Documentary about the Hillsborough Stadium disaster. 96 Liverpool fans were killed in a crush at the 1989 FA Cup Semi Final. This film was first shown the weekend ahead of the publication of the Hillsborough Independent Panel report.
As a survivor of pen 3 on that day and an eye witness who was ignored, the notion a Prime Minister could actually stand up in Parliament and say "Because of the weight of new evidence" is at the very least patronising to those who lost their lives, their grieving families and to those of us who where ignored, smeared, blamed and demonized who have suffered in silence for decades and at the worst an insult! They thought they could hide the evidence for 30 years and by the time that evidence become public we would have forgotten and given up! But the took on the wrong city, they took on the wrong families and they took on the wrong people! The truth and evidence has always been there, they just did not want to see it. In 2020 this whole process has laid bare the fact the laws of this land do not apply to everyone, they only apply to us the little people. But it has also shown the power and strength of our wonderful community, city and football club. WE WILL NEVER WALK ALONE!
I'm sorry to hear of your suffering, and of your fellow survivors. What a horrible experience to suffer! 😢 I was born a couple of weeks before, and the disaster happened the day I came home from the hospital - weird connection but yeah. It was in 2008 when I was 19 that I first learned about the disaster and I was horrified. If it's any comfort, anyone with a brain recognises that accusations of violence were made up by the police, including *that* S*n article. My first reaction was 'of course police incompetent was responsible, it's obvious'. I also hope that you're in a better place now in your life. Having been through trauma myself of a different kind, I understand how much it stays with you. I also hope that the ruling in 2016 that the 97 victims were unlawfully killed brings you and your fellow survivors and the bereaved relatives at least some comfort. YNWA 🙏
Must have been horrific. To be that scared for your life, to see people scared and dying. Nobody could ever imagine. Nobody should have been killed or even injured. R.I.P to those who died and thoughts their families and all those that witnessed this scene first hand.
I'm a Man Utd fan through and through but my heart goes out to all the lives lost that day. I remember it well. I was 15 and it came on the radio, then I watched it tragically unfold before my eyes on the BBC. I cried today for all those lives lost. The lies told against Liverpool fans were a disgrace. The media, we know who they are, and the police for omitting what really happened in the statements. Rest in peace. You'll never walk alone. X
As a Liverpool supporter who was there that day and survived and as a true fan i thank you for your support i know we all have loyalties to our team but I’ve grown up and married and have two kids who also go to the match I’ve always told them not to be angry at other fans but be respectful to them just like you are Anyway thanks you are a true loyal supporter of your team 👍👍👍
Germany here, Borussia Dortmund till the day I die, but in this matter EVERY fan no matter what club should stand shoulder to shoulder with the 97, the survivors and their families. I was 15 that day and saw the pictures later that evening. I still can't forget them to this day. I can't even imagine what it would have been like to be in that crush and I also can't imagine how it had to be surviving that with the blame of murder on you. To this day it is a shame that Duckenfield was not charged guilty. You'll never walk alone!!!@@marcturner3647
Thank you for your support and i really hope that you get your law degree, i mean this sincerely . I’m not a person who needs anything but i am a person who wants truth and honesty, with respect people who went to this match didn’t go not to come home they went to watch their team, but when you have the government and police trying to protect themselves well I’ll shout it from everywhere, and I’m so glad that we got justice for our 97 they will Never Walk Alone Again i hope you get your law degree and go into help people who deserve a chance against the government and police. Plus you should come up to Liverpool and see how they will make you feel happy and give you a hug and thank you for coming Take care Marc👍👍👍
So, I am a Forest fan, and I know of people who attended this match as Forest fans. They remember looking across the way, really confused to what was going on, and the horror only slowly dawning on them. They are adamant that the police were at fault, as too many people were let in with no way out. One I know tried to give a witness statement, but was turned away. I'm sorry, the 96 and their families. Whatever was said about you in papers afterwards has finally been shown to be untrue and we all know the police were at fault. Rest easy and YNWA from our City Ground. Edit: please may I also add Mrs Aspinall is a courageous and intelligent lady and I hope she continues to have the strength to keep asking.
@@StillStanding-k2h , firstly, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge of these games.. This is the best comment that I've read on football tragedies. My very best wishes!
I teared up at the end when she was talking about not being there for him when he most needed her. You can tell how much it hurts her still, and that is a horrible feeling.
I was very proud and honoured to work at V2 records and we through our artists and contacts put on the Hillsborough Justice concert at Anfield and put out a recording of the concert after..all the money went to the families and supported them in the launch of their legal bid for justice...I am sorry it took 23 years for the families to be fully exonerated. Justice for the 96
@@ant7699 I'm tearing up too. Can't imagine being there and living with what they seen. We can switch off after watching they probably think about it daily
@@JJ-iq8miWhen you're late and are missing the start of a match, you don't think you'll cause much harm by pushing the crowd in front of you. Unfortunately this time the police supervision to ease or redirect the pressure caused by the pushing wasn't there. The later fans didn't know them pushing forward in order to see the match would be fatal to those further forward who couldn't escape because of the anti hooligan fences. Bad behaviour at previous matches all over the country and Europe from different teams supporters set the dangerous traps at Hillsborough and other grounds. The doors to the central pen tunnel should have been shut even before the kick off, but because the police commander lacked experience, in trying to save lives in the crush outside of the ground lives were lost in the central pen. I was listening to the match on the radio and assumed because of the disturbance in the crowd that it was bad fan behaviour again like at the Heysel stadium, but like many others we were wrong. What caused the disaster was understandable over anxiety not to miss seeing the match which led to pushing forward into an overcrowded section. (early coming fans near the front were probably under the most pressure generally speaking.) Some police and authorities trying to escape their part in the disaster wasn't acceptable at all, but understandable for some who made mistakes and felt very bad about it. Many folk, supporters and those on stadium duty ended up being heroes and life savers.
Exactly. And those at fault in the upper ranks are protected, while those on the ground deal with the trauma, and bear the brunt of the blame and anger from the general public
Panorama did a documentary about Hillsborough after the Hillsborough Independent Panel announced their findings of cover up by the establishment. One section of the documentary in particular stands out: "Hillsborough was a disaster like no other. It was captured by 8 BBC cameras, the police had CCTV and a mobile camera unit. The BBC footage was later released to the police and the victims' lawyers and then locked away, considered 'too distressing for broadcast'. 24 years [at the time of original broadcast] on, we've been able to analyse it. It reveals how things went wrong from the start at Hillsborough and continued going wrong for longer than has ever been admitted,"
I’ve been in a crowd collapse situation like that in New Orleans during Mardi Gras on bourbon street and it was absolutely terrifying!!! I can’t even imagine what those people went through. My situation was bad but nothing like that!!
The jury came back today in the two year long inquest into the death of the 96, they were all unlawfully killed. Criminal trials must now follow, the south Yorkshire Police were fully at falt and they lied.
To me even the opening of that gate didn’t have to result in this. Open the gate but close that tunnel and then filter people around into the nearly empty side pens. How could they know that those pens were already rammed when the tunnel was still left open ? How on earth were those people supposed to know what was happening in those pens until they were down that tunnel and once in there there was nowhere for them to go. I cannot cannot understand how anyone could sit in that control box and not see the situation in those pens.
It's because duckenfield wasn't in that box the whole time and he couldn't give a f**k about the fans, He wasn't even looking at the situation when he gave the order It was his job to maintain safety and he was grossly negligent, The box overlooked the lower stand and he has monitors looking at other parts, He couldn't care less and had no idea about the lay out of the ground yet he has been cleared of all charges? Utter boll*ks!
Police control is right there overlookong the pens, as for not closing the gates to the centre pens they would have if the officer who was in charge for years hadnt of been moved and replaced with an idiot who knew nothing of policing football matchs.
I'm so glad they included the officer in this. Just when I thought I couldn't be more angry at the senior officers for the tragedy they caused . . . 22:12 this tragedy was directly caused by the mismanagement, the lack of leadership, the incompetence with Duckenfield replacing Mole. Decades of injustice put into motion with Duckenfield's lie - as people were still dying! - and maintained by senior officers who enabled the cover-up, even to the point of altering statements of junior officers. And because of all of that, good officers, traumatized by the event, betrayed by their upper management, demonized by the public, suffered even more. It's not hard to recognize the signs of trauma in the officer. Not being able to remember facial details isn't unusual for first responders, it's a way for the brain to protect itself from the emotional trauma. And it's highly unlikely that any of them were given any sort of counseling or other psychological assistance - note that he said he had gotten help _in recent years._ Because at the time, you were expected to just suck it up. The loss of life, the devastation of the loved ones, the trauma to the survivors, the officers, the first responders, and all of it exacerbated for decades because those in charge refuse to take responsibility for their mistakes.
The warnings that a disaster was on the cards were there. I remember the F.A cup semi final in 1981 between Wolves and Tottenham. On that day there was another crush at the Leppings Lane end, only this time quick thinking by the Police prevented any serious injuries or deaths because they quickly opened the gates and allowed fans to sit and watch the rest of the match from behind the goal. This resulted in Hillsborough losing it's safety certificate. That's when Sheffield Wednesday redesigned the terrace by building the pens. They were not there in 1981. The idea was to prevent sideways movement in the crowd. Liverpool F.C wanted their fans to have the larger Spion Kop stand for the 1989 match, because fans had got hurt in the previous match the year before, but were turned down. None of this of course detracts from the fact that the Police tried to put the entire blame on the Liverpool fans...
Here in NZ, it was always reported that the cops were at fault, so it's odd to me that some people still remember that wrong to this day in the UK and think Liverpool fans were at fault.
Because the uk police were in cahoots witht he press and government ...there was no social media we would never have known how other countries were reporting it
That police cheif should have been prosecuted years ago. I remember watching this as a kid. My heart goes out to everyone. Whoever thought it was safe to put fences around the ground was an utter mad man as the fans could have maybe spilled onto the pitch. Combine that with the police opening the doors causing a mass surge it was a recipe for disaster. RIP.
A shorter and weaker fence would've given way more easily and allowed people to escape. But the fence they used mostly stood up to the combined weight of several hundred people pushing against it (many adult men included). Who thought it was necessary to use that kind of fencing? Some of those on the pitch ended up partially pulling down small sections of the fence to let people escape, but it was too little too late.
I still feel disgusted that the newspapers were allowed to print the pictures of the people being crushed. I felt it cruel and unnecessary. RIP to the 96.. I pray the families will get closure..
i wasn't born when this happened but i have always been aware of this day and the utter negligence from the police was utterly shameful, they kept letting people in, they told lies that the liverpool fans were causing damage, fans kept trying to tell them what had happened but they just didnt listen, RIP to every single person who died that day and im so glad that you finally have the justice you deserve
There's no "version" of the truth. The truth is the truth. And no matter what you do, or how hard you fight against it, no matter how long you try to hide it, it will always come to light.
There should have been a filtering system!! Plus! The decision to open Gate C should not have been taken without closing the tunnel gates!! Stevie Winder could have seen that pens 3,4 were already full! The match also should have been delayed!! How dare the police try to blame the fans!! They had no where to go.. but down the obvious route to the tunnel! The Police Failed them! Then didn’t get their emergency plan into action either.. they stood and watched while people were being crushed! And failed to get the ambulances onto the ground! It was just a disgrace! Not blaming all of the South Yorkshire Police...Because it was the senior officers fault! As I’m sure some police tried their best to help victims.. but for a lot it was too late! Duckenfeild froze! He was incompetent and out of his depth! Read the Taylor Report! He had it right from the start! And persecution’s should have followed! The first inquest was a white wash!! Those poor families had to wait 27 years to get Justice!! Far too Ling! Lies and cover ups finally brought down! R.I.P the 96!
All ticket was allocated but over 2 thousand non ticket holders turned up not forgetting heysal victims ill never forget the pic of hick sisters who paid for their tickets squashed against perimeter fence
@@angeldimariagreaves4582 read the original post to which you have replied. An official inquiry found the issue was police mismanagement before during and after the crush incident. This was then compounded by a campaign to exonerate the police and blame the fans orchestrated by the police themselves, the media especially the S*n and at least one Tory politician
Hazel I know what happened that day why can't we just let them rest they was suffaced by their own fans fek the Taylor report if duckenfield hadn't opened the gates there would of been more fatalities that day I agree there was mistakes made they should of closed the leppings Lane entry off b4 opening gates then they could of trampled over anyone running to the other 3 half empty pens I watched Anne itv I cried 1st episode but she neglected her family to seek justice remember it was 1989 no mobile phones they had rely on radios the non ticket holders caused it and the medical services let them Down 41 could of been saved and for the record they was try get in the closed leppings Lane that's why that duckenfield opened them my friend was there and ask Brian Clough but he retracted his statement for a column in 4 for 2 magazine they was doing aeroplane waves in pubs b4 KO not knowing within the hour they would have their own tragedy and the perimeter fences didn't help I saw it unfold on TV fans was going to Bruce gobblier telling him fans was dying and he was telling them get back thought it was a pitch invasion I could go on and on but those 96 didn't need die they should of delayed KO simple
Something should have been done with the police chief. It was his call and he screwed up. Wen citizens screw up we take responsibility. But the police dont. That right there shows complete injustice.
@@ianharris879 they didn't try to storm the gates, the footage shows them being orderly. You clearly didn't watch this documentary. John Motson was told to read out on TV while people were dying that fans broke down a gate. All lies
I just recently found out about this disaster. I was in a stampede in the 80s at a rock concert i got pinned up against a barricade I could not breathe deep for 2 hours. Ill never 4get the look on my friends face. Pure terror. She was ok too but we never bought floor seats again.
I went through the exact same thing at a rock concert too. I was pressed up against a big security officer guarding the stage. It was a smaller venue and my group had front row tickets so we were all being crushed. Thankfully they got the situation under control and managed to move everyone back so there were no deaths, but it still terrifies me to this day to be put in that kind of situation in the first place. I go to an event to enjoy it, not to be crushed.
Yeah, I remember that as the main story in the Netherlands. The officer opening the gate to avoid peril, but accidentally causing more. Apart from the horror scenes (still vivid in my brain), I mostly remember people helping others. I hate the blame game. A tragic set of circumstances was exactly what it was.
Don't know but I hope things have changed and people are more sensitive when explaining why a loved one could not hug or touch their loved ones who have died.
I listen to 90.10 FM. I like the Beatles, etc, but hate most British reporters on NPR. This channel is better than any other so far. Very very good... let me finish the show.
Not just Duckinfield at fault, he was the eventual scapegoat. At fault was the establishment's attitude to football supporters and working-class people in general.
I avoid crowds to begin with but when a crowd is that dense I would never walk into it. But that’s me. Maybe some people like crowds? Don’t know. They immediately scream turn away to me. I only go to events that are small in wide open spaces. Too many crowd deaths throughout history.
The prison like fences around the playing pitch caused the deaths, if they weren’t there, the tragedy would never have occurred. They even call the areas ‘pens’, that should have be warning enough. Those fences need to go, and the biggest issues that needs addressing is why they are there in the first place.
The pitch fencing was designed precisely to stop fans from getting onto the pitch. But given an emergency situations, such fencing will endanger those who must leave the area quickly.
Key points: 0:32 - "...a judicial inquiry made it crystal clear that the 96 deaths were a direct result of terrible mistakes made by senior police officers who were in charge that day." 13:06 - "But even as the disaster was unfolding, an alternative version of the truth was being spun by senior South Yorkshire police officers." 17:20 - "A lie gets around the world before the truth has put it's trousers on. So basically, you know, if you want to insure a version that is remembered you get in first." 20:21 - "Lord Justice Taylor's report into the tragedy was unequivocal. It was mismanagement by senior officers of the South Yorkshire Police that was the prime cause of the disaster, yet no officer has ever been convicted of any crime as a result of what happened." That last one pretty much sums it up. The guilty immediately began a cover up and it appears that justice may never happen because of who the culprits were.
Thank you. Opposite statements: The truth will set you free. /A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can get its pants on. Knowledge is power. / Ignorance is bliss. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. /The definition of insanity is to try, try again and expect different results. Nothing ventured, nothing gained./ Better safe than sorry.
My Great Uncle went to a New Years Day game in Glasgow. It turned into a disaster and again I believe police did nothing. He had dresses nicely for the game and returned home with his clothes in taters. My mom had lined up to get him the ticket the mounted police just kept pushing people against a wall even though they weren't doing anything but peacefully waiting to get to the booth to buy a ticket. I think my mum told her uncle she would not go and buy him a ticket ever again.
I was just three years old when this happened. I have vague recollections of the news speaking of something awful from when I was that age. It wasn't until I was much older that I learned more about this. It has made me very sensitive and aware of my surroundings, and of the safety of others around me. It was a terrible thing to happen, it should never have happened, and it should never have been covered up. The world needed to know the actual truth long before it was finally acknowledged correctly by those in power - how can you prevent something like this happening again if you are not truthful, and complete, in an explanation of the event? Every time I hear of a crush, I get so angry that steps that could have been taken to mitigate it were clearly not taken. We, as a species, can, and must, do better at accountability, at investigation, at learning the lessons, and making changes based on the lessons we have learned. No person in a crush will ever walk alone. Because to me, every one of them matters. They always will.
I remember every part of this tragedy, playing out on TV. The Police were at fault, opening the gate, but Liverpool fans surged through at such a rate, which was the catalyst for such heartache. I am a Bradford City Fan and I will stand with Liverpool and those affected. Rest in beautiful peace The 96. We know what it all feels like. ❤️❤️❤️
@@emmacassidy8482 no there weren’t. Don’t believe the lies about ticketless fans. The problem was the police treating it as crowd control ie thinking they were dealing with a mob rather than crowd management which is about keeping a large group of people safe. Even when the crush started they were herding people back into the pens as they thought the fans fleeing for their lives were merely doing a pitch invasion.
No. I'm ashamed to say that I used to think the same until the footage came out as part of this enquiry, but there was no surge, just people walking through a very wide gate, and zero control. No pushing at the back, that's not how crowd crushes happen, it's more like a wave swelling with an incoming tide, receding and then coming back slightly further. Listen to the chap's recount of him walking down the tunnel, it's pretty clear that they had little trouble getting through to the terraces without putting any pressure.
Just watched the drama series ANNE So sad to watch RIP to all the people who died (15-04-1989) and also (R.I.P. to the mother of Kevin Daniel Williams….Anne Williams) x
Duckenfield wasn't up to the job. The decisions he made on the day cost the lives of so many innocent people. Grieving families have been to he'll and back to fight for justice. Duckenfield should not of been prosecuted for his incompetance on the day, but along with many others perverting the course of justice for the years and decades after. I am sad to say that will never happen. RIP the 97 fans that went to watch a game of football, but never came home.
All my support and sympathy to those who died or suffered. I'm a Scottish Rangers man, I grew up knowing all about what happened at Ibrox in 1971, so I was immediately sympathetic to these people. To be honest, this one was much worse: at Ibrox people simply piled up on each other because of a sudden surge of people coming back up on an old and obsolete staircase; here instead a policeman commander first took such a stupid and dangerous decision and then told lies to the press, after having sealed the tragic death of so many people. Honestly again, the very decision to put Liverpool fans in such a narrow end of that stadium was the first cause for this mayhem. I've no peculiar link to Liverpool FC, I don't like its links with Celtic, the often common 'victimising Irishness' they share, I'm a proud working-class (former) Labour voting Scot and I know how much we Scots suffered the same amount of rubbish the Irish who came here suffered, yet we've always been treated as the guilty ones just because we were Scottish and didn't want the Irish to come in and threaten our jobs... it was A WAR BETWEEN THE POOR! Victimising attitudes are stranger to my way of living and to Scotland in general, we're still treated like 'fascists' or Tories because we needed to defend our jobs, yet we've come apart from that shit and all the fuss about bigotry in Scotland is well over, both Celtic and Rangers fans generally vote left-wing nowadays, the only reminders of bigotry are shown in the Auld Firm matches, but that's just banter, ongoing banter. This is what too many Celtic fans don't get and they still seek revenge, so they spread fake news regarding us lot and too many people all around the UK and Europe now treat us like 'fascist bastards', I cannot stand that. Never mind, despite all this, I felt immediately close to the people of Liverpool and the LFC fans who died that day, not yet knowing what had caused all that chaos. We were told LFC fans had pushed barriers down to enter the ground thus overcrowding it, we had no knowledge of what Duckinfield had done, yet I felt immediately close to the LFC lot and felt SO ANGRY. It was EVIDENT people had been put in the WRONG PLACE and were dying as a result of that decision. Anyway, Glasgow and Liverpool share many things, we're both shipyard working-class left-wing people, that's where we come from, no matter you're English and we're Scots. Justice for the 96.
I understand things like this happen but when you are in charge, You should take responsibility say I screwed up you only dig yourself into a deeper hole when you try to cover it up and say it was the fans fault when it was Duckingfield and the rest of the security, That's what has pissed the families off even more. If I was a family member of a victim I would be saying HOW DARE YOU SAY THIS WAS THEIR FAULT YOU ARE IN CHARGE AND IT WAS YOUR FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY AND YOU FAILED,
I remember the tragedy very well, too well, it has never left me although I watched it happening only from the television. I am from Finland and still it felt like losing friends in that grandstand. Love to those who perished, there families, loved ones and friends. 💖🇫🇮
Yes most of them did. Can’t say they all did but the “mob of ticketless fans” was a rumour spread by South Yorkshire police with help from some politicians and at least one tabloid newspaper. The most recent inquiry has cleared the fans of responsibility for the event and laid it firmly at the door of the police for extremely poor crowd management
The tunnel to the central pens should have been shut at half 2 because that's when they were full. It was the right decision to open gate c but the tunnel should have been shut before that happened. Total police cock up by an inexperienced commander. Why did they replace superintendent mole 3 weeks beforehand who had done an adequate job the 2 previous semi finals
Bats RULE that’s right 2 coppers played a prank on a probationer which mole would have had no knowledge of. What I didn’t get was the fact that they moved him 3 weeks before the semi final. If only they had let him take charge of the game and then move, well 96 people would still be alive and all the pain and anger wouldn’t be there.
I hade the honnor to met Jerry Mc Iver in 2011 back to Liverpool, he survived the tragedie and is an actif member of Hillsborough Justice Campain. Jerry descrived is fight to survive in an dramatic poeme.🙏
born on a summer's day "58". Family moved from Kent to Suffolk when i was four. Deeply upset my Dad said Ipswich town are the best. That was the moment i became a football fan. Back in the day my team did pretty good. What happened at Hillsborough that afternoon is , ..........., Sorry, can't find the words. What i want to say is when Liverpool came to Town all i wanted was meet and talk about football with Liverpool fans . A memory that will stay with me always will be be , before the game meetings a couple of Liverpool fans in a pub in Ipswich. " Anfield is a shrine to football. ". It is . i spent the next week talking Scouse. Dalglish scored the winning goal that day i think. ( i did pretty well too for a while mimicking the accent). (with the ladies). The point I'm trying to make goes to the lies and deceit of those in power which forced Mothers and Fathers, Sisters and brothers to not only find the truth, deal with their loss but have the determination to find 'justice '. For me , that's LFC greatest win. with respect , Johnnie Llewellyn Suffolk
Almost certainly. Heysal was a sign of the hooligan culture of the time, combined with an old stadium that was not fit to hold a major final. Whereas Hillsborough was human error, not being aware of the dangers, and the individuals and some of those high up in the police not wanting to own up to it, who thought it easy to spread at least some of the blame onto the fans. Both are tragedies of course, regardless of who was to blame, id like to think of such things as heartbreaking progress, when unfortunate events lead to learning and more safety for all.
Let’s hope duckenfield and his cronies are finally held accountable for the 27 years of crap that has constantly come from their side. Glad that the families and the fans were proved right after all that time even though proper football fans knew that they were telling the truth no matter what team they support.
I was watching this game live from Australia with my dad.My Father got up covered the TV with his whole boys and turned to TV off.I asked why you turning off the TV dad we a finally watching a actual live game which never happened in Australia unless it was a FA,cup final he said" son something horrible is happening not a riot but people look like are getting crushed I don't want to you to see this". My dad unplugged the TV and took it with him so I don't get the urge to watch what was happening.. Shocking absolutely shocking..
I remember one time as a kid I asked my dad if we could go see the Olympics in person. He told me he would rather suck a cyanide lollipop. Being 8 years old, I didn’t understand why he didn’t want to go to a live sports event. Seeing this, and other horrible examples of stadium overcrowding, I can understand why he doesn’t want to go.
Odd your father would say something like that to you, but did he specify danger at attending sporting events as the reason for not attending them? We have to remember that Hillsborough was the culmination of several things: pens in terraces (pens, for fuck sakes), overcrowding at football (although a lot of people didn't seem to mind it because it was normal), outdated stadia that were falling apart from ages of neglect and cheap owners, gray areas in rules and function, and a growing separation between the supporter and authority because of hooliganism at the time. It's horrible to say this, but events like Hillsborough, the Bradford City fire, and even Heysel should be clear indicators of how the above is addressed. The Taylor Report drove straight into the majority of this. Keep in mind: Hillsborough was NOT the result of crowd trouble or hooliganism. It was a collection of poor decision-making by the FA, by the poorly-managed ground that was in dire need of upgrading, the large amount of traffic on the day that had Liverpool supporters arriving late by coach, having Liverpool supporters (who had a massive following) sat in the Leppings Lane end instead of the Kop, and to top it all off, the South Yorkshire Police sacking the previous Chief Superintendent Brian Mole -- who had supervised previous FA Cup Semi-Finals at the ground and knew how to pretty much everything -- because of a ridiculous incident weeks prior, and replacing him with David Duckenfield -- a man who not only knew NOTHING about football, but was not prepared to handle such an event; it showed. These days, there's significant crowd control, better ticketing methods, and hopefully better security. I will say that I've seen some events under this criteria that still have issues because security and management can't tell their left from their right, but ultimately attending sporting events now is safe and well-managed.
@@incarnateTheGreat Used to love nothing more than a full Kippax or 70 k people at Monsters of rock , these days id probably stay away once it starts its hard to stop , especially with the old style terracing in UK Footy grounds . Goodison park or woodison as we called it was a miracle no one died there . Wooden sleepers from the old GNW railway were used as terracing . Lethal in icy or cold weather .
Yeh one of MP Andy Burnham's constituents Stephen Whittle sold his ticket to one of the victims of Hillsborough and took his own life and is now classed as the 97th victim of the Hillsborough disaster, so so sad 😢 ❤️ J4T96 ❤️ RIP 97 ❤️ YNWA ❤️ xxxx
I went to a rugby league match a couple of weeks after.i couldn't believe how small the leppings lane end was.the police had to be at fault. If I hadn't seen it I wouldn't believe it
Very sad. I remember being at the away end clock end Arsenal with the Man U fans league cup semi so crushed feet left the ground and I wasn’t small. I just knew if this sort of thing carried on there would be another disaster the game I refer was in 1990 so lessons had not been learned at all. RIp all those poor souls that died
Why does this remind me of the Bradford city stadium fire of 1985? Really? Something this devastating happened again as a soccer/football stadium? Coincidence? I don't think so..
No. An inexperienced policeman was in overall charge of crowd management but he never even familiarised himself with the layout of the grounds. The stadium was also very unsafe having had at least two near misses in the years before this happened. Duckenfield the man in charge thought the issue was crowd control ie managing an unruly mob rather crowd management which is about making sure a large crowd is kept safe. He froze when the incident started and didn’t declare an emergency which meant ambulances waited outside inside of coming into stadium. Over 40 of the dead could have been saved with immediate medical intervention
Then to add insult to injury South Yorkshire Police engaged in a campaign of disinformation to lay the blame on the fans with the help of some of the media, especially the UK’s leading tabloid newspaper the Sun which people in Liverpool now boycott and call the Scum. The paper spread stories about fans breaking down the gate which the police had actually opened and then urinating on police. If any fans did urinate, this would be because that can happen when you are being crushed to death ( think about toothpaste in a squeezed toothpaste tube). Finally some right wing politicians also helped spread lies because Liverpool is traditionally a working class city that votes Labour
@@molybdomancer195 thank you for your explanations. After typing my question, I fell into a rabbit hole on RU-vid regarding this story. I learned a lot. I might even buy Straton's book the Truth on my kindle. What a disaster this was. Growing up I remember hearing stories about fans being killed at a Who concert and also at the 1988 monsters of Rock at Donnington in 1988 during Guns n Roses set. I never heard of something this massive. I have been to concerts where you are being pushed and squashed and it is scary.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, even this documentary states that the gate was opened to prevent injuries from the crush outside, yes they should have closed off those pens but at that moment I think the priority was the crush outside.....it was horrendous!
The issue was the policeman in charge never even went to look at the layout of the grounds so he had no idea what the effect of opening that gate would be. The police could have asked the match to be delayed by 20 minutes to allow people to enter which they didn’t do.
@@molybdomancer195, As I said hindsight is a wonderful thing, tragic and possibly avoidable but the police officer didn't get up that morning thinking I'll murder some scousers today , it was a tragic mistake he made trying to avoid a crush outside the ground... Even if they'd delayed the kick off it doesn't mean that those fans crushing each other outside wouldn't have still rushed in....
Horrendous vision, turned off the tv, in shock for the whole week when that happened! The death toll always noted, but the PTS and life,long injuries a toll on those too!
I HATE your lies David Duckenfield. Can't say I hate you....That's wrong and I won't stoop. But your pathetic lies and trying to make villains of heroes....My blood BOILS.And I'm a South African. So I can only imagine what those poor families went thru.....
Dianne Keightley everyone in Liverpool hates duckenfield after the disaster in 1989 and all the trouble he has caused and he SHOULD have been sent to prison (doesn't matter how old he is)
Yorkshire Police have never really had much joy with tactical policing, records management or cross referencing data...seems more like malice than carelessness.
@@valerierodger7700 Duly appreciated and concurred - however, my statement refers more specifically to the 'missing' records, while obliquely alluding to other cases handled by that district, namely: Sutcliffe and others.
Why would they? For following the only possible route to the pens and having no option to turn back once there because of the 1000s of fans behind them bottlenecking in the tunnel?
Its so sad, football troublemakers caused the fences to be put up , but what about safety risks by locking up people. No risk assessment, poor choice of venue, poor police and fans pushing to get in, poor crowd control. Lots of factors that led to this disaster. What a waste of life RIP.
Ask yourself where did the extra amount of people come from trying to watch the match and the transport who took them to the stadium,they never came from Liverpool but why.
Duckenfield was made a scapegoat for this. His decision to open the gates, was to avoid a crush outside of the ground. It was the fences in Leppings Lane that ultimately decided the fate of the 96 that were killed. Banning standing at football grounds was a knee jerk reaction to this tragedy and not the answer. Just removing fences from Football stadiums is sufficient enough. If there were no fences in the Lepping lane stand, this tragedy wouldn't have happened at all.
He was totally incompetent though. He never even bothered looking at the internal layout of Hillsborough. If you are going to be in charge of an event you surely must look at the location. He then helped spread lies so sorry no sympathy.
Humans make mistakes and ownership and accountability deserves respect but those that lied and covered up here are below contempt . They could have been forgiven if genuinely remorseful for their mistakes .
Duckenfield was a man doing his job. He was under a lot of pressure. Surely he made mistakes but the Liverpool supporters, some were drunk and some probably did pick a pocket of the dead. It's sad but true.
Only partial justice has been done. And that was after the Hillsborough independent panel report in 2012 which exonerated the Liverpool supporters of any blame concerning the day of the disaster & that The South Yorkshire Police were to blame as were Sheffield Wednesday FC who never renued the safety licence after the 81 semi final where Tottenham fans were crushed And injured. And also the verdict that overturned the deaths as accident to unlawful killing as of 2021 to 97 people (Andrew Devine died after being on life support for over 30 years in July 2021) becoming the 97th victim. But still knowbody has ever been charged and help accountable for there actions on the day Super Intendant Duckenfield. Bernard Murray. SWFC club safety officer Mackrell. The list goes on. Oh and the sanitization of Police statements on what they did on the day. Many of the normal PC's were forced to change there statements of what they did that day or it was done without there knowledge and a lot of normal Bobbies did help on that day and suffered PTSD just like the Fans. Right from the start of the story of Liverpool fans breaking down Gate C when it was Duckenfield who ordered it to be opened was the beginning of the lie. And story's of drunken tickitless fans arriving at the ground late. Also the media reaction from the Camera men turning there cameras around from photographing the game to taking pictures of dead & dying people crushed up against the perimeter fences ignoring there cries & screams for help ,watching while people's faces turned white and lips And nostrils turned blue. And also in particularly The Sun Newspapers front page headlines about Liverpool fans pocketing the dead ,and assaulting Police officers and urinating on officers trying to help .An absolutely abhorrent and downright lies to smear the fans reputation and to sway public opinions on what they called " The Truth" What the Liverpool fans ,victims & family's got was only that the deaths were unlawful killings and that they were not to blame. This as well as being the longest running legal case in British history is also the BIGGEST cover up and injustice of the highest order. Superintendent Duckenfield should have gone to prison for this as quite a few other high ranking officers should of too. Duckenfield just escaped in the Private prosecution when the jury was hung (that's a 50/50 guilty/not guilty decision made by the dury) and has again I think in 2019 got off again. Please read the Hillsborough Independent Panel Report. It's available online to the public. I am not a Liverpool fan I support Carlisle United. And was 11 years old when the Hillsborough Disaster happened. It was my first year of watching Football and at the time being so young you know it's bad but are too young to understand it. And have your childhood to live. But ever since the 20th anniversary I've taken a real interest and watched just about ever documentary ,footage available. And also read Phil Scratons book "The Truth" and read the entire Independent Panel Report. As well as the survivors story's on the Hillsborough Disaster website that are more horrific than this video and harrowing to read. Without the shear determination of Professor Phil Scraton & later culture Secretary Andy Burnham (On the 20th anniversary) when Liverpool fans erupted into "Justice For tge 96" I doubt we would have had the Hillsborough Independent Panel..so huge respect to both men who fraught for the victims & family's justice. A lot of comments on this video like others are bigated , ignorant or darn right offensive. So before posting your comments do some proper research. And post something of value out of respect for the 97 dead. The victims family's who have fought tirelessly for justice. And those people who have died because of suicide or early deaths due to stress as there are many attributed to the worst sporting disaster in the UK and the BIGGEST misscarage of justice or injustice not only in England but in the entire world in sporting terms. It has nothing realy to do with Football anymore as times have changed and Hillsborough legacy is that we got safe all seated stadiums for the top two Leagues in English Football. But its about human lives ,normal , honest & hard working people who have loved ,lost ,suffered and fought tirelessly for JUSTICE For the 97.
