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The Hidden Genius of Kickassia 

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Going back for a look at the first online video series I ever paid attention to- the Nostalgia Critic- and the first feature he ever produced, the infamous low budget internet punchline Kickassia.
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00:00 Intro
01:35 The Nostalgia Critic
09:04 Kickassia
32:51 The Decline
39:09 Doug now
49:19 End card
*Disclaimer: The guy in the yellow hat you'll see in the video and the movie was a content creator who went by the name of Jewwario. Nobody knew at the time of making the film on or off set, but he turned out to be a sexual predator, and took his own life a few years after being asked to leave the site. I decided not to draw focus to this in the video because I felt doing so would be worse than giving him that kind of attention - I don't feel his existence in the film can hurt anyone anymore, but obviously those who know may not feel good about viewing the content at all and I completely understand why.

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@PsychadelicoDuck
@PsychadelicoDuck Год назад
This feels so strangely meta. Our collective experience with Doug Walker is now the weird fever dreams we had when we were younger and are now sharing back and forth to assure each other "yes, it really did happen". Kickassia is truly the new "We're Back: A Dinosaur Story".
@36inc
@36inc Год назад
I fucking love that film still.
@creed8712
@creed8712 Год назад
Somebody has to remember it so we don’t have to, a Santa Christ to take on these memetic sins
@Lark1610
@Lark1610 Год назад
I had no clue there was such a phenomenon when it comes to WE'RE BACK, but I literally was randomly reminded about that film existing few weeks ago in a "did it really happen" fashion.
@quintenlizardmen2497
@quintenlizardmen2497 10 месяцев назад
@dots45 What?
@FistfulOfDogecoin
@FistfulOfDogecoin 10 месяцев назад
Just googled «Were back dinosaur movie», and OH MY GOD I FORGOT ABOUT THIS!!
@TenebraeUbr
@TenebraeUbr Год назад
"Midlife crisis by someone who's barely allowed themselves to live a life at all" somehow hits me hard when I'm only just past my quarterlife crisis.
@hamsterdragon
@hamsterdragon Год назад
same
@moosesues8887
@moosesues8887 Год назад
I’m at my end life crisis
@unduloid
@unduloid 27 дней назад
That's nothing. I am having a perpetual _life_ crisis.
@ApocalypticRenegade
@ApocalypticRenegade Год назад
I'll say this for Kickassia. It is for sure my favourite film featuring Noah Antwiler.
@sambesiili4698
@sambesiili4698 Год назад
Goddamn, i haven't heard that name in a long time
@38procentkrytyk
@38procentkrytyk Год назад
Poor Noah. I hope he's better now.
@TectonicImprov
@TectonicImprov Год назад
@@38procentkrytyk seems to be. He's been streaming recently and in good spirits in those streams
@BMask
@BMask Год назад
It's been really nice seeing Spoony pull through in those new interviews. He needed help and I hope he's getting it, wish him nothing but the best moving forward.
@Deadchannel1737
@Deadchannel1737 Год назад
same for me besides the spoony movie of course ! :D
@smurvin
@smurvin Год назад
Funny how Brad was the first one banished in Kickassia and now he's the only contributor whose still friends with Doug; life did NOT imitate art there!
@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 6 месяцев назад
The ammount of harrasment he got for that was totally uncalled for.
@tgeFallman
@tgeFallman 6 месяцев назад
People tried to get him SWATed just because he stood by his friend. I still get pissed off with that fact.
@madmachanicest9955
@madmachanicest9955 2 месяца назад
In reality many of the creators from kickassia are still friends with Dug and Spoon to this day. There falling out form many was professional not personal
@knightofarkronia9968
@knightofarkronia9968 Месяц назад
@@madmachanicest9955I sure hope that this is the case. From what I can tell, Doug isn’t a bad person, he’s just too passive for his own good.
@MajinGatomon
@MajinGatomon 5 дней назад
@@knightofarkronia9968 Well, you cannot forget... Nostalgia Critic does not belong to Doug. He basically sold out. And if you are employed, you will most likely have a contract where you are forbidden from talking about certain stuff.
@Lindsek
@Lindsek Год назад
You made me realize that I had essentially the same journey - I watched Doug as a kid who was just beginning to understand media appreciation and critique, and I felt seen in a time when this space wasn’t the completely over-saturated market it is today. We didn’t have better options. Now that I’m older and can choose from other niches, I left Doug behind, and it became much easier to do after the Channel Awesome debacle. But I do believe he’s sincere no matter how it comes off, and his love for movies is real. Like the technically weird or low quality movies he riffed on, I can’t hate him, because he’s my childhood. I also, thankfully, never had a parasocial relationship with any of those people, so I was never in a position to be hurt by them. I totally get it if people feel more harshly than I do. Anyway, this was a refreshingly compassionate and honest retrospective, and I’m happy to be in your niche. 😉
@avalanchemkii7506
@avalanchemkii7506 Год назад
This is either going to be the best B-Mask video or the last B-Mask video. Either way, it's been an honor.
@blackout295
@blackout295 Год назад
My thoughts exactly.
@merlowbarret3533
@merlowbarret3533 Год назад
Can you give me context as to why this could be the last b mask video?
@seanedwards3536
@seanedwards3536 Год назад
@@merlowbarret3533 because Doug
@fsikijelfes8660
@fsikijelfes8660 Год назад
Lol
@heartnet40
@heartnet40 Год назад
B-Mask's real last video is going to be the one where he finally talks about Lindsey Ellis. 💀
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 Год назад
Dr. Insano has like 5 different backstories: -He is the alter ego of Spoony. -He is Spoony from the future after going insane playing Final Fantasy 8. -He is from Zeist from Highlander 2: The Quickening. -He is an Al Bhed from Final Fantasy 10. -He is one of the Schlumper Brothers from Party Mania. Did I miss anything?
@madmachanicest9955
@madmachanicest9955 2 месяца назад
Yes the real origin that was give by the Noah one him self. Spoony is bipolar and his manic tendencies were channeled into the character of doctor insano. Making the character in Santo a pseudo alternate personality for Noah Atwater AKA spoony himself. His age and mental health is the largest reason you don't see him online anymore
@Joshua-pt1ck
@Joshua-pt1ck Год назад
Can’t believe Nintendo took inspiration of this cinematic masterpiece for Fire Emblem: Three Houses
@train4292
@train4292 Год назад
Wait, are you serious-
@verylostdoommarauder
@verylostdoommarauder Год назад
That's the plot?
@122123
@122123 Год назад
Doug takes massive swings, He misses a lot but he just keeps swingin. I can respect that
@SUNSHINE-t-m
@SUNSHINE-t-m Год назад
Has he ever not missed?
@122123
@122123 Год назад
@@SUNSHINE-t-m Melvin brother of the joker is an avant garde masterpiece
@darko1295
@darko1295 Год назад
@@SUNSHINE-t-m A lot of his pre Demo Reel reviews are pretty ok for what they are (that being not actual credible movie reviews and more cheaply made comedic retellings of bad 80s/90s movies and taking easy shots at their quality). I'd even argue some of them hold up today. That statement, however, is based purely on memories from the last time I was still enjoying NC enough to sometimes binge his old videos which was sometime in the mid 2010s, so take that with a grain of salt. One thing I'd always give Doug is that he has always played the NC as a non-animated cartoon character and sometimes the silly over-the-top facial expressions, mic-killing screeching and his running gags managed to work. The more he upped the budget and the more stupidly pretentious and self-serious he got over the years, the cringier it got though.
@Maxisamo1
@Maxisamo1 Год назад
@@122123 Melvin Brother of the Joker is used in Guantanamo Bay torture programs
@yareyarejose5080
@yareyarejose5080 Год назад
@@duncanohoge part of that has to do with him starting when he did cuz looking back on his reviews i cant believe i enjoyed them, and his content has remained static
@ringossolochristmas9689
@ringossolochristmas9689 Год назад
I’m glad Doug Walker said the words “fish people” all those years ago so that B-mask could use the audio in this video ✊😮‍💨
@cubialpha
@cubialpha Год назад
doug always said he was going for daffy duck with his critic persona, and tbh he nails the physical comedy, line delivery and timing of a cartoon character in his performance. he has a real talent for playing the critic
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 Год назад
cringe pfp
@tgeFallman
@tgeFallman Год назад
​@@josephleebob3828says the blue turd as a pfp.
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 Год назад
@@tgeFallman na bros blind
@ianstratton
@ianstratton Год назад
I was hesitant to watch this at first because I find a lot of videos about the Nostalgia Critic tend to be mean spirited with a smug sense of superiority ("lolz! This is such unfunny cringe! How could anyone ever like this stuff!? I'm so much smarter by mocking it!!"). You were actually honest in your feelings, provided proper context, and gave Doug credit where credit was due. Great job!
@darkchocolate1083
@darkchocolate1083 Год назад
I agree. I admit that I was swept in a little bit myself after the controversy, but looking back people were being incredibly melodramatic about it. At the end of the day it’s just dumb fun.
@leviticusprime4904
@leviticusprime4904 5 месяцев назад
@@darkchocolate1083at the end of the day, what did the controversy even achieve?
@BansheeNeet
@BansheeNeet Год назад
Refreshing take on Doug Walker that analyzes his work from the angle of "Hey, we used to like this guy, maybe there was a reason why beyond just us being dumb kids?", don't necessarily agree with everything on Kickassia but this video brings a lot up about his career that's worth considering, great video.
@Rorschach003
@Rorschach003 Год назад
My thing with these creators is that a lot of them had aspirations of making it in the movie business. James, Lindsay, and Doug all went to film school hoping to become directors and Noah wanted to be a Hollywood actor and every single one of them thought this whole RU-vid thing would just be their jumping off point. It makes me sad to think that at some point they all realized that this is as good as it gets for them. They will never make it to Hollywood and they accepted that.
@IkeOkerekeNews
@IkeOkerekeNews 6 месяцев назад
And maybe their lives are better for it.
@NounOzlos
@NounOzlos 2 месяца назад
Lindsay is a bit different, seeing as she’s also actually a successful published author of an ongoing sci-fi series.
@2dcreative94
@2dcreative94 Год назад
I am so glad to know that Dan's statement about Doug didn't rub only me the wrong way. It makes sense in the context of "The Wall" but characterizing everything Doug has ever done this way? Calling some guy clearly doing stuff for fun "fundamentally" unable to create something is so cruel, and it becomes a daunting thought for other people who want to make stuff but are afraid of making mistakes (well, like me). Thank you, B-Mask, for this video! It is motivating in a way - the fact that someone can still appreciate good qualities of a flawed project made with love after all these years
@train4292
@train4292 Год назад
I did like his video, but the insinuation that some people are just “objectively” unable to make something good made me feel off. I mean, M.Night Shyamalan made the Avatar the last airbender live action movie, and other flubs, but he still made stuff like the sixth sense. Anyone can make a piece of media great, and not great. It’s not as ridge as Dan tries to make it out to be.
@octagonseventynine1253
@octagonseventynine1253 Год назад
People who aren’t talented artists should be told that so they don’t waste their life. And no, not anyone can make a piece of media great. Art requires talent and hard work. Just because you want to be an artist doesn’t automatically make you one. Feelings have nothing to do with skill.
@2dcreative94
@2dcreative94 Год назад
@@octagonseventynine1253 I don't know where you found that in my comment
@train4292
@train4292 Год назад
@@octagonseventynine1253 So people can only do something if they’re only talented at it? I dunno about you, that seems pretty limiting to me. I’d argue putting in the work to learning a craft, and using the experience you had on learning it to make something matters more. Besides, a lot of the time people aren’t just born with the specific talent they have. They had to spend a long amount of time mastering it on their own. Again, it’s not ridge.
@aolson1111
@aolson1111 Год назад
@@octagonseventynine1253 Waste his life according to who? I'm pretty sure Doug likes being an online movie reviewer more than he likes being a janitor, or whatever he did before.
@KOTYAR1
@KOTYAR1 Год назад
I've learned English because of Channel Awesome. It has a very dedicated community of Russian translators and dubbers working to this very day. I've translated one episode of Angry Joe, took an entire week.
@DuskNinjaKenji
@DuskNinjaKenji 11 месяцев назад
You guys are the dedicated ones, much respect for you guys for translating so many videos. 🫡
@foreverdirt1615
@foreverdirt1615 Год назад
I frequently watch old nostalgia critic videos, and I'm always impressed by how well they hold up, despite what I've heard some other people say. The tight, purely satirical writing of the early nostalgia critic episodes combined with Doug's very natural charisma as an entertainer (being that animated and interesting is not an easy thing to do) made the show into something very rewatchable. Whenever I put on an old nostalgia critic, I am guaranteed to laugh out loud a few times, and I often end up laughing all the way through. I am not an easy laugher. It takes a lot to impress me. It leaves me kind of baffled about what ruined the nostalgia critic for so many former fans, because I've seen a lot of people talking as if those episodes don't hold up, but I find them so compellingly charming and vintage. I can't get behind all of this post-2018 revisionism.
@_vlpin
@_vlpin Год назад
Couldn't have agreed more! His acting and comedic timing is impeccable in the old videos, I myself rewatch them from time to time as well.
@arjay9745
@arjay9745 Год назад
This is the most interesting take in this comment section. Being an (ahem) older person, I saw the NC through the eyes of my teen-aged sons, who adored him. Of course, much of what they loved on the (to me) magical new Internet seemed a tad immature to someone my age, but it was fun watching how he inspired them, and I found him honestly funny and insightful enough to justify his career choice. Does a critic have to always be right or should they simply get you thinking about a film? I think the latter, and the content was for a young audience anyway, so it didn't need to be profound. It just had to be a good introduction to the subject. Anyway, when RU-vid recently recommended a video to me heavily criticising his work, I was baffled, so I looked up Channel Awesome today and watched a few reviews (more adult versions of the old NC, totally watchable), then hit the old ThatGuyWithTheGlasses content, and found them pretty much as I remembered. I was left feeling that what most people have probably come to dislike about Doug is that he reminds them of their own aging and must therefore be unceremoniously consigned to the back of the desk drawer like a photo that shows you in a gawky stage of development.
@lolbeamer
@lolbeamer Год назад
W
@SithLordMalco
@SithLordMalco Год назад
I know its unlikely but i would love to see B-Mask make more videos about the Internet Culture back in the day. Like a whole retrospective on companies like Channel Awesome,Screwattack,Rooster Teeth,Machinma and a like
@SithLordMalco
@SithLordMalco Год назад
You could make an entire video on the impact Goku vs Superman 1 has had on the internet
@psychomammoth9640
@psychomammoth9640 Год назад
I would love more of B-Mask’s retrospective of the “Channel Awesome Universe”.
@BMask
@BMask Год назад
I'll be honest, this is probably it in terms of big internet personalities and especially Channel Awesome, I kind of put everything I'd want to say publicly in this one video. But I won't rule out internet culture videos indefinitely, could happen again!
@PrimatePunk
@PrimatePunk Год назад
I would recommend checking out blushades channel out to scratch that itch you have. Their channel covers youtube poops, old Newgrounds artists and memes from the 2010's.
@Strick-IX
@Strick-IX Год назад
The Gilded Age.
@xxProjectJxx
@xxProjectJxx Год назад
I've never viewed Kickassia as an unintentional allegory for all of That Guy with the Glasses, but it makes perfect sense now.
@ZachGatesHere
@ZachGatesHere Год назад
The fact that Doug has always been willing to throw himself 100% into whatever he has a desire to do will always put me on his side. Like, yeah, he's lacking in filmmaking proficiency, but that's all right. He's still giving it his all. His appeal was also HUGE for people his age, because of shared memories. And yes I'm just at the beginning but that watermelon/sangria bit killed me.
@TehSkullKid
@TehSkullKid Год назад
I made an edit of this movie once, where the opening was just the first few minutes of the Princess Bride, cutting to the beginning of the film right when the grandpa begins the story, to trick you into thinking you were going to be seeing another movie. Then it periodically cuts back to the frame narrative as the kid is getting increasingly confused and worried over his grandpa's mental state as he continues telling the story of Kickassia. Also, many of Linkara's lines were replaced with Oney from Oneyplays doing his Linkara impersonation, placed in a way that turned his character into a violent rival that wanted to seize power from the critic, while no one else seemed to care.
@averagefez
@averagefez Год назад
okay, I need to see this #ReleaseTheTheSkullKidCut
@limabarreto911
@limabarreto911 Год назад
That sounds really funny, where can I find it?
@JubbJubb_
@JubbJubb_ 4 месяца назад
Post this shit bro!!
@colonel1003
@colonel1003 4 месяца назад
one day a comment that starts with “I made a(n)” will be true
@shaggyrogers8869
@shaggyrogers8869 4 месяца назад
Please we beg to you, make it a youtube video!
@ITSMeatMan
@ITSMeatMan Год назад
I’ve always loved Doug’s unwavering spirit of creativity. He just keeps on making stuff and it’s not all good but some of it is, and there’s genuine passion and care, which is all that matters really
@jakedanielsen4512
@jakedanielsen4512 Год назад
He's like Neil Breen, and that truly, actually unironically deserves respect
@SonicKick
@SonicKick Год назад
I personally get annoyed with a lot of creators who criticize Doug without looking at the full picture. This is one of those cases where that isn't the case. Thanks for the vid.
@DianaGohan
@DianaGohan Год назад
Same. And granted there are a lot of solid takes on Doug's work and their failures over the years but even Lady Emily recent re-review of Walter's references to Demo Reel last year and talking about the clipless review aren't going over his more recent reviews and him scaling back and changing some as a reviewer. The reviews still don't always work and quite honestly he really should only do sketches with review if he has an idea for them that isn't just "a bunch of meta references every other week at the middle and end of a video vaguely tying to the review itself" but yeah it's not as overly obnoxious cringe as some seem to think it is and quite honestly he still has good points and videos with his criticism... probably not hitting any of the comedic highs of yesteryear but still some solid ones.
@chrisossu2070
@chrisossu2070 Год назад
Just because he was the face of Channel Awesome, people seem to go in to the controversy with the assumption that he's in charge, and that all of its failures lay with him. When I actually looked at everything, his worst sin was just that he never grew the backbone to cash in his reputation to actually take charge and fix the site's wide-scale problems, preferring to bury himself in his own work and hoping that the people above him could smooth things over. Keep in mind that most of the terrible decisions were either made by Mike Michaud or to a lesser extent Rob and that Doug didn't even own the Nostalgia Critic character out of a shortsighted decision to sign over the character rights, meaning he was trapped by contracts like the other producers were. Much of the bad blood between the former producers and Doug (that really feels one-sided on the former producers' end) feels a lot like them believing Doug had the pull to fix their problems, and when coupled with Doug's tendency to get lost in his own ideas and workflow during his collaborations with them, they assumed that Doug never cared about them in any capacity, which then bled into their analyses of his work, the flaws just symptomatic of him just being a shitty person. And that's the image they ended up spreading to everyone else online. Obviously, this is from an outsider's perspective rather than someone who was there to witness the whole thing. I'm not friends with any of them, so I obviously wouldn't have the level of emotional investment to really feel the way any of them do. To me, it just doesn't feel like the problems with Channel Awesome were Doug's sins alone to bear.
@yareyarejose5080
@yareyarejose5080 Год назад
@@chrisossu2070 i think the best way to describe it is when you have an abusive father- people tend to fear the father and resent the mother. though looking back on it most of the CH contributors dont seem to have anything against doug beyond what went down with those anniversary films, which as someone who has worked in films, i can sympathize with. the conditions seem hellish, doug clearly doesnt know what he's doing, and if that catering story is true then lol
@donjuanmckenzie4897
@donjuanmckenzie4897 10 месяцев назад
They are all pretentious and mad Doug isn't a die hard libtard who makes videos about misogynistic tropes and combatting fascism
@retron99
@retron99 9 месяцев назад
@@chrisossu2070Correction: The producers were not bound by contracts. They were independent contributors who simply posted videos to the site. Which nullifies a lot of their complaints when you think about it.
@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
"Some people think that Lindsay is a genius for looking like she doesn't want to be there. And some people think she's a genius for breathing." Underrated joke.
@TauGeneration
@TauGeneration Год назад
the funny part is that it can be interpreted for linsey fans OR haters.
@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
@@TauGeneration I can only see Lindsay fans liking it if they unironically think that she's the best part of the movie for acting like she doesn't want to be there. Personally, I just have a bit of a dislike for that "too cool for school," attitude. If everyone else is having a good time and you're like "this is stupid," and showcasing your boredom, that isn't you being the one smart person in the room, it's you refusing to engage with the situation and attributing your apathy to the situation instead of your lack of willingness to participate. It's like someone grumbling and giving everyone sour looks because they're hungry after they refused to eat at the pizza buffet with everyone else. Yeah, the pizza was old and dry, but everyone else was like "okay, let's make the best of this," and you were like "nah, old pizza is beneath my lofty standards." It might be true, but, go somewhere else if you're gonna be like that.
@wormswithteeth
@wormswithteeth Год назад
my cousin has a lot of talents
@noahkarpinski1824
@noahkarpinski1824 Год назад
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 to be fair, it was the persona that was written for her, before she developed her own style and voice It's a lot easier to look back on her and read motives into her performance
@Duskool
@Duskool Год назад
@@noahkarpinski1824 Yeah, i think Phelous has that same type of persona to him in this? tho it fits him more to an extent
@milliardlewmaun4034
@milliardlewmaun4034 Год назад
What a miracle: a video essay about the nostalgia critic that i actually enjoyed watching
@Homunculus97
@Homunculus97 Год назад
"Doug Walker is like your father" what kind of Oneyplays skit is that from? Jokes aside, bloody great video and nice to see someone approach the "reviewer era" with a similar kind of weird internet nostalgia as I had for it, I remember watching the shit out of Nostalgia Critic, Suede, Linkara, Angry Joe, Spoony etc back in the late 2000s and early 2010s, even though I feel like I have "outgrown" them I still appreciate some stuff that they did.
@thatguynamedskyy6756
@thatguynamedskyy6756 Год назад
The best Animal Farm adaption
@BMask
@BMask Год назад
Another favourite of Doug's. Not even joking.
@Titan990
@Titan990 Год назад
This is the best video about Doug Walker. Because like Doug, it captures somethings that a lot of creators seemingly fail to capture: fun and emotion. You mentioned this in another comment but his Ruby Bridges review is probably his best Disneycember video because he nailed what the film is about and like him, I was skeptical if he could cover it but he managed to pull it off. That’s the emotional part. The fun part is the stupid movies that you know aren’t good but goddamn they’re having fun. Kind of like Kickassia. I think a lot of content creators and even other forms of media nowadays miss the fun and emotion of what they’re making and get lost in the logical and sanitization of said media.
@connorbeith3232
@connorbeith3232 Год назад
Well I can't say someone like Scott The Woz misses fun and emotion in his videos. I'd say he's the last bastion of the angry reviewer genre.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 12 дней назад
You haven't watched many reviewers then
@Titan990
@Titan990 12 дней назад
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 very few are like Doug. Most either shit talk a movie they don’t understand for almost every movie they see or praise it even if the movie is mid. Or be like r/boxoffice and obsess over money. The ones I do watch apart from Doug have that same energy. Even if I disagree sometimes.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 12 дней назад
@@Titan990 Yeah but a lot still have jokes and running gags and a sense of silliness to it all
@trevor2102
@trevor2102 Год назад
I was going to type out a really long thing about Doug but ill shorten it because I'm not very expressive in writing: Doug is human, the only reason we can be upset at him or laugh at his failures is because he shows us everything.That's part of his dream as an entertainer, to be seen. The fact he's been on RU-vid for over a decade in one way or another is a testament to this man' s work ethic and determination.Is he always fruitful?; no, and thats ok. I hope all of you never give up on your dreams even though your bad at it.Maybe that's God's way of keeping you moving through life; having something you always wanted to do.
@JarJarBinks4ever
@JarJarBinks4ever Год назад
Kickassia is one of the films of all time.
@ElvenRaptor
@ElvenRaptor Год назад
Of all the movies made, this is certainly one of them.
@ALIEN-DUDE
@ALIEN-DUDE Год назад
HAHA YOU DID THE MORBIOUS MEME THATS FUCKIN HILARIOUS 😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂⚰️🪦
@wreday720
@wreday720 Год назад
come on man... really...
@JarJarBinks4ever
@JarJarBinks4ever Год назад
@@wreday720 Kickassia is the film ever made
@OpEditorial
@OpEditorial Год назад
Kickassia was, for a feature length internet video, surprisingly well made. Everything has a kind of low-res, early 2000's naive enthusiasm about it; complete with a decent story, costumes and effects (by home movie standards) and because the people involved looked like they were having fun, it exists as a well edited testament to wasted potential.
@kodybuffettwilson
@kodybuffettwilson Год назад
I reckon your serious look at Kickassia is more than a little optimistic, but your final summation on The Nostalgia Critic, Doug Walker, and people's connection to them is spot-on. I cringed at Doug's creative efforts many a time and used to view his current output out of a sense of obligation, but now I can see that I keep watching him because he is genuine. He may not always hit the mark with his critiques, but he definitely cares about film.
@thatguywade5384
@thatguywade5384 9 месяцев назад
For me, I can never hate Doug. There will always be that appreciation for Doug/NC for helping me realize my enjoyment of film analysis, criticism, creativity, and even comedy, as I loved his reviews as a kid, and still do enjoy many of his old reviews still from before he took his break to work on Demo Reel. His first review I ever saw was Sidekicks, which my step-brother showed me and my brother on his laptop back in middle school. I immediately loved him for how wildly energetic he was, and followed him religiously up until 2015-2016 when I was entering my sophomore year of high school. I still checked in on him every once in a while, but when the Channel Awesome controversies hit, it confirmed to me that I had outgrown the man and it was time to move on from him for good. But, every now and again, I still check up on him and see some current review he's made. His passion for films is just so enthusiastic even to this day, and yeah, he definitely doesn't land with all his takes, or has some that don't seem fleshed out enough to fully understand, or even has some which can be considered very surface level. But he does seem to love the discussion of film, and find the parts of it that are good, even back during his early days when he focused solely on bad movies. He has such an important to me and my childhood, I can never say I was embarrassed to watch him. For all his faults, I loved NC, and I still enjoy listening to Doug every now and again as or outside the NC.
@SwizzlyBubbles
@SwizzlyBubbles Год назад
It's weird, you and I basically had the exact same journey going back through Doug's content after The Wall review, and came out with nearly the same conclusions. Though I'd say the reason why, even after all the drama, all the bullshit, all the dumb obviously self-righteous bullshit, one of the other big reasons I keep coming back is because Doug's one of the few reviewers I know of who can very accurately describe the feel and emotional weight of a movie in a way that feels very real and straight-to-the-point; he doesn't feel he's above the material anymore, he responds to the material. At least in his recent reviews. One of Doug's biggest problems in the past was listening TOO much to his audience and catering to an older Internet crowd that loved late-2000's lolrandom Internet culture. You could argue he helped foster that alongside AVGN, but: even back then, his best reviews were ones that he was driven and passionate about (for better and for worse), they just weren't his most popular. People came for the Nostalgia Critic, the persona, people stayed for Doug, the person. The Nostalgia Critic these days doesn't feel like an entity separate from Doug anymore, they feel like an slight exaggeration of his own insightful thoughts on a movie, and that difference goes a long way. People love to say "Doug's struggling, he's not good, he's a wasted talent" and that couldn't be further from the truth. I mean for God's sakes, this man has had how many industry people on his show over the years? Mara Wilson, he's got a framed tweet from Roger Ebert liking his stuff, Tom Ruegger and much of the old Animaniacs writing team, Michael Salvatori, Ralph Bakshi loved his LotR review, one of the animators for Secret of Nimh (Philo Barnhart) came on just to give trivia about the movie, he even got DON BLUTH HIMSELF to use his show to try and kickstart a Dragon's Lair movie. Hell, part of why Seth Kearsley even talks about Eight Crazy Nights (and probably even released the cancelled Kingdom Hearts pilot) was because Doug was one of the first people to give his movie a fair shake and not insult the animation talent behind it, so much so that he wrote a giant e-mail TO Doug explaining what he would later explain to everyone else online, years before he ever did it publicly. Some of these you could chalk up as Internet cameos, but if this man is able to get so many people to come on his show, sometimes just to simply talk about their movies, he must be doing something right.
@BMask
@BMask Год назад
Really do agree with this.
@MissiGNO000
@MissiGNO000 Год назад
its because he was the only movie internet celebrity at the time, I dont think any of his cameos watched his episodes regularly or wouldnt cringe at the wall review
@BMask
@BMask Год назад
@@MissiGNO000 Don Bluth, for better or worse, claimed he liked dougs videos so much he wanted to emulate his style of cutting. Many of these guys watched his videos, and I remember many of them even at the time saying so. Whether they watched it all, or would hate his stuff now, really isn’t the point to take away here.
@connorbeith3232
@connorbeith3232 Год назад
He also had the voices of Pinky and The Brain also do a bit in character, so that was fun.
@TheDanishGuyReviews
@TheDanishGuyReviews Год назад
I just found a DVD of Kickassia last month in a second-hand shop for $1.5. It's probably the coolest and rarest piece in my entire DVD collection.
@coltoneisenhauer6276
@coltoneisenhauer6276 22 дня назад
Honestly this reminds me that I donated a box of movies to a thrift store and kick-assia was one of them. Now I'm pissed at myself.
@TheDanishGuyReviews
@TheDanishGuyReviews 21 день назад
@@coltoneisenhauer6276 I have to ask where your head was at with that move? Any movie from the internet is going to be a limited edition. And now someone else gets that limited edition for like a buck.
@coltoneisenhauer6276
@coltoneisenhauer6276 21 день назад
@@TheDanishGuyReviews yeah I'm kicking myself for it now. But I was going through a mental health crisis, and decided to downsize alot of my possessions for some reason. And unfortunately kick-assia and I believe suburban knights as well became unfortunate casualties during that dark time in my life.
@Cheesehead302
@Cheesehead302 Год назад
39:00 I actually completely agree with this. Doug's opinion series where he just talks about what he thinks of any movie/ show are 100 times better than the Nostalgia Critic sketches. Some times he makes some good points in the NC videos, I do exactly what you said and skip the skits lol. Idk, his videos have continued to be a guilty pleasure of mine and probably will for years.
@thecinematicmind
@thecinematicmind Год назад
I can see this with the “Is That Real” videos
@Coreagrus
@Coreagrus Год назад
I was baffled by this upload, but after watching, I think I gained more respect for you, B- Mask. That was really level headed and measured, and it helps that I share a similar experience growing up watching Channel Awesome. You made me feel quite... nostalgic. Hardy-har-har! As cheesy as it is, I really do like your message at the end. You left me hopeful and sentimental and I hope you'll inspire people who watch this to be more thoughtful, kind and move on to do greater things. Even Doug. Maybe especially Doug.
@Kth77
@Kth77 Год назад
As much as I had enjoyed Dan Olsen's video on Doug's Wall video, it has been triggering some sort of imposter syndrome-ey existential crisis in myself. This video helped calm that new intrusive voice.
@the-np4mr
@the-np4mr Год назад
Dan Olsen is a talentless nonce who was practically uninvolved with anything to do with channel awesome
@grantmcgee7439
@grantmcgee7439 Год назад
Only B-Mask could make me ravenously devour an hour long video essay about a guy whose work I never liked in the first place and not only like it but walk away with a newfound appreciation for his influence, warts and all. AND YOU INCLUDED DOUBLE TOASTED!!! You're the best, B. This vid is the best kind of Christmas gift: the kind I didn't know I wanted. You're knockin' 'em dead. Merry Christmas to you!
@Hentarded
@Hentarded Год назад
I too enjoyed Dan Olson's video dismantling NC review of The Wall, but simultaneously found his review of Doug as a content creator too personal and harsh. Likely more personal based on his history, but still hit me at the time of watching it. I found your video suitably well balanced here, having watched NC just over 10 years ago I had recently been ashamed of having ever enjoyed it. Your description about not being too embarrassed of the things we briefly enjoyed growing up is very relatable.
@TheTHEPATMAN
@TheTHEPATMAN 9 месяцев назад
This is without a doubt the best piece of nostalgia critic discourse on RU-vid. I sometimes wonder why some people spend the time to make a giant video essay just to say they hate Doug. Why waste your life on that when you could just simply not watch Nostalgia Critic.
@Green_Speed
@Green_Speed Год назад
Next B-Mask video idea: 2-hour deep dive on the history and impact of the RU-vidr "evil alter egos" trope
@psychomammoth9640
@psychomammoth9640 Год назад
Chris O’Neil would be proud of this, that’s for sure.
@Inroads-r8c
@Inroads-r8c Год назад
Great video. Honestly, I spent the last few years espousing the virtues of the modern "Breadtube" video essayists over this old Channel Awesome stuff. Much of that came from a rejection of CA's actions that were indicted in the Google Doc back in 2018. After all, the video essayists, with their deeper, more cerebral way of looking at art, are surely healthier creators to get into than Doug ever was. Two things changed this for me. The first was the mobbing of Lindsay Ellis a year or so ago, which revealed that all of this intellectualism didn't prevent the kinds of asinine bad-faith-verging-on-mob-violence that's so common on the Internet (and seeing other Breadtube creators either not speak up until it was too late, or worse, actively pile on Lindsay, very nearly tarred and feathered the entire scene for me). The second was when I started work on my own film, my first feature since film school. I thought all the theory and philosophy would help me with my work, but that was not at all the case. It turns out, surrounding myself with deeply cynical examples of how "X piece of media you like is actually morally deficient" just made me scared to write at all, out of fear that whatever I wrote, through some trick of my subconscious, would be deleterious to the morality of the world, or something. I actually had to completely wean myself off of anything movie-related on RU-vid in order to get any work done. That obviously speaks more to my frame of mind at the time than to the validity of video essayists, but I can't deny that that's how it happened. For all of Doug's faults, he genuinely seems to bring an unironic, uncynical love to whatever it is he's talking about, at least most of the time. And if I'm being honest, that sometimes seems to be in really short supply among the biggest RU-vid movie critics of our current moment.
@smugalice6206
@smugalice6206 Год назад
What an excellent comment!
@BMask
@BMask Год назад
Was about to say the same
@kingbash6466
@kingbash6466 Год назад
I'm glad that a video like this exists. After years of constant, "Doug Walker bad, x other yt reviewer good" being repeated at nauseum, it's nice to see someone who is critical of his work without acting like he murdered their family.
@darkchocolate1083
@darkchocolate1083 Год назад
I agree. Doug’s content has its flaws, but people went WAY overboard with it. The Wall review was pretty bad, but did it really warrant like a hundred videos about it? I admit I was swept a little in it myself after all of the controversies, but looking back most of his content still holds up imo.
@IPITYTHEFOOLZ
@IPITYTHEFOOLZ 9 месяцев назад
@@darkchocolate1083 just people chasing after whats popular. Trying to get clicks
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 8 месяцев назад
It's like people forgot there's a reason he was popular in the first place
@picklestherandomtoon3151
@picklestherandomtoon3151 Год назад
Quite possibly the best Doug Walker analysis I've ever seen (and I've seen quite a few)
@PityPitMusic
@PityPitMusic Год назад
After watching this and Joon The King's Nostalgia Critic video I have a really hard time returning to Lady Emily's Nostalgia Critic videos or anything similar, I have simply grown too fond of Doug Walker. Channel Awesome was managed horribly and Doug is partially at fault for that but I can't help but respect the man for continuing to do what he loves and have passion for his craft all these years later, to me he really does seem like a naive yet nice and kind person. I didnt grow up with Nostalgia Critic but always known about him, watching OneyPlays since 2016 very much developed a curiosity towards the Critic. I've watched Kickassia or by myself atleast 3-4 times by now and it leaves me feeling giddy and joyful each time, there's an unironic joy and magic to this film and I'm really glad you made this video to point that out. Thanks for making such a great video! (PS I'd like to recommend ProJared's old 2007 Screwattack series "Nametags" if you enjoy this sort of early youtube content, I watch it multiple times a year.)
@BenzaieLive2
@BenzaieLive2 Год назад
Incredible
@BenzaieLive2
@BenzaieLive2 Год назад
But like, where did we meet man ?
@BMask
@BMask Год назад
@@BenzaieLive2 AGGHHHH Benzaie! Amazing to hear you liked the video man... I don't remember the name of the con, but I remember it was in a hall in the UK where everything was in the same room, really noisy. Ashens and Guru Larry were there, spotted you watching another panel and we had a very quick chat about one of your videos. Been great to see your stuff see success since then! All well deserved. (Also Smith and Wesson is peak cinema)
@BillyJamesVA
@BillyJamesVA Год назад
I feel like the Internet hating on Nostalgia Critic these days is like the Internet hating on Twilight in the early 2010s: people will look back at it a decade later and realize "wow. we kind of went overboard with this. I'm almost frighted by how everyone seemed to have the same opinion on this."
@caiosoares2834
@caiosoares2834 Год назад
It also reminds me of when everyone was hating on BehindTheMeme for destroying the alleged integrity of meme culture.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 12 дней назад
Ehhhhh, while most of the reasons for hating Twilight seemed to be rooted in the love triangle or sparkly vampires, we can't forget about all the pedophilia, abusive relationships, or disrespectful portrayal of Native American culture.
@burtbiggum499
@burtbiggum499 Год назад
Hey almightyloli is making a series on this right now too. The collective unconscious strikes
@kasig2013
@kasig2013 Год назад
Man, this video really got me to rethink my feelings on Doug Walker and Channel Awesome as a whole. Back in the day, I thought they were awesome. After a while, I grew out of him and resented him and what creators like him used to do. Now, and especially after hearing your own thoughts and observations, I've come to see him for both the good and bad he had. To completely write The Nostalgia Critic/Doug Walker and creators like him as providing nothing of value and being narrow-minded fools is itself narrow-minded. I remember watching Doug and James for that matter and learning about new films I've never heard of and learning how to form and express my own opinions. Sure, I don't share all of Doug's opinions. Hell, a lot of them I strongly disagree with. But his passion for cinema and media, in general, has stuck with me. This video reminded me of just how funny him and these movies could be. I was also reminded of the flaws too, especially the actual poor treatment of the producers on the site, which shouldn't be forgotten. But, I feel now that I can finally grasp a more mature understanding of The Nostalgia Critic and Channel Awesome. Was it cringey? A fair amount of the time, sure. Was it time wasted? Absolutely not. I owe a lot to these old reviews. It helped me learn a lot about my tastes, tastes that are, of course, still growing and changing. That ending analogy put it brilliantly. Thank you for making this video, B-Mask. I had no idea I'd love it as much as I did.
@squidtugboat3689
@squidtugboat3689 Год назад
I got into nostalgia critic in the late naughts and early 10s when I first really got into RU-vid, there was a high schooler I did a acting program with who I looked up to and he told me about nostalgia critic. I watched a few videos and I was hooked. So when I think of Doug my thoughts always drift towards the post kickassia era of skits and those occasional serious reviews. Doug really got me to think about movies in a way I hadn’t before and although I drifted towards more intellectual creators over the years I always had a soft spot for Doug. I’m so glad someone else feels as I do.
@astcastle
@astcastle Год назад
A well-delivered take as always. Doug Walkers catalog and the whole angry reviewer era he spawned are an indelible part of the history of online entertainment, and while the truths that have come to light regarding Channel Awesome and my own changing tastes have put me among those that don’t have much use for or interest in his work, it’s valuable to look back on it (and at what it is presently) and see what’s left. If, for you or anyone else, that’s something valuable, then I guess that’s something. Merry merry, everyone.
@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
Looking back, the 'truths' were mostly a nothingburger, aside from the JewWario stuff. One that stood out was the thing that they were citing as one of the worst things that Doug did, which was to keep in an edgy r*pe joke that one of the girls objected to. I mean, it really did seem like they had legitimate grievances, but a lot of that stuff seemed kinda petty in hindsight, like high school drama. It seems disrespectful to paint "Spoony got into an argument with Lupa and Doug didn't defend Lupa," on the same level as the JewWario stuff.
@taylorwright7428
@taylorwright7428 Год назад
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 The whole document is a lot of little & big mistakes and criticism that had built up over the years, so I think it seemed a lot worse than it might've actually been when it first came out. The other workers/personalities have all the right to give Doug shit and no longer work with him, but I feel like it ended up framing him as a wicked, selfish, evil guy when he's not. Flawed, definitely. But no outright villan. And unfortunately the personality given to his critic persona didn't help at all, with him supposed to be an asshole for comedy. (Plus a bad response, from what I've heard. It said in this video he just brushed it all off.) I'd say he's learned from the complaints, though. At least, the ones that had to do with the movies he's made and the production on his show. Like, he's learned to use less actors for better management/communication, which seemed to be a pretty common complaint, and growing and getting better is always a good thing.
@TheGamerGeek128
@TheGamerGeek128 Год назад
Finally, some good fucking food. Jokes aside, I appreciate how whenever you cover a subject, you always seem to make an effort to add something to the conversation that hasn't already been said by everyone else while still being sincere in the point you're trying to make
@tailsknuxfan101
@tailsknuxfan101 Год назад
The last part of the video is the most truthful and accurate analysis of Nostalgia Critic I've seen.
@spagredo
@spagredo Год назад
Dude you’re only person who I would watch a 50 minute video about Kickassia
@smugalice6206
@smugalice6206 Год назад
The Cursed Content Club episode is pretty good.
@callumparker7737
@callumparker7737 Год назад
Thealmightyloli does a really good retrospective of the Channel Awesome films and the drama behind them. A really good watch.
@Lonestarz95
@Lonestarz95 Год назад
Although I haven't watched Doug in years, it's nice to see him level out. Him and James will always have a big impact on me in my humble beginnings on the internet.
@ImmaLittlePip
@ImmaLittlePip Год назад
I gotta say as a young teen growing up on the wild west of the internet and seeing pioneers of internet culture It truly was a magical time Rip the wild west 2000s - 2016 you were beautiful, weird and edgy time but mostly beautiful and edgy
@theothertonydutch
@theothertonydutch 2 месяца назад
2016? I feel that it ended somewhere in 2011.
@StrudelerOfTheTSociety
@StrudelerOfTheTSociety 4 месяца назад
Kickassia is so genius that they made a civ mod of it.
@SuperChrisMarlowe
@SuperChrisMarlowe Год назад
I will always be grateful to Nostalgia Critic and That Guy with the Glasses. I managed to learn English thanks to hundreds of videos from this site. Different authors were like different difficulty levels. Doug was easy to understand, he spoke loudly and clearly. Lindsey spoke quietly and calmly, and I had to listen to some fragments over and over again to get everything. At first I was kind of apprehensive of Spoony, he seemed very, very weird. But in the end he became my favorite author, his bizarre works I enjoyed the most. What a master of delivery! This carefree, irresponsible and overly ambitious undertaking ended very badly. And it probably couldn't have ended any other way. But its authors knew how to entertain and even how to educate. I only hope that after all these years at least some of their conflicts have been resolved, and some resentments have subsided.
@ahok1937
@ahok1937 Год назад
Exactly the same; i learned a LOT about english language and american culture thanks to him.
@bensneb360
@bensneb360 Год назад
This is a thorough, well thought out, and objective look at Doug Walker. I highly respect you looking at all aspects of the situation, but also making a video from your heart that you know might be controversial, but you feel the need to be honest about. You’re a very intelligent and cool dude, thank you and keep up the great work.
@trosinesss
@trosinesss Год назад
Doug sure did have a lot of influence in a lot of us, we may like to think we “out growth him” but speak for myself I’ll check out his stuff every now and then and sometimes I can see where’s he’s coming from.
@emcvideoproductions500
@emcvideoproductions500 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for making this video. As a former long time fan of Doug’s during high school, his reviewing style and strangely earnest passion of filmmaking was actually one of the earliest kickstarters of me growing a genuine love for the craft of it all. While I can’t say that I like to look back on his stuff with complete enthusiasm, his presence in my life is what helped me get to where I am today. No matter what I or others think of the man now, there’s no denying that he made an impact in more ways than one.
@GeekCritique
@GeekCritique Год назад
Bravo, man. With genuine sincerity, you put words to a feeling I've had, but didn't know how to articulate. It's nice to know I wasn't the only one. Thank you!
@YoungDogNoTricks
@YoungDogNoTricks Год назад
Doug is such a common point in film appreciation for people of a certain age. I feel like he was so inevitable that he could be used like carbon dating for film dorks. It's nice to see someone tap into that instead of just dog piling on him (not that he doesn't deserve a decent amount of that) I think the critic, if not doug himself, should be looked at from that perspective more often. Does it say more about the people watching the critic or the videos themselves that people of specific types found his work as enduring as they did? P.S. Thanks to this vid I'm reminded that I forced my mum (someone who at the time was wholly unfamiliar with tgwtg, internet humour or even film really) to watch kickassia. As far as I remember, to get her to understand the stuff I enjoyed watching???
@BMask
@BMask Год назад
That carbon dating point is spot on, totally with you there. I think I also showed my mum the bum review of Citizen Kane which it turns out she remembered and still enjoyed all these years later.
@supernoob17
@supernoob17 Год назад
you're paving the way for the doug walker redemption arc, doing gods work here
@tinfoilslacks3750
@tinfoilslacks3750 Год назад
At the end of the day, the word that best encompasses Doug Walker is "Earnest". And I think how much you like his content is going to come down to how willing you are to meet his content on its terms and identify with it. Like the willing suspension of disbelief, but rather than believing the impossible you're connecting with the laughable.
@caiosoares2834
@caiosoares2834 Год назад
There's a quote from a great video that goes well with that last part. "There's just love, and when you learn to love the things that suck you can't really lose." - Steak Bentley, Venture Bros and Failure.
@JuanPablo-su6vw
@JuanPablo-su6vw Год назад
I don’t get why people say Doug is like a happy clown on stage but a sad man behind the scene. Is not that I care that much but is kinda frustrating when everyone said that when in reality the guy looks fine. Is like everyone is seeing things that I don’t.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 12 дней назад
If you watch The Review Must Go On, it definitely seems like Doug feels trapped as the Critic
@ryancarless7921
@ryancarless7921 Год назад
This really made me think of the NC as a creator we can all relate to. Even after every video, he’s still got some good points and jokes we think back to.
@smugalice6206
@smugalice6206 Год назад
In a way, he’s also a creator we aspire to be: he doesn’t stop creating, and he doesn’t stay down when he’s hit.
@ElvenRaptor
@ElvenRaptor Год назад
@@smugalice6206 Well, you just convinced me to give him another whirl.
@SebastianLundh1988
@SebastianLundh1988 Год назад
So, I watched this when it was released back in 2010, and I'm not gonna lie, I liked it. I've not seen it in like, 10+ years, and it probably hasn't aged well, but back then, when I was a 21 year old young man, it was great. It is weird how my memories of watching it for the first time are as old now as things from the late 90's were back then.
@korwashere
@korwashere Год назад
As someone who similarly spent many of their earlier years watching the critic, and whose content was some of my first exposure to critique in general, this video was immensely cathartic. Top notch work as always
@frankierandomnumbers7525
@frankierandomnumbers7525 Год назад
The fact you nailed Doug's cadence PERFECTLY when you were recapping Kickassia for like the first minute
@ColoniaContraAtaca
@ColoniaContraAtaca Год назад
Omg, that "father" point of view was perfect!!!
@tgeFallman
@tgeFallman Год назад
VIRSU!!!!!
@heartnet40
@heartnet40 Год назад
Dear God, it feels we're coming full circle with this and I already love it. Second-hand embarrassment and my love for B-Mask...take me awaaaaayyyyy
@Derl30
@Derl30 Год назад
It's nice to hear someone say something kind about Doug. I still watch him from time to time. I love his Stephen King reviews, for example.
@ArcosOfBlack
@ArcosOfBlack Год назад
I don't normally like videos that "Review" other creators, often times I find it to be disrespectful, but this...this was a wonderful video. You came at this from a place of understanding and even appreciation for him and his content, rather than simply bashing him for his older content. You even shined a light on his latest content, and how he's clearly evolved, even if only a little. What I've always appreciated about Doug's reviews was how he clearly knows what he's talking about, even if he doesn't always hit his mark. He's clearly a fan of movies and film making. He usually tries to be fair and shine light on both the good and the bad of a film. And you know, thruough all the years of hearing so many bad scandals with RU-vidrs I grew up watching, I take a weird sort of comfort in knowing that Doug's worst crime was, seemingly, just being incompetent. He's an idiot, but he's an idiot with passion and appreciation for what he has to talk about. I'll always respect him for that.
@ChrisDerBlonde
@ChrisDerBlonde Год назад
Doug staying relevant through all these years shows that he is absolute force of nature. I highly respect that guy and I'm glad he is still dropping great content
@Shartmaster32
@Shartmaster32 Год назад
I love the thumbnail art so much Doug is drawn looking real crazy
@ab.6223
@ab.6223 Год назад
I appreciate seeing a little positivity for this era of dumb fun for once. Even if it was painfully unprepared and stressful to film apparently.
@Neyebureturns
@Neyebureturns Год назад
I really needed this video. I discovered Doug videos when I finished high school and became a great fan. I learned English watching his videos. But then “Change the channel” happened at the same time I felt his videos weren’t as good as the first ones, so I stoped watching. But this Halloween I remember his Nostalgiaween videos, how watching them was a bit of a tradition, and that make me curious to see his most recent work.
@LeafRazorStorm
@LeafRazorStorm Год назад
"Ah, isn't that cute? You're nostalgic for the Nostalgia Critic." - Doug Walker, 2013
@plaip6404
@plaip6404 Год назад
What an incredibly empathetic video. Thank you so much for making this. I don’t know what else to say without sounding like I’m exaggerating, but I just seriously loved this. Beautiful, beautiful video. I hope I can be as understanding and empathetic as you present yourself in this video someday.
@vinegar3617
@vinegar3617 Год назад
A major Doug-positive video on RU-vid has been a long time coming. Whenever I look at reviews which are critical of Doug's work, even ones which aren't explicitly tied to the ChangeTheChannel debacle, there are the same few points that come up. Doug is an egomaniac, a control freak, he only understands art at a surface level, he wants to be perceived as a great artist but can't make "art", he's a walking tragedy trapped in a cage he built for himself and desperately wants to move on but can't. When the controversy happened I took it all at face value and left it at that, but now looking at his most recent output, those criticisms can't help but feel needlessly aggressive. I look at Doug's output nowadays and I wondered to myself if I had entered into a completely alternate dimension. He made valid points, he admired certain aspects of a film not on a base level but through a deeper understanding and he criticized other aspects of the film and his elaborations on WHY lined up well and were understandable. He seemed to enjoy his job, he seemed to enjoy being the Nostalgia Critic, and he was branching out from the main show and creating spinoffs where he was able to express his opinion outside the veneer of a persona which people also enjoyed. And outside of that, he seems like a nice, open, and friendly person, and if the Double Toasted interview (and many, many testimonies from fans who have met him) seem to refute that fact. He wasn't screaming so often! Sure there was the occasional skit here or there, but while I don't find them particularly funny, I DO think they're charming. Hell, like you said, there are even older reviews that make poignant points. But most importantly, it was his critique that made me reconsider these movies. Like you said, we don't know Doug, and the people who wrote the ChangeTheChannel document did. But unless Doug had this secret alternate persona he would switch between when meeting fans and when interacting with CA members, it's hard for me to really believe that Doug is that shallow and egomaniacal. If anything, modern criticisms of Doug's work seem less like they want to deconstruct his creative process in and of itself and more like these people are reconciling with themselves how they could ever be fans of someone as "low-brow" as Doug Walker. It's like your friend said, as a teenager you hate your father, because you feel you've outgrown him and are broadening your horizons. Just about NONE of these videos seem to include the Double Toasted interview which gave us the most direct view into Doug's mindset that you were ever going to get outside of a con meetup, and the fact that videos coming out even after it never seem to include it as a reference point is mind-boggling. If anything, it seems to suggest that these people think they know Doug Walker well enough that they don't NEED to include the interview and, unless you were part of CA and knew him personally, that comes off to me as more arrogant than anything they could criticize him for. I'm not gonna completely romanticize him and say Doug Walker is a completely perfect content creator or that the people who wrote the ChangeTheChannel document are completely wrong. He HAS problems with how he reviews movies and creates content, and his inaction led to Channel Awesome members being mistreated or worse, but Doug is not a egomaniac nor is he a hack fraud. And while the people who criticize him are capable of making their own thought-provoking content, I feel like they are still in a "teenage" phase of understanding him and would rather stick with the version of Doug they know.
@danielcorey377
@danielcorey377 Год назад
My personal (uninformed as heck take) is that like at least 60-80% of all the problems was a combo of big personalities clashing and poor management. If you've been around any kind of job long enough, you quickly realize that you can put up with a lot of stuff so long as you have good management backing you. The fallout from the Change the Channel document felt like a lot of those problems could have been solved if someone who knew how to deal with managing people could have stepped in. Reigned in the out of line, help explain and guide the rest.
@Pensive_Scarlet
@Pensive_Scarlet Год назад
I just want to point out, I actually think the idea of lampooning the idea of armor with muscle patterns by using a sharpie on the dude's bare torso was fairly clever. The muscle pattern on the armor is meant to look intimidating; the sharpie is meant to look like armor that is meant to look intimidating.
@ashitanomighty
@ashitanomighty Год назад
This is the best essay on Doug Walker I've ever seen. The father paralelism is just perfect
@jacobpatton7587
@jacobpatton7587 Год назад
I know a lot of people have soured on him and his work, but I honestly like Doug, and the Nostalgia Critic.I still like Brad Jones and the Cinema Snob. As TheAlmightyLoli put it in a video a few months ago, the worst you could really say was that Doug was a bad boss. But honestly, the majority of the Channel Awesome contributors who left the site have acted honestly worse than Doug has looked. For his part, I think Doug has, at least in part, recognized that his career isn't what he thought it would be, but what he has is good. There's a lesson here that people need to make sure they know their partners when they start ventures like this, and not hang all their hopes on long shots.
@jedisquidward
@jedisquidward Год назад
I really appreciate the last section of this video. As someone whose main consumption of Doug's videos was his Disneycember videos, I feel a lot of his own critics are a bit too eager to characterize him as an "incurious" person.
@christopherwall2121
@christopherwall2121 7 месяцев назад
29:20 I don't care what anyone says, that reveal of who the Nostalgia Critic is in the alternate timeline is one of the funniest damn things Doug Walker ever wrote.
@JDStevens92
@JDStevens92 Год назад
This is how B-Mask gets cancelled
@narcoticundertow
@narcoticundertow Год назад
love this positive re-interpretation of doug's work. his favourite films list is my favourite video he's done - it introduced me to A LOT as a youngster, including the works of hunter s. thompson (who i was mad into, like any teenager would be) off the back of the fear and loathing reccomendation. the man has some choice taste. hope this video does well!!
@DaywalkerNL94
@DaywalkerNL94 Год назад
Unpopular and "evil" take: What happened with CA was unprofessional and stupid, but giving the time frame and the people involved... I don't think any would've done better. Doug just happened to be the boss. You have to remember, all the stuff about catering, precision, equipment, being careful about interactions with fans etc. It's obvious now to current youtube. But back in the day you didn't need a good mic, best software or even lighting to be good. I've watched others after the Change the Channel and they don't look much more professional compared to Doug. That is to say what they know they know because of Doug's mistakes and current Doug looks more professional then current them, so I don't know if things would've been better for them under Nostalgic Spoony or anyone else. That's why I think nothing really changed after the leak, besides JewWorio, nothing really changed and everyone remained the same as after the leak. The site was losing it's luster anyway and they weren't as influential as they were before the leak so nothing really happened. NC didn't fell down because of some one thing that was bad. It was a downward slope because the internet changed and because he himself is aging and it continues to be exactly that.
@joeeljalapeno1816
@joeeljalapeno1816 Год назад
so now we are in the "well it was actualy good" arc of the anime of Douglas D Nost'algia Critique
@waywardlaser
@waywardlaser Год назад
Never really clicked with Dan Olson either, honestly lol. Doug is someone who I've continued to enjoy watching throughout the years, even with shit like The Wall review behind him. Nowadays I think he's found that good balance between humourous riffing and personal analysis and whatever ego he may have once had is seemingly gone. That Top 20 Favourite Films video you brought up even introduced me to many movies I still adore to this day including Lost in Translation, which has since become my #1 all-time favourite. So I have Doug to thank for that.
@stevena488
@stevena488 Год назад
This thing reminds me of Gorilla Interrupted, the first RLM movie before they were even RLM. I'm not a huge fan of the Walkers or Channel Awesome but I loved this video. It's the efforts of a bunch of fans who want to make a film and, ultimately, suck at it but in a way that's kind of Ed Wood levels where I think you can absolutely be entertained by it and learn from it. It feels like RU-vids High School/early college years which got people looking at other movies. Had that air of naughtiness like back when you were a kid, watchin something like Billy Connolly or Monty Python back in the day where you'd laugh because they swore and talked about sex and other crap. The main take away was It felt doable and you felt like "If they could do it, why can't I?" I find it so weird that there are kids who are alive who didn't live in a world without RU-vid. But they weren't part of the RU-vid that I remember when it was MAINLY AMVs (you got your choice of Linkin Park "Breaking the Habit" or Drowning Pool "Bodies"), people putting up music illegally, you had the odd movie critic (some dude called the Angry Nintendo Nerd?), a BOATLOAD of pirated Adult Swim stuff like Aqua Teen Hunger force, and this weird intimacy to it all. Like it felt like a bustling marketplace where you could find almost anything! Was still effectively corporate (Don't think we can fool ourselves with that) but it felt like it was something you alone knew about. I think the most powerful lesson of Channel awesome and RU-vid is "Prepare for Fame/infamy if you ever show your face because oh man, there's a price to pay for the loss of anonymity. Also, please don't nearly kill someone during the making of your film. Especially not someone with undiagnosed BiPolar disorder and a heart condition." Thanks B, for giving a different perspective on this!
@arjay9745
@arjay9745 Год назад
Being an (ahem) older person, I saw the NC through the eyes of my teen-aged sons, who adored him. Of course, much of what they loved on the (to me) magical new Internet seemed a tad immature to someone my age, but it was fun watching how he inspired them, and I found him honestly funny and insightful enough to justify his career choice. Does a critic have to always be right or should they simply get you thinking about a film? I think the latter, and the content was for a young audience anyway, so it didn't need to be profound. It just had to be a good introduction to the subject. Anyway, when RU-vid recently recommended a video to me heavily criticising his work, I was baffled, so I looked up Channel Awesome today and watched a few reviews (more adult versions of the old NC, totally watchable), then hit the old ThatGuyWithTheGlasses content, and found them pretty much as I remembered. I was left feeling that what most people have probably come to dislike about Doug is that he reminds them of their own aging and must therefore be unceremoniously consigned to the back of the desk drawer like a photo that shows you in a gawky stage of development.
@OriginalKasym
@OriginalKasym Год назад
Whenever you say "Doug Walker" 3 times at midnight, he appears. You can run, but it's already too late
@RiverbrookTsodmi
@RiverbrookTsodmi Год назад
Doug Walker is like the Nikola Tesla on internet movie reviewers. His ambition trumps over petty squables when he does something. He thinks about the bigger picture when making something. Even if the Kickassia is a 'bad' movie it is a time capsule that nobody would have made. As you said, it captures the 2000s internet comedy precisesly and present itself now as nostalgic movie of the time.
@sammartina8574
@sammartina8574 Год назад
I like that you appreciate Doug has gotten better. He's calmer, less cynical and if he's gonna cram a reference into a review he has a bit more of a point to make than he previously would have. This was the first video of yours I saw. I imagine I will watch more. Also I kind of liked To Boldly Flee (don't hurt me I thought it was funny) and I didn't have too much issue with Doug bringing Demo Reel type skits into the show. I especially liked that Dragonball one you show here.
@myless7387
@myless7387 Год назад
Awesome video. I like how you mention his videos displayed some movies from a very slanted or specific perspective, because I think Doug's work has also gone under the same scrutiny in some videos. And in a similar way, this displays his work from a lot more of an appreciative if not straight positive light. That's really refreshing because I think Doug and friends are really creatives in the end, despite the cringe and failures. It's fun to see somebody praise the hiddem jems for once really
@JacobHillSBD
@JacobHillSBD Год назад
I don’t think this movie is very funny but Doug going “Oh hey you gave into the madness, that’s awesome” is good
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