THE IDOL: An Obscene Autopsy 

OMG. CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE OF IDOL BALL Z.

Is mecha walter white a gundam mecha, attack on titan mecha, or evangleion mecha?

If Sam Levinson has any creative integrity, he is going to shoot an Episode 6 retroactively canonising the Tedros Durden theory.

​@@sowjmay8286what ever kind you want sweetie 🥰

@@sowjmay8286 A Super Sentai Mecha.

I'd rather imagine be Roman Polanski because then I make a better project than this one (sarcasm).

I'd rather be Gengar from Pokemon

I'd Rather Be Vic Mignonga

i giggled reading this

Stole it from her 😕

season 2 was just as good if not better

​@@ryanxampsaid no one ever

ryan, let’s not lie

@@ryanxampyeah whatever floats your boat, some of us want to watch good stories, some of us want to see young blonde women cry as much as they can I guess

Especially if the protagonist is a female lmao

Same goes to the Male Perspective. Never downplay it, but moder. Woke Hollywhood the only it does is downplay it

@@kant.68 go fix your teeth

The whole deal with them thinking the show was too “focused on the female perspective” confuses the hell out of me because . . . who the hell did they think was gonna be watching the show? It’s not even sexism at this point, they’re just stupid!

@@katelynpringle5506Hubris is a hell of a drug.

yea Levinson himself, like a lot of hollywood directors, has no capabilities; the hackery and empty provocation of every work with his name attached to it should be proof positive of that

Petra collins is one of my fav directors

Glad she's doing vids for Olivia cause she is spectacular!

it all made sense to me when i learned that levinson is a nepo baby. that's why he's allowed to be so mediocre!

@@slena From what I can gather Levinson basically fills out the entire bingo card: Nepo baby, masks cheap hackery with shock value and has enough "carte blanche" in Hollywood to basically hijack (and run aground) any project he wants

I wish I could get HBO to pay me to film sex scenes. Especially since I have acted more than twice before.

He didn't get undressed ONCE

Ok comment sections need their own Oscars. Best *record stratch* reaction.

I loved it!! Seeing all those scenes with Lily-Rose Depp, how can you not?!

⁠RIGHT he was openly shirtless for the first AND last time .. why can’t they use fake 🅿️🅿️s for the scenes like they did in euphoria

it could be interesting - hell, the Weeknd is very aware that Tedros is not a good person, so I know he at the very least was trying to make a complex character study about two really messed-up people - but the Idol is just not that really organized of a show to the point where the power of such a twist (the possibility of people taking the vigilance of post-Time's Up/MeToo Hollywood/the music industry and creating new tactics in order to get away with a lot worse) has been shot in the foot in favor of Sam Levinson and the Weeknd just wanting water-cooler moments ("hey, did you know that the pop star lied about her mom beating her up with a hair brush?") like Gone Girl

I think it could be interesting but it’s a little juvenile. Did you ever go to middle school with ‘that girl’ that would lie about everything? I knew someone who had a nice life, but because our friend group had a lot of people with f-Ed up life’s she would lie to fit in. Jocelyn’s mom prob taught her as a kid to lie for sympathy, and my guess is she had lied to Xander and Lea since they were young as a means of owning them. In the k drama mask girl (spoilers) there’s an episode with two middle school girls were one of them lies about abuse to get close to her friend who is actually abused. It’s told in a way where we see it’s wrong, but we also sympathize with why she’d do it and we as the audience member want her to stop

or just... you know... read the lyrics to his songs, the whole story was already there

Honestly makes me worry about the lives of the women he's been close to.. I don't want to speculate but that kind of message tied to his project would feel like a threat and a slap in the face if any of them allegedly survived abuse by him.. He blatantly describes himself as someone like the Tedros character, granted only to an extent, in his own music and music videos. All of it feels like glaring giant red flags that will be ignored for the sake of "art" until the day something actually comes out about him being like that. It'll be another case of "we never saw this coming!" when it's been written on the wall literally by his own hands. Same goes for Sam but I digress.

you don't have to do that just read the lyrics of his songs.

seriously, hsm 2's director took his job so seriously he spent days shooting bet on it lmao

You are correct

Yes, much more wholesome and all the underage children actually keep their clothes on in that film series. :)

He was an executive producer, he had the power because he was paying for it.

@@alorockss Smh.

I am disgusted by his character from the first moment he is introduced tho. I am not sure if that was the whole goal

THEY AXED A BRITNEY CAMEO???

Really just shows how thriving the patriarchy is 🫠

omg u should watch bodies bodies bodies

“Shiva Baby” is genius imho. Now I gotta find “bodies bodies bodies”

Same case here

My main take away from this video is that I really need to watch Shiva Baby some time before I die. Lol.

Lol same!

This. I don't understand why he didn't understand this.

i've always said the r kelly influence has been big. i dunno why people i know only see the michael jackson side. it's the reason why his sex songs are crass, one trick, or pedestrian at times, because that's how r kelly writes.

it would've been great if the show actually explores that aspect (in a non exploitative way like Sam Levinson did of course). We got Chloe who's 17 and is manipulated by Tedros. That could've been a great plot for the show. But knowing Sam Levinson and his weird obsession with exploitative underage portrayal (Euphoria, especially Cassie's character), he would've romanticize it instead.

@@KhailSOLOi think it’s bc of his vocals/falsetto at some times sound similar to MJs , (in the night, can’t feel my face, love me harder, D.D., adaptation, etc.) while his lyricism/flow is r.kelly-esque. most locals only listen to the voice rather than the lyrics lol

Lol imagine if the made something LIKE THAT the main focus 😂😂😂

Brave is another example. It starts of as a potentially good movie about Merida’s conflict with her mother, but then it suddenly veers hard into bear. Turns out that’s because management decided to replace the female director with a male director who didn’t understand the assignment

And HBO keeps enabling Sam Levinson’s utter lack of creativity and talent by canning female directors with actual talent and stories to tell. The Idol flopping and being massively hated is absolutely what The Weeknd, Levinson, and HBO deserve.

S2 was so unbelievably bad. Like what the hell was that?

In real life, Joselyn would be cancelled for supporting and abus3r like that 😅

The point was “woman bad will Manipulate and trap (this crusty man no one wanted and was obsessed with her, okay Sam it’s time for your tele health visit with your therapist)”

​@Caty0Caty idk about that, Nicki Minaj is married to a convicted pedo and Cardi B admitted to drugging and robbing men and both are still uncancelled

I think the idea is that he's now going to be dependent on her forever instead of the other way around like he'd planned

His punishment is being "abused" by Jocelyn.

Absolutely

It’s more because of the weekend and sam if you got ride of those two people it would have been better

Same 😂

Or Aunts. I don't care about Big Little Lies but she made sure I knew about it. 😐

​@@FirionLeFleur But Big Little Lies is so good tho

@@bingoing that's fine but it was literally the family guy "I just sat down"

Basically that but more sexual / a weird amount of grinding on people that I don’t think is professional. 😅

Or consensual. 😊

Did the whole Harvey Weinstein thing teach you nothing? It is definitely dumb

In reality you get a record deal by A) Already having a sizable audience B) signing away all rights and creative control over your music C) Talking to the right people at the right time So yeah… if your cult leader gets you an open space to perform directly in front of record executives….. you could definitely (maybe) sign a record deal 🤷🏻‍♀️ See B) for why that sea might suck though, esp as a cult follower you’re probably rather disenfranchised and don’t have a lawyer you could ask to review the contract before you sign

You forgot Beyonce in Goldmember

You forgot about Prince in Under The Cherry Moon. Said no one ever.

In retrospect? I think we were super harsh on Britney Spears and Madonna's performances. The Weeknd was so bad in this.

Ludacris has done some great stuff.

beyonce in dreamgirls in underrated imo

i really REALLY hope that's the case

No it's definitely over for him. Sydney Sweeney - one of the main actors and most liked in Euphoria, has moved on to film projects and going by Nocturne, has a damn good start to her portfolio as a movie actress.

You can never be done when you have nepotism on your side

Who was canceled?

I agree with the rest but no need to use angus in that context man..

They would have had one of the biggest pop star of the 2000s on their show and that alone would have made millions watch it plus the weekend they would have potentially had over millions of people watching and would have made a lot of money.

Plus, Britney has done cameos in other shows before and has gotten a good reception, so I can totally see it.

Someone higher up probably read the script and realises the story is too close to reality. They knows the internet today can put two and two together like CSI and ordered the script change

She agreed to take part though. She said she was a fan of Sam Levinson's work. You can't get Jennie, an adult, to do anything.

@@louisaislife2285 I edited my comment because that was not what I was implying by “get”

i think i burst out laughing when she asked that. although tbh i burst out laughing a lot throughout watching this show.

@@louisaislife2285that’s not what they were saying lmao

@@louisaislife2285is that what they said? Also, being a fan of him probably just means she liked euphoria, and wanted to ba a part of something she thought would be what they said “the next euphoria”

Idk... I don't get the Rachel sennot hype but boy was she the only good thing in this mess

so true

Y'all people got to see Lily-Rose Depp elated with pleasure in the most steamy scenes of 2023 and yet y'all still manage to complain. Edit: In all seriousness It is quite clear this show's sexual scenes are supposed to be obscene and demonstrate the depravity, toxicity, superficialism and decadence of the entertainment industry - what goes on behind closed doors. It isn't even that deep and is pretty easy to understand. It is a pity you guys don't get art that is quite surface level compared to a lot of media out there - can't wait to see how you'd react to the scenes in independent or art house cinema 💀

well ayo edebiri was in bottoms so…..

​@@_Wakaz_did you think you'd copy and paste this dumb comment and get a bunch of likes?

Or better yet, the fact that Prince abused and groomed the women he was with. Look up how he groomed his wife or how he’d force dancers to starve etc. That would have been a great angle

@@user-hc2tu7ul7jI’ve never heard that before, holy crap.

*mic drop*

after the recent news it might as well just be jason momoa writing it

​​@@_holy__ghostthe way people are just fawning over momoa for that now is really just sickening

@@omgmo1962 agreed. i used to think he was absolutely dreamy but now i just feel dirty even thinking about him

@@_holy__ghost 🤦‍♂️ you’d kill for Heard apparently

I don't want to watch a show set in a world where tove lo doesn't exist

I was really interested in the concept when it was first announced and had lost all interest by the time it premiered. I wonder which HBO execs they were protecting by pivoting away from the idea that the entertainment-industrial-complex mines young women for every bit of charm, appeal, idealism, and youth they possess and leaves them damaged husks.

they need to release the seimetz cut!!!

That's what I always thought it was gonna be about. Imagine my huge disappointment when I found out it wasn't the case... I've been waiting so long for a Britney-inspired story, especially after all she's gone through. I guess I'll have to wait more...

Also small algorithm prayer. Could you look at Jeff Blim's work for StarKid? Dude has surpassed himself. And he is so slept on outside of the internet.

same here!

As someone who’s been watching Todd in the Shadows since he was still a part of Channel Awesome hearing him shout out Mic was both really cool and existentially horrifying

​@@MrSkerpentineI completely recognise that. I have an affinity for Todd but it's very strange to see that do a full circle. I spoke to my writing mentor about it (story shortened) and how though in internet years there is a gap of a decade and a lot varied experiences of said internet. They aren't even that distant in age or in theory watch demographics.

@@Firegen1 I've seen a lot of younger creators cite Todd as an influence, it's hardly surprising.

never heard truer words

Must have been bad lighting ;)

also how would a guy even know if a brush was brand new or not lol especially when we see her using it

continuity? never heard of her

Concerned? I’m mostly resentful.

Why do you feel concerned for a star that don't know and don't care about u lmao

I don't really think this will have any effect on him honestly

@@YourMazzter1 considering people treat him as Abel and not The Weekend, yeah, maybe you are right

I think the Idol is incredible for one reason: it inadvertently reveals that the man least responsible for the dangerous, creepy, lothario image The Weeknd has crafted over the past decade or so is probably The Weeknd himself. His complete inability to act forces the audience to look at the character as just himself and what he’s actually like, and it turns out he’s a bit of a harmless dork, weirdly unsexy and generally unappealing and lacking charisma. Which makes those Prince posters even more of an incredible feature, as if you watch Under the Cherry Moon (the one Prince film where he has to live and die by his acting and it isn’t just a glorified concert film) you walk way with the exact same impression of Prince, that he’s actually a little weirdo who has next to no personal skills and is more of a sex pest than exciting loverman. Just astounding really. Turns out the people who really earn their money are the staff surrounding these stars and keeping them from ruining their images with the public.

Shattered Glass is a great movie. I watched it in one of my journalism classes in college.

Dude's always cool. Love his character in Ray Donovan - so rotten to the core yet so nuanced

The "Female Perspective" thing did factor in but IMO thats not the Issue at all, its more about the Egos of these People and Literally Scraping an 80% done Film with a Massive Reshoot, This like the Joshtic League of TV Series, scrapping an almost done Film because the New Guy didn't get what the OG guy was going for.

Very memorable show that doesn’t deserve the hate

That was weird for me as well. Like where was the dad in all of this? Did he leave? Like I feel like that should have been brought up

Like let's be serious. Westworld s2&3 might have sucked but 1 was so fkn incredible and yet they removed the entire series from the platform. And for WHAT!!?

@@magicalnonameSo they could license the series to Tubi of all places.

@@MysteryMii lol be serious! Really!!? Well I guess that's a win for Tubi

THIS!

Well, a 17 minute song in 4 parts.

The final part with the guitar solo gives me chills

This is because she's senior in the kpop industry and she and her grp have a global success, she atleast has a saying in the company. This is actually is a common thing in kpop industry, if your both successful grp n have a seniority you will have saying or somewhat control or involvement in the creativity especially in boy grps.

also yg is letting lisa do the crazy horse cabaret, so they're obviously getting a lot of freedom, mainly as yg would be pretty much nowhere without bp. also as the saying goes, any publicity is good publicity, which is false but...(i know they're maybe, probably- leaving yg, but i assume these decisions to let them do this was decided when they were for sure under yg).

@@irlbunnie222they're giving them freedom to do what they want is because their contracts expired and only one of them renewed. BP is pretty much over, that's why they can do what they want, not because they're "Western artists" now lmao

bp have much more freedom so it's all on jennie for choosing to be on this show and praising the sam creepinson

Damnnn I never about that before