The HK VP9 Verses The P30! 

I do agree the LEM is sweet! Thanks for the comment

Well no shit dude lol, an upgraded hammer fired HK pistol beats out a stock striker fired HK pistol. Get a lazy wolf trigger with work done by Rick Holm and you'll have the best striker fire trigger out there.

Just got the grey guns kit and trigger as well…the VP9 doesn’t stand a chance stock. I haven’t shot the lazy wolf trigger though

@@asdfghjk2933 the Walther pdp with the special trigger from the factory (not the standard one just forgot what they call it) is the best polymer trigger…that trigger is just stupid good lol

that logic makes ZERO sense , your comparing a modified gun to a stock gun lol wtf . 4 is always bigger than 2 . invest similar money into the vp9 and itll perform the same

Couldn’t agree more, thanks so much for taking the time to watch the video and comment!

Great data point I am very curious about those LTT p30s thanks for the comment!

I solved the slide release problem, HK parts has a shortened version of the lever, they also sell a lower profile flat slide release. No longer fails to lock back on the last round because of my thumb position. There, now it's perfection for ya 😜

Ya it’s so much better on the USP wild how horrible it is on the P30

@@FirearmFreedomreally? To each their own, im so trained on 1911 i put all smalls around, carry liberty ammo civil defense in it and just hit the bastard when i draw, rest the thumbs off to the sude using the ol wring the towel method That said im so digging the grayguns lem and light v1 lem my 3LS is getting the regular 30 via lem soon And i had the SK, a usp .40 and uspc .45 but here in utah its the wild west out here man, the . The .40 my friend gave me was stolen lol. I aleays chrcj se The serial numbers and get a drivers license number, ID number signature and printed name as well as mine then a copy for me and then a final copy to go in My I guess we can call it receipt book since UTAH requires no background checks no concealed carry weapon permit nothing I actually have a huge problem with that even though I am in absolutely avid gun owner, pistol collector, having owned pretty much one of everything at some point in terms of major brands anyway, I currently am enjoying a lot of the really amazing clones out there Linda, take away the versa 380 combat plus which is one of the smoothest of elections I’ve ever felt even next to Kent’s like to sing P2 20 carrying cc and shit like that but anyway I am with you getting the HKP 30 V one man to go with My P 30 LS I am installing a gray guns flat trigger on both in the short reset trigger kit on both as well and just gonna have a hell of a fun time doing it super easy install anyway, but in my opinion, the lamb triggers pretty much the king trigger out I am being here and you and UTAH actually I lived less than a half mile away from HK parts not met and at least one person from Langdon tactical is a short drive away, so I really get up my game as I am able to get the money to do so I plan on if I can really turning the HKP 30 SK even though it’s a DASAP pistol my goal is is to try and moderate in this something that would rival that of most match. Great pistols and I’ve always been of the firm mind that the shooter behind the gun is more important than the gun itself. As long as the gun is reliable, but the lamb trigger, which, by the way, really fucking stupid name, considering I never see cops carry these let alone with all them trigger they like to get their souped up Glocks and extra mags in mag dump on the nearest brown person, they see at least that’s what I’ve seen far too often but I will say that limb trigger will turn anyone into at least a halfway decent shooter and a good combat shooter if they practice their draw and keep it up just speaking from experience extensive experience

Can’t beat a jazzed up P01 those are great pistols, thanks for the comment man!

Oh of course the USP would beat these two hands down lol

@@FirearmFreedom I have a p30l v1 lem and a vp9sk The p30l grip and ergonomics is phenomenal.

USP are out dated

Nope. HK45C Tactical.

Still loses out in shootability, which is literally the most important thing in a handgun. Lol

Great points, thanks for the comment and for taking the time to watch the video!

I mean I agree two point brother hell I got couple 1911s couple blocks couple right as I might actually go out on the limb and say the USP 9 mm experts might be a little bit better in terms of a DISA trigger that is but I think the P 30 V1 gray guns light trigger short reset trigger model, and the flat trigger combination which is a really cheap easy model do considering what you’re getting I I consider it to be the ultimate in carry guns and I die of the P 30 LS and I often carry it just like I have many of my 1911s however, right now since I mostly carry the Bersa 380 combat plus it’s just easier on me and I really don’t need a gun like the HK the type of protection gig that I only do a few times a month with my current health condition. The bursa is plenty and it has an amazing double action trigger and lately I’m trying to get into training people again, so having a limb trigger in to the ASA triggers, I feel like it is a fantastic place to start. I’m really I’m. Really looking at something like the Smith & Wesson 686 5 inch performance center or a key offered 50 DSI has my next pistol after that to just get a revolver to even things out. I’ve always wanted a Ciampa and just love the look and the fact that the Linda lowered for access is just really out of this world. There’s a lot of cool stuff to be done with it. That said, it’s a bit rich for my blood right now hence, like me, diving into the clone market with Sara Faber, saying her son by the way, Gerson and Sara both make some pretty cool 1911s.

And if you like me and really wanting a 2011 well the EAA garçon 2311 might be the right gun for you if like me you are likely years off from being able to afford a 2011 the 2311 is a 2011 but with a polymer frame and to my understanding highly modifiable that the initial trigger is 7 pounds so it’s it’s no RT viper or you know Aries are static oh but it’s also only about $900-$1000 And then, with some smart trigger work, you can get it to run right alongside those I know because I have a friend who’s done just that and I’m always in the mindset that the shooter matters more than the actual gun itself assuming the gun is reliable

Thank you so much I’m glad you enjoyed it!

Good points thanks for the comment!

Thanks so much for the feedback and the information man I appreciate it!

Vedder makes holsters for the P30s

Ya I just don’t know why the hell they didn’t decide to keep that texture on there it would of been perfect.

@@FirearmFreedom completely agree. I just got the P30 and the texture was the first thing i noticed. Huuuge difference. Ive seen on some HK45s the texture is different too. It will either have a P30 texture or a VP texture which is odd to me

Lmfao great points ya if your hand size allows you to rest on top it definitely isn’t as terrible. And I agree I neeeeeed a MK 23 some kind of bad lol

Without a doubt, they are sick! Thanks for the comment

Great points!

IMO the PDP trigger isn't even objectively better. It has a bit less travel and a shorter reset, but it also has noticeably more creep than the VP9 triggers. Makes a big difference.

Couldn’t agree more Keanon as always thank you for the support!

Ya I do really like man all things aside it really is a great pistol!

Unfortunately they are not it would be great if they were though!

I have shot my VP9 tactical suppressed, with both supers and subs. My advice is to avoid the older models that came with 15-round magazines. Mine was a jam-o-matic without a suppressor. The newer model works great with and without a suppressor.

Well I would normally 100% agree with you especially in the case of a glock. However the VP9 has about double the parts and is beyond over engineered/complicated to swap parts out on the fly. Lol

Not damaged I think it is more of the camera angle because occasionally it does look like that

Thanks for the comment!

Those are some pretty valid points I will say the hammer fired guns definitely shoot a bit slower than the VP9

Thanks, couldn’t agree more!

Couldn’t agree more, thanks for the comment!

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The PPQ is a great pistol along with the berettas and I prefer HSTs or gold dots. Thanks for the comment!

@@FirearmFreedom me too, I have two boxes of gold dot 124 +p

Wow that’s a wildly good round count, thanks for the data point!

Why? There are VP9s out there with nearly 100k rounds. Striker is just as good as far as that goes.

There you go that works perfectly lol!

Very well said Sir! Hammer guns are for fighting period! I have had the vp9 great gun I now have an HK 45c USP 40 and a p30sk and love them all. I'm going to be picking up a p30L and if you train and practice the trigger will be just fine I also have owned many sigs both hammer and striker currently own 4 p320's I don't think this is a fair comparison since his edc is the vp9 and has stated way more trigger time with that than the p30L and for the most part dots are great but can and will fail.i have a couple of them and do like them but at the end of the day irons are better in my opinion

Haven’t thought about it that deep, but it is a good perspective to keep in mind. I like hammer fired guns more but I don’t know why. I don’t think people should be buying based off other people’s opinions though. RU-vidrs do make something sound better or worse than it might be for you. My solution is to buy both lol. Gotta find out what kind of shooter you are though like you said. Most RU-vidrs do like to shoot for a hobby and lean towards what lets them shoot fast.

This is a whole lot of nonsense Hammer vs striker has nothing to do with long term durability. If anything, certain striker systems are far more robust than most hammer fired systems.

Well in this case it was just what I could afford for a threaded option the HK threaded barrels around around 300 this was 160

I would definitely have interest on doing that in the near future. I will keep it on my radar

You know it’s interesting that you say that because I’m comparing my standard Vp9 to the match side by side the trigger actually felt much worse on the match… consistently. Not sure why but it seems like the match triggers kinda suck. But regardless I do agree that Walter and canik have better factory triggers out of box.

Lol what a bunch of BS. Maybe you just got a particularly bad VP9, but a decent VP9 trigger is head and shoulders above everything you mentioned other than Walther.

Unfortunately they are not. I will have to check those other ones out though thanks for the comments!

Getting close to about 4,000 not a ton but definitely enough to put it through it’s paces

@@FirearmFreedom My first VP9 is at 3550 rounds, my VP9 OR is at 1850 and I`am now waiting for a new VP9 OR push-button. It is my everyday carry.

Unfortunately the vp9 holsters will not fit the P30

I get it man and paying anything high for a striker fired option is always a little tough I agree. Thanks for the comment!

I don’t mind the p2000 a great pistol too!

​@@FirearmFreedom I second this lol The p2000 is one of my favorites.....the p30 was a turd compared to the p2000 imo

Andddd welcome

Lmao there is nothing wrong with that flocks are great guns and they shoot great for most people 👍🏻

Glocks have lower bore axes, so maybe you noticed less recoil impulse with them compared to the HKs.

The USP is the way for sure

Try the 45C. Great gun

Thank you sir 🙌🏻

Very true lol

It's also called the SFP-9 because it's actually relevant for police and military use unlike the others.

@@asdfghjk2933 sfp just means "striker fire pistol"

@@fiken9310 Thought it meant something else, but eh. Still better than volkspistole.