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The Palantiri, the Seeing stones of the Noldor. What were they, who made them, and what was their final fate? In this episode we discuss all of these questions and more, such as the history of each Palantir, their properties and powers as we unravel their mysteries!
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@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Latest video's finally up, subtitles should be up soon (hopefully!). Sorry that it's been a while since I've posted, have been really busy in real life! Should be back to my normal schedule now!

@grahamhull1749 6 лет назад

GeekZone how about doing a video on Isildor, Anorien and Elendil?

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

I'll add it to my list, thanks for the suggestion! :)

@Gamer-dq8kr 6 лет назад

Can you do a vid on weather top history plz

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

ye for sure!

@Gamer-dq8kr 6 лет назад

Thx

@MammaApa 5 лет назад

Saruman swiped right for Sauron on Palantinder.

@specialknees6798 5 лет назад

Underrated

@ajcook7777 5 лет назад

What is this guy name? Scarle?

@davelee3725 4 года назад

That's so funny

@sainiharika Год назад

These 2 love birds 😂

@thebibosez7949 6 лет назад

If only they could use the palantir to find the Entwives...

@peterpoulsen1210 6 лет назад

Hahahaha XD

@Cydonius1 6 лет назад

but even if they saw them with the palantir they would not recognize them as entwives

@zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

TheBibo Sez hey now. that's good stuff. they should of let tree beard try it.

@Cory_Dora 6 лет назад

They are in the Old Forest! 🤔😉

@aaronmashburn4180 6 лет назад

Old man willow prob smashed

@christosvoskresye 6 лет назад

Palan = far and wide Tir = to watch Tele = far Vision = to see

@proudtobepinoy9367 6 лет назад

well, both should have an HD Cable then.

@jollygood9183 5 лет назад

Teletubbies?

@david2869 5 лет назад

JRRT appears to making an analogy

@sandakureva 5 лет назад

Quenya is based on English, so it makes sense that it'd function similarly.

@johnruiz4354 5 лет назад

@@jollygood9183 Maybe, maybe

@ryanhoaglund1499 5 лет назад

When I was a kid, I thought Treebeard said "Thats my bark" in the second movie instead of "Bless my bark". I thought for a long time that the palantir was made from his bark and that he was mad that Saurman had one

@Renagade5150 4 года назад

I think this is one of your best videos GeekZone! The information you offer up in it is excellent. I've not read or heard a lot of it. Though I have come to trust your knowledge of Tolkien lore. I dare say it may even surpass my own, which is not easy for me to admit to. So I salute you!

@joshuafredericksen5370 6 лет назад

I like to think that the sons of Feanor did each possess a palantir. It would have made communicating and co-ordinating the seige of Thangorodrim more efficient.

@sicskillz12 6 лет назад

Is there any specific lore about the wizards staff’s if so that would be a kool vid

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

There's very little about them, perhaps I'll include it once I remake my video on the 5 istari!

@calumhood1997 6 лет назад

I think that the wizard's staffs worked like the elven swords of the first age magical in nature but not bound to one person as gandalf changed staffs with radagast the brown and is given a new staff when he returned as gandalf the wight. And when sarumans staff was broken he showed sadness at losing such a powerful instrument. That's just my thought on the matter and sorry if I scrod up any of the grammar writing is not my strong suit. : )

@sicskillz12 6 лет назад

Calum Hood i see but who makes them

@jollygood9183 5 лет назад

The guy in the staff shop. Who else? @@sicskillz12

@callumbignall1877 5 лет назад

@@sicskillz12 Ollivander makes Staffs too ya know ;)

@grandadmiralzaarin4962 5 лет назад

I wish Tolkien had been more detailed on exactly how Sauron 'ensnared' Saruman when he caught him in the Pallantir. Did Sauron forcefully break his will or convert him due to their similar mind set?

@belegcuthalion6397 4 года назад

Might have been a lil of both ,

@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal 4 года назад

Saruman was only in line with him as a trick to get the ring for himself they didn't do a good job explaining this in the movies but he sorta just figured this was the best way to get it

@ppvk2610 4 года назад

Saruman was never 'ensnared', there for he is too powerfull himself, though he was corrupted by Sauron for sure, to the dark side so to speak, he kept his cards open; to join Sauron if he won, or to betray him and beat him if he were to obtain the ring , as he set out his Uruk-Hai to do. Powerfull as he already is he for sure would use the ring, and thus become the most powerfull entity in Middle-Earth. It's what Sauron fears the most; the ring in the hands of either Aragorn, Gandalf, Saruman, Galadriel... All other three passed the test, Saruman, well, for a corrupted soul thats not a test

@oathbreaker2339 6 лет назад

I think you should make a video on Umbar, and what you think happened to the Black Numenoreans that escaped Numenors fall. Your theories always make sense and I've always been a bit fuzzy about Umbar and such. Great video btw! Loved this one.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers mate! I'll add them both to my list! :)

@oathbreaker2339 6 лет назад

GeekZone Cheers indeed!

@pedroportales7580 6 лет назад

Hi @GeekZone , Im a guy that has recently subscribed and I have probably watched all ur videos in a week or so and I wanted to say that all of them are so well explain , though and delivered so they are very engaging i´d say so , keep up the good work ;) And i wanted to tell you if you could do some of these topics because I haven´t really seen them in RU-vid : -Easterlings -Harad as a whole -Noldors and their story -Black numenorians And some "What if" or "Could" -What if Dalin´s expedition to Moria worked out -What if Rohan never came to save Gondor -What if Orcs would have won the Battle for Erebor Thank you for the amazing videos

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Hey Pedro, welcome to the fellowship buddy! I'll add them to my list, I'm sure I'll cover them in the future! =)

@pedroportales7580 6 лет назад

Thanks ;)

@dylantorres2496 6 лет назад

He did a what if, which included Gandalf missing the battle of Helms Deep- causing it to fall and Rohan to not aid Gondor later. Spoiler Alert: it didn’t end up good for Gondor!

@pedroportales7580 6 лет назад

Oh , I will research it , thanks ;)

@oathbreaker2339 6 лет назад

Orcs winning Erebor what be a super cool and interesting theory!

@thetruth4654 6 лет назад

I always found th Palantiri interesting in the LOTR Movies

@notmyrealname8282 3 года назад

I’m watching the “Return of the King” again on TV. The orb part came up, so I typed it in RU-vid to learn more about it. They explain nothing in the movies. They shouldn’t have even included it. Or they should have spent an extra 10 minutes explaining some information about it. Some spoken word exposition from Gandalf would’ve been perfect, but instead when I watched the movie for the first time I was just like “WTF is that orb?”... and I never got an answer. I get that info may be in the books, but they shouldn’t show it in the movies if they weren’t going to explain it.

@Thesamurai1999 3 года назад

@@notmyrealname8282 They do kind of hint at their capabilities in the first movie when Gandalf first confronts Saruman.

@tomdadude444 6 лет назад

Hi geekzone I cannot sleep without your soothing voice to calm my busy mind

@unknownuser4692 6 лет назад

The Pallentiri are a certainly are one of the most interesting and simultaneously terrifying Elven masterpieces. To say the least I found it bizzar that these were not used to locate Sauron sooner.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

I agree, I wish we knew more about their ability to look into the past, I really find that intriguing!

@unknownuser4692 6 лет назад

I could be I'm might be speculating way out the ball park but it may be possible time is potentially tangable much like Enstien theorisied and the incredible ability the palantiri has to see allows it glimpse in to this hypothetical "4th dimension" as Enstien calls it this may explain their ability to communicate as they maybe linked by this.

@zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

Samuel Kerby they were lost and they thought Sauron was dead. things that should not be forgotten were like maybe today we forget the Holocaust at times and how many people and nations hate the Jewish people for being Jewish period. anyway, few knew how to use it and have the will to use it correctly ie Saruman was corrupted by using it by the spirit of sauron lived on by the one ring which was also lost. so evil slowly grew back undetected because it was not finished earlier.

@zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

GeekZone good point sir. I would say many things were lost and forgotten that could have stopped so much bloodshed in the 3rd age and ending it earlier making the 3rd age more like the 1st or 4th age.

@zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

So they could look into the past and find out where the other ones were since they can't be destroyed but the user has to know how. I'm sure the only taught a select few how to anyway.

@sols9449 6 лет назад

Are you from Egypt? I love this channel it’s so interesting. Amazing how deep the Ethos goes.

@AnnaMarianne 5 лет назад

He's from Malta.

@kameronsheppard1436 6 лет назад

If I had a dollar for every time Talion said Palantir in Act 1

@mrsardonicus513 6 лет назад

Awesome video bud. I love listening to your videos while I am playing Lord of the Rings Online ;) Finished them all a few weeks back, so its nice to have a new one to listen to while I run around western Rohan.

@morinor1340 6 лет назад

Nice vid, Geek! What I like about the palantiri is that they are one of the obvious Magic things in middle-earth. I think feanor might have intended to use them as you suggested, but I don't think that they actually uesd them, and they might have left them in valinor as they left in haste. Also it would be odd for feanor to give his sons such different palantiri. It would make more sense of there was one masterstone and seven lesser ones. Maybe it was also more of an experiment, and he intended to create eight perfect palantiri for himself and his sons

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers Morinor! Yes there are a few issues with that, even considering that the major stones were extremely heavy and would be difficult to carry around. However I found it to be an interesting coincidence and thought it's worth pointing out! :)

@GraupeLie 6 лет назад

Fascinating! I've always wanted to know more about the palantiri! Thanks so much for this video!

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

You're welcome mate!

@mmiller73 6 лет назад

Excellent synopsis as always! I especially liked your insight into the number of Palantiri matching the number of Feanor and his sons. It seems to convenient to be a coincidence and it makes perfect sense that if Feanor was indeed the creator of the Palantiri that he would bequeath them to his sons, and that they would use them to communicate across the wide distances of Beleriand over which they were spread. It is interesting to think if the sons of Feanor possessed them whether or not they would have shared them with the Houses of Fingolfin and Finarfin, which would have given the Noldor a major strategic advantage in their siege against Angband. I don't believe they would have shared them even if it was for the greater good, and this could have been a contributing factor in the eventual failure of the siege.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Thanks Martin! When it comes to Tolkien, numbers typically have a certain significance behind them so I thought it's worth pointing out the connection! :)

@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773 6 лет назад

Loved this video Geek!!! Honestly the Palantir are some of my most favorite Artifacts in Middle Earth and I love how they represent and symbolize Communication and why it is very important and thanks so much for explaining their very awesome and deep history within the Legendarium!!!!! Anyway loved this video and can't wait for the next one (and hopefully it won't be another 3 or so weeks till another one lol)!!! :)

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Thanks Luke! I should be back to at least a weekly video, hopefully more! :)

@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773 6 лет назад

GeekZone You're welcome anytime!!! :)

@tinybuddha8379 6 лет назад

I'm gonna say it, because I find it annoying after seeing this practically same comment in every single video of Geek. PLEASE Luke try to come up with something different. Every single character or creature or artifact or anything that is the subject of these videos is "honestly some of your most favorite" something in Middle-earth or Legendarium. Always the same sentence structure with the same message. And you use too much !!!!!! after every sentence. Sorry, I dunno why it gets to me. Some offence.

@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773 6 лет назад

TinyBuddha Yeah I can understand why. It does get a bit repetitive at times. Sorry I have offended you that way, but that sentence is very true though. I am gonna start to say something different from now on. And since you are a Buddha, I find that to be some very wise advice. :) (though it didn't sound like it lol)

@zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

Luke Skywalker the 2nd well said

@lloydwilley1620 6 лет назад

"Fall" is a consistent theme in the Middle Earth conception. Fall happens when one tries to obtain what he is not meant to have. Feanor to Denethor, with many exampies. Saruman, Melkor, not Galadriel or Gandolf. One can see Tolkien's classics knowledge with his warning to us all in regard to hubris from the Greek mythologies.

@sainiharika Год назад

Love love this explanation

@badabing9234 6 лет назад

new subscriber. wanted to say great job on these LOTR lore videos. they are classy and informative. I like the artwork and video/pics that are included in a purposeful way..not like some videos where they are just thrown around for eye candy. your inclusions are topic specific on whatever you are talking about at that moment. so ending here..bravo and props to you. keep it up..

@matheusburin 6 лет назад

Love your videos. There is a quote saying Denethor's or Saruman's palatir bends towards Mordor because they were Isildur's and Anarion's Palantirs, therefore they would always bent toward each other.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers Matheus, that's actually quite interesting, any idea where it's from?

@timothyr.butcher3743 6 лет назад

Your videos are the best thing on the internet, thank you for what you do.

@matthewronsson 6 лет назад

As usual, excellent research, commentary, analysis with reasoned hypothesis and/or speculation appropriately in tune with the world of Tolkien and its spirit.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Thanks Matt, that means a lot to me!

@PodFlassh 6 лет назад

Man ! I just love your videos. Great work again !

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers! :)

@SiegrutteKrieg 6 лет назад

YES! Been waiting for another video this is as brilliant as always mate

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers Zach!

@franceslambert8070 5 лет назад

Another wonderful vid, with plenty of thought provoking facts. Thank you.

@turtle6265 6 лет назад

I like your videos a lot. They are really interesting and well written. And you have a great voice. Thank you.

@markbrown2450 6 лет назад

This was a great video, I really enjoyed it! At 13:00, there's a picture used with a palantir in it that has a very small Space Shuttle in the lower, right-hand corner. Don't know what that means but if you look, you'll see it.

@sergiuconstantinescu8124 6 лет назад

Very nice video, good job man! I even thought one of these days that a video about the Palantiri would be great, and now there it is! :D

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Thanks Sergiu! :)

@dremora10 6 лет назад

Love the videos so much, have been hooked for a couple of days amd watched every video uploaded about the LORE. The quality and the amount of information put into these videos is astonishing and on a completely different level. Subbed with all my accounts on RU-vid. Keep the work up man.

@rickneijndorff9402 6 лет назад

Dude this video was definitely worth the wait, again a great video.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers Rick, glad you enjoyed it mate!

@adriataylor7534 6 лет назад

Very cool! Would love it if a lord of the rings films were made focusing on the First & Second Age in Middle-Earth. though they were talked about in the books, a book can only do so much. a film would do them justice. But it's a shame that would probably never happen.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Perhaps the Amazon series will cover that time period!

@adriataylor7534 6 лет назад

they could.

@kyledayton7829 6 лет назад

Me two

@zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

Adria Taylor a film can only do so much as well. people don't like long lotr videos after the hobbit trashing. not us though. I agree. they should. I heard amazon prime might be doing a tv series. quality and doing it right is my only issue.

@zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

books do far more than movies. movies give you their view of the image. books let you create those images but yes we all enjoy movies too. I read the hobbit after I saw the first lotr fellowship movie as a kid. that started my lore journey. I doubt a movie can do tolkiens work justice much more or even as close to as the lore series already extended and even then their were many issues for fans.

@khiolis 6 лет назад

11:35 The Mirari was a palantiri ?! MTG and LOTR best mashup ever!

@magatrone100 4 года назад

Imagine all feanors song carrying the 7 stones and then Feanor just carrying the missive one in his hucksack like it’s a 1kg pebble

@dylantorres2496 6 лет назад

Your videos are always great! Please do more than one every 3 weeks!

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers stern, hopefully I'll be back to at least one video a week!

@Q_l1 6 лет назад

Can you make a video about the barrow wights? You have mentioned them before, I would love to know everything there is about them! Your videos are awesome by the way!

@TheDrumminjay 3 года назад

Very thoroughly done, well done!

@MrBriguy99 6 лет назад

This the the best channel I’ve found

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Thanks Brian!!

@drews5113 6 лет назад

I would love to know more about the effect and purpose of runes in Middle Earth. I also would love a video on the history and events of the East! Everything east of Mordor and the Iron Hills, from Rhûn and onward, I would love to know.

@ppvk2610 3 года назад

Well, we should take wise lessons, from Denethor, Saruman, Aragorn; as it is obvious how easily the hearts of men are corrupted, and as most of us who look through the Palantir, (which we now cary in our pockets) most often only see what we are shown, and what we are meant to indulge in, and be preoccupied with; only the strong ánd pure are willing and able (like Aragorn) to divert there gaze to what is actual, imminent and important

@dombowombo3076 3 года назад

well said!

@josephbuttigieg9757 5 лет назад

@GeekZone in the future... Anyone who would like to know something about Tolkien's world will inevitably be directed to your channel. This is Tolkien gold

@duncanmitchelson9503 5 лет назад

I love how he used the artwork from the mtg card mirari at 2:13

@deekeller9562 3 года назад

I know, it warmed my geek heart to see the old Mirari again

@c.ladimore1237 6 лет назад

i had no idea about the physical orientation of a palantir and its influence. fascinating!

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

It makes me wonder whether their creators could have changed their orientation somehow!

@c.ladimore1237 6 лет назад

perhaps the major spheres were aligned in such a way like primary colors, and the minors were in a mix of the zones

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Mhm that's quite an interesting thought, I like it! If you haven't read it before, I'd highly recommend checking out the Palantiri chapter in the Unfinished Tales! :)

@fanaticbogey 6 лет назад

Always made me wonder why would they put a palantir in Minas Ithil? It's on the mountains of Mordor! I understand the whole bit about early warning and no one would expect to lose such a well armed fortress city but I'd think the palantir was too dangerous to fall into enemy hands. And the Osgiliath stone was supposed to be so big, why wouldn't they have dredged the river for it? It wouldn't be rolling away in the river as it was too heavy, and it was such a powerful artifact of magic why wouldn't they have put forth the effort to find it? Let's assume it would only roll down hill or into the muck. That means they could have created a massive effort to find a narrow part of the river and make a palantir-weir to hold it, then starting at the point of the building on the river, with massive barges and tree-sized spikes, rake the floor of the river downwards until they found it or came to the weir. Then they would have recovered the eavesdropping master stone.

@metalmadsen 5 лет назад

As a geek this is my favorit zone ❤

@jonathanjerome17 8 месяцев назад

I smiled when the Mirari showed up :D

@ArtKO171 5 лет назад

This artefact is fascinating in the movies. The scene between Sauron and Aragorn was epic. Thanks for this video. But I have a question. How Sauron can show whatever he want to the user of the palantir ?

@pwmiles56 5 лет назад

I do enjoy your movies GZ. Quite reasonably they are done (very nicely) from an "in-mythos" point of view. However there is another approach to Tolkienology, by some called Quellenkritik (source criticism). Thus: Tolkien himself recorded the origin of the Palantiri in the rhyme "What brought they from the foundered land/Over the flowing sea?/Seven stars and seven stones/And one white tree" (Two Towers Chapter 11), which he found running in his head one day. Now I've a theory these words call up the 1816 novel "The Antiquary" by Sir Walter Scott. The eponymous hero has some belongings stolen which he describes (misquoting Hudibras) as "My copperplate, with almanacks/Engraved upon’t and other knacks/My moon-dial, with Napier’s bones,/And several constellation Stones;/My flea, my morpeon, and punaise,/I purchased for my proper ease" (Chapter 3). There are various other LOTR references in the Scott novel :) -- a hillside refuge, a rope rescue, a prophecy in a dream. The Antiquary himself is Mr Jonathan Oldbuck, sharing the former surname of the Brandybucks.

@docbrown7916 5 лет назад

As always a great vid, I love back story stuff, fictional or real life.

@cirkleobserver3217 4 года назад

I'm noticed a striking similarity in the properties of the Palantiri and the rings of power, which would make sense since elves were involved in the creation of both. They both dictate powers of visibility, tough the rings obviously take things a bit further with their capacity to control. Oh, and they both have a master. I see them both as analogs for surveillance (whether that was intentional or not).

@badgeleys 6 лет назад

Always love your Videos!

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Thanks mate!

@vmycode5142 6 лет назад

anyone noticed that there is a space shuttle at 13:00 in the lower right corner?

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Numenor had some sick technology

@Jordan-vr7ip 5 лет назад

What the hell is that part of the lore or what? Who built it and where did it come from?

@josephkoester3217 5 лет назад

@@Jordan-vr7ip I'm pretty sure its not part of the lore

@OtherDalfite 4 года назад

@@josephkoester3217 frodo and Sam weren't actually saved by eagles, that was just what made sense to their minds as Gandalf flew in on the space shuttle and saved them from mount doom exploding. Tolkien talks about this in his later books.

@vincedibona4687 4 года назад

@13:00 - lower right hand corner, why is there a US Space Shuttle in the painting???

@jotha885 4 года назад

Good catch

@Steve0C 6 лет назад

Another great video. I'm wondering if you know if in any of the extended tales if they have an extended elaboration of what is essentially middle earths equivalent of the book of revelation, in which Morgoth comes back and if finally defeated for good. I know it's briefly mentioned in one of the tales but wasn't sure if there were any elaborate or in depth stories regarding it.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

It's quite ambiguous to be honest as we're not told much about it since it was merely a draf that Tolkien had written. I hope to cover it in a video in the next few months!

@madmeddik 6 лет назад

wasnt it said that Turin would be the one to finally slay Morgoth?

@psychotripnerdstuff 6 лет назад

I know an image from Oblivion when I see one! Is that from a mod? Also, great video dude. I'm loving your content!

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers mate! Which image are you referring to? :)

@psychotripnerdstuff 6 лет назад

There's an image of a palantir in the center of the Elder Council chamber from Oblivion.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Ahhh hadn't noticed!

@zeromancer-x 6 лет назад

He also used one of the Mirari from Magic the Gathering. That's the one I immediately recognized, myself.

@adamclayton5092 5 лет назад

I think he used a sigil stone as a comparison. It has a very similar appearance

@timothywarren3748 5 лет назад

You great making these videos plus a cool accent makes your narrator unique

@VADER677 5 лет назад

When I saw the image of Mirrari I freaked.

@TheMrbubbles1378 4 года назад

I was like wait... wait a minute that is Mirrari...

@zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

now this is a lotr lore video. love it. nice work sir.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers Zach! :)

@brucetucker4847 6 лет назад

Thanks for the great video! I had never thought of the palantiri being brought to Beleriand in the First Age. Interesting theory. I do wonder how they'd get back to Valinor, though, or for that matter where and how the sons of Feanor would have kept them. They probably would have kept them int heir homes, which would mean Morgoth's forces probably would have taken some or all of them as they overran most of Beleriand. Perhaps they were recovered after the War of Wrath and handed over to the surviving Noldorin leaders. But didn't most of them - Celebrimbor, Gil-galad, Galadriel, Elrond - remain in Middle-earth? So I'm thinking if they were in Middle-earth at the end of the First Age they probably would have stayed, which leads me to think they were probably back in Valinor the whole time until the were given to Amandil. Certainly the Noldor would have had to leave a lot of their treasures behind - in fact, there's no mention I'm aware of of their going back to Formenos, where Finwe and Feanor had been living during Feanor's exile, to pick up any belongings.

@kellyhoffman4481 6 лет назад

If possible, could you do a video about the Sea of Nurnen in Mordor? I understand that their may not be much info but I've always been curious about its background.

@MrMaxenen11 6 лет назад

Very interesting video. Well done!

@infernalone666 5 лет назад

Pippin foreseeing Sauron's attack on Minas Tirith was only in the movie. In the book, since Saruman used the Orthanc stone always to converse with Sauron, it would bring its user in contact with Sauron immediately. Pippin used it and saw Barad-Dur in the book. Gandalf suspected that when Sauron would learn of Saruman's defeat at the hands of Rohan, he would become hasty in his plans and attack Gondor sooner than he wanted.

@a.razakabilagbo7409 4 года назад

I love your videos men!!!!!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌

@michael1345 6 лет назад

It is interesting that the Mirror of Galadriel acted like a Palantiri. It could see distant things.It could look into the past and possible futures.

@KillerBeastHeadshotman 6 лет назад

Yesss new video!!! Thank you for uploading bro😎

@richif4500 6 лет назад

Love Lotr read the books and know a lot from the tabletop Game. Maybe a video about the fights in the North where the dwarfs fight against the dragons? Keep it up, nice channel

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers Richi! I'll add it to my list! :)

@laurenceurhegyi4167 6 лет назад

Great video! Where do the quotes from Gandalf come from?

@Cory_Dora 6 лет назад

What always bothered me about the palatir is how Gandalf seems totally unaware where the palantir were. That part of the books always rubbed me a bit wrong. In all the years Saruman was steward of the tower, how did Gandalf not know of its existence? As for Denother, he was always twisted by power and never trusted the wizards, so no surprise Gandalf had no knowledge of that one.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Though Gandalf was aware of their existance, I believe he underestimated their potential use during the war of the ring, seeing them rather as an artefact of a lost age (If I remember correctly he says so in the books). Also Saruman would have probably kept the palantir a secret as did Denethor, especially if he saw it as a means to surpass Gandalf in terms of knowledge

@isaiasramosgarcia9771 6 лет назад

he knowed!

@Cory_Dora 6 лет назад

Isaias Ramos Garcia you mean “he knew?”

@erfelgamazig 4 года назад

Thanks this is great insight! 🙌🙌

@arashyarmand5624 5 лет назад

There was another palantir too. It was in Dul Guldor. I noticed it in Hobbit during the fight between the nine, Saruman, Sauran, Gladerial and Elrod.

@jayhardy1683 6 лет назад

Ok question, how did smeagle not turn into a wraith like the nine men. I googled it and “an average hobbit lives to be about 100 years” smeagle is almost 600 Year’s old. Bilbo says he feels thin when he’s 111 so smeagle should definitely be a wraith after having the ring for so long right? How does one become a wraith in Lotr / what is the ‘wraith-becoming’ process?

@KillerCrocZilla 5 лет назад

With wraith i'm assuming you're talking about the ring wraiths right? They became wraiths after the ring Sauron gave to each of them corrupted them (they can also turn people into lesser wraiths with their morgul blades). As of Gollum, the rings of power increase the life span of their wearer's, so even though hobbits only live around 110 years, the ring gave him unnatural longetivity. He did not become a wraith because it was the one ring, who does not transform in wraith.

@holicekaderliiii6787 6 лет назад

Very nice :) The Palantiri kind of remind me of the Dragon Orbs from the Dragonlance books. There were five in total. Each orb had a soul of a dragon. The danger of this was the soul/s were that of the Chromatic dragons, red, blue, green, black and white. To use them the weilder had to bend thw soul of the dragon to their will.. If they failed the orb would control them or worse. During the dragon was the Elven king of Silanesti tried to use his orb which housed the soul of a Green Dragon. He failed. Green dragons are cunning, deceptive and manipulative. The Dragon Orb then called Cyan Bloodbane the most powerful Green dragon of that age and he then whispered horrid thought and nightmares into the enthaled king ears causing the kingdom to warp into a living nightmare. Very dangerous.

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Thanks holice, I'm not familiar with those books! :)

@holicekaderliiii6787 6 лет назад

They're great books. Of course Tolkien's works are my first love. If you are intersted in reading them the first three are, in order, Dragons of Autumn Twilight, Dragons of Winter Night and Dragons of Spring Dawning.

@greenbasterd420 4 года назад

Love the seven sons theory!!!!

@viveleqc360 6 лет назад

Awesome Video friend!

@belegcuthalion6397 4 года назад

Just wanted to say thanks love the video

@C.K.Productions 5 лет назад

Havent finished the video, but this kinda looks like the big black sphere on top of the mountain where the ghost soldiers would gather. Was that object, as it appeared "unearlthy;" a palantiri?

@-myhcroft-8475 5 лет назад

13:04 There is a space shuttle in the bottom right hand corner.

@leosabat4636 5 лет назад

that is a good eye awarness

@evantyler8647 4 года назад

Noice

@j-dogsgaming1001 6 лет назад

hey could u do a lord of the rings video on Aragon

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

For sure, it's already on my list!

@j-dogsgaming1001 6 лет назад

GeekZone Cheers mate

@wolfparkour 6 лет назад

Good video man I love lore videos. GJ

@DevinDeCremer 5 лет назад

Forgive my lack of knowledge. But what of the watery mirror in Lothlorien?

@MrDemonz101 6 лет назад

New video idea and question I am very interested in. Where did the surviving orcs go after the destruction of the ring (movies) and after Saruman's defeat (books)

@puppetmasterey 6 лет назад

I have a kinda weird what if scenario. What if the ring was sent to Valanor and was accepted/destroyed by the Valar. With the context being on what happens to Sauron other that him not getting his full power back. Like what happens to the orcs, the way with the free peoples of Middle Earth, does he still win? That kinda thing

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

It's interesting for sure, I'll add it to my list, perhaps I'll make a video on it in the future! Thanks for the suggestion!

@AttyDouro22 6 лет назад

Great vid man

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers Randyl! =)

@freddymeisner 3 года назад

Music from Divinity 2. Hell yeah.

@nayncat17 6 лет назад

Big fan of your videos and lore, please keep it up!

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Cheers Jake, glad to have you with us mate!

@raymartinez5788 5 лет назад

Great video 💯

@His_Name_Was_King 5 лет назад

Great job

@jlthegreatlindmark7974 6 лет назад

great work geek i have a smal question how many orcs lived in the misty mountains? why there? was it the balrog ho wanted it? what did the Balrog think or feel concerning orcs moving in to his home? ;) like i sade good work and i really appreciate your wideos

@LordTelperion 3 года назад

Denethor had a slight advantage using the Palantir, as they were biometrically programed to obey the Numenoreans, of which Denethor had quite a bit. Not enough though, ultimately.

@USSRBot 5 лет назад

wow made almost the same thing in my 1990 d&d spelljammer campaign, almost the same thing but mine was just for communication between ships

@TheColossus1313 6 лет назад

Do you take requests? If so can you do Gondor and/or Arnor? Maybe even the Reunited kingdom under King Elessar?

@masamune2984 3 года назад

Did anyone else get that Amazon Alexa ad about “The Death of Finrod,” before this video, and get left confused and with SO many questions?

@zamshawn16719 5 лет назад

how amazing Tolkein write this in the 19th century without the knowledge of phones

@varanasiwalks1451 5 лет назад

He began to write it in 1937.

@hoppystar439 6 лет назад

Yesss! Welcome back!!

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Thanks Melissa, hope you had a nice cup of tea to go with this video!

@hoppystar439 6 лет назад

Of course I did! :D It would be a crime to watch your videos without one now!

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

You've gotta recommend me some good teas oneday, I've only recently started experimenting with different ones, gotta find my favourite!

@hoppystar439 6 лет назад

I drink mostly the British brand: PG Tips :D

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Ah, I was referring to the different flavours!

@kieranb7747 6 лет назад

HEY BRO! i know a good idea for a video! tell us about who berin was ? the guy who went into the spider mountain and what happened, please. sounds so fucking awesome

@GeekZoneMT 6 лет назад

Ye I'd love to make a video about him in the future!

@kieranb7747 6 лет назад

great great, have a good day man. big fan of your channel.