The Hudson Valley Squares & In the Prog Seat Crossover! When Heavy & Prog Collide! 

Pete's Picks: Atomic Rooster-Death Walks Behind You King Crimson-Larks Tongues in Aspic/Starless and Bible Black/Red Opeth-Still Life/Blackwater Park/Damnation/Deliverance/Sorceress Chuck's picks: Message From The Country-The Move The Man Who Sold The World-David Bowie Ha!-Ha!-Ha!-Ultravox! George's picks: Chris Poland - Damn the Machine (st) Toxik - Think This Avenged Sevenfold - The Stage Luis' picks: Univers Zero - Heresie Kopecky - Blood Anekdoten - Nucleus Eric's picks: Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet Derek Sherinian - Planet X Morglbl - Jazz For The Deaf Ken's picks: Guru Guru “UFO” Automatic Fine Tuning “A.F.T.” Flower Travellin’ Band “Satori” Ralph's picks: Atheist Coroner DBC Nick's Picks: Devin Townsend Amorphis Enslaved Chris' picks: Black Sabbath-Sabbath Bloody Sabbath/Sabotage Ryan's picks: Lemmy (Hawkwind & Motörhead) Voivod (first six albums) Jon Chang (Discordance Axis & Gridlink) Butch's picks (which I forgot to mention...sorry Butch!) Meshuggah - Chaosphere Queensrÿche - Rage For Order King’s X - Dogman

To every member of Hudson Valley Squares and In The Prog Seat, thank you. For introducing me to countless fantastic bands.

Thank you to our Hudson Valley and ITPS brethren being such great sports and bringing their usual excellent taste and passion to their picks on a every show basis.

Univers Zero are fuckin mental, really digging them after hearing Luis recommended them, gonna have to revisit this the next time I'm shrooming out!

Great show as always everyone! Thank you so much for an entertaining escape from the stresses of everyday life

Always epic to see so many of the SOTverse on board; thanks for another great show 🍺🤘!!

Big thanks to everyone who took part, that was very enjoyable.

Great episode guys, and no repeated picks! Impressive! Lots to delve into

This crossover video was a lot of fun. It was SOT's travel into Multiverse the way I see it. I'd like to see more of this combination, but I'm not sure what you could do, unless you compare styles of an individual. You already started to by mentioning Lemmy and Townshend. Just throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks. What I truly enjoyed was the exchanges back-and-forth on the choices offered. Some stated their case, and basically remained queit, but most had a healthy exchange of ideas. Totally loved the inclusion of the 70's. More to listen to.

Great idea, great episode!

You merge these two groups and….🤯. Sooo much music is introduced!

This went better than I thought it would. There are a lot of bands that I wouldn’t want to meet at the food court in the mall. 😂 I thought that it was great to see Ken and Ryan connect on an album.

Wow great show! Great to see the crews from my 2 favorite shows on this channel mix it up with a great topic. I have some music to check out now and I think I have to start with AFT.

Thanks to all - great episode! And thanks for the list there - lots of great stuff to check out

I love how the first two Eno albums, Here Come The Warm Jets 'n Takin' Tiger Mountain By Strategy jump genres, from heavy to quirky to avant garde 'n nearly anythin' goes.

Great show! I laughed out loud at the story from the Count about partying on the bus. That was awesome. Some cool Bands discussed! ✌️

Damn the Machine! Such a great album!

Shout out to Kens favorite band Kiss who went prog with their prog rock masterpiece Music From the Elder😄😄😄 still searching for that album where Jethro Tull went heavy. Guess i need to contact the official Grammy awards handbook

Bought Heresie by Univers Zero because Luis mentioned it in another SOT-episode. This record is a stunner. Thanks Luis.

Opeth. I've never been into the growling metal of the first half of their career but I absolutely love thier last 4 albums that are heavy prog.

Lots of cool live stuff by Univers Zero on RU-vid.

Satori by Flower Travellin Band is one of my all time favorite albums! Im glad it got mentioned!🤘

Oh yeah this is cool! I love this! 🤘

Def gonna check alot of these out today

Great call by Ralphus on Coroner. Though I would personally put No More Color over Punishment For Decadence, not only is that album more prog, it's more thrashy and violent. IMO it comes close to Altars of Madness and Beneath The Remains.

This was a tremendous show seeing my favorite SOT hosts combined on one episode/ Mon / Tuesday. Thx to all. Super fun 👍💯

Kingston Wall was great! Nice that you mentioned them, Nick!

Love George's face when Pete talks about King Crimson 😂

Hudson Valley Pets 😃

I think the Move was an astute and fitting choice here. To me, the heavy trend started on their second album, Shazam. Their third, Looking On, intensified the trend - it includes “Brontosaurus”, which, as you might expect, is a lumbering behemoth of a track. Cheap Trick covered that one too.

Atomic Rooster are awesome.I like all their albums from the 70's particularly the first one I heard which is Death walks behind you.Absolute gem of an album !

I am really surprised DEATH didn't get a mention!! Great show guys!

Hi Guys. Great episode. Thanks for sharing i will check some out.

"So heavy the "e" fell off the name". Lol Nic!

Any show that mentions Univers Zero AND Discordance Axis is OK by me!

Emperor - Prometheus (heavy going prog)

Cool episode!!

I can't hear the words Swedish Metal, without thinking of Ryan Skow. 💪

Looking forward to the cross pollination of HVS and ITPS insights into heavy bands that went prog and vice versa. Off the top of my head I can think of Deep Purple, Uriah Heep and Opeth.

Cheers Gentlemen, Great show. Definitely have some bands to check out. My picks: Haken- Vector and Virus are their heaviest albums but not my favorites. Loving the balance on the new album Fauna better. Rush- Caress of Steel/2112. Is this not the birth of Prog Metal? Maybe King Crimson Red in 1974. Faith No More- Angel Dust. This album is so many things: Funky, Psychedelic, Prog, Heavy and Hard Rock and stinky and scary. Of all their albums this one has stood the test of time.

Also old Amorphous did Alot of Death & Prog at times! "A Dark Winters Day" Was Awesome, Very Dark & Prog!! Wow I wrote this before saw Nicholas say about this!!

The damn the Machine album is superb..... from the music on the album to the album cover...... I lost the old cassette tape but I wish I had it on CD!

HAWKWIND : "Warrior on the Edge of Time" is the bands most Prog album.

You should do some shows called Best/Worst/Overrated/Underrated with the Prog squad. Take a band's discography and each pick 4 albums. It would be awesome. Keep up the good work!

Cool! More "fusion" like this plz.

Flower Travellin' Band - Satori (1971). Fusion Orchestra - Skeleton In Armour (1973). Ihsahn - The Adversary (2006).

Great show guys!! sorry I had to miss it.... I would have picked Opeth and Elder and maybe Haken Virus which was damn heavy

Great to see the crossover between HVS and ITPS. Ryan didn't fool anyone with the Viovod Tshirt I knew he was going to pick them. Nothingface is a good album I have it. I need to check out more Voivod albums as I only have Nothingface and Synchro Anarchy. Also nice of Pete to list the albums in the comments from everyone's picks so we can check them out.

Great episode. 🤘

Ryan pulling a half Catino!! 🤘🏻

Elder comes to mind. Dead Roots Stirring is a doomy stoner rock album. From there they have evolved while maintaining a heavy edge. Their latest, Innate Passage, is a full-on prog album.

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage are both my favorite Black Sabbath albums, and the prog elements have a big part to do with that. But I do have to say that Black Sabbath had little touches of prog even from the beginning. They really never had much of a use for simple pop verse-chorus-verse-chorus song structures.

Many thanks to Ryan for bringing up Pagan Altar and the album Lords of Hypocrisy! I have never heard it and it's killer!! Thank you for the enlightenment and excellent show everybody

I'm glad Luis picked Univers Zero! In a similar way I also think the chamber prog band Art Zoyd are very heavy! Especially their album "symphony for the day when the cities will burn"! Also the zeuhl band Shub Niggurath and their album "Les morts vont vite"! That album is like Magma meets doom metal!!!

Glad Chuck mentioned The Move. Two guiding lights in that band, Jeff Lynne and Roy Wood. Great choice.

The first one that came to mind was Sabbath`s "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath". Also I agree about Rick Wakeman being a really cool dude. The best acceptance speech I`ve ever seen at any awards show was Wakeman at the RnR hall of fame. He did a 3 minute stand up act, it was nothing but jokes.

Great show guys Nice to see you Nick cheers

Epic!

Can't wait to see Enslaved live in a couple of weeks. Nick's description just made me even more stoked for the concert 🤘

Ken-Couple weeks after ordering the re-ish of Satori (which I had on CDR for years) I found a first press in my local antique store for,wait for it-12 bucks! The single biggest score of my 55 year collecting career.

George is legit my new favorite panel member of all time after hearing him mention Avenged Sevenfold’s The Stage. I’m a huge Avenged fan and The Stage is my favorite album from them. Title track is my favorite song from them and Exist is another outstanding epic. Get Pete to listen to this album George, I think he’d enjoy it quite a bit!

I think Between The Buried And Me fits this topic. I am not hugely familiar with their stuff but from what I know I think there's a huge leap into progressive music from their early stuff to an album like coma eliptic.

I never thought of Ultravox as metal or prog,but happy to see them mentioned.

2 minutes in and you're talking about Anekdoten. My sort of show!

Devin Townsend is the fucking man. One band he played with early on in his career that you missed is Front Line Assembly (a bit of Millennium and all of the incredible Hard Wired)

I think No Means No ...and Th' Inbred... also fit the heavy/proggy fusion category

The first album I thought of was "Spheres" by Pestilence

Can we get this show every single week, please ? Amazing!

Opeth and Enslaved are the best examples in my mind for heavy but proggy. Luis is totally on point with Bartok, heavy shit! This was a GREAT show guys!

Awesome crossover I just saw the teaser for the new Yes album coming out in May I have to say looking forward to this one. there's some epic yes stuff some brining back songs clocking in way over 10 minutes too. This is one I hope that isn't a letdown.

Damn The Machine is a gem. A&M didn’t know what to do with it + the time it was released was unfortunate. 🚬

Mister Skow, if havent you have to hear Antigama its a really good band kind proggy grind avantgarde

The Faceless Cephalic Carnage Origin Cryptopsy Candiria

Manilla Road had many elements of Prog

Haven’t started listening to this video. I definitely will. Its subject relates to my discussion. This might be of interest to those of this channel. I’m reading the book The Musical Human by Michael Spitzer (highly recommend it). This morning’s lesson had me thinking of Sea of Tranquility/ Hudson Valley Squares. Briefly, let me first say, I love Hudson Valley Squares (HVS), but I listen as an outsider. I’m often at odds with it. Unlike most of the personalities here who embraced Metal in the 80s, I was a Hard Rock purist who rejected Metal in the 80s. I only later softened my stance, and accepted Metal. So today’s lesson in the book was all about the older tradition of the lyre (a singed instrument) and the New Music of the aulos (a double pipe instrument) in ancient Greek. How does this relate to SoT/HVS? Surprisingly well, actually. The lyre is associated with Greek philosophers, wisdom, order. Think of Athens. Maybe think of Prog too. The aulos is connected with disorder, wildness, drunkenness… Dionysus, dancing & chanting in a circular pattern. Think of Sparta. The aulos has a deep roaring sound that the Greek old guard found terrifying. At this point in the study I started thinking of Metal, that scene I was not part of in my youth. I thought of all the stories of terrifying music and drunken behavior I hear all the time on HVS, which I did not engage in back in my youth. I’m not putting anything down, just pointing out that as an outsider I often shake my head in wonder over all the stories of disorderly music and behavior I hear on HVS… as an Athenian would the New Music of the aulos. The lesson also got into Greek tragedy, played to the aulos, featuring sacrifice and violence. Why do people find violence entertaining the book asked. That brought to my mind how many of the HVS personalities are also Horror fans and do a Horror podcast. I am not a Horror fan. It often amazes me how sensible people regard violence as entertaining (again, not putting anyone down, only pointing it it's something I don't get). I think after this lesson I will view SoT/HVS in a deeper light. Should mention, I am an amateur cartoonist. For a while now I’ve planned to introduce characters, as Metal fans, into my cartoon strip based on HVS personalities. Yes, Pete, you are one of them. Is this portrayal going to be flattering... well... well... let's say that will play out in all this business between the order of the lyre and the disorder of the aulos, and my youthful experience (view point) tended to be orderly (ie. not Metal). I don't want to cast any of you in a negative way, but the story demands I play the conflict up, and it is truthful to how I listen to HVS. I wouldn't worry, Pete. No one reads my strip anyway. This lesson fits perfectly into that (Dionysusian) storyline.

Dream Theater-- The Astonishing Bee Gees - Odessa

I gave Univers Zero a try based on this. It's a no go for me. To each their own I guess.

Prog bands, that went heavy: King Crimson - Thrak Porcupine Tree - Fear of a blank planet Metal bands that went proggy: In the Woods - Omnio Edge of Sanity - Crimson Amorphis - Elegy Green Carnation - Light of day, day of darkness

Love Chuck's pick of The Move's Message From the Country. That is one wonky album with some crazy melodies. I'm thinking of songs like The Words of Aaron and The Minister. The CD version I own has all their last singles: Chinatown, California Man, Down on the Bay, Do Ya and Tonight, which makes it an even more enjoyable listen.

Manilla Road - The courts of chaos Ved Buens Ende - Written in waters Theocracy - As the world bleeds

Topic request: Discovering the Back Catalog. A band puts out albums for years and you just start listening to them now -- and your mind is blown. Not just by that album, but by most of the albums in their back catalog. Why didn't you listen to this band until now? Did their album art always put you off or something? Also, going through their back catalog you don't have the same expectations as career-long fans when their albums came out (so for example you'd be listening to Club Ninja with probably more openness than the fans at the time did).

I've always liked Never Say Die - and always thought of it as being progressive (esp. side 2) - gonna play it now!!

Luis strong out of the gate

Can't help thinking about German band Mekong Delta and their 1988 album The Music Of Erich Zann. A mix of thrash and prog

Is it just me or did Alo get cut off after only one pick? I was bummed cuz he’s my favorite character on the show. 🤷‍♂️ All you guys are great though.

I was one of the happy ones when Opeth went warm and comfy🥰

Fushitsusha is a very good psych/avant-prog/noise metal band that can get very heavy when they want! Check out the second track on their first live album! It has one of the best riffs in the history of rock and metal!

Interesting video...

I realize the picks I mentioned went towards a soft rock direction but I found that interesting that those picks I chose started as prog

A great example of this is ambrosia they started as prog then changed musical direction towards an soft rock band another I can think of is krokas they also started as prog and went towards a hair metal direction I would also argue atomic rooster is another

I was thinking about Atomic Rooster as well but thinking more about their 1980 album where they went for more of a NWOBHM sound. Not the best album but it’s got some cool songs on it.

Very surprised Mr. Alo didn't mention the title track to Venom's “At War with Satan”.

I should also mention the freak folk albums Jola Rota by Joakim Skogsberg and First Utterance by Comus! I don't know how heavy they are but they are definitely dark and scary and I think people who like black metal would like those albums!

I'm surprised nobody mentioned the one and only album from the band 'Spiral Architect' 'A Sceptic's universe' from 2000 or the band Arcturus!

I was certain that Anathema would have been somebody's pick.

Does any of you guys like Daliborovo Granje, and their Hainin album

Hey guys, I just got done listening to Flower Travelin' Band. I caught that groove in the second song and I was hooked, awesome. Did Ken say he had it in stock at LaserCD ? I gotta have it.

In The Squares aka The Hudson Valley Seats.

Demon - British Standard Approved (Concept album about the Titanic) Saracen - Vox In Excelso (Concept album about The Knights Templar)

What do you all think of King Buffalo?