What Happened To Welt? | Honkai: Star Rail 

Welt suffers from Star Rail's main issue, which is turn limits. The two main forms of endgame, MoC and Pure Fiction, put the player on a clock, meaning you are rewarded for speeding yourself up rather than slowing the game down or tanking up. There isn't a reason to have more defenses than the bare minimum.

You don't understand the weight behind this power.. *survive or be destroyed, there is no other choice*

He was my first standard 5* and I love combining his Slow and Imprisonment with Ruan Mei's Weakness Break Delay from her field. I think as long as Welt gets more units that complement him and he complements in turn, such as with that duo, he'll stay relevant and pretty damn satisfying to play imo

Welt is mad underrated and I will stand by that. he has insane potential

I like that this is NOT a why no one plays

Welt was my first 5 star and is still relevant on my team and in my heart Edit: Woah! 420 likes!? Guessing everyone who liked has welt as one of their first 5 stars. I got his LC and him being E1. Guess fate binds me to Welt (or mb lore implications…)

Even having built Welt for Dr. Ratio, it still feels weird that he has certain parts of his kit that make him look more like a DPS (his Talent, E1, and E6) than a Nihility unit. IMO units crossing Paths is fine, but Welt would probably be better off being a dedicated debuffer than trying to dabble with the DPS side of things. I still use him though alongside Ratio, especially in fights where there are multiple enemies. You can basically blanket apply debuffs on all of them without have to worry about the chance for triggering Ratio's follow-up attack as much because they would likely start with 80% already (equipped with Resolution) even without Ratio's Effect Res debuff application.

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Acheron and her kit will give Welt chance to shine again!

My glorious king Welt has been amazing in my Ratio team.

i literally use him in every team always. got him day 1, and his lightcone day 2. He is easily one of my fav characterss and i remember how i looked at the standard banner 5 stars and was like "All cool but this guy, which has a german name, thats the guy i wanna pull".

I think what need welt is not a buff, I think what he need is a dedicated carry for spam freeze/delay, like a unit that inflict damage based on how much the enemy turn is delayed , that way he could have a niche on his own

Hello Vars. A bit off-topic but I’d like an in-depth analysis and thoughts on the simulated universe DLC (Swarm disaster and Gold and Gears). Despite the wacky chaos it brings, I’ve always felt there’s something missing in its structure or hidden potential. I’d honestly love to hear your thoughts and other commenters whether it is perfect as it is or it could do better.

Welt is the Mona of Star Rail

I think down the road there’s room for relics that enhance the break of multi-instance attacks (such as bounce) making them just *shred* if there’s only one enemy. The current imaginary relic that boosts against imprisoned enemies is also kinda spicy and I can see a support character in the future that amplifies imprisonment and entanglement, since those elemental debuffs have gotten a lot less love compared to dots and freeze

I named my account after him. I then got E3 Himeko, then E2 Clara, no other standard character in between. I will still be getting my first Welt in the 5 star selector about 50 more standard pulls later. And i plan to make him dps even if i dont have the eidolons needed. He is so cool and theres no changing my mind.

welt is still definitely a good unit with TONS of potential. for starters, being not only on the express crew but also being a character directly from hi3, it's very possible that he'll get a new unit, similarly to dan heng. also, both him and dan heng's 4 star innately deal extra damage to slowed enemies. if a more powerful dps unit like that was released, welt would make it into that "niche support" slot with topaz and black swan

Welt is awesome on any team where you use the bandit set like DHIL and Ratio. You can keep enemies imprisoned nearly 100% of the time which makes the wastelander set much more viable because you don't have to manage Imaginary break to use it. Its especially devestating with his Talent which makes every enemy wave spawn imprisoned meaning the first attack of every wave is at full power making quick clears nice and easy with DHIL and Ratio. Plus since March is my solo sustain with Gepards LC I can keep interupting the enemies with their ults nonstop and it helps simce March isn't the best solo sustain on her own and I don't want to replace her or any express crew member untill her 5 star form drops in the future

I think that Welt is amazing for any free to play player as he is always available to pull and building him in not really a waste since he is compitent in multiple roles and fits in with most teams

I use this guy as a backup when I need silver wolf to apply a weakness to another team but need debuffs for Ratio. He’s gotten even better since I pulled an eidolon for him.

I don't like using him in MoC or Pure Fiction but I like to use him in Simulated Universe and other challenges because he just makes everything so much safer. So many times, his ult saved my team from certain death and allowed me to heal up and come back into a fight.

I ginuinely couldn't have beaten conundrum without him. Welt plus raun mei on the hunt path simi-uni is just so nutty, they never get a turn and when they eventually do, half of their dmg doesn't go out because welt ult disrupts their second (and sometimes, third) turn. It's literally free survivability

vars, always love your content, your scripts and voice its such a joy to hear while i do my stuff, keep it up!

Ice isnt dot. ...

I love the amount of logic and research put into these videos, i know he wont be out/tested for a while but id LOVE to see an Aventurine vs. Fu Xuan video bc the twitter discourse is already insane

I do think it's really funny that you did a why no one plays for Himeko before she became amazing for Pure Fiction, and now released a similar concept (even if not quite the same) for Welt when he's anticipated to be really strong with Acheron in the upcoming patch. Not to say you're wrong (as someone with E3S1 Welt unfortunately), but I hope he fairs as well as Himeko did after your video

people forget that Cacolia, Natasha and kafka are HI3 characters. i wanna meet Fu Hua and since welt came into this world does that mean that Joachim is also in this universe?

A random idea came for a preservation unit idea when he mentioned Welt being like a preservation: a preservation unit that to defend the team they debuff the enemy damage a lot, to make this actually work the unit does need to debuff their attack and dmg a lot to be at the level of the other preservation units and also it needs to consistently reapply the debuff, but it would be a cool idea. For balancing it would actually be better if it's completely single target but the dmg reduction is insanely a lot, so a preservation unit more suited for single target bosses, which is right now not many but it would be cool.

The problem imo is that his slow component, while equivalent to party wide speed isnt when you only have so many turns to deal damage like in moc, speed does. But i feel like that is a design flaw of moc rather. Moc could instead be defined by how many times enemies are allowed to act and then he would provide the equivalent value that he provides with slow instead of speed.

I think you got through most of it really well, though I will say that as long as there is characters want imprison whether through wastelander or something in their kit and with more whole team buffers becoming available he will still have market share for supplying that with his good personal damage as a kind of sub DPS

The biggest help Welt has given me other than being an imaginary DPS since 1.0 is his on demand imprison. That helped a lot in countering the new "Something Unto Death" Sunset and Nightfall in the new MoC 12 And when more unstoppable skills were added to the enemy, Welt will always be there to say No U

The thing about welt is that although his dmg buffs may be low relative to most harmony units you have to take his own damage into account often times his damage plus the main dps damage equals out to whatever it would be had the dps been just buffed by a harmony character

I use both Welt and Himeko! Yes, there are other units I may use instead of Welt, but he was the first unit I ever wanted and I still built him all the way up in case I ever need him again.

I got Welt while pulling for Ruan Mei, and now I have him at E1S2. I was happy I lost the 50/50 to him because I thought he would've been great in a Dr. Ratio team (don't worry, I still got Ruan Mei in the end), but now I intend to build him as a Silver Wolf-esque sub-DPS/debuffer for my Acheron team, as I think his Imprisonment application can massively help with Acheron's Ult rotation not just by giving her stacks for her Ult, but also by giving the team more windows to apply debuffs, creating basically a snowball effect of sorts.

He's in the studio working on an album rn. He also had movies to work in as well. 8 Mile was my favorite movie he was in

Welt is one of my favorite characters from HI3 and holds a special place in my heart, due to reading the Anti-Entropy Visual novels and the second eruption manga before I started playing HI3 a few years ago. I was ecstatic when I heard that he was going to be playable in HSR. I ended up getting him about 3 weeks into playing HSR, and he has been my main ever since. Currently have him at e2 r2, and am hoping that I will be able to e6 r5 him. I don’t think I will ever take Welt (and Himeko as well) off of my team. Anyways, kind of off topic, but here’s to hoping that we get a playable younger Welt Yang, and also a playable expy of Welt Joyce

i started playing the game just after Christmas last year (eq 5 now) and welt was the character i pulled from the rookie banner. at first i was disappointed but then i realized his kit early on is a god send. that imprison on demand really helped since i didnt have a healer. I kinda felt like a i have main'd welt for most content simply because of the imprison to interrupt bosses bonus's turns was reallly good. not to mention that his bounce on a single target was really strong

I still use him quite a bit. With dr ratio now for example with that def reduction cone he is pretty good support and sub dps.

He was I believe my 2nd 5 star, 1st being Dan Heng IL, and I used them together to clear Swarm Disaster, but the moment I got Tingyun, Welt was benched, just like you said. Still, I am planning on using him with Ratio, once I finally get to build him. I'll make them a duo dps team, it will be fun.

Welt is the only imaginary support that helps Dr. Ratio and DHIL use Watelander properly, that's enough

he was my 2nd 5 star. I love his kit but like you said, i always end up using pela+ruan mei/silver wolf/bronya. i'm going to try fitting him with Acheron on my main account and see how he does.

Fun story I was struggling with Meis story quest because of the boss. I mean i struggled so hard that ended up ignoring it until I passed the last equilibrium. Which made it harder but i also got welt in the standard banner and ran Fu Xuan, Dr. R, Welt, and Mei and beat it by the skin of my teeth However Welt played a huge role and he did again against Sam who i was able to beat (Almost lost again) on the first try. I adore this mans contribution

background ost damn near blew out my back when i heard it holy shit the nostalgia

I levelled him and his LC that I recently got now, for my Acheron team, who needs people who do a lot of debuffs. Will see how it goes - my team is Acheron, Gallagher, Welt, Pela!

can't imagine the nihility starting off from welt with his aoe slows and "great" damage, and now acheron with just full on dps with just some debuffs as bonus to her damage

I love welt. I started the game for him. Got him on beginner and his lc on standard and I'm saving to s5 it

What I want from HSR and rewards players that consistently play and would help these kinds of character is increasing the moc and pure fiction lineups to have 3 chambers so u would have to build 3 teams. I know it’s not good for newer guys players but end game is end game and i think it be a cool way to make MOC and pf a bit more challenging by having to build more teams and thus use more of characters that u have built along the way.

Like how Pf gave erudition a place to shine there could be another game mode that wants you to survive as long as possible Using the point system you could have a mode where every cycle passed gives you more score

I love him and have him fully built just cause I have him at e3. I think if you can get lucky enough to get his e1 then his damage viability goes way up, but that does require getting a standard character twice which is not an easy feat.

welt is currently useful for the meme boss, the new set also gave him quite a few of the stats he needed, and he does pair welt with dr. ratio and acheron. hes a decent pick for clearing moc because he provides debuffs while also doing a fair bit of dmg.

Damn, first 15 seconds of the video and I gotta admit your point is based af (although she's only my second best, first one being Mei lmao, can't wait for Acheron release)

It would be nice to see some older/less used characters eventually get a fourth major trace, that is only available when the character reaches lv80. That would probably be the most 'fair' sounding way to buff already-released characters

i have an e3 welt just because he is the only 5 star i ever get on off-pity or on the standard banner, and now im just coping by telling myself that he will always be a good character

Even though I got Imbibitor before losing to Welt while chasing Ruan Mei, I've been slotting him into Simulated Universe parties, similarly as Clara's been, when I'm just looking to auto-pilot ones I've cleared already. Not having to worry about my party getting ganged up on out of nowhere is a relief, and he's no slouch when clearing story content, either~

I absolutely love him, got both him and his 5 star light cone. i bring him habitually to most fights. he is a good carry and part of what i consider to be a nigh unkillable team.

Whoa funny how I just got him and you make a video the day after

I only started a week ago, I went into the game because of friends talking it up plus sparkle trailer Out of the standard 5 stars welt (based off looks and his abilities, not any meta knowledge) was my top pick for what I wanted out of the 50pulls banner, bronya being tied because of meta knowledge from friends saying shes goated. Anyways time to watch the video (even if he isnt the best I still hope to get welt from standard banner eventually, or if I lose a 50/50 to him sometime)

Welt did carry me though the first part of the game… he was actually the 5 star that I got in the beginner banner. I only had at that time Jing Yuan, Natasha and March 7 as my main units and that extra turn saved my bacon multiple times.

when I first pulled him, I wasn't happy but sure enough Welt carried me through the early game like a G

Welt was my first 5-star that I got from the Starter banner. Felt fitting storywise too, since I didn't do any pulls until after I finished the Belobog story, meaning swapping my Team's Dan Heng for Welt felt semi-fitting from a story perspective. And getting to use him was decent, even if he did feel a bit lacking in Defense (chalk it up to not putting good enough Relics on him, maybe)

Welt is the bro that helped me murder the big bug

This is my one character out of both genshin and hsr that I will say “omg no he’s so good!” For one of your videos haha, i just love welt and he is literally my strongest/best built character in the game, and I have him built as a DPS since he doesn’t do DoT. I do hope we get more stuff where welt is the best option so I can keep flexing him

He carried me through MOC as a dps but now he's the perfect duo with Dr.Ratio since i love double dps team

My first main bro, I still remember when I put him on the support slot and gained some money since he was the only imaginary at the time. I almost always brought him to SU to do the Kafka boss battle

I think we didnt talk enough about mono teams in this game because even if there is no immediate benefit, there are still ways to use that and get good results for imaginary I think a good example would be: Luocha(sustainer), Yukong, Welt, Dr.Ratio

He's my first 5 star and since I played HI3 I was pretty pleased. I unfortunately never really managed to fit him in my Nihility teams anymore in favor of other characters :(

he was my first five star and carried me through the luofu. using his ultimate to interrupt and completely halt attacks is the *only* reason i was able to defeat phantylia. i have and use dhil all the time but i still love welt all the same. he could see a rise in usage with more characters that benefit from debuffs, or with a harmony character that buffs damage when a debuff is applied. i think we would need a new type of endgame content that would benefit more from pushing enemies back, because right now speeding your team up is always better. i also happen to love his personality and story, and wish that his power in-game was more fitting for his lore as one of if not the most powerful person in hsr

Welt is my solution for most unit with multiple action in sequence, usually using his ulti after first enemy action, it cause all next action of them been deny to continue.

He's fine. Still a good unit with solid dmg and the best standard 5 star eidolons after Bronya. Works very well with Ruan Mei too

He is the only standard character I don't have and I have E5 Bailu. I want him soo bad. But I chose Gepard at the time since I really needed a sustainer.

His kit sure has it's problems but he works very well in my Dr. Ratio team. I also think he will probably be great with Acheron.

I haven't picked my Standart Character that you get for 300 Pulls on Standart Banner yet and I was mostly debating between Himeko and Welt. Glad I watched this Video, cause now I'll just delay my decision even more lol I already got E1 Bronya, Clara and Bailu. Definitely don't need Yanqing and even tho Gepard was who I was planning to go for a while ago, I don't think I rly need him anymore, since I have Fu Xuan and more Preservation will come out. So yea, just between Himeko (mostly for Pure Fiction) and Welt (which I thought would be more general, but honestly he like this video says, there is no point where he is the best), so I'm not sure what to do except wait 🤔

Welt was my first 5star, and somehow he’s managed to pity break me multiple times (have him e5s1) I still use him with Dr. Ratio and Im happy that I have him well invested. Plus I love imaginary

This video is rather premature. My dreams tell me acheron will love being paired with welt. So welt is about to get a revival in usage.

It's a good thing I havent played Starrail in forever, Just hopped in for Ratio, and got Welt as my first and only five star (besides free Ratio) so he is still extremely useful to me!

another buff he could get indirectly is a nihility LC or iitem set that heals the party on inflicting debuffs so that he can slot even further into the preservation slot

WELL WELL WELT! How the tables have turned.

I love my welt as a sustain/subdps/debuffer. He’s got imag set with 40/130 cr/cdmg 150 spd on er rope and penacony set. He can ult every 2-3 turns and pair with Ruan Mei and the enemy is never getting turns.

Should be noted Welt also stops aurumaton gatekeepers from gaining sanction mode. Against bosses, if black hole is used after the bosses first action, it skips their second bonus action, which is incredible against certain characters. It keeps Bronya from dispelling DOT/debuff off Cocolia, or Gepard from casting his shield, etc. There's just no endgame that needs him right now, but he'll undoubtedly skyrocket in usability. Events like Fyxestroll Garden and Scentventure show just how crazy he can be in the right content. I predict that Scentventure will be a new gamemode like MOC and PF, akin to how Tales of the Fantastic turned into Pure Fiction at an almost 1 to 1 conversion with barely any changes.

I think if in the future there is a content that just require you to survive a maximum of turn, welt might be able to shine.

Really wish you talked about his role in 0 sustain teams, and rather current issue of him wanting to skill every turn making that archetype difficult to pull off consistently. Sparkle could potentially change this and allow for teams with 0 sustain and more damage overall.

Welt, I think, will be making a resurgence soon thanks to Acheron. Acheron wants to be on a team with two other nihility units, and we now have another relic set that benefits character fighting enemies with different types of debuffs. Given that we also have Dr. Ratio benefiting from "fighting enemies who are debuffed", I think we may be seeing a new team archetype that could be built around units like Welt, Pela, and/or Silver Wolf to buff certain DPSs.

We definitely need a big single target raid boss survival like mode similar to Epic sevens rift where you try to stack up as many points as possible, that will help characters like welt and the hunt to shine more

since Hi3rd has the divine key mechanique I'm actually pretty hopefull we will get a similar system in Hsr even tho I don't know how they will explain it lore wise since star of eden (and the express? kinda) is the only divine key present in the story

Being able to "How about NO" Bosses' extra turns with his ultimate is always SOOO satisfying. For example, Monkey always pounds his chest first, then pounces. And you can completely negate his attack. There's also Gepard summoning his barrier, Kafka bombing you... Welt can deny them all.

YOOOOOO who made the music for the outro?! That temporal tower remix goes hard af

I use him with Dr.Ratio to add debuffs and Dr.Ratio and welt have a good synergy together Dr.Ratio pela silver wolf welt is my team and in MoC i use a preservation character or abundance plus welt has a special place in my heart

If Welt's ultimate affected not only the enemy but also the turn ticker so that cycles passed more slowly, he'd be S tier ^^ The problem is most of the hard content is timed, so speeding up / buffing your team is just better than slowing down / debuffing the enemy. In the cases where Welt can replace a sustain unit on the team while still providing worthwhile damage, he's still quite good.

I’ve always been interested in his character, but I only just got him and by now I have much better dps and debuff/support units

I think Welt works well with Ratio and Ruan Mei. His numbers aren’t the best but units that benefit from Debuffs like slow and imprisonment would appreciate him. I remember one of my first teams was Welt and OG Dan Heng because of how Dan functioned with slowed enemies and welt slowing enemies

I've still yet to pull Welt and Clara- but I have gotten both of their LCs. I do, however, have E3 Yanqing.

Im one of the few people who full buit welt as a main dps and he is very fun to use, my E consistently hits for about 80-100k so its quite good also

Welt, acheron and silverwolf sounds like a good trio.

One thing that I think people fail to understand is welt's biggest strength of timing the usage his ult. sure he slows down the enemy but it barely matters, but i dont think that is his biggest strength. his ultimate imprison enemies, so bosses with more than 1 action per turn can be disrupted if you ult between their actions which essentially removing a lot of the boss gimmicks, for instance you can prevent kafka from using mind control ever, gepard from using his AoE or even summoning units, true sting from charging up its strongest attack or even the auromaton elite enemy from increasing its sanction rate. Also when the boss is disrupted in between their 1st and 2nd action their action is considered to be done and they are pushed back even further with the imprisonment. I don't know how many people actually aware his ultimate gimmick. For people who only wants damage welt might not be the best option, but for those who loves confrol strategy and play it safer he enables that. Also his skill is a toughness shredder against single target enemies, if the gimmick of the MoC on that update is about breaking enemies weakness bar as many times as possible welt is one of the better options especially with ruan mei in the team.

He is my first 5 star and my main DPS, I am a proud Welt main... and always will be. I will never abandoned my man

IMO welt slow has interesting synergies w black swan. Her dmg stacks over itself and resets when the enemy takes a turn. I feel like a Kalfka, Welt, Ruan Mei, Welt team would be quite interesting

I literally use his as a main dps and instead of pushing his aside like most did when they dot ratio I put him on the same team along with Ruan mei. I'm not gonna lie I was confused with him when I first started the game because he felt like a destruction units but not with acheron coming out I've come to realize that nihility is a three in one path. It has crit dps (welt/acheron), full on Debuffers (silverwolf/pela), and dot units. Overall my favorite path

I think he'll be really good in a team with Acheron and Sparkle as a pseudo-preservation unit to apply debuffs

My fav part about "HI3 has the best waifu" is that one of DRXs players (I believe Beryl) straight up showed a pic of Elysium or whoever that was in HI3 (I don't play HI3 so I can't tell) when asked who he wanted his legendary skin of for Worlds 2022

I enjoy Welt but I only really started to use him when I built Ratio. I sadly don't see myself using him outside of that team though.