The history of the clichés of high school culture 

I fondly remember tossing up Eisenhower, and watching him execute a double twist in a very short skirt.

I wanna see that

No fuckin way... Lolol

So was George H.W. Bush, family tradition of sorts

Lol

This is what I immediately thought.

Very nice explanation

I graduated in 2020 and can attest to the weird computer-nerd-gym-bro hybrid that has emerged

It also looks like there's multiple references to He-Man and the Masters of the Universe.

@@joshuapolacheck8879 Was about to that.

I only bought the first year and last year books. You got a pic of almost everyone you knew that way.

Yep, my twin sister and I had to share ours because we we’re going spend over $100 for the same book for 4 years

@@Drawfield Dude I feel dumb now, my twin and I should've done that.

@@juliesrail6886 only bad thing was who got to take it to which class to have people sign it - thankfully ours had extra signing pages so one of us got the book and the other got the extra pages

yeah I was a bit thrown off when JJ said yearbooks were free. That was never the case for me. I only had yearbooks for my freshman (9th) and senior (12th) years because my parents didnt want to spend the money on them.

I feel like you will, but the people living through it now need to get old enough to be the ones making the tv shows and movies.

What I would say is that nowadays lines between "cliques" are a lot more blurry so if you're trying to write a simple highschool story then it would be more difficult than just using these well defined and tried and true cliques. You'd need more depth than most highschool media wants to put in the effort to add

cliques like what?

@@Thenomnomfairy The classic archetypes for highschool such as nerd, jock, cheerleader, etc. He mentioned a lot of them in the video

@@fortgaming9058 I think he's asking about the newer cliques?

Fuck empty acronyms

Fuck College Board

I’m confused how is the SAT based on eugenics?

@@TACTICALwaffle2 There was a belief that logic and intelligence was innate for people, thats in part where some of the really weird questions origin from.

That seems metaphorically resonant now

I think marching bands are a bigger thing in the south than the US as a whole.

I always found it bizarre that high school and college marching bands still wear Napoleonic-style military uniforms. Where and how did this tradition begin, and why do schools still do this?

@@loremipsum9444 good question. All I could come up with us it looks professional and sharp. I’m sure JJ will find the real answer if there is one. He has a skill for finding out information.

@@tigernotwoods914 not really from my experience. Marching bands seem to be the most common type of visual/performing arts at high schools I've been to and are almost always present at every home football game.

@@tigernotwoods914 i don’t think so, they seemed just as big in wisconsin as in texas (i’ve lived in both)

That's not entirely true. I believe it was more prevalent in the past, however, there are still schools where bullying is a problem.

​@@cassidyjewel3639It's both exaggerated in movies and outdated.

Bullying and fighting is real. At my school we had lots of gangs so that was the source of most of the fighting. But not 100% i knew someone that was threatened with a gun walking home, and someone else that had boiling water poured on her. There are a lot of fake people especially more popular people. Betrayal is a problem. Lots of friendships end terribly or one friend relentlessly bullies the other friend until they cant handle it anymore. But no it isn't all doom and gloom depends on the crowd you hang out with mostly

cliques dont rlly exist neither does popularity most ppl mind their business but yeah there are some fake ppl

For the most part you'd be correct in your assumptions

Depends on the high schools. Some are worst than others. My 2 highschools were very normal, believe it or not. So if you went there fearing expectation, than be relieve it wasn't the case

Idk my expereince is just hangout with freinds. Im sure all that heppened but i didnt notice. And cliques were not so enforced. You could say i was part of 3 different ones. No one really cared what else you did as long as you were freindly.

This is such a great comment. I graduated in 2019 and there wasn't a single player on my HS Football Team that didn't play video games, and on my Rugby team there was even a group of 5-10 of us that held occasional Dungeons and Dragons games. The cliche of jocks vs nerds doesn't quite hold up as well as it used to.

I second this interpretation. This was me in HS

I feel that this is the high school version of “Tech Bros” or those guys in their mid 20s that really guy into “grind culture”, since the kids who were part of this subculture usually morph into these archetypes once they leave high school

Yeah i also graduated around the same time and video games were literally what the cool people did

Nerdy stuff is mainstream now sadly .

Yep, I had more people bothering me because they saw me alone and felt bad than people trying to mess with me.

I had a similar experience. By the time senior year came around I barely had any friends. If there's a 10 year reunion, I don't know if I'll go because there's probably only 2 people I would talk to.

I would have gone through the same thing but I was more outgoing and had no problem sitting with other people like the jocks I was nervous around people but if I felt they was friendly enough I was outgoing

Same here. I've never seen that other kind.

Came looking for this comment; I had no idea Pillsbury made a pizza pocket.

pizza pops are pretty good

Living across eastern US, I have only ever seen the rectangular hot pocket as well

To be fair as a Winnipeger. We have known both "Pizza Pops" and Hot pockets. The Pizza pop used to be sold direct by the inventor (i think) then he sold the concept to Pillsbury. As a kid we had both available to us, but I would say I have eaten somewhere around 99/1 ratio of Pizza Pops to Hot pockets, not because they were not available, but because they were just better. I only found out in my mid thirties that Pizza pops were an invention in my hometown.

Frog breeding for scientific purposes is something of an industry, yes.

High school near where I live still disects cats interestingly.

Yeah, while I never ended up doing it in my classes, I did hear of other classes in my school that had ended up dissecting cats.

my high school dissected baby pigs

Yeah, at my school frogs and cow eyes would be dissected in every normal biology class and cats, ducks, and all sorts of fun stuff would be dissected in the Ag science classes. I remember being pissed because the honors biology classes didn't dissect anything because we were expected to understand the anatomy without needing a physical example so I didn't get to dissect a frog like I wanted to and I still failed the anatomy test.

Eh, sort of? SAT strategies have shown to only have a very limited effect. Like if you dont understand a passage, no SAT strategy will make it so that you do.

I don't think so. It's a cumulative knowledge test, so studying won't help much. I certainly didn't study for mine.

i got the same score and i was on xanax throughout high school. just depends on the person and how they learn

Sounds like the JEE or NEET exam we have here

Ya got ripped off fam it was only 40 bucks in my hs

@@Alessandro_Berlusc seems like we both got ripped off, JJ got his for $0 lol

I didn't buy mine because it would be 100 dollars. Hell no 💀

I had to pay every year (elementary through high school) so as a result I never got one :) covid hit while I was finishing up my junior year, but things got so bad at my house I had to drop out. Completely missed my senior year, but I really hope they gave that class some free goddamn yearbooks lmao

In my high school in the US, my senior yearbook was over $100

I graduated kindergarten

@@jefferynelson that's really impressive. Can you bless us with some of your knowledge you gained from there?

@@andrewg.3281 if the teacher reads the story of Stone Soup & announces that's what's for lunch tomorrow, it doesn't mean she's going to make you eat rocks

@@andrewg.3281 make sure not to run with scissors

I dropped out of kindergarten back in the day.

its just cuz your a zoomer the other movies depicted a more accurate picture of the time, its up to your generation to make movies that relate better to yall

The one I like is 21 Jump Street when the guys are surprised that the “cool kids” are the academic ones that take things seriously

As someone who went to school in Australia, I always assumed the portrayals of American school in media were accurate when I was younger.

You must have been one of the popular kids if you think they're kind and empathetic and the only reason they're respectful to teachers is because they're suck ups and know they can get away with torturing others students because the teachers are also former bitchy popular kids that still act like a clique.

While it's an anime and it's more meant to depict Japan, "Love is War" does a pretty decent job at depicting modern high school and teens in a way the rings fairly true, even for the Americas

Yeah, I was like "Whaaaat?" when he said that. Granted, I'm Canadian but I wouldn't expect they'd be giving out the books down South for free either. It would run into quite a chunk of change.

Yup pretty sure my senior highschool yearbook was 50-80$ depending on personalizations and what not and the pictures weren’t free either 😂 had to pay a decent amount to get a framed sized version

mine was wierd, everyone got it but we sourced the money from adverts in the yearbook

I think the cheapest I paid in middle school was $40 and it only went up as I got older.

My high-school ones were $90 if you waited too long to buy them

To me anglo-americans and anglgo canadians are basically the same as someone from a different part of the world.

Canada is the same with usa. Both shitholes

It's just like Malaysia and Singapore. They like bickering on how different their cultures are, but they are basically the same

i just figured canadian culture was like "we're not american guys" though being like almost identical to a regular american

@@rauldjvp3053 I think the only difference between America and Canada are the political and social differences. Culturally there are virtually zero differences

It would likely be boring imo

@@deepspacecow2644agree, although I’m bot american I graduated in 2022 and tbh highschool was a boring experience when it comes down on cliques etc. it doesn’t really exist anymore.

I feel like gen z won’t have nostalgia for high school the way filmmakers used to. As a gen z I feel like I’dbe more likely to make content with the “classic” American high school setting than what I actually grew up with

Rat Fink is still a big deal ! (at least here in San Diego lmfao - we still unironically play Sublime everywhere like its The Weeknd and have since 1992)

It also reminds me of 90's skater punk.

Reminded me of Garbage Pail Kids

It's been 20 years since I was in high school but that's basically right from my perspective and memory.

American movies focused on high schools are super not realistic. As a high school teacher today, the sheer lack of teachers or administration present as students do crazy stuff in the hallways always gives me a laugh.

Those are actually the more accurate parts of American hs.😆

@@ghintz2156 that's interesting to me because my HS almost never had a teacher or Admin in the hallways. There was barely room for the students, we were shoulder to shoulder over all 3 floors, the stairs were legitimately like an 8 minute process. And the teachers only had the 10 minute passing period to prepare for the next class. If it wasn't in their classroom it wasn't something they super cared about unless they absolutely had to.

Not at all

If i remember correctly HSM was an actual highschool from like Utah or something. I just found that interesting

Ok so after doing a bit of research I have found that: For Springfield Elementary Lance Wilder, the background design supervisor for The Simpsons, was born in Lowell, Massachusetts on May 7, 1968 and raised in Chelmsford. Lance graduated from Chelmsford High School in 1986. The elementary school appearing in The Simpsons is based on what is now known as McCarthy Middle School, which was Chelmsford’s high school before the construction of the current Chelmsford High School in 1974. I also found that: "Chelmsford High School is a public, coeducational high school founded in 1917. The current building is located in North Chelmsford, Massachusetts, United States, and was built in 1974. Before 1974 the high school was located in the current McCarthy Middle School building." So basically the current "McCarthy Middle School" actually used to act as a high school. And said high school was found and built around 1917, and only changed buildings once the new current high school for Chelmsford was built in 1974. And the original The Simpsons background design supervisor went to the old building for his high school before the new one was completed. For 16 Candles Most of the exterior scenes and some of the interior scenes were filmed at Niles East High The auto shop scene was also filmed at Niles East High School, in the auto shop. Niles East was first opened in 1938 It had also been used in Weird Science and Pretty In Pink A cafeteria scene and a gym scene were filmed at Niles North High School. (Niles North was opened in 1964) So while this is perhaps the most "modern" high school you mentioned and had been built in the late 1930s, it still is a product of the first half of 20th century architecture and design. For High School Musical Salt Lake High School East or simply East High School based in Utah was where filming took place for the movie. The original building was completed in 1913, and the current structure was built in 1997. So make of that what you will, but the original building apparently for East High is the earliest build on this little list here it seems. So all in all, fittingly enough, for the schools in the movies and shows that you named, they were either built in or around the 1910s-20s like you had alluded to.

​@@cruzgomes5660 I knew basically none of these specifics, but this is really cool to know. Niles East is interesting...it's definitely Art Deco but in a very bland way, still taking inspiration from those earlier styles.

@@williamminns9000 indeed. I'm still learning all these architecture terms so it was cool as well to read them from your initial comment and be able to put a name and term to this common school architecture style seen in pop culture that I hadn't even initially had realized at first till you pointed it out. Good informative discussion all around!

@@cruzgomes5660 For movies shot in LA, John Marshall High School in Los Feliz and Walter Reed Middle School in North Hollywood have been used too many times to count. It's surprising LeConte Middle School in mid-Hollywood isn't at the tippy-top of the list too since it's on the same block as Sunset Bronson Studios (the original Warner Bros lot and currently home to Netflix HQ).

Those sound awesome. What damn regulations would keep something that awesome from kids.

Aye it's still iconic, even for Gen Z. Might not feel like it just came out yesterday, but it aged fairly well.

I’ve heard from Brits say similar things. Which is funny, because a lot of American parents imagine British high schools to be so much better by comparison, which is why elite American private schools try so hard to copy British traditions. The show Gossip Girl is a good portrayal of that.

Completely agree. I’m American and went to an elite high school in California and I’d say that the parents and teachers cared so much about the students getting amazing grades and having a stellar extracurricular resume in order to prep for applications to the most prestigious universities, particularly the Ivy League universities. However, that only partially was on the minds of the students… getting a brand new Mercedes for their 16th birthdays or knowing the latest clique gossip was equally or more so the focus of the students.

@@JJMcCullough I think alot of that is just more upper class behavior and viewed as how elite schools for rich kids should be run. Idk if they're specifically trying to emulate British schools, idk maybe some are.

Obviously I have no personal experience but from what I've seen and heard from people online in Europe, mainly like Germany and the UK school does sound kind of lame compared to some parts of schools in the US lol. Of course alot of movies do exaggerate things, but the general lack of sports which can produce alot of commraditiy among students, even if you don't play and the lack of parties and things like driving together to off campus lunches definitely seems lame lol.

@@chickenfishhybrid44 We can't drive off campus at school because the age at which you can get your licence is 17, and the high school leaving age is 16 (although I and many others stayed on until 18 to get the qualifications needed for university). We do have sports at school and the best students do compete against other schools, but what we lack is the culture best summed up by the expression "school spirit". In the UK we don't generally develop the same passion for our school and the rivalries with other schools are not as intense. The exception to this tends to be the upper class fee-paying schools, where school identity is very strong. It's just a different way of doing things. We don't even refer to finishing school as "graduation" - at least not when I left 20 years ago. You only graduated from university (college). Leaving school was just called that - leaving.

I’m vaguely familiar with Kyle as kinda like the “skater” kid asshole. I have no clue what a Joker Kid or a Hot Cheeto Girl is. Btw I graduated high school in 2020 so I probably should know about this…

Hot Cheetos girls and Emo kids are pretty old things I’d say,. I was an emo kid back when the MySpace band/underground hardcore bands became a thing and started in my sophomore/junior year. The super early stages of it popped off when I was in high school, and I graduated in ‘08. Back when, if you were a guy and wanted some extra super skinny jeans, you had to wear girls jeans 😂 I was on more of the hardcore/metal side of it so no neon colors or crazy color “accessories”. Girls black jeans with studded belts, super tight black band T’s, vans/or converse, sweat band or bandana head bands, and the quintessential ridiculous straightened long hair. And to think we had any room to make fun of goth kids 🤣

@@Bacon__SteezBurger hard to think of the last time ive seen an emo kid a la myspace era... i remember evolving from a scene kid in my early highschool days to a metalhead goth by the time i graduated. havent really changed since. interesting to see how we've all grown out of emo/scene fashion and music and grew into other subcultures that have been around for much longer. turns out it was a phase, sorry mom lol makes me wonder how "e-kids" will turn out. i think theyre the modern equivalent of emo/scene kids of the 2000s/2010s

This one deserves a Slowpoke meme. Mid-2000s middle school and high school was almost nothing but Emo.

@@Bacon__SteezBurger Cheeto girl is actually an outdated term now or at least in my highschool we now call them Taki girls instead

Lol maybe YOU! Or maybe now a days… but Mean Girls is slightly exaggerated but yes, pretty accurate! Clueless is completely not accurate compared to most of the United States because it’s based in Beverly Hills, but if you were to go to school in Beverly Hills.. it IS COMPLETELY accurate!

Dude ikr! Whenever I meet Europeans I feel bad to completely let them down because high school in the US is pretty much nothing like how it's depicted in media. Not even vaguely similar in my recent experience at a typical suburban high school... But maybe there are a few places like in Southern California where it could make more sense?

On TV American High Schools always seemed to be having some big event Homecoming, Prom, etc. And you got to wear your own clothes, which were always cool/designer stuff. I always wondered when you did school work.

@@gemmeldrakes2758 American schools have a big distribution in quality. Basically, there are some schools where the kids are constantly busy with schoolwork, and are basically workaholics with little free time outside of homework -- and these schools feed much of the elite private universities and high quality public universities. Then, the other type of high school, which is a much larger portion of schools, students are mostly just screwing around and don't have all that much homework and such. So the latter type of school they have time to party all the time and have social drama and such as depicted in media. The contradiction with media's depiction though, is that the former type of school (the workaholic school) tends to be in wealthier schools districts, while the other is in poorer and more normal school districts. Weirdly, media shows the lifestyle of poorer schools yet through the lens of the wealthy areas, which although may exist in small pockets in the US, isn't all that common.

@@gemmeldrakes2758 Right after school you did your school work… OR, you could be like me and do your homework in the next class while ignoring the lecture or you do it on the way to school or on the lunch hour or get to school really early and do it in the library or while waiting for the bus or PSsshhh just copy someone else’s! Or just do it at home after you hangout with your friends at the park or the mall or to eat and then you would go home to your family and spend time in your room, you might catch up with family time if your parents wanted you to eat dinner together. And then on weekends, you pretty much do what you want if you don’t have family functions. School is more “fun” here… honestly, most of the time, even if you fail… they will still pass you in some areas. And yes we get excited about the dances! The parties… in the movies it is exaggerated, but, it’s close to pretty much how I experienced it…

Did you wear your letterman jacket 24/7?

Being part of two clubs that hate each other has always been an interesting experience.

Dude! I'm not american but in here debate people hates MUN people. Most people from debate are actually sporty and consider debate as another sport due to its competitive nature.

I graduated from highschool in 2021. It was a private school that I went to for virtually my entire life, and I can say that the type of jock portrayed in most television was almost non-existent, and the few that did exist were not well-liked.

When I was in high school (a couple decades ago), I was a nerd (and a theatre nerd to make it worse) at a pretty big high school and one of my best friends was president of the student body and a captain on the football team. Another good friend was a cheerleading captain. The stereotypes didn't always fit, but there were those that fell right into those stereotypical behaviors. Just, in my experience, you could always find people in each group that were good people.

here in the Philippines, we do dissect our frogs (theres also an option to dissect squids) as well for Science/General Biology, but we have to get them ourselves

Yeah, in my high school years, there was a Choir which was a large number of students singing on risers, but then there was also Show Choir, which was more dance routines/more contemporary music, which is what you would call the Glee Club

I’m from Minnesota, and we also dissected piglets instead of frogs.

I'm also from Iowa, I dissected one piglet, but only the accelerated class in the school got to do it. Everyone else did frogs.

we dissected a rabbit here in the NC. We also did frogs before but for the big final project of the final year, we got a bigger specimen

This seems like a very solid guess. Can't say I've experienced that culture too much while I was in high school, but I imagine it's probably pretty common in states like California

That one is a mishmash that im unfamiliar with. I've def met dorky metal heads that are programmers, but not ones that want to get (or seem like they are) jacked with muscles. Looks like dude is on the hellraiser puzzle box, and then wanting to kick some ass.

I think that's a pretty good hypothesis. I went for voc tech (tho, for heath occ) but there were also automotive/mech (which included some regular trade exp) and ag at that location, too. My regular school offered wood and metal shop, and CAD was actually taught by that man as well. He also ran robotics. A lot of his students were either muscled, nerdy, or hicks, or a weird combination of the three (as he seemed to be). This was 20+ years ago, too.

@@codya30 Do you mind if I ask when you graduated? (just a rough answer like "mid 90s" or whatever it actually is, you don't have to be specific if you prefer). I kinda wonder how the whole votech scene evolved.

@@Zundfolge As far as I know, my school had students attending vocation classes in the neighboring town for years before I attended them. I took both classes, 1 and 2 my junior and senior year. I graduated in 2006. All the voc classes had a required extracurricular component or two. In Health and Human Services, we had HOSA (Health Occupational Students of America) for both years, as well as onsite shadowing medical personnel the second year. I can't say for sure what the other classes consisted of. Culinary had their own restaurant in the school and the auto class had a garage and I know they learned welding and a few other things not strictly related to automobiles. I vaguely remember them needing to apprentice at a real shop or something similar as well, but I could be wrong. I loved my classes and what I was learning at the time but ultimately, it was a waste of time. I still have an affinity/interest for medicine but I wish I took either the business voc class or shop/auto. Or A/V, since I started in the event production industry in high school, before I even started the voc classes. I would have been much more educated in what ended up being my career for most of my adult life. I wish I had better directions as a kid but at the same time, and moreso, I really wish we'd stop pushing directions on children. Not just college degrees but trades, military, monetizing hobbies, everything.

The iron man movie was the beginning of the end of nerd culture, not the beginning lol

Yes, I've long wondered if this obsession with named cliques was just old-fashioned or if it was always just an exaggeration to begin with.

@@BlastinRope I think the Marvel movies kind of represent a death of nerd culture as an insular thing, but it has undoubtedly become a big part of mass culture. The idea of following deep lore for any nonreal setting has traditionally been considered childish, and adults who continue to do these things have been considered quite weird honestly, so this shift to having to have watched 10+ movies to know who the characters are in the new movie is a change that I have seen in my lifetime.

RIP me. I got a heart but my comment has an awkwardly phrased area where my train of thought went weird that I desperately want to edit lol

Yep I think Glee really exaggerates this in particular. It's set in a small town, but filmed in a large high school (~640 students) where all of the students know each other across grades and they all perpetuate cliques and popularity tropes. And the cheerleaders wear their skimpy uniforms every single day...

Yup, same at my schools in Alaska.

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I was originally going to have a graphic at that point but I couldn’t think of anything

@@JJMcCullough I think maybe the classic big text saying “child labor laws” probably would have worked ok, but honestly the way it ended up was more entertaining for me 😂 Keep up the great work JJ I make sure to watch all your videos as they come out, love from Australia 🇦🇺

Add into it the weird He Man references for some reason

@@JagerLang maybe them being macho manly men who still are living in the 80's?

Yeah, it's a shop teacher. I think that display on his chest is similar so that "check engine" diagnostic machine.

That would explain the screen with Fortran 77 code on it. (For reference, the "GOTO" statement in Fortran has been deprecated since 1990 for causing a lot of problems. Fortran is already an old programming language, and if you see the "GOTO" statement being used, it means both the code and the user are likely very old. Or you're a physicist like me and you're stuck with Fortran because it makes numbers go brr.)

@@jstrandquist Not like those NumPy/SciPy whippersnappers!

The history of Junior High didn’t come up much in my research but I feel like it’s a newer idea. At least where I lived, it was just being introduced when I was a teen.

@@JJMcCullough I think the mid to late '60s if I'm not mistaken

Same in Japanese high school cliches most of their conflict is a male main character gotten a harem and he needs to choice who’s his one of his life Or High school students gotten powers and will defeat the villaim At least these are Better than USA

In 2000s Portugal bullying was more about money extortion than teasing

I have noticed this also. I have encountered many people who may try to inhabit the “bully” stereotype, they are mostly laughed at or excluded for being mean or cruel. I think it’s less of there being a pervasive bullying culture, and more so shows tend to take things that somewhat exist (mean people) and take it to an extreme to create an obvious enemy for the main character to deal with.

Bullying really isn’t a thing here in the U.S. anymore. Sure you might get the occasional teasing or mean comments but I haven’t seen any prolonged harassment or physical intimidation.

I literally got picked up and put into a trash can by older students in the early 2000's. And that's just one example of bullying I experienced, but I figured it's the most outlandish, extreme example that people might consider to be cliche or unrealistic. Just because it didn't happen to you didn't mean it wasn't happening. Obviously not everyone got bullied. Not everyone was the small, quiet kid that got picked on.

This is my inclination, too. I think the playing card alludes to tracking weight lifting stats. We also had weight lifting classes at all three of our high schools.

definitely, it's a big thing in the jock groups at my school

the tech references are probably alluding to how these guys are always punching numbers into myfitnesspal or other trackers/spreadsheets and in general lifters tend to be more stereotypically dorky than "jock" propers.

It also has refrences to computer science and hacking competitions though. Kinda stumped me

It’s a reference to the recent growth of a sub group of jocks who are not just advanced at sports, but also really good at/really interested in math, science, and technology. It’s an interesting mix for someone to be because for a long long time, the geeks and nerds did not get along with jocks and you couldn’t be both at once. (At least, it was uncommon to be both at once.)I would call them tech jocks or stem jocks. You can see he’s holding a barbell which has glyphs (a visual joke about computer code being hard to understand) on it. He’s advancing upwards over these buildings with circuits on them, which seems to me like a reference to how these kids who are good at both sports and STEM tend to get really good grades and favoritism in school because they are favorites of both coaches, students, and teachers. Some people are also saying it has to do with Hackathons (coding competitions) which makes sense because he’s holding a trophy, and I think hackathons give trophies to the winning hacking team.

Good, because it sounds like a awfully authoritarian way to raise your kid.

Thank you for saying this!

@@KarlSnarks it’s a great way

@@user-hl6ls8sv4t Nah, it creates people who might have success in the rat race, but feel crippled by the pressure to perform, and follow the path set out for them. I'd rather have people that think creatively, question all authority, feel free to follow their own interest, and cooperate with others as equals.

@@KarlSnarks lol

I was not “in” jrotc, but all through high school I was a part of the varsity rifle team that they organized. The team was about 50% jrotc and 50% general population when I was there and the command sergeant major and colonel were lovely to everyone. It was an incredibly interesting subgroup in high school with their own winter dance and award ceremonies at the end of the year.

My high school had one, Air Force unit. We were definitely the minority and categorized as the "weird" kids since we did questionable things. But when we needed to be serious, we will pull through. I had more fun cheering my JROTC peers at their sport tournaments than my school games.

My school had ROTC. They were very proudly racist and self proclaimed themselves the Rot-C N***s(word that rhymes with Rot-C and in reference to national socialism. They were very interestingly non homophobic and would defend (with violence) any kid getting picked on. Often led to recruitment. Was bizarre.

I’m glad that someone noticed the kid in the background of the Spider-Man movie. I re-watched it recently and paused at that moment. I don’t remember why but maybe it’s just some nostalgia. I do that if there’s an actual service member in a movie though too. Because I like to see how accurate their ribbon racks are to their age, branch of service, and established lore. 😂. I once caught a young Canadian officer in a show that I was watching (modern day setting) having American service ribbons from Vietnam on. Lmao. Always get a good laugh out of those kind anachronisms.

My county has a arts focused High School that doesn't have one but previously did but was shut down for being bad and we are not a big Football talent base to begin with.

I was surprised, too, that it was “only” 70%, but a lot of high schools in big cities do not have access (and/or the budget) to the field/equipment necessary for running a football program. In NYC, for example, how many high schools have football teams? Nowhere near the 70% mark. 😎

@@Marylandbrony Ugh we live in a pretty " uppity" town/tri-city area, so unfortunately there is an (alleged) pay-to-play/be on the higher ups' good side/know the right people aura to be able to play. Almost like a school district(s) based classist society.

I meant to add that we also have a very arts-based program(s) in our districts, which I was part of. I played Violin for 10 years, I also played Volleyball and was a cheerleader - only 1 year each. I don't think I was "cool enough" for the sports teams and my family definitely did not suck up to any sports directors lol.

There actually is a robotics club card already so I don’t think it’s that.

I wonder whether it alludes to fantasy RPGs in some way? Possibly online ones?

The intersection of these two could also be Lego Robotics

Yea, I've never heard of a school giving out yearbooks for free. They usually were pretty steeply priced as a matter of fact.

@David Silva why would anyone want 4 yearbooks??

@@kilrati good fire starter and nutritious too

Men I’m so glad I was born in balkans, we also have a sort of SAT but its not nearly as hard like you guys have it. I would literally die there no joke

I went to Catholic School in Alberta and our Bio 20 class cut apart a pig fetus. I don't know where Reverend who taught biology got the pig fetuses from...

I had to take both, but both are being phased out nowadays.

ACT has more of a focus on science, SAT has more of a focus on English

Thanks so much!!

My school had lockers but no one(I knew) used them. Mainly because they were sometimes so far away from each class and we didn’t have five minutes to make a pit stop at our lockers especially if it was on the other completely different side of the school from where your next class was

yea the west coast is wierd like that you guys have open schools but in arizona idaho utah colorado have the stereotypical highschool

We had them in all our district schools in the Los Angeles area until the 90s, when they were slowly replaced by just having a second set of textbooks in class, so students didn't have to wreck their backs carrying 5 books around all week.

We had lockers lining the halls in high school, and we were assigned them and they were essential and used by every student. My HS was in Minnesota and I attended around 10 years ago.

It might be a regional thing. We had ten minute breaks between each class , so if we needed something from our locker we could just go get it during those breaks. We called the breaks “passing times”.

**sighs** **grabs wallet**

Wait, did they do university already, are they skipping it for HS or is that one a mixed expansion?

@Harris H goddamit. *Reinstalls Origin* *Pulls out wallet* Thanks for the info though

The Sims 4 is STILL getting expansion packs?

@@BinglesP and they still all cost forty dollars lol. I think to buy every expansion pack is like eight hundred dollars so it’s definitely one of those situations where you’re morally in the right pirating it for everything it has

I'm 56 years old. You just described my school days. We had all those items more than 40 years ago. 😂😂

@@russbear31 All that still exists at my school. Maybe it's because it's too expensive to replace idk

you forgot lockers my school doesn't have some of these we just do everything on our laptop

only unidesks, hand-crankers and backpacks are true and those arthritis givers are on their way out.

WHATS EVEN WORSE WAS THESE SHITTY PAPER YEARBOOKS THAT STILL COST 50-80 DOLLARS