I WARNED YOU! When we talked about the ABBA Voyage show, I warned you that this technology would not go away. Now it is linked to one of the most beloved bands in rock history. Led Zeppelin.
It's called LIVE music for a reason! No hologram can match the energy of a live show when the band and audience connect and feed off of each other. Get out and support LIVE MUSIC wherever you can!
I also have a DVD of a performance of Jeff Wayne's "War of the Worlds" musical in which Liam Neeson is the narrator but only appears on stage in holographic form. That was pretty interesting; especially as Liam is alive and well.
Natalie Cole sang with her dead father on PBS in 1992. And that recent photo of the remaining members of Led Zeppelin is very telling. Page and Plant look like they were rode hard and put up wet, even for their age. John Paul Jones looks marvelous. Genetics does play a part, but I bet that he was nowhere near as wide open with the substances as the rest of the band. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
It's a sad reflection of how music entertainment is today unfortunately. People just don't go to see real live concerts these days. There are many emerging bands and artists that aren't known as live performers that tour regularly. I mean, can you or anyone name on one hand, recent music artists known for having much of a live presence? Just like most movies today, nostalgia is king. They want to see and hear classics but spun in a new way. People are more than eager for instant gratification of seeing Whitney Houston or Roy Orbison in a lightshow form, than some garage band trying to find success. I hope this is just a passing fad, but I can see legacy artists like KISS and Roger Taylor/Brian May wanting to exploit this technology in the future. To me, it's just a lightshow. I want to hear bum notes, slightly intoxicated drummers and all the other wonderful imperfection that makes watch a real live performance great.
Since there were 20,000,000 applicants for 20,000 tickets for the last Led Zeppelin concert, I imagine there would be a demand for a LZ hologram performance. People are 'brought back from the dead' every time you watch movies with actors that have died. This is just 3d that's all. I think Page would be keen. Probably Plant would not be keen as he wants to leave the past behind. The iffy part is after people died to put words in their mouths that they never said or never would say would almost be like a slander.
Unfortunately Abba have been hijacked but the 'mama mia' generation and it's all become cheesey. I grew up with my parents playing Abba in the house and appreciated them as brilliant singers and song writers not just bloody Dancing Queen
Pretty sure the Tupac Shakur hologram at Coachella was the first hologram performance however many years ago. Not that it matters. I just thought I would share that piece of information. 🤘🎸
I saw a TV show where they screened a "hologram gig" with Les Dawson who was a UK comedian who had passed away. His daughter was in the audience, he had died when she was just very little so she didn't remember him very well. I watched this with great uneasiness as it was the image of Les Dawson but to me it was soulless. Admittedly I was watching through a TV screen so it was also at a distance. His daughter seemed very happy to have seen her Dad on a stage as many people had before. So maybe there are some benefits to this - but I find the whole thing a bit disturbing to be honest.
It's happening because as a fan of Rock/Metal there's not many bands I like anymore and I would rather watch a hologram concert of the old stuff. I would be kind of cool. Zeppelin, Randy Rhoads, Dio, Hendrix obviously.
In your way of thinking, technology should be frozen at the time of a star's death. We both know that's not going to happen. If that were the case then we shouldn't have any remastered albums of dead artists.
I can watch a clip of Freddie Mercury in a back screen with Brian May play guitar live at stage. But an entire hologram show is outageous. That's ok as a part of an Exhibition or a performance like Cirque de Soleil.
I’m not sure about hologram performances neither. I have never been to one though... I watch old movies full of dead actors. I listen to old records and recordings of dead artists, I think about and talk too my Dad and Mum who are gone...but not too me. Some people pass away yet leave behind something, a legacy, a store house of memories, they live on with us somehow. Is this not how great art and music works too ? Can we not still enjoy their presence in sound and vision... Maybe it all boils down to how its actually done, if an artist is respectfully and artistically presented in a setting that re-makes and recreates some of the magic then I think that’s okay. One of the great experiences to be had is to go to the Elizabethan recreation of the Globe Theatre in London and experience a Shakespeare play...a physical performance, the actors are bringing to life Shakespeare’s words on a page...to me anything that keeps great art alive in whatever format is good as long as, it affects us, as it was created to do. However, if the artistic work is simplified in a crass manner, or overly commercialised or undergoes Disney treatment, then it is a bad thing. The devil is in the details of how it is presented.
This is nothing compared with what is coming. The rate at which technology is developing there will be AI collaborations between artists and 100% convincing videos within our lifetimes. The same is true of movie stars who will be brought back from the dead for new films and franchises...
If people want to use they're hard earned for such entertainment...then why not. I wouldn't. In fact I wouldn't go see pentioner bands either. Sorry Genesis! 😉
Thankfully the ABBA Hologram concert was done with the consent and involvement of the original bandmates. A Led Zeppelin Hologram concert is never going to happen, but it'd be unethical to bring back John Bonham as a hologram
Wait until they combine AI and block chain metaverse tech. When the AI of the future comes in with the ability to write songs in the vein of the artist. Yesterday I heard a song about 🍌 in the style and voice of Joni Mitchell. Music will change, and learning an instrument will be obsolete. It will be so enticing that estates will jump at the money and fans? Forget about it. Who will own this music?. If some tech company prompts their technology to crank out a 10 song album written and composed in the voice of Jimi Hendrix and Prince 2 people who never met and former dying when the later was only 12!. Will the music belong to the person who made the AI prompt, the estate? You can't trademark Prince's singing voice nor Jimi's playing style. It's a form of spirit theft and will lead labels into paying new unique voices pennies for their voice inflections to create composite, Hologram characters.
Creepy is creepy. And I think trying to bring someone back from the dead will always come off as creepy. I think if they do it with people that are still alive? maybe in some sort of comedic fashion? It could probably work. They're going to have to tread very delicately with that technology.
I'm 100% AGAINST hologram concerts. If I want to see Led Zeppelin, I'll just watch "The Song Remains The Same." As for the music scene today, there are plenty of insanely talented musicians making great music that could be legendary but the industry doesn't want to market it properly.
I have a different view than you on this matter. I'm sorry if I sound like a lawyer, but after 40 years of being one, it is a literal occupational hazard. The next of kin have a property right with respect to the image of their deceased family member. As such, I believe that they have the right to make money from that right without regard for the tastefulness of the use. I may not agree with the tastefulness of the depiction and I have the right not to spend my money to view it. Until the law is changed on the matter, I support that right. Many recording artists who we now remember as stars, died before they made big money in the music business. Moreover, many of them were ripped of by record companies, agents, and, yes, lawyers and lost their publishing rights and other major drivers of income so their families are not receiving what others are now making tremendous money from the exploitation of the artist's recordings. Every time a Janis Joplin song is played on classic rock radio, the owners of the publishing rights make money, but the family gets nothing. Many families of deceased rock stars live in poverty while others make lots of money from publishing and performance rights. If the can score a big day from the use of their deceased relative's image, it is not for me to tell them they should not. When we listen to a song by Janis Joplin or Jimi Hendrix on the radio, we are putting money into pockets that are cold hearted business people. What is the difference between that and using the image commercially. Speaking of commercials, who do you think makes money when a deceased artist's music is used for a commercial? Hint, it isn't the family. We all have different ideas of what is tasteful, but that should not be a guide to how people use their property rights. In my view, that is not for us to say.
Don't you think that people are hungry for 'real' music? Today's music is too corporate, computerized, and dumbed down (among other things). Bands that know how to really play their instruments, and write their own songs produce something that people today and tomorrow will appreciate.
Are you suggesting that an answer to the dearth of good current music that we should rely on HOLOGRAMS and video rehashes of dead (or washed up) artists?
I totally disagree with your standpoint. I think it would be a great step forward. How is your negative view of this technology different than the advent of film or even recording?
It's been used to bring someone back from the dead. That was the VERY FIRST SHOW. 🤔 They didn't flood the market after Tupac. What makes you think they'll flood the market now, after it's been out for 10+ years? It doesn't matter if you think it's OK. You're not the one that controls that artists estate and you don't decide whether it happens so really, it doesn't matter what you or I think. You don't like it? Don't support it.
this IS BAD . THAT Zappa kid did this , defiled his own fathers image . he was disco dancing all over the stage and making fart noises . it was not good . lets NOT purchase the tickets for these events please? or are people really THAT lame .
@@harrypothead42024 sad , but hopefully there are a handful of good ones out there . like his brother dweezil comes to mind - THAT is honoring your father .
This is a terrible idea. I don't like the thought of people making money on the talents of the departed. Thats why music today sucks so much. Most of it is lame attempts to rip off the greats. They lack the talent of our generations musicians. None of these new acts spend the time on writing a good album anymore. It's all to make a quick buck off of the tone deaf generic youth. Like another commenter said and they're right it's LAME. I had to come back and ad it's insulting to the memory of the artist. I was lucky I got to see alot of concerts in the 70s. I never seen hendrix or the Beatles etc. But I would never want to see a fake group play versions of music they did not write. This crap endangers the legendary status of the original bands. Sorry for the rant but this pisses me off to no end. To use a line from the Beatles Man they need to just Let it be!!!!!!!!!!!
Well yeah technically right there is still an interest for this sort of thing but it's like I was touching base in my last comment that it seems like it's also being crammed down our threats I mean let's face it everything's kind of become a mix of everything before it's weird... I mean there's signs of it breaking of course the number one sign is there's those of us that are approaching our 40s and the reality of it is is no one lives forever this of course includes the boomers themselves so I mean if these companies are going to make a serious investment in this sort of thing and really want to parade it around and figure they can make trillions of dollars off of this while they better get on it they don't have a very large window of time!
Well the whole hologram going to have an old band from the '60s and 70s if not 80s perform concept, first off I don't really truly believe that it's about the music I believe that it's using the music and the famous likeness of the performers as a means of showing off and promoting the technology. I mean let's face it they're trying to sell us if not completely crammed down our throats all kinds of new or perfected technology and the easiest way to do that is well why not ride the wave of the nostalgia craze yeah you know get yourself an apple show going show off your technology maybe call up led Zeppelin right? Other than that I would say when it does come down to the bands and or individual musicians who agree that they hologram show is the way to go simply because I don't know perhaps they get to stay home whilst the holograms go and do all the work... I seem to believe that it's yet just another fuckin cash grab, and don't get me wrong I am one that greatly appreciates music from not just the 60s 70s and 80s but back much farther I'm basically a music nerd, However I can also say that the Boomer era music and of course entertainment at large along with their famous stars I can say has totally been shoved down everyone's throat it doesn't mean that I don't like the content because I do I'm seriously a big fan of that era in time... But what I'm trying to get at is simply they will not let that time die don't you get it the boomers heard this stuff when they were kids/teenagers and they've been stuck there ever since unlike even their parents which in the 60s and 70s was definitely considered sticks in the mud their parents kind of really didn't decide to get stuck in time until somewhere in the 1970s that's when they decided to quit changing with the times they kept finding '70s clothes that was a throwback to the 50s they're basically stuck in the 50s but with the 70s twist whereas the boomers they never got the fuck out of the '70s... And of course it's not just the boomers themselves I'm talking about when I say they won't let it die... It's the big time record companies you know all of the industry that has a vested interest and still making these products sellable they're the ones pushing this crap which I find interesting because I believe it was Gary right you know the guy who's done Dreamweaver, who said that rock and roll fans do not buy albums they will bootleg it before anybody else whereas the country music fans and the rap music fans they buy music those are the people that buy music but apparently your typical rock and rollers do not buy music and you know I can say he's not wrong so what I can't figure out is why they're pushing all the shit I mean they've claimed for 25 years they're not making any fucking money on it or they're losing mass amounts of money because everybody's stealing their shit so explain to me what is the objective what the hell is the bigger systems program to try and keep everyone steeped into Boomer music and culture?? There again it's not a matter of not liking it because I do like it but you're talking about technology of holograms potentially being used in the wrong manner and/or for the wrong things here's an idea maybe things like nostalgia have been already manipulated within the past 10 years honestly maybe the whole never getting out of the Boomer era is essentially all smoke and mirrors it serves as a distraction but why that's all I'm really suggesting why what the fuck is the program??? I mean I seen Ozzy recently this for motherfucker can't even hardly talk a clear sentence much less walk across the room for a cup of tea and yet somehow he's going to get back out there on the road I mean I find this very very interesting well I also find it a bit sick and sad! I mean think about it his wife forcing him to go out on the road and tour even if it was reduced to one-off shows here and there and I still count that it's not only spousal abuse but definitely at this point in time it's senior abuse you get it these big bad ass rock stars from the 60s and 70s are now fucking old to the point to where they qualify for senior abuse when they're not treated correctly I think it's time to hang at the hell up!!
