The half price VESPA - Sym Fiddle IV 125 - Review 

You got a great deal on it!

It's a good choice. If it's available in your country go for the liquid cooled version because it also has ABS. If not this air-cooled version will do the job nicely.

@@RideWithAlex Thank you for the advice, I will do that! 🙂

My pleasure 🙂

I wish we could get the Liquid cooled version in the UK. I have the Fiddle 2 125cc and its been 10 years without any worry at all so definitely recommend this bike to folks. any dealers wishing to send the Liquid Cooled over to the uk, I would buy it :)

@@minimad8793 Good to have another data point - all I've ever heard about SYM is that they're seemingly better built than even Vespa (being Italian and all). Final QC isn't that great it seems, but if you get a bike that isn't a lemon from the dealer, you shouldn't have any issues for years

@@minimad8793 really good to hear about the reliability of these scooters, so many horror stories from Royal Alloy and Lambretta owners.

@@crankine77 its all about keeping on top of the service schedules and also changing the wear and tear items when they need to be. Not sure if relevant, but I only use the one fuel garage to fill the bike so may help a smidge lol. Seriously though, if you look after something, it will look after you, simples :)

Thank you 😁

:)))

Depends where you live but here in Romania parts availability is very good.

I've personally seen Fiddle, sym scooters and Lance, with 20,000 and over 30,000 US Miles on them. they last...

That's an awesome price :D

Thank you 😁

Being 1.87 tall also, riding a SYM MMBCU as commuting vehicle now. It is much bigger and more powerful. If you can get it in the region you live, it would be a decent choice.

I know, western Europe gets the liquid cooled version

Very close in design

@@RideWithAlex Except it's made of plastic not sheet metal. Big difference.

I really try with the budget that i have to get decent audio, no point in making a video if no one can understand what I'm saying :))

With pleasure :)

Din păcate în regiunea noastră se aduce doar cel răcit pe aer și fără ABS, cel cu răcire pe lichid și ABS se importa doar în tarile vestice.

It's is unjustifiably expensive.

Same here in the US. As much as I'd love to have a GTS, can't justify the 8k that these dealer's charge. And that's just the sticker price

My pleasure :)

My pleasure, glad this video helped you!

Yes, SYM has assembly plants in Taiwan, China and Vietnam.

@@RideWithAlex Supposedly the engine is made in Taiwan, and some other parts, maybe transmission, with assembly in other countries now. I would doubt that a Taiwan manufacturer would build a full factory in China, since the risk of political shutdown would be unreasonable. Piaggio builds in Vietnam now also. Someone in Taiwan or the Mainland want to reply ?

The difference is not that big, but currently the husky will arrive late in 2022, so for this summer there will be no husky, after I get to ride it I can say if it's better than the jetx. In terms of wheel size the difference between 14 and 13 is small.

Hey I bought a JetX in October but am still in the break-in period, currently at 440 km. Did a ~130 km tour yesterday in the Austrian countryside, and I can definitely say it is too slow for our 100 km/h 2-lane country roads, both in flat ground and especially in mountainous areas. It really struggles up something like 10% grade, slows down to maybe 70 km/h wide-open throttle. In the flat it did ~95 km/h when I'm in full superbike racer boy style tuck, which is highly uncomfortable ;). All the speeds are verified with GPS since the tach is way off - 100 km/h is ~114 indicated... I have heard that the first oil change and valve adjustment works wonders for this engine and really opens it up so it goes quite a bit faster and has much more torque. The reason I got it though is the efficiency around town (traded in my gas-guzzling Kawasaki Versys 650, ~10L/100km in the city...) and the incredibly comfortable cruiser-style seating position with legs forward. I had to buy different mirrors since I only saw my shoulders in the originals. My fuel consumption on that overland mostly high-speed and hilly ride was 2.45L/100km which I find incredible for the performance. However if this has to be 125cc (in compliance with EU A1 license class), I'd go with something that is the EU legal max performance - Zontes has some very good, very affordable models, or Motron X-Nord 125 (also a pretty good ADV).

@@Mil-Keeway I know someone with a jetx that has a couple of thousands km with it and now that the engine is well broken in the acceleration and pick-up is much better then the ones i ride (brand new out of the box) and he managed to get it up to 120km/h indicated so probably 105 gps speed. But if you want to go long distance it'll cruise at 85-90km/h comfortably all day long. The mirrors part, i know a lot of people complained, i would just put the same mirrors that are on the jet14 or symphony st :)))

Sym and Kymco have always worked in silence and that's why people don't know much about them.

@@RideWithAlex nuff said

Going out for drinks instead of coffee is something I can get behind :)))). Btw how bad was my Italian in the first part? Real curios to hear from someone who actually speaks the language.

@@RideWithAlex Not bad actually, just with a slight accent. Very nice 🙂

@@marcotiano7254 good enough for me :))

Thank you!

Mersi :D

They have the same frame and geometry, they are pretty much identical.

@@RideWithAlex I like the looks of the fiddle more, but on the other hand I prefer the wider bars of the Jet Rx, but the RX has only single rear shock...do you thing it matters? Thank you!

@@markostano5222 the rear shock is not a problem, between one stronger or 2 weaker they do the same job

Thank you! Greetings from Slovakia 🇸🇰

Every 2500km

Thanks@@RideWithAlex

Givi has a windscreen option for the fiddle and you can also check out: www.easyparts.com/Windscreen-FABBRI-Fiddle-IV-125i-E5-2020-p33695072 this is a great web site for sym accessories and spare parts

@@RideWithAlex I’ve bought my own pasta rocket, thanks for these reviews they really helped me make my mind up. Question please, how easy is it to fit the crash bars and windscreen?

@@crankine77 windscreen is easy, for the crash bars you have to cut hols in the existing fairings but you have instructions, it's not hard just time consuming.

@@RideWithAlex thanks for the reply, cheers 🍻

Hi. Did you manage to find and buy the bars ? I have been searching for weeks now and I have been unable to.

An experienced scooter mechanic should have the answer, I'm still figuring this out myself :)

Press towards you it flashes, press away it's high beam selector.

It depends on your local market. Ask your local dealer how much parts cost because I know the prices here in Romania but I have no ideea where you live.

@@RideWithAlex Does sym charge ridiculous prices for spare parts in romania? That should give a good indication of their buisiness practices. Piaggio does the same, 300 dollars for a fuel pump , lol

@@jeremyniels it's much cheaper then Piaggio here.

@@RideWithAlex Thanks for that information!

I don't understand why because you have the fiddle with the same engine :/

@@RideWithAlex i like the big 16 " Wheels , runs more stable on bad roads we have a lot of that here

www.easyparts.com

Thanks brother!

In miles my 169cc Symphony ST is up to about 29.000 miles and plan many more.

@RideWithAlex yes sir. Sanyang Motors (Sym) is a excellent product. Just as good as Honda or Yamaha

I don't think the suspension has been improved from the fiddle 3

​@@RideWithAlexOne last question.. my old fiddle 3 125 can reach 120km/h speed downhill,105 ön straight.. can fiddle 4 does the same you reckon? Do you thing engine is the same?

@@yf48353 169cc engine makes 12.1 hp and 9.2 lbft idk if it the same as yours

Dang it, forgot about that one 😂😂😂

I'm happy with myne and you can check my channel I didn't baby my symphony st

Sym and Kymco are the two main companies in Taiwan, when it comes to scooters. It's important to know, that in Taiwan scooters are all over the place since the 60s, and what people demand over there, is a reliable machine. Both companies totally deliver on that side, they are even considered to be better from a technical pov than the italian competition. Add to that, that they both come up now with beautiful (and, as stated in this video, almost identical to the Vespa)) retro design, and there you go. In short: if you want a Vespa, but better and cheaper, buy a Sym.

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Thank You for the fast feedback.. I'm going to order my Fiddle tomorrow :) Weekend placut!

In Vietnam they mod the exhaust intake to a bgger diameter and drill hole in the muffler to make it flow and sound better

Without any kind of problem!

@@RideWithAlex thank you boss🙏✌️

Yes it does

@@RideWithAlex Thank you sir👋

175cm tall

@@RideWithAlex i’m 168. you think it runs big?

@@eren2430 you'll be fine on it

Se misca si se simte 90% ca si JET 4 RX cu care am deja video facut. Este acelasi cadru si acelasi motor de 49cc.

There is something to like about the old design, much more rounded and soft.

For the same reason people buy Harleys

@@marcotiano7254 but Harley is stylish!! Vespas and super Cubs belongs to the middle ages 🤣

@@takis4954 cafe racer ,etc,etc,Wrangler,Defender,retro,old ,for the real men retro type,dont care ,way you need a SF scooter ,its just a scooter not a race bike,way not look cool and retro. You can have a 100 hp scooter you are not gone to look like a real racer,just an Wanna be...

Well, some people like the classic look, it reminds them of the times, when things looked normal (normal to them). When there was less weird shaped, fake looking, unnatural plastic added to everything- including cars, motorcycles, scooters - or women. When everything looked like it had a soul. Nowadays, it’s just items. Does this scooter look as good as ‘60 Vespa? Honestly, it doesn’t, but it’s trying. I would never want to own a sports bike, or a sports bike looking scooter, it’s not appealing to me one bit - but I love classic, naked motorcycles, simple, traditional shape, chrome etc. But hey, you do you - you don’t have to like the retro look, I don’t have to like the modern look. It’s all good. As long as there’s still options to choose from.

Thank you :)

If you can afford a vespa :)

About 100 km/h

I saw in a video 121km top speed!! Its real??

@@dennisolympiakos5492 maybe down hill or maybe it was modified. The oficial spec says 99km/h. But I wouldn't go over 100km/h on 12" whees it's stupid and dangerous, get something bigger if top speed is your main interest.