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Amazing news guys! @Blake, in episode 2 of Bly Manor, there'll be a frightening scene, but be brave and you'll certainly laugh your ass out of that...remember I was about to cry in fear and finished by laughing so hard I almost choked myself, lol!
I think Hugh did what any parent would do when the other parent tries to murder their children. Get the kids to safety before you try and deal with the spouse. The fact that the show was not even nominated for any Emmys was a crime!
@@kflowers8276I don't have kids and I understand that as a parent or even just as a responsible adult you first priority is to get the children out of danger, then deal with the other issue. You have to use common sense and you're a better judgment
Poppy is like this because she's clinically 'insane'. It's literally the first thing we learn about her lol. And to be fair to Hugh, I think his main concern was getting the kids away from her seeing as how she just tried to kill two of them. 😅
I never made that connection before now. How poppy was kind influencing the mom so they both end up having similar life (and er, um, death) paths. But poppy as a ghost ended up a b*&ch, at least the mom is still a good spirit and looking out for her fam.
they are real bad at comprehending everything in every reaction ive seen. I still really like their reactions but they dont pay attention a lot of the time
In case you didn't catch it, Olivia says to Poppy she dreamed the storm where Nell was lost from episode 6. That did happen. She was confusing reality with her dreams. At the beginning, she actually "lost" time while talking to Hugh, that's why she doesn't notice him grabbing Luke from her arms. She goes in and out of consciousness. She doesn't differentiate reality from delusions. Next week, I'll post the story in your comments and explanation of each ghosts and Hills family history. And how the mechanics of time works
Hugh acted correctly in my opinion. A parent's priority is always to keep their children safe and that's what he did. He didn't know the extent of Olivia's problem. I mean, she starts acting crazy, lies about leaving, and then kills a kid? I would also think about keeping my children safe before going to check on her
Mr Dudley or mrs Dudley said that poppy was insane her and William met in a mental hospital so I think she's just always been crazy as fuck. I love when hazel says "what can I do for you dear" lol she's sounds like such a sweet old lady lol
Katie Parker's performance as Poppy was outstanding. The fact that you never see her blink, that I've noticed anyway, makes her even more unsettling. Poppy was clinically insane. Mrs. Dudley tells Steve when he finds the dresser that she met her husband William Hill in the asylum.
I just love that it was not another scenario of the father being the real killer as a result of gaslighting twist. It was just about a haunted house haunting a mother with her deepest fears, losing her children.
I'm pretty convinced she did, I wouldn't be surprised if she was slowly poisoning her boy with arsenic or strychnine I believe it can cause paralysis even blindness in the end.
@@Christian_Adonis1 I looked at some forums and there's other theories that think that Hazel and Poppy murdered each other's children over contentious dispute of the family fortune...alleging Hazel pushed Poppy's daughter into wet cement...so it's not clear 🤷♀️
Before hill house came out, a used named count_to_seven uploaded stories on to reddits no sleep forum about the hill family, it's related to the show. It's worth reading
@@bluegypsy71according to the actress that played Hazel she was the lady that took Abigail to safety after she was killed.. She was a woman who was dealing with two mentally insane people.. But she was a criminal who was smuggling alcohol. Her son died in the basement..
He does seem to re-use the cast as much as possible, which I love because he always knows how to pick all the good ones. Even the kids are very impressive actors - it's very rare that the kids bring it their all in a role and don't break the immersion, but in this show they are top-notch.
I think we also have to appreciate the fact that Hugh has never seen a ghost at this point, nor does he believe in any supernatural phenomena - he has no idea what Olivia is on about or why she seems to be behaving this way - He knows she’s going through something so he told her to get away and he did his best to manage five kids on his own while working, but SHE came back , she didn’t want to go away, so Hugh’s view, his wife held a screwdriver to his throat, killed a child and tried to kill THEIR children. She is a serious threat to the family and she absolutely cannot come first right now.
and it’s like the eighties or so, so mental health wasn’t talked about. he probably thought she was having some sort of mental break, but it’s not like he would have known how to help her. and there’s the stigma of taking her to the doctor, and then possibility she just gets thrown in a mental institution. i don’t blame how he acted at all. steve said hugh didn’t do anything to save her, but it’s not like hugh knew how. steve loves to talk about how his mom was mentally ill, but forgets that that wasn’t common phrase but a stigmatized one. hugh did all he knew how.
The Mom's mind was obviously lost because even leaving the house didn't help her come back to reality. The Dad needed to get the kids away from her ASAP. Taking her with them would've kept the kids in danger.
It always breaks me to rewatch the scene where the twins talk about the future. Most people catch that Luke's talk about being so afraid he'd put poison in his veins is meant to be his drug addiction. But little Nell says that her hearts breaks and she cannot feel happiness. And that talks about her depression. It made me realize that depression does indeed come across as like you cannot feel happy although you know you should.
i remember the abigail reveal flooring me too, they set that up really well lmao. the end of episode gets me every time, it’s so lovely and so, so sad. it’s one of my favorite scenes in this show.
Mike Flanagan is such an astounding storyteller... absolutely nothing is accidental, but nothing could be told with such perfection and precision without an amazing cast. Also, with Poppy as a wife, do you blame Willy for bricking himself away from her?
This show is so good because it made the audience just as tone-deaf to poor Luke as everyone else in the house. Through 9 episodes no one believes that Abigail is real even though he constantly tells them over and over again. It is a revealing look at how many times children are shut down, dismissed, and ignored but we always tell them to "Come talk to us." What's the point? We don't listen anyway, but we are surprised when our kids turn to drugs to escape a reality that doesn't welcome or listen to them.
yes!! the audience always gets irritated at the dad telling the kids that the ghosts and weird stuff is all in their heads or has a logical explanation, but the audience turns around, sees abigail, and says to luke “abigail is a ghost”. this part of the show is so good because it reminds the audience that they would do the same because the audience already HAS. it adds on to luke’s trauma because in a metaphorical way, we -the audience- basically say to his face that we don’t believe him; and we actually SEE abigail which the others do not. tldr; the audience is luke’s biggest op 🤭
The woman who takes Abigail's hand is Hazel Hill. Just, the young version. You see her in a photo on the mantle in her room when Mrs. Dudley talks about the cup of stars to Nell in ep 5.
The desperation in her “I need to wake up” because she thinks once she does the color/her happiness will come back and she’ll be out of the darkness/depression crushes me. I think Poppy represents her mind and when you’re depressed you can’t always trust the things your mind is telling you but unfortunately sometimes you can’t control it no matter how hard you try. And then the ending?? “How could we” 😭 This show still moves me no matter how many times I watch it. I hope you guys do decide to watch more of Mikes series and movies if you haven’t already.
Olivia and Hughs last lines were tragic. Such a great way to symbolize her death and their departure from the house and in life. Can't wait for the finale!
I feel like Igli is the closest to me watching this show - I'm also in the 'one of the best shows I've ever seen' camp, and I can tell you, it's BETTER on rewatch. When you can focus on the heart of the story, not on background ghosts or scares, and notice all the details and foreshadowing, it's amazing. And this episode is a large part of that, because when you have the hindsight as to what Olivia was going through so much of it hits differently, same as everything about the Bent-Neck Lady does after Nellie's episode. And even though Katie Parker as Poppy has a relatively small role on this show, she's still one of my favourite things about it. Her monologue about her kids dying still gives me goosebumps.
There are three moments in this show that immediately make me cry. One is when little Nelly says “nobody could see me…” at the end of the two storms episode. One is in the finale that I’m not going to spoil. And one is the end of this episode… “you guys go on without me.” “How could we?” 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I don't know if they ever clarified who takes Abigail's hand at the end; I think the main theories are that it's either a young Hazel Hill or her grandmother (Mr. Dudley's mother).
blake you have to understand hugh’s first instinct was to get the kids to safety; which is what he should’ve done. he doesn’t know what the house is doing to her or the extent of how it’s preying on her so he didn’t know what was happening only that he needed to get them away first. poppy killed her own kids; so she’s using olivia’s vulnerability and sensitivity to prey on that and have her think that killing her own kids is the only way to keep them safe. (corey picked up that it was the boy in the wheelchair but he was also the one banging on the wall in shirley’s room.) poppy’s truly the only evil one because you’re right; everyone is either a spectator or tried to help like hazel. (william didn’t do anything all he wanted was his hat and the others didn’t cause any physical harm.) abigail is real. if you listened closely to mrs. dudley, she talks about not letting her daughter out/come to the house. the show does a good job at making her seem like a ghost because luke really is the only one who saw her and spoke to her prior to this episode. so liv actually did kill her.
One note, Poppy wasn't evil, she was insane and the house fed on that and corrupted her, just like the house corrupted Olivia by using Poppy. Both Poppy, Mr. Hill (who was also on the asylum and endedup locking himself inside the walls), Nell, Luke and to some extent Theo were the most vulnerable due to being more "sensitive" and the house preyed on that. The only pure evil thing is the house itself. The people who lived there and died were willing and unwilling victims of the house.
@@daytrippera the biggest reason why nell and luke were the ones “chosen” was because they were young enough. the other siblings were already “tainted” by the world aka it was too late for olivia to save them. but luke and nell were only six, and they weren’t “tainted” yet
I think if we go back to the little poem Poppy tells Hugh in the next episode we can pinpoint the moment the house became so predatory. The first Hill ended up killing the original owners of the house, all of them, before taking up residents there. I think that tainted the house, and the Hills forever.
Guys, Abigail was mentioned by Mr. Dudley in an earlier episode. The Dudleys had a second child after the first one died. Abigail was assumed to be a ghost child by the family. This episode is when we find out that she is real. Then, Olivia kills her.
@@tealhiid yeah, i was so surprised that the guys didn’t realize that abigail was real (at least that’s what it seemed like to me) especially corey since he’s so observant haha
I understand what Blake is saying about Haugh going back for Olivia but his first priority in that moment was to get the kids to safety, so I don't fault him for just leaving
There is nothing that says the woman was Abigail mom. As far as we know here, the woman was just someone part of the house & now Abigail is part of it to...
Actually, that's Abigail's grandmother. One of the parents (the dad, I think) told them a story about how she would wander in the woods and was chased by dogs even though there weren't any.
That’s why dialogue is so important. You have to listen to Mr. Dudley’s monologue and you pick up on it. That being said I don’t think I realized it until the third time I watched it.
The problem with Emmy's is that, at the time this aired, Netflix series weren't eligible for an Emmy, because Netflix isn't a TV show; it's a streaming show, so it didn't qualify. I think a year (or two) after this show, people agreed that streaming shows should be rated in the same way as TV shows on regular channels and the eligibility for streaming shows were included for the Emmy's. So in that sense this show paved the way for other shows. Also, if you like these kinds of shows, you may want to watch _Midnight Mass_ later, which is another Mike Flanagan Netflix series. That one doesn't have nearly as many jumpscares as Hill House, but it has the same disheartening, oppressive and suspenseful atmosphere, not to mention the stellar acting, storytelling and dialogues. Blake would've appreciated it if you'd watched that one instead of Hill House ;) I personally had trouble getting through Bly Manor, but perhaps that's more because that storyline and characters didn't connect as much with me as Hill House and Midnight Mass.
Poppy was already insane before she was in the house. This story was told by Mrs. Dudley to Liv. She was in an institution and met her husband there. Poppy is the only evil spirit in the house. The others do nothing or even try to help. But you can't really say evil with Poppy, because she's just crazy. Easy game for the house. The conversation between Liv and Mrs. Dudley at the beginning of the episode should show what happens when you don't live out your emotions, but swallow them. At some point, everything just bursts out at once and it rains stones. That was a reflection of what the father is responsible for. He remains silent all these years with the result that everything has gotten worse, which led to the death of Nell, to Luke's drug addiction, Stevens fear of loss loved ones to mental sickness, Sherryl becomes the ice queen and Theo builds walls. In his effort to protect his children through silence, the father has made everything worse. He prepared the way for the house.
Omg I had NO idea that the dad is Eliot from E.T.! His acting as a kid in that movie is so good, and it's a fun movie. Also a baby Drew Berrymore! Def worth watching as a classic
Poppy is simply the House's strongest soldier due to her insanity. Most of the ghosts are chill and just stay in the background like they literally do for most of the series.
Since I know you guys have already seen the finally, I want to explain Abigail and Poppy. For Abigail, if you were to rewatch the monologue by Mr. Dudley when he was talking to Hugh, he did say that they had a second daughter that isn't allowed at Hill House. It's pretty common for people to miss this detail. I did the first time I watched. Mr. Dudley also mentions that his mother worked at Hill House and died there. I believe that's who we see taking ghost Abigail's hand after she dies. As for Poppy, I don't think she's any more powerful than any of the other ghosts. I just think she's more menacing due to the fact that she was mentally unstable in life. If you recall Mrs. Dudley's conversation with Steve when he was checking out the dressing table he wanted to finish for his Mom, after finding the photo of Poppy in the drawer, she told him how she was clinically insane and that she and Mr. Hill had met in the insane asylum. I'm not sure, but I suspect that Poppy may have killed her own children using the same flawed reasoning she was passing on to Olivia. Great reaction, as always. Can't wait to see the finale!
the woman that takes Abigails Hand is Hazel Hill in her young form; she’s credited as such in the episode, you can see a picture of her on a mantle as well, and Mike Flanagan confirmed it in an interview. It’s pretty confusing though, I’m not even sure why the scene IS there, without the credits you‘d never know is Hazel and it has no bearing on the story that it’s her
@@RaggedyPackWill you also please do The Fall of The House of Usher after Bly Manor & Midnight Mass..? Carla Guigino (Olivia) is perfection in it! Along with the rest of the cast of course. Just discovered y’all yesterday from this Hill House reactions, y’all are great!
ET still gives me nightmares. I’m almost 35. Saw it as a super young child while hospitalized and coming out of coma after narrowly avoiding death. To say it stuck with me is an understatement. To this day, if I hear that janky alien’s voice; I immediately cry.
Oh darling! You can work with a therapist, and/or a hypnotist. It's not completely dissimilar to when you eat something and get sick and then associate the taste, smell, and/or look with that feeling! It certainly doesn't keep you from having a normal life, but that could help you move through that. 🫂🫂🫂
So incredibly stoked to watch y'all react to this one. Entirely in the past, not a bit of future timeline other than the glimpses Olivia gets. It's so good!
Remember, Poppy was in an asylum when she met her husband. The reason she's the way she is, is because she's feeding on Olivia's fears and insecurities about her children, and she switches between being old and young and beautiful to show how easy it is to manipulate people. Also, Abigail was very much a real child and the whole show does a really good job of making you think she's a ghost until the moment she starts foaming. In one episode, the housekeepers talked about how they keep her from the world to keep her safe so the only time she's out is when she sneaks out. Olivia actually kills her with the rat poison.
And Fall of the House of Usher, especially since I they were talking about Edgar Allen Poe in a different video not too long ago, so some of them will be familiar enough with the stories to pick up on the kool details.
Is Blake at least enjoying the story? Once you get past the horror aspect and jump scares, it’s a beautifully tragic story, I hope Blake’s at least enjoying those parts.
@@Raven_Luna_Tick I think you're right, I haven't seen it myself but some people say that the actress confirmed on a post on Instagram that it is in fact Hazel Hill.
I have seen a lot of reactions but I've never seen 4 people MORE CONFUSED about who Abigail actually is or if she is even real or a ghost. Lmao it's both frustrating and hilarious. Love the reactions guys.
Does remind me when we lived in Hawaii and my siblings kept talking about this little kid that would be in the house when they got home from school(we lived on military base on Oahu, so never locked doors, and their school was in our backyard, literally) and we didn't believe them until I was home sick and this little boy, waltzed in, and sat down on the chair and asked me what I was doing here. He lived a few cul-de-sacs down, and had absent minded parents. 😂
I hope this isn't a general spoiler, but for the sake of Blake's poor heart: the Nell jumpscare from the last episode was worldclass, unsurpassed (so far) in other Flanagan projects. There will be other jumpscares, but you can rest easy knowing you survived the worst (best!) one
Mr. Dudley tells Hugh about losing their first child. I think that's made Mrs. Dudley overprotective and that's why she talks that way to Olivia, unintentionally playing into her paranoia and Poppy's manipulation. The Dudley's dead child was a still born baby. Not Abigail's age. Poppy was mentally ill when she married William and came to Hill House. She tells Olivia about watching her kids die terribly. William disappeared, he being the guy who bricked himself in the wall. I think it broke her completely. Interesting side note, the way Poppy described her children's conditions and death, lines up with long term exposure to black mold, which Hugh finds in the walls of Hill House.
A cool reddit theory about Poppy is that she had a touch of what Olivia had and that's why she was committed. So, it made Poppy extremely vulnerable to the House.
i love the actress who plays poppy!!! she is in fall of the house of usher, which PLEASE add that to your list, it is my next favorite after this show!!!
I’m here and I’m so glad to see more and more people commenting! Also have any of you watched The first omen (it’s at Hulu or Netflix) Tarot Imaginary Abigail? That’s the last four horror movies I have watched.
Yeah, I wouldn’t put the mom in the car with our kids after she tried to kill them💀 I’d be terrified she’d try to jerk the wheel or kill a kid while I was too busy driving💀💀💀
I hope you'll react to one of the RU-vid videos that shows all the ghosts hidden throughout the series. This series tops anything I've ever seen, it's just so good. I'm excited for you to see the finale, but sad that it's the last one. After watching this episode I felt so bad for Olivia, the happiness she felt at the beginning, then what that house had done to her, and the sadness that took over. This wasn't her fault...this house is diseased. Great reaction guys!! ~Dawne
Poppy was already a bit off her rocker, so her and the house are perfect for each other. The ghosts are as they were in life, so Liv really was suffering from mental illness. Should be wprking outside on this lovely day, but I started watching this playlist with my coffee and now I gotta finish it. 😂
Edit: Second :D Can't wait to watch this! Watching you watching it for the first time is the closest feeling to actually watch it for the first time ♥ I remember that this episode with the future stuff blew my mind! Excellent writing again.
