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The power of a Wizard's staff is presumably located at its apex, as the song says 'A wizard's staff has a knob on the end'. (Shameless Discworld reference.)
Elrond didn't stop isildur because with his ability of foresight, he sensed that in another universe, men were going to write books and make movies about middle earth. Elrond thought it would make a good story to not stop isildur and he would make a cameo appearance in those forms of media. Elrond likes the limelight.
Th greatest power of Sauron was his power of persuasion, manipulation, and, above all, domination of will. In a way his scary physical form is almost a distraction from the way in which he is really most dangerous
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Had Elrond taken the ring, and IMMEDIATELY destroyed it, before it had time to corrupt his mind, the story of Sauron would have been over. Even if it leads to war between the elves and men, it's still a better alternative then what Middle Earth DOES get afterwards. And Sauron at this point, is irrevocably diminished, and cannot exploit the situation, without his ring. It would seem to be that Elrond, wise as he is, would have seen that this was at least a better outcome then letting the ring survive.
I have NEVER understood Sauron's desire or need to create the ring; whatever of his power he pours into it, diminishes his physical form by that amount. So, if he were able, somehow, to take back that power from the ring, he's merely Sauron as he was BEFORE he made the ring. Yet, he gives that power away into an object that POTENTIALLY (though he doesn't believe it can happen) be taken from him. Why would he do this? Why not keep his natural power WITHIN himself? Why would he diminish himself in power, to put into a ring? It makes no sense to me.
I don’t think he abandoned his mission. I think he was holding true to his mission. I believe his betrayal was part of the historic song sung in Valinor. The battle of the Hornberg is such a major part of the story that there is no way they did not know Saruman would turn. Or if they didn’t know then only Illuvatar truly understood the song being sung.
Note that numenoreans jad a lifespan.the.most pure blooded Elros lived 505 years, so although as far in.oast you go, people live.more years, it would had passed.too.much centuries.since the cavern imprisonment till dagor dagorath....they would have died.of oldness...unless the punishment of valar were they never diedbecause of age. In that case, living thousands.years.into a cavern without dying, most probably led them.into.madness
I knew it. The Kinslaying of Alqualondë and the suffering of exilic Noldor are inside jobs. The Valar and their little game of chess. ''Where was Eru when the world burns?''
I enjoyed the addition of the elves in Helms Deep, it gives them a bit more presence in the conflict besides hanging around in their kingdoms, I also enjoyed the feeling of the children of Eru standing together against evil one last time.
He did evil things and his actions were evil to achieve his objective which wasn’t an evil objective. He believed his means justified the ends - then over time his means became confused and mixed with his end goal he became an embodiment of evil action rather than a good being, doing bad things
The Nine seem to have many weaknesses and few strengths! By the way, it’s not clear whether Eowyn or Merry killed the witch-king. The book does not specify. Better to say that they did it together.
Imagine being Cirdan. Living there on the shore YEARNING for the West- but having been instucted by the Valar to stay in Middle Earth to build ships so others could sail west. For thousands and thousands of years! Poor Cirdan!
The dark people are the ones who enforce and praise their inefficiency and uselessness. the lack of anything at all does come from waste and the excuses of religion, flaws, and the shadows humans cast is the shade of their folly.
My only issue with the elves being present is that they just disappear. What happened to them? Jackson didn’t think that through because it goes against what Tolkien wrote. Yeah, it was cool when they showed up, but they just disappear after it shows a few get killed
Can a ring of power even *be* taken forcefully? Like has it ever happened apart from Isildor and The One Ring? The rings are "invisible" to anyone but ring bearers right? Is that just the elven ones or all of them apart from Saurons ring? Cause the "invisiblity" of the rings when worn. May be more intangible than described. Maybe they dont reside in the physical world when worn? much like the ring-wraiths or someone wearing The One Ring. Maybe the rings, when worn act like an inversion of how The one ring works? Instead of transporting the user's physical form to the wraith world. Maybe its the rings physical form that goes? Would also explain why ring bearers can see it. The Nazgul are ring bearers, as was Sauron, Frodo, Gandalf & Gladrial, Golum. All people who've seen both worlds. And several of them can see frodo even when wearing the one ring. Golum is also the only being i think we see remove someone elses ring while its worn. He grabbed Frodo while he was invisible and bit off his finger. It had been decades since Golum wore the ring, so maybe his connection was weaker. But he could still sense frodo's location.
I encourage you all to read "Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth", a short story in MORGOTH'S RING. Its a story about Galadriel's brother Finrod visiting an aging human woman who was in love with their brother Aegnor, and their conversation about the gulf that exists between the fate of their two unique races. It gets deep into the foundations of Tolkiens belief in the sanctity of sentient souls as gifted by God, and references the theory of Morgoth corrupting Elves into Orcs. In the Athrabeth, in the conversation between Finrod and Andreth, Finrod articulated the Elves' belief that it cannot be true that Morgoth has enough power to change the entire nature of a sentient, soulful being against the will of God. That it is simply impossible for him to take Elves, beings with souls and fates, and do something to them with such power that he alters them, body and soul, into something against the designs of God himself. That he has the power to alter the birthright of their offspring, change the cosmic fate of an entire race.. it simply is impossible, and FAR beyond Morgoths power. Andreth expresses the human belief that humans were corrupted by Morgoth early, and that mortality and death were the resulting punishment handed down to us by Iluvatar, not the "Gift" that it was meant to be. Finrod is shocked by this belief, and tells her "If it was so, as she said, that he changed the fate of an entire people against the design of Eru, then all their strife against him was folly and even the Mountains of the Pélori were built on sand". It is easy to parallel this mistaken belief about the changing of Mens nature and fate to the belief of the changing of Orcs' nature and fate. Men and Elves have souls, and the fate of each of their souls, and their purpose in the world, is established by Iluvatar and CANNOT be altered, even by the Valar. This concept was definitively demonstrated by their handling of Earendil, the Half-Elven, the effects of unnatural life on Gollum, the Nazgul, the Army of the Dead, Numenor, etc. These beings, Elves and Men, have souls that have fates designated by Iluvatar himself and cannot be changed. And, regarding the case of Gwindor of Nargothrond - he was captured and held in Angband for 17yrs. He came out changed, uncharacteristically aged in appearance, brutalized and traumatized, but still an Elf. Nothing more than a greatly marred and damaged Elf, but still only just an Elf. In the conversation, Finrod basically acknowledges the theory about twisted Elves/orcs, but that he and the Eldar believe its BS. Kind of an in-universe debunking of the theory
First of all, and despite that essay in Morgoth''s Ring, I would say that the Valar were perhaps not a reliable source of information on the subject. Ar-Pharazon's army was trapped alive under a mountain until the end times, by Eru, not the Valar. Perhaps they would have achieved some form of immortality, but it may not have been a pleasant experience. Secondly, the initial plan of the Valar, was to prepare a home for both children in Middle-Earth, were they would live side-by-side. It wasn't until after Melkor's destruction of the lamps they retreated to Valinor and decided to create a safe haven for elves there, while leaving men to untold suffering in ME. Any clear cut truth on the subject remains hazy. The only thing we can say for sure is that the Ainur sucked at their job.
I think they are dark thoughts of Eru Iluvatar. Before he thought of the good and pure music, he must have wondered what could happen if notes he didn't like were in there and he must have created them to know and then cast them beyond the Timeless Halls when he created the Valar and Maiar and once Arda was made he cast them under where the Misty Mountains would be and placed Tom Bombadil in Arda for if they ever got out! Tom does not leave his land because so far he has no reason to. Maybe after the final battle at the end of Arda and after the reforming and purifying of Arda Tom and Goldenberry might finally either return to the Timeless Halls or go to Valinor.
Three Elves at helm's deep was plenty! The majority of orc deaths were at the 'hands' of the hourns, there was no need to diversify from humanity for the demise of the second of two towers challenge to men. Ellahan, Ellrohir & legolas, are a massive investment from the Eldar, at Helm's deep & the paths of the dead. The obvious pc preferences must be cultural appropriation! Cannon matters not, prostitute the story & corrupt the message🙄🙄🙄
They (valar) are too a being with pride and bias of having immortality and power to create other than a life, same as human with desires Well they are way too proud to be entrusted with responsibilities laid by Eru himself