I'm pretty sure it was because of the existence of Honkai Impact's Alien space manga, with some panels pointing out that he found out about another Himeko, who was alive, unlike Hi3's Himeko, who died to honkai radiation trying to neutralize Kiana. Although that was also caused by the fact that the Sky people targeted her and affected her physical condition. According to some people on the internet, hsr's Himeko is also targeted by the sky people. So this time, Welt made sure that she isn't also going to be attacked by the sky people. This was the main reason why he was in the astral express in the first place.
@hanging_with_my_normies916 theres 2 welts, welt joyce gave the herrscher core to his successor welt yang/joachim . welt joyce is dead but he appears in the splashart for welt yang
@@ussinussinongawd516 And then you realize that GGZ also has a Herrscher of Reason only named as Welt and is also the Leader of Anti-Entropy but is in cahoots with Otto Apocalypse and said Welt is the Pope Equivalent of the Schicksal Religion...
It’s so funny how Welt went through all this stuff and now he’s shepherding March and the Trailblazer around like they’re his rambunctious young children
I still hope Bronya and this Welt met up somewhere, maybe in an event. I want to see Welt's reaction and some stumbles thinking he was talking to the Bronya in HI3.
@@ElemXCR honestly nah, Welt's a vet, it would be more than a little demeaning in reality to have him stumble even with the advanced knowledge and experience in samefaces. It would make more sense to give him a Himeko moment and just have good advice/compliment for Bronya Rand rather than push Hi3 onto her by association.
Now I want to see a scene like: Luocha: "so, this person is the reason why you were afraid of me ?" [Points at Void Archives] Welt: "well, yes but..." Void: "if you think I'm bad, you can thank your aeons you never met the guy I was made after"
Another mention, this is how Welt boarded onto the Astral Express, once his spaceship ran out of fuel and he was with his unknown companion and crash landed on a barren desert planet named Salsotto (in HSR universe) which the Astral Express came tasked by Herta, to order to obtain Cadence Glass which can be found on Salsotto, and then Himeko and Pom-Pom found Welt on the planet. Edit: I had a minor mistake, actually welt did not crash land on the planet but was in fact somewhere near the planet
Small correction. Bronya inherited the core from Yang but was never made the Soverign of AE. Welt is and has always been in charge of AE all the way after Joyce. There is nothing to support that being the leader of AE entails inherting the core of reason.
@@SiliconOneFour No worries. If you think about it logically as well it is highly doubtful members of AE would make or let an inexperienced kid like Bronya take on duties of an entire organization. You have to take into account one of the reasons Yang became the leader of AE in the 1st place was not only because he directly inherited Joyce's core but also shared his ideals and also the fact that Joyce didn't survive. If Joyce was still alive it is highly likely that he would be in charge of AE at its founding and still would be up to this point.
Well, I did just do the sea of quanta stuff, and at the end, when Bronya wakes up after Seele saves them, Welt does intend for her to actually become the soverign of AE (or at least the leader or whatever) Bronya doesn't accept right away and just says she'll consider it. As for being the HoReason Idk. I haven't got far enough to confirm anything.
Another correction in your correction: Welt Yang was the only Soveriegn of Anti Entropy ever. Joyce had died before Schicksal NA officially defected and formed AE, Joachim was disguising himself as Welt Joyce to not let slip to Otto that he was dead and they were vulnerable. It was only in Second Eruption when Welt Yang appeared as himself, throwing even Otto for a loop.
From what I recall from HI3rd's A Post Honkai Odessey 2(APHO), Teresa Apocalypse (Otto's granddaughter) is managing both Shicksal and Anti Entrophy on Welt's behalf since Welt established Studio Reason (Anime and gaming company I think) and was focused more on the studio right before the events of Alien space manga.
whoever the story director of the Honkai series is, you bro know how to make and connect stories and actually do the Universal Connection theory justice
"I used to believe that kindness is the best gift a civilization can give, and I still do. Just because I once misplaced my kindness, doesn't mean that I should turn away from it and bury it for good." - Welt Yang, Honkai Impact 3rd: Alien Space
going into hsr i knew very little about hi3, i had played through the first chapter of the game but not much more, but pulling welt from the gacha got me so into learning about all the honkai lore and now im obsessed with both games :P
I was the same(not knowing about HI3 when I stared Star Rail) but I did know that when I started I wanted Welt and/or Clara. I now have every standard 5 star character except them(and Yanqing)
Star of eden was broken. All star of edens that Joachim and bronya use is a replica formed using herrscher of reason power. In fact, the true herrscher of reason has the capacity to create a divine key that is not inferior to the real one.
It was nearly broken, but Tesla and Einstein repaired it but it was not as good as it used to be so they implement it into one of Bronya's Project Bunny canons.
I played honkai impact and finished it before star rail you don’t know how I screamed when I saw welt on screen I’m so happy he is the welt from hi3 I re rolled my account so many times to get him
“Nah just kidding” LMAO!! I actually chuckled a little 😆 I’m literally so in love with this guy lmao, he’s also my favorite character. Bro’s majestic in a way I’ve never seen 😹😭💛
I just have to point out how the "multiverse" of HoYo feels consistent with all their games. And all they had to do is to have a consistent writing team that talks with each other so their ideas are synchronized through the games. Certain big movie studio could learn a thing or two from it.
Bro when i looked at him, i knew he had a cool backstory, man welt is sooo cool, i wish to investigate welt more cuz i like his backstory, man i can't wait, this is rly interesting, wish this was a anime fr fr
Welt's 5 star lightcone's description also depicts welt inheriting the herrscher core from joyce!! I was so excited to see the explanation in the video because reading it made me so curious :)
Always thought it was Otto himself in Welt's HSR art 😭Glad to see it explained though Also loved Welt due to seeming like he came from the H13 universe (mainly cuz I played HI3 a bit myself), so I'm super happy to see his entire lore explained (cuz ngl w/ ONLY playing HI3, none of the lore and stuff made sense to me
I mean, no. He simply inherited the power of one protagonist, fought alongside another, then passed his power on to the next, and guided the 3 main protags through their battle.
amazing video, amazing character, thank you! I just finished reading the Alien Space manga and was left a bit confused as I was missing quite some more lore of hi3, this video helped me tie everything together :)
There is a hole in story in between year 2018 and year 2032 where Star Rail plot begins. Part 2 of Hi3 is 2018-2028 and its about Mars and in 2028 Sky People invade and Post Honkai Oddysey begins, we havent seen it yet to finish, waiting for part 3 which should come in next 2 years, probably 2025
Not just that, in hi3 Welt and Carole go onboard the “Astral Express” (it’s the previous era 2nd divine key Cosmic Juggernaut), but in hsr Himeko finds the Astral Express in a bad shape after Akivili was no more, so there’s a huge gap
This is the EXACT video I've been looking for! Couldn't find anyone who could provide a straight forward explanation for Welt's presence in Star Rail, thank you!!
keep up that great theory content! I really wanna see you take a deeper look into Belobog's architects, as in the main story there's not many details about them. Also A Dan Heng story analysis would be nice, but it would probably take a few more updates to the Luofu main story
the part when welt gave bronya the core of reason is a the Hi3 route in order to use it against HoD, since welt didnt choose to marry tesla and adapt a child. The part when welt choose to marry tesla and adapt a child is during in APHO route (a what if story/spinoff to Hi3) since adam and his team had a story mission to save joyce and found out that welt wasnt there but in somewhere faraway(HSR)
I love HI3's story to death but I'll be the first to point out its tendency to drop absolutely massive walls of text and philosophical technobabble at times. It really could use a better system for exposition sections.
Oh gods i remember playing honkai impact 3 for the first time in 2022 and was SOO in love with welt and his lore and then i found out he'll be playable in hsr 😭😭 man i was so happy ive been a hardcore fan of his since his npc days
luocha reminded him of Otto and Void Archive Welt was traveling with Joyce but Void archive comes on Board and Separates them ,Joyce ended up in Apho/real Timeline Hi3(Future) and Welt and Void archive ended up in Star rail ,astral express to be exact ,its kinda complicated. U would have to also play hi3 Apho to get some Clarification
Two corrections. 1. Bronya does not receive the Star of Eden from Welt. Einstein lent it to her for the battle against HoV. When she uses it later on, Bronya, like the previous Herrschers of Reason, uses the Authority of Reason to recreate a copy of the 9th key, rather than using the original. 2. Void Archives didn't actually need the powers of the Herrscher of Reason, but rather the powers of the Herrscher of Earth/Stars. He needed the 9th Herrscher's gravity power. The trick is that, due to using the 9th key for so long, Welt is able to summon a copy of it using the residual powers left over from his time as the Herrscher of Reason, which allows him. Joey also can, due to being a clone of Welt Joyce, who quite literally encoded the formula of the 9th key into his dna(hence why his clones, while unable to use the Authority of Reason, do have a limited ability to wield the Authority of Gravity.) If it was the 1st herrscher powers he needed, Void Archives would have no problem, as he is the Divine key of Reason. But since he lacked data on the 9th key, he needed someone who could use it.
I really like the story of welt and i'm glad that he was my first 5 star who is now E3 thanks to my 50/50 "loss" on Archeron, they both have some interesting conversations too cuz somehow Acheron is Raiden Mei from Honkai 3rd i guess and kinda wanna get into Honkai Impact 3rd which i currently have no time for... ^^
It do be like this sometimes when Welt has to be playable in another game and not his original game, since the CN fanbase of Honkai Impact 3rd has legit formed plans to harm the devs of that game over just single instant levels when we get to play as a male character or the fact the CN fanbase got a whole anniversary event for the NA server cancelled since it was advertised with a MMD of the girls in bunnysuits. . . . and then get like 3,000 crystals given to them as apologies for hoyoverse for ever thinking about doing an NA anniversary event while the actual NA players got... literally nothing. That aside, nice to see someone whose covering these games actually cover some of Welt's importance in the game HI3rd itself considering most people just... skip that entirely and only do the manga, he's not too prominently featured in it beyond the Herrscher of Domination Story Arc and A Post Honkai Odyssey 2 but its nice to see the a Honkai character's history actually covered in-depth (even if its mostly spurred on by Star Rail), honestly only other hoyo channel I recall doing that is Homu Labs.
Well you can't change a game that was only-waifu for 5 years adding playable man, the OGs players played the game because it was a waifu game, even the founders said that they wanted to make games with cute girls
10:33 if I'm not mistaken the Star of Eden was 'loaned' to Bronya by Einstein during the Battle of Schicksal in chapter 9. What Bronya recovered from the Sea of Quanta by passing Joachim's trials was the Core of Reason itself. Making her the third Herrscher of Reason.
I mever fucking noticed the splash art,I recently started playing HI3 and I got so fucking confused when I was doing the sea of quanta chapter, God I just can't wait til we get to travel to earth in HSR
As a German I love the way herscher is spoken in englisch it sounds so cool and a bit funny :) Same with Schicksal Great video i just pulled welt and i like this guy so much so i wanted too know more about him
Honestly, you can play HI3 but most of what Welt did was in the mangas so if he's the reason you'll play, it's kind of not needed? - they honestly wrecked themselves when they said that there would never be a retainable playable male valkyrie in HI3. Once you get into about Chapter 7 of Honkai Impact 3rd the story is fully set up and starts to flow. And please do not kid yourself and say you won't feel emotions or shed tears because I full on call it Honcry Impact. They steal your tears from you and break you completely - especially where something has to do with a bonds or relationships (found family, romantic bonds, friendship bonds, etc.) HoYo has no issue taking the bonds most precious to you as a valkyrie and shattering them into in a million tiny pieces and watching you weep. When you do play, I look forward to hearing what you think of my favourite character Elysia 🥺
From here it sound like void archives and and Welt are lkke buddies or working together. What happened that heis afraid or beware of void archives, is it "just" who void is modeled after being Otto or am i missing something dont get the part where void is evil and needs to be eliminaged but then goes through a portal together to Star Rail
After the events of Main story of Honkai impact 3rd. Welt open up an animation studio where he work animated projects to fund in their company since you know Honkai now been repressed and the earth starting to heal but that doesn't mean the threat of honkai or other hostile species doesn't disappear.
@@rubiepie more correctly before otto reaveal to all world what the Honkai it is, most of the fund for AE came from their animator studio who create a famous anime named Arahato (who """"casually" remeber Neon Genesis Evangelion). After The end with bronya Welt founded Reason Studio; who develope game and continue the Arahato anime series
The Final Chapter (17) of Alien Space is when they walk into the portal, and Chapter 12 of Alien Space is when Welt sees the Star Rail version of Himeko!
So i gone through some of the voice lines in the info about some characters and i think march mentions another friend of welt was with him when the astral Express come and pick him up so the other guy is void archive?
I never really understood the lore behind the Post-Houkai Odyssey in HI3. What about Welt in that? I played a fair amount of HI3 but at some point the lore just got lost on me.
Does welt still have his core in hsr?? I'm a little confused since VA implied in alien space that he still has it and iirc Bronya gave back the Core of Reason to Welt in APHO timeline?
I don't think he still has the core, but something that I did miss in this video is that his Cane in Star Rail is made from the Star of Eden. So he still has some of his powers, but not all of them and they're not as powerful as they once were.
He does(probably( in the lightcone 'In The Name of The World' the description is literally: "Welt...?" "It's a... great name, right?" "Then..." "From now on, you are Welt." "This Herrscher core... and the mission to protect the world..." "I'll leave them to you, Welt."
@@abyssy182 Lightcones are made from memories in HSR (might be wrong, do correct me if I am) so it's probably just his memories from when he inherited the core (and name) I think in either APHO or APHO2 I believe it's mentioned somewhere that Bronya had returned the core to him (since she became the Herrscher of Truth I think)
@@abyssal_dreams no, it is not. Besides, that is impossible, as the Herrscher of Truth was done by Bronya fusing the thousands of mind fragments with her own mind, under her control. It permanently altered the nature of the core, and Welt Yang could barely endure the Reason core. The Truth core would kill him. That, and due to the fusion of the minds, giving it away would be..... difficult.
