год назад
I’m in love with my 1980 Greco EG 500. Which is just a straight up copy of a really quality Gibson Les Paul custom.
@laska747
@laska747 Год назад
I have a 1986 Burny Super Grade which is probably based on a 1960 Les Paul. Great guitar!
@MashaT22
@MashaT22 Год назад
I hope you’ll still try to get one! I’m willing to bet the ‘74 models with the open book might be a little more similar. Maybe they made minor changes to the specs after the lawsuit threats? Now THAT would be interesting to do a three way comparison - getting your hands on a ‘74 vs. the model you have here vs. your Gibby. Keep at it! Ty!
@MickH60
@MickH60 Год назад
There are literally 100's of models, the one Rob has here is a low end model....
@ericwhite2830
@ericwhite2830 Год назад
Had a Greco RR65 Randy Rhoads tribute. Had the yellowed white finish with gold hardware and the open book headstock. Fantastic guitar. Regret having to let it go.
@MickH60
@MickH60 Год назад
I still have one, it's a 1982 model RR65 and i'll never sell it...
@sickb2200
@sickb2200 Год назад
I have a '78 (PF-2) in transparent black stain - right after the change. Very much still a copy but with a bolt on neck, a very slight shoulder slope opposite the cutaway, and the Gibraltar bridge. They kept the Super 70's pickups which were the real stars of the show. It's quite a bit louder than any Les Paul I've compared it to and it's got that "kerang" chime to it. Got the guitar in 1981 from a semi-pro player needing to pay the bills. Many have tried to buy it from me including 2 guitar teachers, but I held on to it. Great guitar. A nice original lawsuit Ibanez LP copy will run you $800-$1200 now.
@anaxaplaysia
@anaxaplaysia Год назад
I have a Crestline lawsuit era guitar. It is a set neck Les Paul copy and it is my go to guitar for most anything. I love this guitar and it was cheap. I spent a fair amount of money in having it tweaked to perfection, fingerboard reglued, refret, rebind on the neck and a new nut. It is a maple top on a mahogany body with a maple neck. I like the sound and feel and it plays as good as any GIBSON I pull off the rack.
@sjdanthem
@sjdanthem Год назад
I've got a Masada that has great feel. One piece body, bolt on. The wood in the top is a beautiful tiger grain but the damn thing is brown. It'd take some work to pretty it up but I might just have to do it.
@davidrowe4412
@davidrowe4412 Год назад
When I was stationed in Japan, I ordered a LP and a Strat from the BX. Got the LP but Fender refused to ship the Strat to Japan. Never understood why until way later. On the other hand, I saw all of these copies in music stores in both northern Japan and Okinawa. I could kick myself for not buying any. 😢
@MrDeengels
@MrDeengels Год назад
I have a sunburst Hohner made in Japan in the 80s. I got in the early 2000’s for $50. I’ve always loved it and keep it in its case. It’s 40 years old and plays like a beast!!
@evalex71
@evalex71 Год назад
You should go ahead with your original plan - pro setup, get it PLEK’D, etc and then see how she holds up!
@martinjames6148
@martinjames6148 Год назад
Interesting stuff. Love your work Robert, please tell us a bit about your story with the guitar. Early practice routines, bands you loved, first guitars etc.
@buddymiller659
@buddymiller659 Год назад
I owned a few les paul types. Two were 3 pick-up customs, one was the '75 w/open book headstock and split diamond inlay ,the other one has the newer headstock , and inlay, (I still own and play it) It also has a plywood top ,no maple cap.It's a '78, bolt on neck. In '76 I also had an Ibanez firebird V with set neck and the no-name vibrato tail piece,and banjo tuners.Great guitar, but the nitro(?) finish just flacked off whenever you looked at the guit. Also had a set neck Flying V, copy of the'58, string through body.Around '75ish, I was also using an Ibanez SG custom,w/ 3 pickups ,also set neck.This guitar was lent to me. and in between and prior to all these examples, I also owed several Ibanez, basic entry level strat types, les pauls, and a 335 copy w/ bolt on neck......I played Ibanez at the time because they were all I could afford. ..Now at 67 years of age ,I've got a bunch of Gibsons and Fenders.My old '78 bolt on 3 pickup,plywood top, still has a certain charm and a really great sound..
@cubano100pct
@cubano100pct Год назад
I had a black Hondo II Les Paul with DiMarzio pickups. Loved it and I miss it. It was stolen at church, when I left there over night.
@markpell8979
@markpell8979 Год назад
I had one of these Greco/Ibanez 'lawsuit' Les Pauls, a copy of the three pickup '57 "Black Beauty." There was never actually a suit btw, just a cease-and-desist action and some market warfare shenanigans. My uncle gave this guitar to me. He owned a music company and was having Greco build him some guitars for starter/instruction packages that came with a 10W amp, a new thing at the time. So they gave him this very nice guitar in person in Japan from their prototype shop to thank him for the business. It was my first quality electric and it was beautiful, well made and sounded fantastic. The binding, purfling and inlays were SICK quality and the black lacquer was amazing. Weighed almost 10lbs though but I dealt with it. I played it for probably thousands of hours over many years as my main axe and performed and recorded with it. Eventually it started to have electrical issues but it still played fine on the bridge, and in the both position which was really the bridge and middle p/u parallel and phased. An unusual sound but I didn't use that much. I wanted to get it fixed but that never happened because I had more guitars by then so I kinda retired it but still recorded a couple things, then 'loaned' it to a girlfriend who kept it to 'learn' and pawned it without telling me. She and the guitar are long gone now, lesson learned. I've acquired other LPs over time but I miss that old Ibanez which was great in its own right and better than some Gibsons I've played.
@trevor4533
@trevor4533 Год назад
There was a lawsuit filed in the Philadelphia Federal Court (Gibson Vs. Elger Co. June 28th 1977) but by the time the lawsuit was actually filed, Ibanez had already redesigned the headstock so it was moot.
@markpell8979
@markpell8979 Год назад
@@trevor4533 Interesting, I knew it didn't go to court but not that a suit was actually filed though. Thanks. My guitar had the classic open book headstock and the 'diamond' inlay was reversed but it had CUSTOM on the truss cover, engraved just like on a Gibson LP. If I was Gibson I suppose that would annoy me too. Guitar trivia: if you push a Schecter headstock (not all models) end to end against a Gibson's they fit almost like puzzle pieces. A cryptic jab at Gibson by World Music Inc. I guess.
@curtisy6234
@curtisy6234 Год назад
I'm a guitar player and a tech and a friend of mine who is a recording artist has a lot of great instruments and he has the same model as the one in your video. His has Different pickups, the stock ones I'm pretty sure.. I had to set it up and did some fret work on it and it sounded and played just like my friends les Paul studio
@richwallace6854
@richwallace6854 Год назад
Yeah, I own two "Law Suit" Ibanez. One "Les" copy. Mine is a ' 59 er" with "super 80's" pickups. the other is Strat copy with a large head stock. I played the Strat on stage for about 15 yrs. Iused my 100w Fender twin for my amp. This is a fantastic sounding setup.
@stephenmarsh3986
@stephenmarsh3986 Год назад
I had one in solid black. The body had a pressed ply top hence the lightness. Nice guitar. Wish I still had it 😢
@davidpaul6656
@davidpaul6656 Год назад
About a year ago I bought a '79 Memphis set neck Les Paul copy off Reverb. I originally bought it for nostalgic reasons, because it was the exact model my Dad bought me when I was 15. Wow was I surprised how good it played when I got it! The original pickups were crap so I replaced them with a set of T-Type pickups from Pariah Pickups. (based on Gibson 70s T- Tops) Man do I LOVE this guitar!! I actually play it more than my 2008 Gibson Les Paul Standard! My original Memphis wasn't as good as this one. It had issues with the neck so the strings were kinda high and I remember having to wrestle with it. 😅 Plus I was a newbie so I didn't know about having the action set, etc. But anyway... I'm so glad I bought this one!!
@seanpollock5300
@seanpollock5300 Год назад
I have a aria TA hollow body and PE aria Les Paul both with the pointed headstock. Both early 80's . The PE is my go to electric every time . The TA has upgraded tuners pick ups , but PE bog standard, solid as a rock ,
@GerarddeSouza-yt3fc
@GerarddeSouza-yt3fc Год назад
My first guitar I bought in ‘78 was a tele copy, I believe made by Ibanez branded “Northern” on its headstock. I was not sophisticated in my understanding of how guitars are built, but between me and my friends we certainly were under no illusion that these were the same quality as the originals. Maybe in hindsight, we see now that they weren’t as bad as we thought they were, but they were never comparable to the originals. We bought them because we wanted to LOOK like we were playing the originals. I can safely guess that today’s Epiphones and Squires are closer in quality to their higher priced big brother guitars
@davidwood351
@davidwood351 Год назад
I’m a big fan of Greco lawsuit era guitars, I have 4 of them. I believe they were made by Fujigen Matsumoto, Japan
@Mr.Saltwater
@Mr.Saltwater Год назад
You would be correct sir!
@jesselucero8503
@jesselucero8503 Год назад
I have a 1989 pre lawsuit Washburn WP50 in mint condition. Was passed down through family. Amazing quality and weighs a ton!
@rockrollresale2668
@rockrollresale2668 Год назад
I have a off branded clownburst custom that kills. I grabbed it cheap off eBay. I noticed the star tuners so I new it was an Ibanez build. Crazy quality. Brass nut. It has a wrap around and tune-o-matic installed. 50s neck profile.
@jamesosterberg2510
@jamesosterberg2510 Год назад
High end Japanese stuff from 70's - 80's are great ! I have a 77 Aria Pro II Les Paul Standard from Matsumoku Factory, and it's a cool guitar !! High end Aria Pro II from Matsumoku are usually less famous than Greco or Tokai, but they are nice instruments !!
@lamblore5639
@lamblore5639 Год назад
I have myself a 1981-82 Hondo Les Paul, i've had it for close to 30 years and i love it
@jonnieguitar5737
@jonnieguitar5737 Год назад
I have a 76 Ibanez Destroyer. Same one that Edward VH used on VHll. What a cool guitar. Johnny Depp had one onstage. Pete Thorn has a video playing his.......nice!
@peterschmidt9942
@peterschmidt9942 Год назад
I owned an Ibanez SG lawsuit in brown (could have been faded red too) when I first started playing guitar. You could pick these up for a couple hundred bucks (think I bought it early 90's). It needed a re-fret and also the fretboard flattened from the wear (which I did). I remember the pickups were muddy as shit and I didn't know enough about guitars at the time, I just know it didn't sound great but played pretty good after the re-fret. I ended up selling it a few years later. Although I still own an Ibanez double neck lawsuit SG. It needs a re-fret as well but I kept this one because the pickups sound amazing in it. I bought it in the late 90's for about $500AU and never been bothered to pull the pickups to see if they were original or after market. I remember playing it in the store and even with the crappy rusted strings sounded pretty good. Its chalk and cheese compared to the other guitar. BTW If you check out some of the aussie musicians around the late 70's and early 80's, you can find clips of a lot of them playing these Ibanez lawsuit guitars when they were starting out.
@ericvituccimusic
@ericvituccimusic Год назад
I have a 76 Ibanez Les Paul custom, My Bridge pickup died a long time ago but replaced that. The neck is super fast, its not quite the same as my Les Paul Traditional but it fun and has its own thing going. It always gets comments at gigs.
@j_freed
@j_freed Год назад
I love everything about that 1979 Les Paul standard, by the way… And it sounds like a beast. 👍
@malcolmhardwick4258
@malcolmhardwick4258 Год назад
You need to get lte 70s early 80s Greco or Tokai. Navigator is real top stuff. There were many names with various quality levels and specs.
@JoeHakos
@JoeHakos Год назад
Obviously quality control was a NEW CONCEPT for Ibanez back in the last quarter of the 20th.
@72Z15SS
@72Z15SS Год назад
My first Bass was an Ibanez copy of a Fender Jazz Bass. Wish I still had it knowing what they might be worth in todays market. I purchased it from Medley Music in Bryn Mawr Pa. back in the early 80's.
@pacwest1000
@pacwest1000 6 месяцев назад
My first guitar was a 76' Ibanez sunburst Les Paul - absolutely beautiful - I've been looking for one, they come up from time to time - the one's i've found are either pounded or modified.
@bernhardnizynski4403
@bernhardnizynski4403 Год назад
If the guitar body etc are OK, it is easy to fix the pickups and wiring?
@ubiquity069
@ubiquity069 Год назад
I only play 70/80's Japanese guitars nowadays. Can't beat them !
@MickH60
@MickH60 Год назад
Me too, all Les Pauls
@ernestschultz5065
@ernestschultz5065 Год назад
If the guitar still played in the middle position it might just be a bad solder joint in the switch. You can test the pickup itself at the points where the opposite ends of the coil wire are soldered to the base of the pickup.
@iodinmonoxide6286
@iodinmonoxide6286 Год назад
It'll be so cool to see it functioning at its best.
@edwardhanson3664
@edwardhanson3664 Год назад
I have an early Pan, a Hummingbird copy I bought in 1972. Except for a couple of minor issues, it was a pretty decent guitar and I still have it. A couple of years later Pans were nothing but toys.
@dennisellis968
@dennisellis968 Год назад
A buddy of mine still has his cherry burst/ sun burst , with the old head stock. Take'er easy R.B.
@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar Год назад
Thats rad I was trying to find one with the old headstock but had no luck.
@birdman316
@birdman316 Год назад
sweet guitar bro! hope you get it sorted out soon!
@timchalmers1700
@timchalmers1700 Год назад
I have one of the early Japanese made Alvarez acoustic guitars from 1970 . It was made as a copy of the Gibson Dove. It's not super valuable, but it plays, looks and sounds magnificent.
@dbb124
@dbb124 Год назад
@Robert Baker That’s a poor example of an Ibanez Les Paul. The pickups are stock. What you really want is an Ibanez model 2650 or 2651. Those are the set neck copies with maple caps, as good or better than a Gibson from the same era. They are rare though. I have one of each and would be willing to sell you the 2651. It is the same burst as your guitar in this video. It is stock with Super 70’s pickup. Let me know if you are interested.
@ratwynd
@ratwynd Год назад
I own a 1972 Aria Pro II TA-70 with factory DiMarzio pups. It is very much like a ES339 in style and size but not a clone. It plays and sounds as good as my 2014 Gibson ES335 Cherry Dot. I also have a 1977 Takamine F400 12 string, a Lawsuit-era near copy of the D12-28 that I also own. It is not as good as t he Martin by far but in its own right is a good instrument for what they cost in the day. The electric guitar I play most is a D'Angelico Premier DC Boardwalk with P-90 Seymour-Duncans. Under $400 used. Only original parts are the neck/body and the pups, everything else is my custom with master volume and treble bleed added. Walnut body with all black hardware. Strangely, I like it more than the ES335, which was a dream guitar for a long time. I can't give a real reason why. Maybe I just like to own something a bit different than what many others play. Never wanted an LP or a Strat particularly but tried both, they didn't stick. But I do like the Gretsch Jet, which is kinda like an LP. Go figure.
@wilfredmcgillicuddy7902
@wilfredmcgillicuddy7902 Год назад
I've had 16 Les Pauls, none of them had Gibson on the headstock. My favourits are the Classic and Vintage Series by Bacchus. Orville By Gibson reissues are great! I've had Edwards, Burny's,, Tokais and Grecos.
@claudevieaul1465
@claudevieaul1465 Год назад
I have a '78 Aria Pro II EX-850, an all original beautiful Explorer-copy with a gorgeous flame top... It is absolutely phenomenal. Never had any Gibson in my hands that came even close.
@kevinmessiah872
@kevinmessiah872 Год назад
I got a 2350 from october 77. The cease and disist letter was sent by Gibson to ibanez in spring 77, and ibanez changed their designs at the end of september 77. As far as my research on this showed (tho i looked into this 20 years ago, when i picked up mime.) Mine plays wonderfully, action you can bearly pass a rizla thru. I have chaned pickups ao a pair of emg 81s. :) Sounds incredible and thr neck is loveley. I think i prefer it to any actial gibson ive played... But hey ymmv. :)
@timmthelion
@timmthelion Год назад
I love MIJ les pauls. Owned a tokai once and currently an early 80s burny. I kinda stay away from MIJ les pauls with bolt on necks and 3 screw trussrod covers
@PhoenixGuitars
@PhoenixGuitars Год назад
Yeah those are quite good. Pickups on mine were meh. I prefer the set neck but they have my favorite knobs ever! I miss mine. Cheers!
@SuperDenglish
@SuperDenglish Год назад
I worked for the guy who was going to NY and bringing the guitars back for Ibanez. His was the owner of the CSL range and the main Ibanez dealer of the time for the UK.
@radosawpendziaek7503
@radosawpendziaek7503 Год назад
You make this guitar speak. Great ideas and uber cool growly sound from this thing.
@CroneRaven1810
@CroneRaven1810 Год назад
I have a red cherry pre lawsuit ibanez les paul from 1975, MIJ, super 70s pickups. Open book headstock. The quality and sound are amazing. The neck is ridiculous as well. One of my favourites of all time. I have done a few guitar covers with it. No wonder people started to notice Japanese copies back in the day and Gibson suing of course xD
@fp3359
@fp3359 14 дней назад
I'm sooo happy with my Ibanez Vintage 950 from 1975; bought it absolute new at Stafhorst in Utrecht - Holland in '76. Its a Martin copy with mahoghany back, neck headstock - rosewood fingerboard & sides on top massive Sitka spruce. Superb playability, slim neck with low action. . Its not for sale; I hope to take it with me beyond Heavens Door.
@shaneturch2334
@shaneturch2334 Год назад
The 70’s and early 80’s Ibanez are incredible guitars. I own a ‘81 AR300 that I’d put up against any Les Paul. I also own a ‘83 RS1000 which is killer.
@roymartin500
@roymartin500 Год назад
Dang Robert, that's too bad! That would've been cool to see that get a work over by Sweetwater then put up into a contest with your Gibson. Glad you got the easy return though. I found a early 70s Greco LP Custom Copy in Cherry Sunburst a Swap Meet in San Diego in 2000. Unfortunately, I didn't know what I had and since it was somewhat defective like the Ibanez you bought, I sold it for cheap. That's why I can emphasize. Thanks!
@Addam1978
@Addam1978 Год назад
I had a Memphis Les Paul Copy with a set neck. Great playing and sounding guitar. It was heavy though.
@mnmstoy5
@mnmstoy5 Год назад
I have a Premier pancake LP. Birdseye maple cap. I assume from the 70's The humbuckers even has the maple spacer in it with Original case. Never seen another one. My 1982 Burny LP Custom all mahogany. The black paint was scratched bad with a semi cracked headstock. Sanded off the black. and my 2013 Gibson LP Standard long neck tenant. My go to LP is my Burny. Acoustically sounds amazing. Feels great. Was just looking at the comments. still have to watch your Video.
@marksheefel3796
@marksheefel3796 Год назад
I still have my Ibanez 1977Custom Les Paul!! I paid $240 dollars for it! It is in perfect condition & plays awesome!! The Gibson Les Paul at time was going for about $1000.00 bucks!! Rock on 🤘
@chrisgardner7418
@chrisgardner7418 Год назад
I have a 70’s Lotus les Paul copy that plays amazing. I love it.
@JimHabash
@JimHabash Год назад
Robert, that looks exactly like my Vantage guitar, it's identical except mine has a phase switch. It's also fabulous for a Left Handed guitar. Do you know anything about Vantage guitars? Mine is excellent, I bought it in Steubenville, Ohio in 1981 where the guy had a Black LH Gibson for 500, and the Vantage for 275. I felt the Vantage played better so I took it. It also looked exactly like a Jimmy Page Les Paul, so I went with my gut. I was 17 back then and didn't know any better. I love this guitar, and swear by it.
@Dav2112
@Dav2112 Год назад
I've got a Japanese Tokai Love Rock, love that guitar.
@joeydurant6267
@joeydurant6267 Год назад
Had an Electra old boy sg that was one of the nicest sg's I've ever played... Had an Ibanez pickup with the "hand with butterfly wings" logo and man.... Hate that that got gone.
@jeremysummerrell8210
@jeremysummerrell8210 Год назад
I had a ibanez super 70s les paul, still miss it , was a very good copy of the real thing except for the scroll headstock , , must say had a gibson paf in Bridge position , , ,
@burnoutzzz
@burnoutzzz Год назад
I have an 82 blue Vantage FV-575 gibson style flying v from the Matsumoku factory (same factory that made Aria, Electra, Some old epiphones, etc) and it's my best axe. Was my dream guitar as Jeff Waters from Annihilator had a few of them. Quite a few parts were changed out when I got it but it at least has the original bridge pickup and it rips! Made from Japanese ash, heavy as fuck, and a bolt on neck with a kinda weird profile but it fits my hands perfectly. Also weirdly enough they have 3 strap pins total lmao.
@spacewanderer1
@spacewanderer1 Год назад
I have a post-lawsuit 1978 Ibanez CN-100 and it's a real gem.
@benrobinson3438
@benrobinson3438 Год назад
I inherited my great-grandfather's old Ibanez acoustic that is a copy of a Gibson Hummingbird. I don't know what year it's from but it has the open book headstock and is SUPER boomy! Unfortunately you can tell the nut is not centered correctly and it does not play in tune past the 5th fret. Not planning on ever getting rid of it though just because of the sentimental value.
@kirkscobey3031
@kirkscobey3031 Год назад
I had an Aria Pro from 1981 that was awesome. I’ve only owned oneGibson (Smartwood) and although it was a good guitar I was just as happy with my Epiphones. Never owned a bad one
@gsbguitarsgsb679
@gsbguitarsgsb679 Год назад
I had one of those, back in 1979. It was a gold top. I sold it in 1986 but it was my gigging work horse for several years. Great guitar for less than a Gibson back then. I never even new it was a law suit guitar until after I sold it.
@kudos4201
@kudos4201 Год назад
I bought a korean made tokai love rock les paul in cherry burst. my goodness it is a beautiful and fantastic sounding and playing guitar. had to get it imported. ive never actually tried a gibson, but i cant imagine a standard would be better than this. the craftmanship is excellent except for a few scuff marks since its a 90s model.
@jerrylong4651
@jerrylong4651 Год назад
Greco superreals are what you wanna look at! those are my favorite.
@austinknowlton1783
@austinknowlton1783 Год назад
I got the course last week bro, and saw your response to me about the clinic tomorrow. What time will it be? Sorry, haven't had time to check out the course yet. I have a Penco acoustic from 1974. Fantastic sounding guitar, copy of a D18 Martin from the same company that made Ibanez, Hoshino Gakki. Ibanez was their West Coast brand, and Penco on the East Coast. There was a third brand but I can't recall it right now. Have a good one bro.
@rikkr1307
@rikkr1307 Год назад
I bought a IYV LP copy, it's a dark flamed emerald green front and back, action is low, didn't break the bank and it plays, sounds and sustains quite nicely. Best of all I didn't have to get into a lawsuit in order to have it. 😂
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