Enjoying this teaching. I come from a "christian by default" background but have been covering ever since I yielded my life to Jesus Christ even though no one I knew at that time did -- because I didn't know enough about religious teachings to do anything except obey the Bible. And yes, it caused issues. It was a heavenly day when a year later I found a whole church full of people who believed this way. God is so good and faithful. After many years I did my own study using the Strong's concordance and trying to understand the Greek as best as I could. I really enjoyed doing that and am grateful for the things God taught me. Thank you for your time and teaching on this subject.
The biggest thing is that for 1900 years Christians mostly applied this teaching of headcovering not even just in church or when praying or prophesying but as a way of life. Then because it was all turned on its head in the past ~100 years that we are supposed to believe that it was all cultural?
"9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? 10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings." Jeremiah 17:8-10 (KJV)
I think it's funny that the guy preaching is currently funding robotic driven vehicles and advancements to the electrical grid to attempt to prolong the inevitable end of this modern way of living that satan and his minions have pushed onto humanity but is a bit obsessed with women wearing head coverings (which I totally believe is right for women to wear). Lukewarm is not something we should be. Go hard or go home. This guy and his "kingdom" advisers and investors have enough cold hard cash to create a bartering based community system where mammon is completely done away with but that would mean they would have to figure out how to live like humans did for thousands of years before Edison created electricity that is available to the masses and obviously that is too much work for them?
@@johnplain1546he's talking about a specific passage of Scripture prescribed to Christians. Can you provide Scripture specifically against electricity or this "modern grid" that you're referring to? (I'm not trying to be contentious but just wondering what your basis is for ranting about electricity and mammon without using any Scripture).
@@johnplain1546 this is not even to point out the fact that you've used some modern technology just to watch/comment on this video, so what are you saying, exactly?
I'm a muslim woman, living in Europe made me insecure about my headcovering because most people think it's only tradition and that it's a sign of oppression. This saddens and makes me rethink my reasons of wearing my hijab. I believe that headcovering for women isn't only for a physical or material purpose, I believe that it protects women in a way we can't see and we can't prove, women are created in way that makes them receive energy easily from others. I believe that this is a sign that protects us from not only unwanted attention from men but from the energy that comes with that kind of attention that is not good for us. this is how I see it, it must have a spiritual reason to make it an obligation. it must be for our wellbeing.
I think you are right! I am a Christian woman but you put my own thoughts in very coherent words. I just started covering more frequently within the last few months and admittedly feel much safer from unwanted attention and less 'worldly' when I do wear it.
@@lutfchehne1 yes, it really is like swimming upstream as a follower of Christ in a very 'christian' country. God bless you too and love to you in Christ Jesus.
Followers of the Way is a kind of online haven to me and to my wife. We are so thankful that there is this people in such a place as Boston and that we are connected with you via our phones and our computers. Head covering is an inextricable part of our relationship with Jesus. It has been a source of joy and pain. We cannot imagine our lives without this doctrine. Nancy would rather die than abandon her substantial covering. We appreciate these messages and thank God for your simple, humble, encouraging, and thurough-going biblical presentation of them. God bless you all.
@@johnplain1546 No, John, I don't, other than the fact that I don't cover my head as Paul directed them not to cover theirs. Nor does Nancy dress like the Corinthian church women other than that she covers her head as Paul gave instruction.
God bless your wife!! WOW!! It doesn't take a scholar to know when the Lord speaks. It takes a child of God ❤ This past Sunday was the first time I covered. I felt comfortable in my hand made head covering. I cut up an old skirt with a nice fabric and pattern and wrapped it into a headband style covering. It felt as good as any act of obedience to the Lord feels..AMAZING!!! This tradition has profound significance for believers. We are spirit and represent the truth of order in God's creation as women who are distinct, meaningful and unique as those made after man. Not to be able to see the beauty of this spiritual tradition has caused much harm. I am glad the Lord showed me what to do, and even if everyone else rejects head covering as a "culture or legal" practice, I am going to to continue to follow Yeshua. He has spoken. Clearly. God is faithful and will fill in these gaps for us as we earnestly seek to uphold truth.
I would like to add my two cents here after reading this discussion. First of all I believe we should follow the teaching in 1st Corinthians 11. The main problem here is the misunderstanding of 1st Corinthians 11 altogether. I also have made an intense study of this passage, and the obvious conclusion is that Paul was referring to long hair being the covering. The first thing one should take notice is the lack of wording required to conclude that a veil is being referred to here. The word veil or cloth is not in the text if we read from the King James version. If you read from the “modern” versions then you might get that view but not from the Textus Receptus. I would like for you to reread the verses that allegedly refer to a veil which is 4-7 and 13. In those verses we read the words, cover, uncovered and not covered. According to scholars these are used as adverbs. Like if you were to say I am going to cover my feet. No one should be thinking of a veil just the action of being covered. What is missing in these verses are nouns that would prove the idea of veils. Since we should not be assuming anything we should be asking the question what is the thing that a woman should be covered WITH based on the passage ALONE? So if you do the math you would find that Paul refers to hair directly 3 times and then indirectly 4 times with the words shorn and shaven. So if there is no noun for the word veil or cloth yet there are 7 instances of idea of hair, then what are we to conclude? That Paul is referring to hair whether it be short or long. But the counterargument would be that Paul is allegedly telling women to put something on. But that is not exactly true it says a woman should be covered, but he is referring to long hair based on the surrounding verses. But what about that a woman ought to be covered when praying or prophesying? The assumption is a that Paul was referring to only two instances which is not true he was merely giving us two examples. This also applies to men about being uncovered. Evidence of this is written in the forgoing verses. Paul writes that men ought not to cover because he is the image and glory of God. And then Paul goes into how woman was made for man and is the glory of the man. So it would seem that man shouldn’t be covered at any time if he is the glory and image of God. Paul also mentions that the mere observation of a praying woman should make us note how uncomely (unappealing in appearance) for a woman to be uncovered. Paul states this in a way that it should be obvious to anyone that she looks off in verse 13. He does this again in verse 14 about how shameful it looks if a man has long hair. He says it this way… Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? KJV So this judgement that we should make is exclusively based on observation of an “uncovered” woman as well as a long haired man. Two consecutive questions both appealing to something innate or within us. Paul is in essence saying that it should be obvious to see that something is wrong or off. So how is it that for the women we are somehow to know within us that a woman would be unappealing in appearance without a manufactured veil? That does not seem logical especially since the word veil is never mentioned. Unless that is not what Paul is meaning but rather that if the woman was not covered in long hair (meaning her hair is short) doing something holy or godly LIKE praying or prophesying. I think most people can relate that looking at a woman with short hair does have an unappealing appearance. It naturally provokes head turns. And if there was any question Paul flat out states what he was talking about in verse 15. So the facts are that there no nouns to use as evidence of a veil. There is evidence that Paul was using praying and prophesying as examples. Paul appeals to nature and something innate within us to judge that being uncovered or covered (meaning having short hair or long hair) should be obvious to all. So this cannot make sense with a manufactured veil.
I appreciate this so much! And I think the picture you drew especially was great! Look forward to watching the last two videos and other videos. God bless you! ☀️
I've started covering a little over a month ago. I can't Biblically argue that I shouldn't. I just accepted the "culturally obsolete" argument, which I can't Biblically defend.. It's humbling for both genders, for a woman she covers her hair, or "glory", and the man takes off his headpiece that shows his position/status. Can you imagine a ruler or king, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, taking off his crown when entering into a church assembly? What an amazing image of giving God all the glory and submitting to His authority.
Wow...thank you! I am still wrestling through so much of this but this has helped me see a greater more beautiful picture. The Lord has just given me a Mennonite friend to also talk about these things. God is good! Subscribed! ☺
Thank you so much for your thorough and faithful exposition of this passage in these three sermons! It has been such a blessing to me and has answered many of my lingering questions. I also feel that I have so much more clarity as to the purpose and heart behind head covering. Again, thank you for these sermons and for taking the time to put them on RU-vid!
Thanks for all the work you put into this. This is great for my own studying and you’ve obviously put a lot of research into this and I’m sure you didn’t do it in one night. I’m looking forward to listening to more of your videos.
Yes, we need to have courage and obey Our heavenly FATHER and LORD. Here in Los Angeles, CA, we have Orthodox Jewish and their families who are proud to distinguish themselves, why not us.
After prompting from the Spirit, my husband and I have started researching this topic. Thank you for this excellent teaching. I am looking forward to the rest of the series. I also appreciated hearing children in the background!
Smile. Thank you so much for sharing this. This is amazing. I felt very called by the Lord to cover during my personal and family devotion, praying, in church, in Bible study, ect about two years ago. Thank you for speaking on this from the pulpit. It is very hard to find true biblical teaching on this. I agree that 1 Cor 11 says that a woman should cover or veil her head in public worship. The word for covering in 1 Corthians 11:4, 5,6,7, 13, is the word, katakalýptō, from katá, "down, and kalýptō, "to cover"-cover down, to make appropriate, to complete, i.e. to wear a veil. It is the same word used for the veil that separated the Holy of holies from the priests. But only in vrs 15, where Paul is giving an example from nature is a different word used, "but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering." This is different word from the others for "cover"= "peribolaion," that which is tossed around or a mantel that can be thrown around the shoulders and body (As in when a women tosses or throws her hair around). Cover in the first few verses of 1 Cor 11, should really be translated veil as that is the proper Greek word used. This is where we get the English saying, "Let your hair down." Becuase during the "sexual revolution" women let their hair down out of their buns, uncovered their hair and shook it back and forth. Which can be very alluring to man. For this same reason, as the word is actually veil, hair cannot be the covering that is talked about in the first few verses. Also, the covering as some people say is the hair, should a man be bald or take their hair off and on? No obviously not. This is why men take their hats off in church or at baseball games, as stated in the video. Plus the veil or covering is it be a symbol of us coming under God's authority to the angels. And since all women have hair, that is not a symbol. We put a covering or veil on our head as a symbol that we are coming under authority to remind the fallen, and not fallen angles that we are in obedient to God's order. (As Satan rebelled because he wanted more authority). Up until only the last two generations woman covered in Church. All of our grandmothers would have covered in church. This is why the Hutterites, Mennonites, Amish, the orthodox churches, some Catholics, a lot of African congratations, and Messiniac Beleivers, etc still cover their hair. But it is not a salvation issue, more of a blessing I find in the obedience of it, if done with a proper attitude. Also i beleive, that there is nothing wrong with humbling outselves and submitting as women. Jesus Himself humbled and submitted to God the Father, and we as beleivers are supposed to be like Chrisy. So it can be a true blessing to submit to as God calls us to. Here's some verses in the OT about head covering if anyone is interested. I hope these help. Isaiah 47:1-2. Come down and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon; sit on the ground without a throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans! For you shall no more be called tender and delicate. Take the millstones and grind flour, "put off your veil", strip off your robe, uncover your legs, pass through the rivers. (So as we can see, even virgins were to keep their heads covered and save their hair for their husbands. Otherwise it is like they are showing all their nakedness). Numbers 5:18. Then the priest shall stand the woman before the LORD, "uncover the woman’s head," and put the offering for remembering in her hands, which is the grain offering of jealousy. And the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that brings a curse. Also Genesis 20:16 says in the Hebrew Then to Sarah he said, “Behold, I have given your brother a thousand pieces of silver; indeed this is "a covering for her eyes" (to put back on her wedding covering) you before all who are with you and before everybody.” Thus she was rebuked. From what I understand In Genesis 24:65. Rebekah covers herself because the bridal price has already been paid. 2 vrs later we see Isaac take Rebekah bright away into his tent. There was no wedding ceremony. Her covering herself was an outward show of her marriage to Isaac. Since they were married he was allowed to take her right away into his tent and "uncover" her.
Thank you for typing out this well-thought comment. It has a lot of merit and convicting information regarding the headcover stated in a truthful and loving manner. I'm a woman who has been recently convicted to start covering more frequently and actually attending a Mennonite church for the first time this coming Sunday with my husband.
@@allthingsthroughhim3856 Yes, I love these verses and can't wait to study them further. I started cover about 1.5 yes ago. It has definitely been controversial for my family (painful still) but my non covering church has yet to say anything and my friends have been just fine with it. I haven't found a "religion" that I 100% agree with, but i keep Sabbath so a few other things.
@@royaltm3420 I can relate in a lot of ways. My husband and I we tend to 'church hop', but never seen to find much fulfilment in a standard church setting. But it seems naturally we have been forming a more organic church you could say. 1.5 yrs covering that's amazing! I have been covering almost full time for the past month or so now. I noticed the more I started outside of just room prayer sessions I genuinely feel more 'protected' and less 'competitive' with other females if that makes sense. It helps too with my anxiety maybe you can relate with this.
@@allthingsthroughhim3856 I definitely can relate! My daughter is a teen and her anxiety heightens when she worries about her appearance. Covering truly can help us in so many practical ways, if we let it. I was nvr huge on make up, but I started not wearing it this year and same results honestly. I feel way more at peace with my own natural appearance! I don't even think about it now.
Just don't give up Sabbath keeping, for the Sabbath is the only day God blessed and sanctified. And has never been changed by God nor Jesus nor by his Disciples, only by man.
Just wore a head covering for the first time today to church, I felt kinda strange because I'm the only young woman in church doing it 😊 but I felt the holy Spirit telling me to cover up so I obey ❤ just don't understand why no one else does it anymore, when you read the Bible it says it very clear that woman should cover up especially during worship, I mean if it's in the Bible then why are people not obeying anymore? Just because we live in a different time and culture doesn't mean the Bible has changed? Don't know, feeling confused I guess, I love that God is showing me more woman online who are conficted about the same, God is good, everything for His glory ❤
If you have short hair, that may be why, because that would be the only good reason to cover your head. Otherwise, if your hair is long, it is your God-given covering, and you should not think that you can do better with a man-made covering.
You are a brave woman and you deserve honor for that! Keep on doing that because it also the test for women on their obedience, submission and humbleness. But remember, it is not only about head covering, it is also about the way you dress in general... deep cut out shirts, tight shirts or any other piece of clothing... And to answer the question WHY it is so today? Because we are living in the last days, Satan hates humanity that is represented in the male, because he stands for human race and Satan is trying to flip everything upside down from what it originaly was! So he wants women to rule over man, he wants man shave to look like woman, he wants man to dress like women and around, he wants to destroy marriage, our sex orientation and lastly to bow down to man, instead of God and worship man instead of God! What do I mean by that? The final rebellion against God is that we exchange the day of worship from God has originally established to "another" day.... yes, God said (Exodus 20:8): KEEP THE SABBATH (Saturday) holy, and man in his rebellion says NO, we will worship on the day we want... and starts worshiping on Sunday, the day of the SUN. And this will be the final test for humanity and then the end will come. Jesus will return to take those that obey HIM and HIS commandments to be with him forever... Remember, Satan will come as the angel of light ... to deceit those that are not grounded in the WORD OF GOD! The man in Rome is the beast of Revelation 13 and the whole world will bow down to him by observing the day papacy said we will worship... Deception is the name of the game. Do not be fooled, keep your eyes open. God loves you, young woman! God bless you and keep you. Greetings from Joseph, Loud Cry Ministries, Czech Republic.
@@hlasitevolani1575 Brave? Really? don't you think you may be laying it on a bit thick. For just wearing a hat? I don;t see that wearing a hat is going to make anyone brave especially nowadays when almost no one cares even you one wears nothing at all.
@@JohnYoder-vi1gj Oh brother, I wanted to express support to this young woman and yes, don´t be misstaking, it is not easy for them sometimes. Anyway, either way, it is good she started doing that. And you don´t know me, so there is no need to say that I do not care about something. Yes, I do care very very much and I am one of those that teach how to dress modestly etc. However I do this in Czech language because I am Czech, currently living in my home country. Clothing is very very important subject today. Even my own daughter does not want to listen to me, not even my wife, because they love this world and its ways. I love God and Jesus and his ways. And that is what I teach. And that is the reason why so many people here do not like me, but that´s ok, I will still preach the truth. God be with you. Shalom.
@@hlasitevolani1575 I think support is all well and good but it really is too much to say. It's like saying one is brave for putting on shoes or something. And I was referring that we live in a world were most people do not care not that you do not care. In other words most people (in the world) will not even flinch at whether someone wears a hat or not. I understand that in the Czech Republic it may be different but overall it really isn't a major issue anymore. Also the only part that gave the slightest inkling of an issue was her own feelings of "strangeness" In other words it was her own internal feelings and not someone or some group who said or did anything. So if you are saying that she is brave because she seems to be the only one doing that in her church then I think it doesn't seem allocated appropriately. Just like if she were the only one to wear gloves there is no need to invoke bravery here either. She thinks she needs to wear a hat that is her own business though she does not need to, biblically speaking. But lets reserve the word bravery to those who really are fighting for the cause and preaching the gospel.
Years ago, growing up amongst the immigrants.. all the babas.. include my grandma... wore head scarves all the time..... we need to walk beyond judgement but our own hearts...
A man to have long hair is a shame. For a woman to have short hair or her head shaved was a shame. It is also an abomination for a woman to dress like a man, and a man to dress like a woman. It's all about keeping the outward distinction between men and women. The whole headcovering was for the women (to keep their hair long) to not appear as men; and to cover their heads if their hair was short or they were bald for some unfortunate reason. People have mixed in their own ideas and come up with this head covering "culture".
Ignoring and it's consequence started at Genesis 3.Enemy is deceiver ..God will reveal truth only to those who love the truth.God showed me that this is needed.
I'm someone who is seeking answers, and my question with this is about women covering the head when praying or prophesying, and men uncovering their head when doing the same. If we are to pray without ceasing, doesn't that go for men and women alike? So, if a woman is supposed to cover the head at all times so she can be in prayer spontaneously, does it mean a man should keep his head uncovered at all times for the same reason?
You make a good point which I have found in discussing this topic most people cannot give a good answer. But let me see if I can try to answer your inquiry. Some say that Paul is claiming that women are to wear a hat ONLY while praying and prophesying and the opposite for men, which is not true. Paul was simply mentioning them as examples. The point is that it looks bad that a woman whose head is not covered in LONG hair. There is no noun used that one can point to and interpret a hat or a veil. It just says that it ought to be covered. Men have misinterpreted this part to mean a veil or hat. Paul clearly is saying in verse 13 when asking us to make a judgement that if it looks "comely"(pleasing in appearance) if a woman is praying while being uncovered. So How does the lack of a veil make a woman not look pleasing? It doesn't if we are interpreting uncovered to mean to be without a veil or hat. But if uncovered means short hair then of course a short-haired woman looks uncomely especially if she were to do something LIKE praying or prophesying. If the wearing of a veil is relegated to worship time which some people like to interpret praying and prophesying to mean then why mention that the reason why a women or men ought to be covered or uncovered due to the order of creation. Why say that men should not be covered because he is the image and glory of God? Sounds like he shouldn't be covered at any time. Why mention that the reason a woman should be covered is because of the angels? Why does Paul only use the word praying and not praying and prophesying in verse 13? Why? because Paul is saying that covered mean to be covered in LONG hair and uncovered means to have short hair (not bald) and that because of these reasons men ought to keep their hair short and women long.
This is the third time I have watched your series on head covering. I am a new Christian. I am very convicted...having read these passages with new eyes and an open heart. How do I bring this to my wonderful pastor and his wife? Should I share your videos? Is there an approach I should use so as not to incite defensiveness?
Corinthians 11:6 is the key verse. If a woman has no covering while assembling or praying then her hair should be cut off. So hair and the covering cannot be the same thing. Indeed, this is proven by the man not to have a 'covering' on his head when praying to God. If the hair was the 'covering' then he would have to cut off his hair each time before prayers, or of course, be bald........{;o;}
Keep covering and I’d they ask, share the verses. Some people are very adept at arguing- even if they are in error. You might want to look into some books. Glories Seen and Unseen is a good one. Also, look up “the head covering movement” website as there is a lot of good information out there. God bless you.
You are convicted (by God's Spirit), so that is where it ends. 🙂 Cover your head, worship, and if anyone asks, explain simply and confidently. It is between you and God. You are not disrupting a church service... you are just covering your hair. You are not insisting everyone else does it... you are obeying what God has put on your heart. If God tells you to do a thing, and it doesn't involve anyone else, then it doesn't involve anyone else: you don't need to ask permission to obey God! I will be praying for you. You are loved. 😊❤✝️
I don’t think you need to bring it up with your pastor unless you specifically want to discuss it with them? Just do your thing and if they ask you about it you can tell them that you felt God was calling you to do it
Corinthians 11:6 is the key verse. If a woman has no covering while assembling, or praying, then her hair should be cut off. So hair and the covering cannot be the same thing. Indeed, this is proven by the man not to have a 'covering' on his head when praying to God. If hair was the 'covering' then he would have to cut off his hair each time before prayers, or of course, be bald.
Well it's clear the term "long hair" is the covering for the woman, and "short hair", is not having a head covering for the man. V6 says "Shorn or Shaven" which means she is not covered if she does not have long hair. But naturally if her hair is not long then it might as well be cut short or completely shaven all off, both of which are a shame. In V. 14 he says that it is a shame for a man to have long hair "a covering". And V.15 that "long hair" for the woman is "a covering". It doesn't say "a hat" is a covering" or just "hair" it says "long hair is given to her for a covering". Context means something when you read scripture, and the context is clearly about long and short hair, not whether or not men and women should or should not wear hats in church, or when they pray. No where is hat, scarf, or any other material listed as a covering in these verses other than "long hair".
@@originaldanman Jeromel Villame Stated recently: "Paul is saying that nature itself teaches us that a woman's hair is her glory for her hair is given to her as a covering (Greek: perebolaion), but when she prays or prophesies she should cover (katakalupto) her covering (perebolaion), because if she won't cover (katakalupto) her head, then she should cut her covering (hair, perebolaion) short. But if it is shameful for her to cut her perebolaion (hair, covering) short, then let her head be covered (katakalupto). We cannot see the truth at first when reading English Bibles but the Greek words are different and they mean two different things (katakalupto and perebolaion). To God be the glory and honor. Amen." 1 Corinthians 11:6 is the key verse. If she has no covering while assembling, then her hair should be cut or shaved off. So hair and the covering cannot be the same thing. Indeed, this is proven by the man not to have a 'covering' on his head when praying to God. If hair was the 'covering' then he would have to shave his head each time before prayers, or of course be bald..
My question has always been.If a lady got in an accident or something She needed to be found/rescued.If she died would she go to hell for not covering her head!? Just curious! Does Followers Of The Way have a specific doctrine on head covering? Like does it have to be covered entirely or will a bandanna be acceptable?
Once I forgot my head covering and I started talking to God and immediately put my hand on top of my head to be in obedience. Never thought about using a tissue!
@@Goadenhomestead interesting. Thanks for sharing! Asking because you only really ever hear about it being enforced in an Amish and Mennonite setting in the West.
It is for ALL women. And not only in public. It does not matter how people see it. Only how God fears it. If you only do it in public, it is equal to never doing it. Because then you fear men, not God.
That's a good question that many people ask. While the Bible does not give details about the appearance of the covering, I think there are a few common sense characteristics we can figure out. The covering ought to be simple and modest. It ought to be easily recognized as a religious covering, and not a fashion item. It ought to cover at least the top of the head, and not a small portion of it. Many people also find the covering ought to cover up most of the hair itself, and this is accomplished either by wearing a longer covering, or by tying up the hair under a shorter one. You can also do your own research about what different religious groups do as far as covering. I hope that helps.
@@WholeBibleBelieverWoman it looks like the link is down. Are there any other lists that include all the teachings from this group about the headcovering?
@@220SouthlandAve Sorry, but since a couple years ago I have come to believe the Holy Spirit guided me not to wear the head covering except in situations that might call for it and have entirely lost interest in such sermons.
@@220SouthlandAve There are only three videos on this channel about the head covering, to my knowledge. I think this is the first one. To get the others, you could go to playlists on their channel, and there's a head covering one. Hope that helps!
@@richfrench288 Jesús commands to baptize in the name of three singular titles, father, son and Holy Spirit and the name of them is Jesus, this was revealed by the Holy Spirit to the apostles which is why all the babtizms in the book of acts were in the name of Jesus or the name of the Lord Jesus or the name of the Lord which is Jesus Christ the fullness of the God head Bodily, per scripture
John G. Paton was a missionary who evangelised a violent island where everyone, both men and woman, wear little to no clothing. In his book, The Story of John G. Paton or Thirty Years Among South Sea Cannibals, John G. Paton records this incident about a native man and woman who became Christians and then wanted to marry but feared they would be killed because a few men wanted to marry the woman" "In a few seconds, Yakin entered and if Nelwang’s bearing and appearance were rather inconsistent with the feeling of worship (he was wearing a shirt, kilt and tommahawk, John G. Paton felt it inappropriate to wear an emblem of violence to church)- and what on earth was I to do when the figure and costume of Yakin began to reveal itself marching in? The first visible difference betwixt a Heathen and a Christian is that the Christian wears some clothing, the Heathen wears none. Yakin had determined to show the extent of her Christianity by the amount of clothing she could carry upon her person. Being a Chief’s widow before she became Nelwang’s bride, she had some idea of state occasions and appeared dressed in every article of European apparel, mostly portions of male attire, that she could beg or borrow from about the premises! Her bridal gown was a man’s drab-coloured great-coat, put on above her native grass skirts and sweeping down to her heels, buttoned tight. Over this she had hung on a vest and above that, again, most amazing of all, she had superinduced a pair of men's trousers, planting the body of them on her neck and shoulders and leaving her head and face looking out from between the legs - a leg from either side streaming over her bosom, arid, dangling down absurdly in front! Fastened to the one shoulder also there was a red shirt and to the other a striped shirt waving about her like wings as she sailed along. Around her head, a red shirt had been twisted like a turban, and her notions of art demanded that a sleeve thereof should have a loft over each of her ears! She seemed to be a moving monster-loaded with a mass of rags. The day was excessively hot, and the perspiration poured over her face in streams. She, too, sat as near to me as she could get on the woman’s side of the church. Nelwang looked at me and then at her smiling quietly, as if to say, “You never saw in all your white world, a bride so grandly dressed!” I little thought what I was bringing on myself when I urged them to come to church. The sight of that poor creature sweltering before me constrained me for once to make the service very short - perhaps the shortest I ever conducted in all my life! The day ended in peace. The two souls were extremely happy, and I praised God that what might have been a scene of bloodshed had closed thus, even though it were in a kind of wild grotesquerie!" It seems to me that some people prior to becoming Christians behave very sexually immorally. Then, when they convert, they feel so embarrassed about their former behaviour, they wear every piece of clothing they own all at once just like this woman and man, but if your a Christian now your sins are as far as the east is from the west. You have been forgiven.
I know it’s a little old, but I just watched your video for the first time and I have a question. Paul told the people that women should cover their heads, but men shouldn’t, yet God told Aaron that when he is performing his priestly duties that he was to have his head covered (with a turban). So do we listen to God or man on what is correct?
Hi Barbara. Of the commandments of Yah, there are some that are only for the priests, some only for men, some only for women, some only for farmers, and so on. The commands for the Aaronic priests to cover their heads was for temple service. The priestly garments are/were different from that of the garments for women, and were very specifically described by Yahweh. We don't see a command for men to cover when they came to bring offerings. There don't appear to be any specific requirements for the covering a woman is to wear. I believe that when Yah doesn't spell it out in detail, much is left to interpretation and personal conviction. I don't think it would be fair for anyone to tell women exactly how they should cover, but I personally feel that the scripture seems to indicate that the covering is to cover all of the hair, and it seems that that was the way it was always done throughout history. I don't claim to be an expert on anything and I definitely reserve the right to be wrong, just hope to help clear this up a bit for you. Blessings to you!
@@brookepenney8719 Thank you, Brooke. In modern times, I do believe that a pastor or any man teaching a group of people is doing the Father’s work just as the priest did and should be abiding by that rule as well. I agree with you on the head covering for women. Scripture is clear that if a woman is praying in a public setting or prophesying that their head should be covered. In Hebrew, prophesying can also mean teaching, as in children or other women. I personally think that women are perhaps a little more blessed if they also practice this in the privacy of their home. However, I do not believe that it is necessary for a woman to have her head covered all the time. Blessings to you.
In my opinion, the Old Testament and New Testament were very different eras. Jesus bringing the new covenant changed the laws completely (see the Sermon on the Mount). This is only one of the many differences that we see for New Testament Christians to follow. For example, in the Old Testament, they killed their enemies. In the New Testament, Jesus said to love our enemies.
@@sophielee1493 Scripture tells us that our Heavenly Father does not change, He is the same today as He was in ancient times. Yeshua (Jesus) did not come to do away with the rules that Father set down for us to live by, He came to teach us a deeper meaning of what it means to follow His laws. If you read the history of why the people were told to kill their enemies, you would see that because of the breach in the covenant brought on by the angels that sinned in Genesis 6, the people were told to destroy the bad seed of the Nephilim. That’s why the flood happened. Yeshua didn’t change the covenant Father set down with His people, He renewed the covenant and completed it to its fullest. Just like we renew our “covenant” every year with the state to not drive a car without a license.
A friend of mine, who is Presbyterian, was taught that the Christians in Corinth were told to headcover because it would differentiate the Christian women from the Corinthian women. Evidently they needed to do that because the Corinthians ' religion had a bunch of sexual acts involved with it, and the headcovering would keep the Christian women safe from all of that.
Its not uncommon to hear something like this today. There are some videos in YT that claim it gives protection, some have called it a crown, and some say that it somehow brings to closer to God. Many others call it a journey for some reason putting up on some kind of pedestal that requires more attention than it deserves.
That’s what I was always told. But I think the world is still full of lust today just as much lust as it was back then. Personally my hair has been an issue of vanity. I think if this is a way that I can be modest and submissive I’m for it.
@@shanemccrea7085 Bless you. That's a good attitude, Sophie. It does not appear to be the main purpose of the covering according to this chapter, but it definitely expresses modesty very deeply, and hair is a cause of vanity for many women. There is great power in the headcovering.
i have a question brother. since i became a Christian i've been attending a Baptist Christian church that doesn't practice this headcovering for women. although my wife ( i'm male btw😊) is with the Lord now, should i leave the church because they are not practicing this? i don't know of any Baptist church in our area that practices head covering for women. Thank you.
I’ve been covering since 2014. I feel the Lord is and has been calling me to cover it completely, so I wear a bandanna and a long scarf over it. I don’t wear it all the time, but I’ve been wearing it a lot lately. I pray God will help me to have the right hand covering it makes it easier for me to cover that being too difficult. Thank you very much
Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. 1 Corinthians 11:4-5
I am reading the chapter 11 in 1Cor. Over and over. I do not see head covering, rather that our h as it is our covering. However the woman as wife should submit to her husband. Had i married as a believer i would have chosen carefully a husband. As an unbeliever i married the man i believed was in love with me. Totally selfish. To walk in submission to my husband who has fallen away from the faith for many years and has a terrible short temper. He just last year, at a brush with death, repented and embraced the Word of God again. What faith, forgiveness and patience this has brought me through a marriage that was challenging. I have not yet realized all Jesus has for me, still growing. But i love your teaching on surrender to God's order in family. Finding it not easy to submitt, but doing it in obedience to my loving Father, there is peace and joy in surrendering my will. God bless you all, thank you for your obedient faith.
If we follow those who subscribe to the doctrine of women wearing veils then it can be argued that the most often cited verse in this teaching is 1st Corinth. 11:5, which states: “But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.” According to those who believe women ought to wear veils this verse implies that a woman’s uncovered head is someone who does not wear a veil. That they are wrong for failing to wear it and assumes that such a person already has long hair. Therefore, the conclusion is that it must be referring to an “additional” covering. Another conclusion is that a woman ought to be covered ONLY when praying and prophesying then it would seem as though it is something that can be placed on or taken off like a veil. If there where only two exclusive moments then one should have no problem if an “unveiled” woman speaks in tongues, interprets tongues, heals the sick, casts out devils, etc., right? Following such logic it stands to reason that the other instances that I mentioned should be acceptable WITHOUT a veil, right? Now should they say NO, then they should admit that there may be more instances; thereby making the argument that the covering is removable based on two conditions, to be false. Please keep in mind that the word “veil” is not actually mentioned here, neither anything that EXPLICITLY states that the covering is something can be placed on or taken off. People ASSUME this because they are misreading scripture. So what can we say about this? Just that Paul was giving us a couple of examples of how doing something HOLY or GODLY does not look right if she is uncovered, in other words not covered in long hair. Let’s follow the logic of verse 5 in a real life scenario. Imagine a woman with long flowing hair praying and prophesying without a veil. Would the lack of a veil really equate to someone as if they were shaven? Did people really look at unveiled women as someone shaved? I am not saying this to be funny, but people have literally stated that an unveiled woman was likened to being shaved. Given that this comparison seems illogical one should consider that someone may be reading it wrong. For if “uncovered” means “short hair” then it fits the narrative of those who understand the word “uncovered” to mean “not covered in long hair,” (aka short hair) then the verse would make more sense in that a woman with short hair might as well be shaved, since it is already short. So be honest, doesn’t it make more sense that an “uncovered” woman means a woman with short hair? Wouldn’t that be MORE closely relatable to being “shaven” than to someone who has long hair but not wearing a veil? In other words it is not a big leap to make the correlation between short hair to being shaven than to being asked to make a GIGANTIC LEAP OF LOGIC that an unveiled woman is somehow equal to being shaved. Please don’t dismiss this logic think about it for a minute. * So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? ….. If we examine all the verses from verse 4 to 15 without bias we should at least conclude that the passages have something to do with the physical heads of both men and women as well as headship. Bit as far as the physical head is concerned the question we should ask is: When they refer to “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” are they referring to long or short hair or some kind of veil? Some will even say all of the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 it would seem that we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions the words, “covered,” “cover” and “uncovered." “But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." If the covering is long hair then the words “covered” or “cover” which are synonymous to “covering” should be understood as long hair as well. Then it makes sense when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered” because they are referring to being covered in LONG hair. Now logically speaking wouldn’t being “uncovered” or “not covered” then mean short hair? Therefore, if to be covered refers to “long hair” then the opposite should be true, in that to be “uncovered” should be understood as having “short” hair. Some people will try to complicate this matter by addressing the Greek translation. If we are to make an exegesis to the words presented to us in the Bible then we should be able to easily understand them without having to start studying Greek. * You Should Naturally Know Right From Wrong by Just Looking…. If these verses do not move you yet then here’s one that should definitely blow your mind. Paul asks you to make a judgment call in verse 13 as if one should naturally see a problem because he asks you to: "Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?" Paul is asking us to make a judgment. Based on what? The only option is based on observation. Therefore, if to be uncovered would mean to be without a veil, then one would have to explain in detail why a FABRIC VEIL would pop up into the average person’s mind when observing a woman praying? Why would you or I look at someone and think that a veil (or any other foreign object) is missing? Someone needs to explain this logically. Again, don’t dismiss this think about it. Be honest, does looking at a woman doing this naturally create a thought that a veil is missing? I have never seen or heard anyone say: "What a shame she is not wearing a veil on her head” after looking at a woman with long hair while praying, that would be ludicrous. One would have to be literally BRAINWASHED to think that the average person would EVER think that a SEPARATE UNNATURAL OBJECT such as a veil would be missing on a praying woman’s head. There is no NATURAL or NORMAL reasoning to make such a judgment. But if the word “UNCOVERED” were to mean "SHORT HAIR." then it would make LOGICAL sense. For if I were to observe a woman who has a short haircut doing these holy things like we read in verse 5, then I can naturally judge (by sight) that something doesn’t look right. Also, the very next verse continues this line of thinking that things should be obvious to understand by mere observation in nature. "Doth not even NATURE itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him." 1st Corinthians 11:14 Note that verses 13 and 14 are two consecutive questions both of which ask you to NATURALLY or NORMALLY ASSUME or JUDGE that there is something wrong by OBSERVING a woman’s uncovered head (aka short hair) while praying and a man having long hair. I would like to also add that it is NOT jumping from a “veil” in 13 and then suddenly to “hair” in 14 like some would like to suggest, because you will note that verse 15 refers back again to the woman which FLAT OUT STATES the “covering” to mean “long hair.” Therefore there is NO EXCUSE to not understand the previous verses. By this simple understanding we can then understand the part where it states that it is shameful or dishonoring for a man to pray or prophesy with his head covered, meaning covered in long hair, like in verses 4: “Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.” This “dishonoring” of the head fits perfectly with verse 14 where it mentions that it is “shameful“ for a man to have long hair, therefore the topic is the same throughout the verses in that the head “COVERED” in this verse refers to “LONG HAIR.” I should note that verse 4 in NO WAY implies that the covering on the man can be placed on or taken off, like some like to argue, due the aforementioned false interpretation that the verse is being exclusive to two actions instead of seeing them as two examples. As stated before this verse simply states that it is dishonoring if a man does something holy or godly like praying or prophesying while covered in LONG HAIR. The same should be understood in verse 7: “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.” Again, they are NOT implying something that can be put on or taken off, ESPECIALLY in this verse, as it offers no examples or “supposed” exclusive conditions. In this instance it is to be understood that the man should not cover his head (with long hair) and the reason because he is the image and glory of God. This same idea should be included in the verses that refer to women like in verse 6: “For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.” This verse is often misinterpreted like verse 5 when it is simply mentioning in the same tone as the previous verse that if a woman has short hair then let her head be shaved BUT if it is a shame to be shaven let her be covered in long hair. Keep in mind that short hair is NOT the same as being shaved. It’s really not complicated once you understand what it means to be covered or uncovered. Everything else starts to make sense when you read the other verses knowing that they are referring to hair. Unfortunately people tend to get stuck on just a couple of words that vaguely seems like some kind of headwear but do not consider all the verses that show that the “covering” means long hair and that “uncovered” is to mean short hair. Therefore, given all this logic and proof, how can one conclude that they are referring to a hat, bonnet or veil?
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter If it meant short hair, we had a problem. This covering Paul adresses is one that can be removed. Good luck trying to do that with long hair. Like it or not, God's comamndments are not debatable.
Clearly you did not read my point on that which I am pasting again here: “ Another conclusion is that a woman ought to be covered ONLY when praying and prophesying then it would seem as though it is something that can be placed on or taken off like a veil. If there where only two exclusive moments then one should have no problem if an “unveiled” woman speaks in tongues, interprets tongues, heals the sick, casts out devils, etc., right? Following such logic it stands to reason that the other instances that I mentioned should be acceptable WITHOUT a veil, right? Now should they say NO, then they should admit that there may be more instances; thereby making the argument that the covering is removable based on two conditions, to be false. Please keep in mind that the word “veil” is not actually mentioned here, neither anything that EXPLICITLY states that the covering is something can be placed on or taken off. People ASSUME this because they are misreading scripture. So what can we say about this? Just that Paul was giving us a couple of examples of how doing something HOLY or GODLY does not look right if she is uncovered, in other words not covered in long hair. “.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter First off. We did not say the covering was exactly a veil. A hat or a towel would classify also. A commandment is a commandment. Hair is something women are born with. So they are not the covering Paul is mentioning.
Who cares. You gotta be famous to be worth emulating? My grandma was ten times the woman any of them were. But she didnt have s publicist so she didnt make your list. But she did wear a headcovering so I guess shes not cool to you
I was talking about this last night with a friend, she told me she stop wearing her small head covering. I told her that I don't see anything wrong with covering your head. Well she told me if I knew where head covering came from and who wore them I would understand. I asked her where did it come from and she told me the harlots only wore them to show everyone that they are no longer harlots. That didn't sit right with me. I told her no she was wrong and she told me to study and go really deep into the scriptures. So far I read that women who were married wore head covering to show that she was married. Widows wore head coverings. And also Paul said that the woman wore a head covering to symbolize that her husband is the head of the wife.
I think your friend may be referring to Genesis 38:14-15 when Tamar “…put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a veil, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife.” And when Judah saw her he thought she was a prostitute “…because she had covered her face.” So it makes sense especially given that one would think that prostitutes would WANT to naturally cover their heads and faces so they are not easily recognized due to shame. You said Paul said that the woman wore a head covering to symbolize that her husband is the head of the wife. If you are referring to 1st Cor 11 then I would have to let you know that the KJV does not mention husband or wife it uses the words men and women therefore it would be erroneous to assume that Paul was referring only to married couples
Well when someone does not behave appropriately, or according to biblical values, I call that person.. it.. Because its my way of not insulting or conform to latest concepts , I use the word.... it.., and then I am happy. Thanks for the vid on head covering I still feel uneasy praying or be in God's presence with uncovered head.. Its my preference and connects easily with God this way. 🙌
The English language is a funny language. Boats get the pronoun “she” sometimes. I think Ernest Hemingway wrote with those pronouns personifying in his story about a fisherman. And then… It. Is singular. You could say the formal “one,” as in, “one must not,” but this refers to a non specific person in most contexts. But it certainly refers to a person. “One.” Then you have the trouble with those who want plural pronouns because they feel there are multiple persons within them. (See Mark 5:9.) “It” may seem dehumanizing… either it only seems that way and isn’t, or it’s because they (the group requesting unique pronouns) actually are dehumanizing themselves by rejecting the fundamental aspects that make each person who he or she is. God made mankind of two flavours: male and female! If one is neither, such as claiming non binary status, then they are contradicting God, who made mankind a binary of two biological flavours: male and female. Bible says God cannot lie in Titus 1:2. Bible also says to let God be true and everyone else a liar, meaning, when we differ from God, God isn’t wrong but we are wrong. Make sense? Overall: you may like the formal singular pronoun “one”, and you may want to challenge the idea that one can choose one’s own pronouns since each person is born either male or female, and God has chosen our lot in life with His sovereignty over EVERY aspect of creation; By denying that each of us were created either male or female and attempting to define one’s own sex and gender and pronouns, one finds oneself on shifting and sinking sands, confused and self-contradictory. Better? Have a beautiful day, whoever you are!
I enjoyed the lecture. I don't take his point about the covering being counter-cultural. He cites multiple instances of other groups and religions etc. wearing head coverings (even men) during the time period. If anything, this shows that covering the head was a prominent feature of first century culture.
You're not alone don't give up. You don't know whom you may be influencing. My wife has been wearing a head covering for months now. She is the only one in our church. She is not going to give up. It's made a big difference in our relationship.
Only because you are the only one doing it, does not mean you should not do it. Think about how God sees it. wrong and right are not decided by society.
I can understand. I just purchased a veil, and I will be the only one wearing one at my church. Maybe it will inspire others to join in... maybe not. It does have me feeling a little unsure even though it's something I really want to do. Try again with me.
@@bricat5798 And I agree, it should lead the way. My wife always wear a scarf now after she met Michelle Curtis, she was inspired by her example, and she lead other women in our churches to that path too.
I feel like God is calling me to cover but I'm trying to learn more bc I see no one doing this anymore. I really don't want to stand out too much! Is that shame?
I understand. It's not easy. I went over covering with my wife from Scripture, and she began covering for worship several years ago. It wasn't easy for her, because at that time we attended a church where no one covered. Now we attend one in which all the women cover. Seek honor before God, and not before men, and realize the awesome meaning God has in it for you.
Romans 12:2 (KJV) And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Simply obey God (not some group or sect). Feelings are not a good source for obtaining the truth. 1st Corinthians 11 refers much about hair unfortunately too many people have made it seem that it is referring to a hat or veil. Does God really care about a hat? Given the context of the passages doesn't it seem more likely that he wants women to maintain their hair long? As we can read in verse 15? Does covering have to mean an object separate from the body? or can it mean hair which also has the properties of covering the head? People may point out the praying and prophesying part but those were just examples not conditions because if they were conditions then the opposite would be true in that in any other condition a woman does not need to wear a veil. But some might not like that obvious logic and claim it should be worn most of the time, but if that were the case then why would they mention there are two conditions. God wants us to learn that women maintain their hair long and men's short otherwise it wouldn;t look right.
@@robertmiller812 One does not define what one is talking about at the end of a discussion. No. Verse 15 is introduced the previous verse with language of comparison, which would be nonsensical if it were the exact same thing he's been talking about all along. Plus verse 15 uses a different word for covering than used previously. Paul is only showing that even nature affirms the teaching which he is giving. It is not a "sect" which teaches the head covering, but the covering reflects the normal reading of the Greek text, and also reflects nearly all of Christian history from the earliest documented age. You need to consider you're the one in a sect. The headcovering is normative for Christian women, according to Scripture.
@@holinessofthebride1935 “One does not define what one is talking about at the end of a discussion.” Well, I didn’t know you were sentence police. The written word is not based on what you consider to be the rule. There is nothing wrong to expound something more thoroughly later in a discussion. But what’s worse is that you make it seem as though a huge paragraph was made when it was only a couple of sentences. The fact the word in Greek is different from the other words makes no difference it doesn’t make a major difference. Whereas you probably see the word veil when there is no word there like that. Long hair can cover the head therefore there is no need to imagine or suppose they are referring to a hat or veil. Covering is not exclusive to a foreign object hair fits very well here. The Greek word for covered or uncovered in the other verses is not a noun as you may seem to view it. Lastly mentioning “Christian history” depends on who you WANT to focus on. Amway history is not on the same level as Scripture, if this is your view of what it takes to prove a point then you will be in the same company as Catholics who have an extremely long history of following bad doctrine but as long as there is “history” that’s all that matters right? Your logic is very flawed and doesn’t stand up to the Scriptures. I say this in all sincerity ask God and he will reveal the truth to you.
I was following a nice back-and-forth biblical discussion in the comments about this topic from all sides but you guys have been deleting and leaving basically your views. This is not right.
I’m am listening because I want to be obedient to my Lord. I will listen to the other video before I make a commitment. I am disturbed that you quote more from people than the Bible. And I only use KJV because I believe it is the best version to the English speaking people. That said I noticed you criticized the lady for a small head covering but not for where shorts
I went to change spelling sorry. Wearing shorts is way less Christian dress to me than a head covering. I am trying to keep an open mind and heart. Maybe I am too critical
Corinthians 11:6 is the key verse. If a woman has no covering while assembling, then her hair should be cut off. So hair and the covering cannot be the same thing. Indeed, this is proven by the man not to have a 'covering' on his head when praying to God. If hair was the 'covering' then he would have to cut off his hair each time before prayers, or of course, be bald........{;o;}
M G That have nothing to do with covering praying is personal and should not be an act of showing. Covering is an act within the Christian meetings for Christians
I completely agree with this but someone recently brought up turbans to me and now I'm stumped, why did men wear turbans if it is dishonorable for them to have a covering.
The Levitical priests were required to wear some kind of head covering. The issue here is the interpretation of the word covering. If one were to read 1 Corinthians 11 and read covering to mean long hair and uncovered to mean short hair then the passage would make more sense. It flows with the rest of the verses that mention long hair and the words shorn or shaven.
First I encourage you to read and study the entire Bible - all the way through. Second I encourage you to bring your questions directly to God. Third I encourage you to get confirmation from the Holy Ghost on what I am about to explain - Men covered their heads in the OT when they mourned or were ashamed. Both which the Levites should have felt when they were ministering to the Lord. Mourning sin…theirs and others…ashamed because of sin..theirs and others.
Well not all men wore a hat if you read in the OT it was the priests who had to wear something on their heads. Today some have misconstrued the verses in 1st Corinthians 11 that men are not to wear a hat of some kind but the Levites had already been doing that. The real issue is if "to be covered" or uncovered means a type of headwear. But given that most of the verses revolve around hair it is referring to not being covered in long hair and similarly women ought not to be uncovered which is another way of saying they should not have short hair.
Misinterpretations Lead to More Questions and More Problems…. Many of these misunderstandings come from groups who push the veil agenda because of years of misinterpreting the Scriptures. This includes the Anabaptists, the Mennonites, the Amish (within their group), and the Orthodox Church among others. Unfortunately, such groups will have to deal with additional complex and logistical matters, for example: If it doesn’t say the word “veil”, how do you know they are not referring to a hood or a bonnet or any other type of headwear? What are the dimensions of this supposed covering? How can you be 100% sure that your dimensions are acceptable to God? What is the frequency of wearing it? Is there a direct regulation in the Bible that women must wear it all the time or do you use more than one verse to get to this conclusion? Does location matter? Does color matter? If a woman takes it off because she is going to bed or when she showers and naturally prays to God without wearing it, did she commit a sin or do something wrong? Wouldn’t this provoke internal shame and a fear of having to constantly beg for forgiveness for forgetting to wear the veil? Imagine how an extremist must be living on a day-to-day basis that they must find a veil or anything veil-like to pray to God. So, as you can see in my few examples instead of understanding something so simple as maintaining a manly or feminine look with one’s hair length now it becomes a complex, burdensome, and even stressful matter.
We don't have to know exactly why God "cares" but He does. That is why He teaches to cover in the Holy Bible. It pictures the headship of the man, which pictures the headship of Christ and God. It is very meaningful.
FA makes a great point. If one were to believe that a veil is what is being referred to here then one has to be constantly aware of what they do when one takes off a hat or veil when getting up or going to bed or taking a shower and so on. I don't think God was referring to a hat as if that would matter to him. The scriptures are saying that long hair is the covering not a foreign object. Time to be free from all religious misinterpretations and follow the Lord a little more perfectly.
@@defendingthegospel721 The idea of taking off and putting on fits the context very well, since it speaks of covering during worship, not at all times. It is the idea of hair that clashes with that context. It is the normal interpretation of the text which understands it to be a veil, since the words mean cover, or veil, and uncovered, or unveiled. Any ordinary person, if you told them to cover their head during services, would understand you mean a cloth or a cap. Not that they need to grow their hair any longer. Hair is mentioned by way of comparison, and that is why the language of comparison exists when bringing the topic in. The language of comparison is meaningless, and really absurd, if he has been talking about nothing but hair from the start.
My question is, what if God has put this on a woman’s heart to biblically do and she’s willing, but her husband is embarrassed by her because no one else is doing it? 🙏
My understanding is that you should always obey God rather than your husband if there is a conflict between the two. In this situation, if she wants to avoid conflict with her husband I would suggest she could use headcoverings that look more ”normal” (like some type of beanie that is trendy at the moment for example), that people wouldn’t react to
I would explain her reason for wanting to do it to her husband as best she can. Pray that her understands and approves. However, while her husband does have authority over her in marriage, the Lord has the higher authority still, and it may be necessary to cover even if the husband does not want it. I would hope at the minimum he would not oppose it.
Thank you for your comments. This is helpful instruction. I’m grateful when I approached my husband at one time, he was happy to see me follow God’s leading even though he didn’t really understand, he gave a blessing and now he doesn’t even blink an eye at it! Not all women have that. Thank you for your input! Shalom
How can you obey God by disobeying your husband? You can’t. So you should pray to God and ask HIM to move your husband and focus on being a 1 Peter 3 wife - which says without a word we will win over our disobedient husband as they watch how we live godly lives. Got tells us wives to submit to our husbands in ALL things.
A wife obeys her husband in ALL THINGS excluding sin. She is not obliged to go against God because her husband demands it. That is obedience to God first and foremost, and not disobedience to man. The same thing goes for a government. One does not need to sin because a magistrate demands it. It's a tough subject, I know.
if you are actually interested in studying Corinthians 11 you'll see that its a choice. personally ive adapted this in my life and I think its a blessing.
DOH! Better cover that, lest you be boasting! I'm kidding. This whole headcovering culture is just a mixup by those who don't understand what they read.
18:00 - No where are we instructed to “imitate” any man, not even the Lord himself. Our Lord said “follow me” not imitate, there is a difference. The apostle, inspired to write, instructs us to follow him, and mark others that walk, so as he have us for ensamples! Phil. 3:17 Imitation is not the reality, it’s mimicking the actions of another by one’s own ability or perception. It is not walking by the Spirit in the authority of His word. 18:30 - “Did God say? Satan loves confusion?” Why confuse Gods words with the so called nkjv? The enemy’s first attack was on Authority - Isaiah 14:12-14 - his famous 5 “I Will’s” against the most High, recorded in 5 statements in the format of 47 words. Authorized and Given by the most High Himself. So understandably his next assault would be upon the Authority of God ( His word - His commandment to the man in the garden concerning the trees to eat from, Genesis 2:16-17.) Not - “did God say”, but, “Yea, hath God said” directed not to the Man but to his counterpart, the Woman, the Man’s representative, his compliment and completion, who was not to be addressed apart from the Man. Gen. 18:11-12; 20:16. The serpent was successful in his attempt to assert doubt into the mind of the woman by changing the words of God which ultimately spawned a DESIRE in her to separate, divide from her husband, headship, to attain the goal of Satan’s suggestion - “ye shall be as gods” self realization. She took the initiation or the lead into this promise of offered wisdom from below - James 3:15 - “godhood” and then gave unto her husband, her head, to assist him in this “enlightenment.” Again, the enemy is doing more so today by again siding with the woman in the promise of her “betterment” by separating from her God given authority, her husband, in the name of liberation for advancement in her ascent to rule independently, just as Lucifer desired to be independent from the most High and ultimately to rule over him. The attack is upon authority, but in a positive, most deceptive way. Not by “did God say” or did He really mean you shall not eat of every tree of the garden, but “Yea,” (beginning with a positive assertion) hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” with the dismissal of the word “freely” in the command to the man prior to creation of the woman. So the dialogue between the serpent and the woman begins “outside of her husband” and this time the his venom accomplishes it’s desired intent (2 Cor. 11:3; 1 Timothy 2:14)in the form of 46 words. Women and men are open game for the enemy’s deception in the last days having SUBSTITUTED God’s words for their well meaning thoughts and intentions. IMITATION!
So a few things...you probably need to clarify your rationale that covering is not cultural. For your specific group who has adopted the practice, but for other cultures it is. I cringe every time schools (mostly public choose to tell certain groups-female they cannot wear their headcoverings---there is no difference). Perfect example would be many women in Africa, specifically South Africa, where married women can choose to cover (doek) to show their marital status, etc. I am married and have done missionary work there and even though I dress modestly here, I am even more mindful of it there and in East Africa. I think the reason some women feel the need to explain it is due to the fact that the media has implied a negative connotation to it. Lastly, I hope you receive this in grace, but I have noticed many churches (mine included) are offering classes in Greek, etc, so that people may better understand the Bible. My opinion is the true reason, a better translation, is lost when you sprinkle it in your lesson and then have to explain. We just have to take your word. This makes us no better than another church that shall remain nameless that provided their version and legalism to the masses. A plain and simple explanation would suffice.
You are right that Paul bases this argument on creation so how it is that a veil would apply? If the reasons for a woman to cover her head is found in the order of creation as so noted in verses 8 and 9, then how can one claim to use it as evidence to wear a MANUFACTURED veil or hat? It should be obvious that it had to be something natural like hair. Therefore an uncovered woman is a woman who is not covered in long hair, therefore the passage has more to do with being covered with long hair or not covered in long hair (aka short hair)
@@defendingthegospel721 I know of several teachers that believe this. This not my conviction on the subject. 1 the head covering is a sign of her husband's authority over her and because of the Angels ( I won't even begin to say I understand that part) I personally end up in the same place RC Sproul did.
@@wgterry73ify I don't doubt that we would find several teachers that will claim the head covering to be hair and veils. I have seen other pastors that believe that head covering is long hair so it isn't my conviction either. Though I am a bit confused as to why you mentioned a husband's authority? If you read from the KJV there is no mention of husbands or wives in fact one reads it as to mean all people which would make sense since we were talking about this being tied to creation which includes everyone and not just those married.
In southern India Christian women don't wear jewellery and a shawl at church. Because Hindus are very proud of their gold and display it.. which sets wrong standards.
1 cor 11;16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God. it was the tradition and custon and culture of those times. nothing else in 1 pet 3 we read about women coming to the church meetings with plaited hair so women did not cover the hair. thirdly, the Bible says that everything has to be gounded on at least TWO witnesses. there is only ONE place in the Bible where you read about the head covering and that is also not very clear since we read in the very passage that the hair of women is their covering. in the new testament we dont follow the traditions of old. we follow Lord Yeshu who set us free from the external things. now the reality is Christ Himself. not the things on the outside those who wear head coverings rely on the Flesh which is SIN and that is the WRONG REBELLION... thats bondage to sin...
Amen. I am so glad to hear someone say this. I would add that most people who follow this idea of veils should check their Bibles if they are reading from a modern version that adds words like veil, cloth, assembly, symbol of authority, husband, wife as such words you won't find in the King James version in 1st Corinthians 11. These words complicate and changes the meanings to Paul's preaching which was simply a quick preaching on hair length. Instead some have been misled and allowed misinterpretations to dictate their beliefs and have caused it to become a thorn and a burden that should never have existed in the first place.
I have enjoyed and learned much from this teaching, and will finish it, however, the preacher is greatly in error about the living God. He is one and that is it. Our Lord, Jesus Christ, is the Son of God. And Paul and others tell us time and time again that unto us there is but one God, even the Father. Please see the following verses. I'm sure there is more, but this should be enough to see that the LORD God, is but the one, true, and living God. Mark 12:18-34; Gen. 28:3; Ex. 3:14-14, 10:3, 15:26, 20:1-3, 7, 34:14; Lev. 18:21, 19:12, 25:17; Deut. 5:6-8, 11, 7:9, 12:11; I King. 8:60, 18:17-41; II King. 19:19; I Chron. 17:22, 24; II Chron. 21:12; Ps. 81:10, 106:47; Is. 12:2, 26:4, 25:1, 40:25, 42:8, 43:3, 10-11, 45:3, 5, 18, 46:5, 9, 48:17, 51:15, 54:5; Hos. 13:4, Joel 2:27; John 8:54, 14:9, 17:3, 20:17; Acts 17:23, 30-31; I Cor. 8:6, 11:3; Gal. 3:20; Eph. 4:6; Philip. 2:5-6; I Tim. 2:5
No matter. Romans 12:2 King James Version 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Christian culture, wears head coverings.
Corinthians 11:6 is the key verse. If a woman has no covering while assembling or praying then her hair should be cut off. So hair and the covering cannot be the same thing. Indeed, this is proven by the man not to have a 'covering' on his head when praying to God. If the hair was the 'covering' then he would have to cut off his hair each time before prayers, or of course, be bald........{;o;}
1:49 going to the library is the wrong answer. God planted the tongue. He said it perfectly in scripture. Throw all the books away, except one. By going to books you end up sounding just like the people that you are trying to get away from being the same as. The answer is in scripture.
What the heck does he mean God is the head of Christ? Chirst IS God! For a time the Son when He was human incarnate, was subordinate to the Father for our rescue. When the work of redemption was done, the majesty and glory of the Triune God is CO-ETERNAL- Tertuliian. "All authority has been given to me"- Jesus. If all authority is His... then there cannot be a God above Christ who IS GOD and one of the 3 persons in the TRINITY of GOD.
Where dose Jesus Christ sit in heaven, at the right hand of the Father, Jesus is God he has the same Authority as the Father, Jesus is the Fathers son, and to get to the Father is Jesus Christ this is the only way, that’s why we say in the name of the Father the Son and Holy Spirit they are 3 spirits in one, the Father is the head of Jesus and Jesus is the head of man and man is the head of the woman and the woman covers her head in obedience to this teaching, hope that helps ❤
God the Father did not want us to go to hell and that’s where we was all going because us as humans are selfish and don’t obey his law, so to save us from hell, he chose mother Mary to have a son who would die for us as the wages of sin is death, so God the Father is on the throne, he sent his spirit to put his spirit into Mary a son is born through Mary and then Jesus naturally became the Fathers son, even though it is God in the flesh, people was making up what they wanted out of scripture and God the Father was not having this no more, so God in the flesh Jesus Christ told us the right way of these teachings and how we are to live by them, God in the flesh Jesus Christ is sinless and did not deserve death but he stood in your place and took the punishment of your sins so you don’t die and go to hell, if you follow Jesus Christ and his teachings heaven will be your home but God is a just God and dose not force you to follow his son that is your choice where you want to go, but he did make a way for you so you can go to heaven and your spirit will live for eternity with him or you can be thrown into hell for eternity and it’s not a good place, the Holy Father demonstrates how much he loves us that he put Himself in human form and took our punishment because you mean so much to Him you are the apple of his eye and the Father thinks about you all the time because He is your Father he created you with love you was made for a purpose, you was designed by the creator, the only way to the Father is through the Son, have you looked up the gifts of the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God ❤
@@jesusislord8895 The Greek is kephale... source... the Son comes from the Father. They are one. The woman comes from the man. As Adam said, "Bone if Mt bone, flesh of my flesh". As Jesus said "... no longer two but one". Mark 10
You're missing the point. God merely asks that women acknowledge Headship and Authority by wearing a headcovering so that the Angels KNOW what each Soul's stance is. And if women don't want to do this, okay, they are expressing their Soul's will, FOR NOW. i DID THAT TOO, and it was temporary.
@Jesus Is Lord "Covering" can be more than "long hair." I believe, it is culturally determined. Sikh turbans, Orthodox veils, caps and scarves are utilized by communities and sects to show women's compliance with the concept of God's "headship."
@Carl Edwards I agree; however, if you look at the Christian FAMILY Communes -- Quaker, Mennonite, Amish, Bruderhof, 12Tribes -- you notice the females have coverings birth-to-death. THAT's suppression.
@Carl Edwards Communes are much more attuned to the Teachings of Jesus THAN ANY Sunday-go-to-Meeting mainstream denomination. Dismissing communes as "cults" discounts the entire concept of Brotherhood and Living-by-One-Purse. In Ancient times, the Lyran system and Essenes in Judaism were brotherhoods WHO FOLLOW PRINCIPLES of behavior that are UN-worldly, based on Godly behavioral principles. These are not to ridicule or even deny. They have a place in society -- SANCTITY in belief and practice.
@Carl Edwards Neither do the Hutterites, Mennonites, TwelveTribes or Bruderhoff have a problem employing technologies in business. It's a matter of the preferences each community CHOOSES as a consensus-led or prophet-led group. www.amazon.com/gp/product/1449984908/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1 ... Take Life's Water Free. At one time, I penned an adaptation of the Benedictine model of community, in favor of families.
William Brewer veil and silence are both going together. Sisters cannot cover themselves hiding and trying to talk that would make no sense if they cover they should be silence
@@josephrobi6806 the women are commanded to be silent in the churches. They are also commanded to pray being covered. Any prayers in the meeting would need to be silent.
William Brewer Don’t forget Paul reprimand was First the covering and later 1 Corinthians 14 he reprimanded the talk from sisters. Both the veil was not practice correctly and sisters talking was supposed keep silence in the church.
Paul was not an effective leader, among women. He silenced half the CHURCH. There are roles in every Church -- Deacon, Teacher, Healer -- that do not involve merely warming the pew seat and remaining silent. Such hatred of women is not justified.
I would encourage you to stay with God's perfectly preserved words, and also the most attacked, the Authorized Version, commonly known as the King James Bible.
the passage is not talking about wearing or not wearing a head covering, the scripture goes on to say that the long hair (not cut)is her covering and a man having long hair is a shame, it the hair not a cap or scarf ect , but the Hair itself, women should not cut their hair but wear it long and men should cut their hair and keep it short
I just don’t get it, head covering does not make a person modest. Should we go back to just walking and not driving? Should we go to the river and wash our clothes? Should we give all of it up? Right now technology is use to communicate and teach, then people should not be using this way of teaching, just like they didn’t during Jesus time, Jesus gave value to women . With that said I don’t get it. Woman are just as valuable as men. God bless
Do you see the head covering as dishonoring? We are not talking about an entire covering of the hair like Muslims and nuns do. It ain't got nothing to do with technology. We don't agree with the Amish's views on technology. However, they are right on the head covering.
Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head. -NASB version If the above scripture means a turban, for example, why would God require the priests to wear turbans? Paul certainly would have known about this. You shall speak to all the skillful people whom I have endowed with the spirit of wisdom, that they make Aaron’s garments to consecrate him, that he may serve as priest to Me. And these are the garments which they shall make: a breastpiece, an ephod, a robe, a tunic of checkered work, a turban, and a sash. They shall make holy garments for your brother Aaron and his sons, so that he may serve as priest to Me. -excerpt Exodus 28 Jesus prayed with something on His head while on the cross. A crown of thorns. And they dressed Him in purple, and after twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on Him; and they began saluting Him: “Hail, King of the Jews!” -excerpt Mark 15 And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, “Father, into Your hands I entrust My spirit.” And having said this, He died. -excerpt Luke 23 No Old Covenant law requiring women to wear a fabric covering. -(no Old Testament reference available) At least twice a woman's hair was not only visible to Jesus Himself, but it touched Him. Neither woman was rebuked. Since Jesus didn't care about fabric head coverings why should we? “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave me no water for my feet, but she has wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. You gave me no kiss, but from the time I came in she has not ceased to kiss my feet. You did not anoint my head with oil, but she has anointed my feet with ointment. Therefore I tell you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven-for she loved much. -excerpt Luke 7 Mary then took a pound of very expensive perfume of pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped His feet with her hair; and the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. But Judas Iscariot, one of His disciples, the one who intended to betray Him, said, “Why was this perfume not sold for three hundred denarii and the proceeds given to poor people?” Now he said this, not because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief, and as he kept the money box, he used to steal from what was put into it. Therefore Jesus said, “Leave her alone... -excerpt John 12 It can only mean the hair is the covering, as the NASB states here: Does even nature itself not teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her as a covering. If the covering was a physical covering, then hair length is irrelevant. No one would know if the woman had long hair or no hair. Also, if a woman needs to touch and pick up something physical, before she can communicate with God, that would make the fabric covering an idol. But one could also say it was a talisman I suppose, since a talisman could be an article of clothing. There is also an essay by 'FA'. It's about a 5 minute read. The full essay is available if requested. Excerpt here of post by FA: If these verses do not move you yet then here’s one that should definitely blow your mind. Paul asks you to make a judgment call in verse 13 as if one should naturally see a problem because he asks you to: "Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? " If “covering” really meant a veil then one would have to explain why anyone would possibly come up with a judgment that a woman praying or prophesying WITHOUT A FABRIC VEIL ON THEIR HEAD WOULD LOGICALLY OR NATURALLY LOOK WRONG? Someone needs to explain this logically. Be honest, does looking at someone doing this naturally create a thought that a veil is missing?
50:02... Final straw ..can't hear anymore... In the heart of my heart's I know u are wrong .. women pursuing career options is uncomfortable for everyone , except for the woman herself....
Jesus was a Nazarene and he had Long hair.. 1 Corinthians 11:14 “Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?” 1 Corinthians 11:15 “But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.” . Muslim women wear head covering, does that mean they are Holy ? Don't substitute a head covering for the Holy Spirit, the head covering can’t save you.!
We didn't debate about Christ's hair length. That was never the issue. But we do not agree with the Islamic version of head covering. A hijab is something where no hair are visible. That's not biblical. We simply mean a veil or a hat as a symbolic covering. Any woman praying uncovered is naked. End of story.
Jesus was a NAZARENE - a person from Nazareth. NOT. A nazarite - one who never cuts their hair. They are not the same and Jesus did not have long hair.
Our sins are covered by the Blood of Jesus... Is His Blood made of cloth ? The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin.- Is His Blood "Soap" ? .. You're confusing Worldly w/ Spiritual.---- But if that is what your husband wants you to do, than you are to honor him. .. 1 Corinthians 11:15 “But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.” Her Hair is her covering ------ Is hair made of cloth ? .. Your husband is your covering in the Lord, even if you leave him you're still bound to him Spiritually.. Romans 7:2 - 1 Corinth 7:39
That sounds like gnosticism. Yes, there are spiritual things, however, that does not mean physical ones are of no value. Maybe the cross Christ died on was merely spiritual too according to your logic?
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter The covering is something which covers the head apart from hair. You are deeply mistaken. Paul compares the covering to hair, but does not say it is the same. Somehow you think the entire early Church didn't know their Greek as far as wheat a covering means?
Our pastor spoke on 1 Cor. 11: 1-16 last Sunday, and brought out that it is speaking of a hierarchy of authority, nothing about superiority. God and Christ are equal, but there is an order of authority. Jesus was all about doing His Father's will. Men and women are equally God's children and valuable, but there is a hierarchy of authority. It's just something that makes the world work better.
