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@Dabasin 8 месяцев назад

Very happy to watch these every sunday morning, but as an Ex-Shipper of things and seeing a lot of inside of warehouses, couldn't help but ask. Add some small stumps for legs so that people in the warehouse can actually easily pick it up with forklifts. Ive seen a lot of mishandling of boxes that are relatively heavy or uncomfortable to be lifted by hand. While this box is small enough to be loaded on a pallet, something like a table or a cabinet isn't. I just think it would remove some stress of shipping something expensive, and make the job of curriers easier. Lovely video again :)

@gregoryharmon2348 8 месяцев назад

Dude.......that "shipping crate" was a work of art. Great video and I love your presentation and philosophy!

@toddroper7944 8 месяцев назад

This reminds me of a frankencrate I built when I was working at a wood shop in Texas. We had a butcherblock kitchen island we were shipping to a trade show but didn't have the right raw materials so had to build panels then stitch them together to build the actual crate. It made it to the show with no damage but gained a reputation as the ugliest crate ever constructed.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Hey if it works it works!

@valeriehenschel1590 8 месяцев назад

So, design the shipping box to become a long term functional storage piece for the client? Like hinge tip and instructions on how to add padded top, convert to pet house or firewood box, add adjustable feet, and/or use for garage storage? Added value for a required cost? Worth considering. My dad built a shipping box to send sister’s belongings to her in Hawaii (and back after graduation). That box became part of the family, used by several siblings as need dictated. 50 years, and it is still in use.

@BobMuir100 3 месяца назад

I think this is a great idea and it justifies the cost particularly when they are going to get a fine box regardless! Now if you can add extra here then you become unique, a leader in the sector?! Brilliant!! I shall offer such over here. Thank you Bob England

@spagellyfish4023 8 месяцев назад

As a hobbyist woodworker who might explore the business side of the craft, I really appreciate the transparency of your process and mentality of how you organise the logistics of your projects. Badass apron btw

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

I’m glad you found it helpful. And thanks! Totally stoked to have a new apron as slick as that.

@TWC6724 8 месяцев назад

You read my mind my friend. I was just thinking I wish a RU-vid woodworker would have a video on shipping freight!! Bam!! Here it is! As a hobby woodworker, I have always wondered about this subject. I have kind of avoided this subject. Thank you!

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Glad I could help! It’s one of those dark holes of woodworking so I thought maybe it would have some value 👊

@mcapo3040 8 месяцев назад

I love how your videos go into topics not regularly seen and you're always just yourself; it's a breath of fresh air in RU-vid land :)

@bridgetl.303 6 месяцев назад

Just found your channel today! Great content! Having a career in the Military, I learned to pack up things that were valuable to me so that they wouldn’t be damaged in the many moves I had. The first move was a real learning experience, where I “trusted” the packers to do their job. I had so much damage: mainly picture frames! I used the same construction for my boxes as you, only I would save the boxes for the next move. Love the box you put in the box!

@danlynch1154 8 месяцев назад

Great topic, great video! Thanks!

@ndamico1 8 месяцев назад

Jeez the shipping box is damn nice! Also, your advise is always spot on and timely! Happy Saturday my man!

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Happy Saturday to you as well!

@royunderwood7514 8 месяцев назад

Great video. Definitely helped me see how shipping items doesn’t have to be overly complicated.

@jimrosson6702 8 месяцев назад

Great video as always great tips for small woodworking businesses and just all around your videos are so inspiring and what you do for the woodworking community in a hole Thank you

@caseystein1227 8 месяцев назад

One of the best and most commercially realist videos you’ve made.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Appreciate that 👊

@scottcallan3897 8 месяцев назад

What a great message today. I will support this because of what you do. Thank you

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Thank you 👊

@thomasweller1321 8 месяцев назад

Ya know, every new video sends me into a new realm of "wanting to make something"! Your real teaching style is fantastic and truly motivational.. I was a teacher, and I know how hard it is to motivate students. You're doing it on a way bigger platform than I ever tried. I retired in the last century. Thank you for all that you do for the woodworking community. I am entering the business of selling my "things" to finance a new Saw Stop table saw. Your attention to detail inspires me.

@tommoeller7149 8 месяцев назад

Great tutorial on a very neglected topic. Thx.

@paulmaryon9088 8 месяцев назад

Hey buddy, another great and informative video, thank you, some excellent advice there, see you on the next one, stay cool

@Tensquaremetreworkshop 4 месяца назад

I am reminded of those expensive handags- that come in a bag to protect it....

@brentw8014 8 месяцев назад

You sir are a gentleman and an artist! Thank you for motivating us.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Thank you so much 👊

@davidmeyer9204 8 месяцев назад

Thank you Erik. As said before, not something you see on You Tube, But very important. Thanks Again

@neevi2001 8 месяцев назад

Hey! Great boxes you made there (both the commissioned piece and the shipping box) I really appreciate the woodworking content you upload. It's very informative and educative for someone who is just getting started on this journey of woodworking and who doesn't have the resources to learn in the place they live in. A small request if you have time, but could you make a video on your experience at the Centre for Furniture Craftsmanship or maybe a video on some good institutes offering woodworking courses around the world. It would be really helpful to have someone from the field with experience share and give insight on this. Again, a big thank you for sharing and making such good content and I hope you keep doing it in the future too.

@sampletaster5093 8 месяцев назад

Nice crate but having built hundreds of crates myself I have found just using OSB and skipping the frame is lower cost. The 1x material is the most expensive part. The little added weight is usually not noticeable in the freight cost. I can usually knock out a crate in a couple of hours. I also use styrofoam insulation board to line the crate for padding. Be sure to added extra pad to avoid rubbing damage.

@JeffFontecchio 8 месяцев назад

Very helpful information, thanks for sharing.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Thanks as always for the support and engagement, Jeff 👊

@mixmastudio5189 6 месяцев назад

Better to use 1x4 and 2x4 (or 4x4) pine framing and 1/2" OSB. The bottom should have either 2x4 or 4x4 skids running parallel lengthwise otherwise the forklift won't have anything to pick it up from and forklift tines will puncture the side walls of the crate, and 1/4" plywood is not going to resist a forklift puncture. No need to use wood glue or drill any holes. Use a nail gun to temporarily put together the crate components together if you have one, but could use glue. Screws are better. Use 2-3" screws to assemble the crate. Assemble the sides and attach the top panel last. Leave 2-4" around all sides of just empty air on the inside. Don't use thick foam on the inside walls as you don't want the furniture coming in contact with the walls of the crate as any loads from shipping will transfer through the foam and to the piece. Wrap with plastic wrap or foam and install feet or corner protection using another material like cardboard or rubber foam. Tie the furniture piece down to the floor of the crate with straps wrapped in heavy duty corner protection material where they touch the furniture. Take pictures of the way the crate is made inside and out for evidence if you need to file a shipping claim. Don't worry about the weight of the crate as it is not much of a factor in shipping price, in fact it is cheaper to ship heavy furniture than lightweight furniture as the freight class is lower. Give clients a rough estimate of shipping and crating cost at the beginning but bill them separately for it at the end as the rates and materials fluctuate in cost. If the order volume changes during the production process then it can be difficult to detach any built-in shipping fess and make sure you are charging the correct amount by the time you ship. --- Mixma Studio, Guadalajara, Mexico.

@philaandrew100 8 месяцев назад

Yhep. I remember shipping my first custom build Guitar across Australia and the stress that caused. If not for the advice and help from my Mentor I would, some 35 years later, still be in therapy🤣 This was a most excellent video and one that you should tag to the top of your play list.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

I’m glad you can relate to the stress 😂 and thanks my dude!

@einsteinbpc 8 месяцев назад

Man you’ve done it again. Good solid advice, and the sponsorship section was uplifting and motivational. Thanks so much for this content it’s my new favourite way to spend a quiet Saturday morning. Cheers.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

I really appreciate that. Cheers my guy.

@michaelthompson5875 8 месяцев назад

Keep your shirt on Erik, this is a family channel. Just kidding. I appreciate that you find topics that almost no other woodworking channels cover. Design especially, but shipping is one that is quite important if you want to make a business of it but is easily overlooked. Im not at the moment, but still watched start to finish. Thank you sir. One comment though. Make sure to paint "Fra-geel-ay" (it must be Italian) on top of the crate.

@donesry2902 8 месяцев назад

It’s a major award

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Oh I write that on every one and just hope someone gets the joke 😂

@SwearingenTurnings 8 месяцев назад

I'll be shipping my first table from Maryland to Louisiana soon; this video is just what I needed!

@AnonymousUser1776 8 месяцев назад

Brother, this channel is consistently thoughtful and positive. Bravo.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

I really appreciate that brother. Thank you.

@mrstandfast2212 8 месяцев назад

What are the odds that when the client receives the crate, they carefully dismantle it and then reassemble it? I certainly would. We're all big kids at heart, and any parent will tell you that kids play with the box more than they play with the toy.

@joeworkman 8 месяцев назад

It must be a very good commission if you are taking the time to mill the wood to build the crate!!! Keep up the good work.

@mikedurkee7296 8 месяцев назад

You are a good dude Curtis, I want to get me some of that merch!

@BillMSmith 8 месяцев назад

Good idea building the shipping costs into the original quote. People really hate add on fees, even if the total ends up the same. For larger pieces than UPS handles there are usually freight forwarders who will get it onto a truck for you.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Nobody likes last minute costs. Just adding a reasonable flat fee on the end makes everyone feel better for sure.

@allystrya 8 месяцев назад

Well holy cow… by the end of your sponsor info I had plumb forgot it was a sponsor info. That is marvelous salesmanship 😂😂 My neighbor owns a Prius and while she has zippity-doo-dah to do with woodworking, she wants a shirt. I told her long ago about yours and thought it was the best thing ever LOL 🤗 I would kill for a shirt or sign or a sticker or push button voice recording that says, “Get in the shop. Go make a thing.”. It is just perfect and, to me, represents your philosophies many of which keep me active in my creative processes instead of my own head (if that makes sense,). I have Laura Kamp’s,” Every Defect, Gets Respect.” Jimmy Diresta’s, “If it looks straight it is straight.” So now I need, “Get in the shop. Go make a thing.”. I can’t bat my eyelashes so I will aim for a cheesy smile. 😁 😂😂😂

@michaelholmstrom7677 8 месяцев назад

As a bowl turner, I actually size my finished bowls to fit in flat rate boxes to easily calculate shipping for online orders. Now I just need more online orders.

@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork 8 месяцев назад

Bro. You are such a great guy! Fantastic video and work - love the altruism here!

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Appreciate you brother!

@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork 8 месяцев назад

@@ENCurtis keep killing it my man

@dwayneford1990 8 месяцев назад

Hey Erik, love watching your videos. I love your relaxed, conversational style too. It really draws me in. Listen, would you be open to doing a video on how YOU would make a beautiful mallet? I've watched a ton of videos to get some ideas but I'm thinking you would probably take a unique approach to the design, function and build of a good mallet. Please keep it in mind. I know a lot of woodworkers would love to see you do that. Cheers..

@twcmaker 8 месяцев назад

Shipping is the worst. It's not so bad now I've done it 30-40 times. But those first ones, where the customer has spent a lot of money and the pieces are getting there a week before an event... That's scary head stuff going on, just because the worry of not getting there or being damaged. Closer ones I really like. Put the piece on the back seat and drive there. Those are easy fun. Great video as always 👍. Keep up with the beautiful channel. Jamie

@electronsmove 5 месяцев назад

Should have put some C channel across the bottom of the box to stop it from warping.

@Shadowveil26 5 месяцев назад

I’d never dispose of a beautiful crate like that. I’d use it to make something else.

@dpmeyer4867 8 месяцев назад

thanks

@tims6540 4 месяца назад

Hoodies with zipper are dope

@jaredpgrigg 7 месяцев назад

The "handling" in "shipping and handling"

@yoohoo8017 8 месяцев назад

Love your videos, mate. I send a huge picture frame from Australia to Germany. Made from Jarrah I thought it was pretty much indestructible, but somehow they still managed to crack it. Even the toughest sometimes needs a bit more padding 😂

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Gotta pack it out tight! I once had someone drive a forklift directly into the side of the crate 😬 but thankfully the padding kept it from any immense damage.

@AndrewFrink 8 месяцев назад

dispose of the crate pieces?! that's a great box for a storage closet, or the basement, or whatever.

@SWA-Projects 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the encouraging video about shipping. I would like to do that one day also. As always great content from a reliable and trustworthy channel . I commented on one of your other videos that your channel is on my top 10, now it’s on my top 3 👍

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Thanks man!

@BobMuir100 3 месяца назад

So……I have watched may be 12 of your videos and whilst I enjoy them (and you very much) I have not yet subscribed as I am a hobbyist that occasionally ‘sells’ something by mistake really and you seem to be for the far far better folk than I am. You often appear to knock such as I with comments such as ‘…….professionals don’t use stain……..’ well here’s some news buddy …… I an NOT a professional and I do use stain and I am watching your channel!! Today you made a video that I could use, really use as I do ship those ‘sales’ and I do send pieces to friends and family around the country. Now you have my subscription. Another good video Sir. Bob England

@RichyN25 8 месяцев назад

as a newer woodworker, starting his own LLC as well, shipping is my biggest thing I struggle with, I enjoy building stuff, the process, and spending time making sawdust, but shipping is hard

@walterrider9600 8 месяцев назад

thank you EN . wow you hit the nail on the head . i want to make my daughter a 24' x 36' chest blanket . was not sure on how to get it from ga to west end of tx . too darn old to take it too her . now days

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

A big outside box for a big inside box. It’s the matryoshka doll of boxes.

@walterrider9600 8 месяцев назад

@@ENCurtis thank you . i really enjoy the info you put out .

@RobCoops 8 месяцев назад

When shipping it is not both the weight and the volume that matters... it is either or. The way this works is if I am shipping 20 cubic feet of pingpong balls in that case you pay based on the volume, if you where to ship 20 cubic feet of lead you would pay based on the weight. You pay which ever one of these two measurements results in a higher price. The reasoning is simple you can only ship so much volume and so much weight in a truck, plane on a ship, so which ever contributes most to the limits is what you pay for. (Yes, I worked for one of the largest international freight shippers in the world for quite a few years) This is why most products are shipped in cardboard or plastic it weighs less. This is why, when building a box, the thinnest and lightest product you can get away with is your best option it can save you a lot. If you are doing large volumes, it is worth to work with your shipper and see if you can agree on a discount based on regular shipments with minimum weight/volume.

@andykg73 8 месяцев назад

you even make good looking shipping crates. Are there no end to your talents!

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

You don’t want to see me dance… 🤣

@matteout_woodworking 8 месяцев назад

I find shipping intimidating. The last time I needed to ship something it was a big item and it would have cost thousands. Ended up driving it there but I learned that sometimes you can make thousands by driving something 5 hours away.

@emptyheads7989 8 месяцев назад

agh, I was going o say that

@josepharchuleta9809 8 месяцев назад

I can’t stop looking at your coffee mug

@mikedodsonlabview 8 месяцев назад

Eric, you missed one piece of merch for your site. That mug! OMG, that would sell! 😜. Great video as always!

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

If I had David make a series of those mugs I would ABSOLUTELY sell them!

@benjaminwilbur2202 5 месяцев назад

Erik: Videos....Well Done

@brianwyszynski7345 8 месяцев назад

Any chance of getting him to draw the naked wood sculpture on a shirt? And I think it should say a cabinet makers SUV 😄

@yramagicman675 8 месяцев назад

Dangit! You did something unexpected. You made me care about your sponsor spot. That's not an experience I've had often. I loved the story telling in your sponsor spot.

@MikeyDonna 8 месяцев назад

I was wondering, with the shipping of this box did you figure in the cost of your labor, electric to run you shop during the build , the basic cost per square foot of your shop, rent heat cooling , depreciation of equipment and maintenance, insurance , liability & personal plus a few things I probably forgot like city business license etc.

@RobSHoglund 8 месяцев назад

Your shipping crates are nicer than my finished pieces…😂😂😂

@stratmatt73 8 месяцев назад

Hell, that shipping crate would look great in my living room...

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Haha it’s got an industrial chic vibe to it

@yossiyaari3760 8 месяцев назад

Great video. Isn't planing the poplar on all four sides over kill for a crate? or was that a brand image decision?

@garethbaker3429 7 месяцев назад

Never mind the shirt, where do we get the mug!

@craigstoddard7202 8 месяцев назад

I have a comment on your finishing video. I wanted to know if I can do the same mixture using Tungoil instead of the Liberon oil

@outdoorodysseys6622 8 месяцев назад

I hate to ask a non-woodworking based question. But where did you get that mug? I love it.

@herpderp4908 Месяц назад

00:06 how do i what?! *winds back 10sec* ...oooh...

@timothyplumley6004 8 месяцев назад

"The joiner and the cabinet maker" a book of learning and a story ( wonderfully reprinted by lost art press) says slightly the same thing. But the journey is part of the story.

@robandsharonseddon-smith5216 8 месяцев назад

I've nothing useful to say but I understand that comments help in some way!

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

They sure do! And I appreciate it!

@blayne2029 8 месяцев назад

doesn't someone sell shipping crates in different sizes? Seems like that would be more cost effective. But maybe it's not.

@KOutOfMyYard 8 месяцев назад

Boom. Just bought 2 Ts👊🏾

@donesry2902 8 месяцев назад

Thanks! I have been wanting to ship a couple of different pieces that I’m working on now so your video is right on time for me. I was thinking the minimum plywood would be 1/2 inch and I would need to pack it with insulation foam board and I was thinking that it would be a much bigger thing that what you showed. I really appreciate it!

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

That would also absolutely work. But it is heavier and more involved. 1/4” and blankets will get the job done for 90% of the things we make.

@Gr8GooglyMoogly 8 месяцев назад

Not sure if it is an issue or not, but on the pages for each of the new merch items available, it says campaign ends in 7 days, which would be 10/23, not 11/23. Also, as someone with a degree in industrial design but severely lacking in sketching abilities, the artist did a great job transferring your designs to 2D.

@weirdnewworld1736 8 месяцев назад

That was fantastic! What did you do with the draw (with the little handle) and top?

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Not sure what part your asking about?

@weirdnewworld1736 8 месяцев назад

@@ENCurtis The drawer has a small pull on it - did you, say, wrap and remove the drawer and put it inside, or leave it in? Same with the top, did you worry about it chattering at all, wrap it separately, etc..? If the crate you made (gorgeous!) is the macro packing, what does the more micro packing look like. Thanks, love your videos!

@Jacksterific 8 месяцев назад

What kinda saw and fence are you driving there, hoss? Both appear to be very large. Way bigger than the standard Unisaw types. Or do all objects in your shop appear to larger than real life? Great content. Shipping will eat you up both mentally and financially - usually only once. Wish I had seen this 15 years ago. Much owwie.

@georgeslater4020 8 месяцев назад

You should put some how the woman body on a t-shirt that would be awesome a a huge seller

@andrewmalick477 8 месяцев назад

Curtis, do I just go to the post office or fedex with this container like normal? Or do I need to arrange anything ahead of time when shipping freight? Where do I take it at the store? Haha Thanks for any insight

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Yes you can just walk into a store with the crate (I tend to go to UPS because it’s closest)! They’ll measure and weigh the crate and give you a price, just like if you were to ship a small package. Same exact thing. Just bigger.

@johnk6352 8 месяцев назад

Came to believe...

@DuncanEllis 8 месяцев назад

I'm going to take the American format date in the explanation of when Thanksgiving is "for our non-American friends" as a joke, and it is a good one.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

I’m glad someone got the joke about us ignorant Americans 👊

@michaelhenderson4706 7 месяцев назад

Oh yeah, make sure that sh*t's insured for the shipment. Freight companies suck and eventually, someone's going to put a fork through your crate. On 2nd thought, maybe over-insure a lil' bit 😂

@SeamusMcClintock 8 месяцев назад

23/11 for non Americans actually.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

Indubitably.

@NobukiPhu 8 месяцев назад

😂😂😂😂😂 I was also thinking, "there isn't twenty three months in a year." Haha.

@MrsEarth-pf4cr 8 месяцев назад

Sorry boo, I've been missing your videos; however, not because another woodworker has been taking your place. Never that!

@tonysutton6559 8 месяцев назад

The crate is too good to dispose of. I bet 90% of your customers would find a use for it, even if it is just for a log box in the garage.

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

I hope they do! No reason to waste if they can make use of it

@brentjenkinsdesigns 8 месяцев назад

Very very carefully. 😂

@ENCurtis 8 месяцев назад

It’s the only way 😬

@stuartansell9461 8 месяцев назад

👊

@dabeamer42 6 месяцев назад

Nothing I make needs that kind of shipping -- although I did once make a simple stepstool for my granddaughter and had to ship it 600 miles. I wound up putting it in a box that the shippers use to ship a set of golf clubs. Bulky, but it worked, and I didn't have to build anything. A question that I've wanted to ask forever: what is the music you use? It's not listed in your description. That drop-D acoustic guitar (dobro?), with the relaxed finger-picking is just such an excellent accompaniment. I'd be interested in picking up a recording or two from that performer.