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The Illusory World Must Still Be Taken Seriously 

Rupert Spira
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@lycanthrogenic979
@lycanthrogenic979 4 месяца назад
People are being driven to hysterics over "crises" that are either manufactured, fallacious, or outright lies. While it's important to consider the truth behind metaphysical illusion, much of the illusions afflicting our minds are at the level of the political - results of media manipulation and social conditioning. Well-meaning people often give credibility to theories and ideas that just aren't true. Discernment is crucial at every level.
@danj9339
@danj9339 4 месяца назад
Absolutely correct!
@jagoisvara8178
@jagoisvara8178 4 месяца назад
Well said. I'm quite surprised to see someone at a Rupert Spira talk who's fallen for the climate change scam.
@ferdinandocoluccelli9574
@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 4 месяца назад
Discernment is a great thing, but taking responsibility for the consequences of our actions is even more so. it is foolish to boast about the good things done and not recognize oneself as the cause of the bad ones.
@bodhiheeren
@bodhiheeren 4 месяца назад
Must be an easy live when you can ignore the problems of the world that way. Which to me sounds suspiciously like conspiracy theories. Ukraine and potentiel world war, global warming (which you probably belive don't exist), gaza etc.. are they really all created by medias? Or is it perhaps rather your views that are a product of far right anti-scientific media.
@aliadam814
@aliadam814 4 месяца назад
Discernment is crucial at all levels 😂😂😂😂kkkkk
@summondadrummin2868
@summondadrummin2868 4 месяца назад
Illusion means something is not as it appears, it doesn't mean it has no real existence.
@bethanienaylor
@bethanienaylor 4 месяца назад
True true
@RobbeyT1
@RobbeyT1 4 месяца назад
The world is real but it's not what it 'appears' to be, what it 'appears' to be is an illusion.
@jackroberts416
@jackroberts416 4 месяца назад
It is about realizing the illusion that the world will bring you lasting happiness and fulfillment when it won't. You get that from within yourself. And by realizing this you are able to feel fully whole and complete without searching in the world for it which in many forms ends up being self destructive behaviors and habits. If you get all your happiness and joy from within you are able to be constructive in everything you do for yourself and others instead of destructive.
@julesjules5439
@julesjules5439 4 месяца назад
Everything is Shiva
@RobbeyT1
@RobbeyT1 4 месяца назад
@user-cn3du8zi3z It means, there is ONLY infinite consciousness/Source and everything appears within that. However, infinite consciousness/Source is not a shape, its formless and not physical...it is NO THING-NESS... So how can any THING appear from No-THING? Well it's not possible, it can't! So, No-thing is being everything, and everything is No-thing. Makes sense when it's realised that everything is composed of 99.9% empty space.
@aymanelmalt9361
@aymanelmalt9361 4 месяца назад
Therefore we have to deal with this illusion in order to realise the happiness from the real ONE behind this illusion
@ruisoares4515
@ruisoares4515 4 месяца назад
Beautiful explained! Thanks for sharing Rupert!
@hemamalinirs1002
@hemamalinirs1002 4 месяца назад
Completely agree , thank you so much Rupert ,, lots of love ❤🙏🙏
@db-333
@db-333 4 месяца назад
We must make the best of this illusion/world , but fall back into the one truth when this illusion takes hold of our hearts and mind . One is temporary! And one is eternal 🙏🏻♥️ blessings to all /one 🫶🏻♥️
@bodhiheeren
@bodhiheeren 4 месяца назад
All I know is that I am temporary. The idea that there may be something eternal too how can one ever be sure it is not just a pleasant illusion to cover up the fear of death?
@db-333
@db-333 4 месяца назад
@@bodhiheeren the ego believes it knows , go the the knower , the observer aka awareness ♥️
@bodhiheeren
@bodhiheeren 4 месяца назад
@@db-333 Unlike most commentators here I know absolutely nothing. But I am bit confused when you say 'the observer aka awareness' because it's my impression that the observer (which I am familiar with) is NOT the same as awareness. That awareness (which I don't know) is an entity that apparently is beyond the observer. "When the observer is the observed" with Krishnamurti's famous expression
@db-333
@db-333 4 месяца назад
I agree, I know nothing , but for me what’s real never dies. I’m not here to convince anyone , only sharing my experience,. After all isn’t that what we all are doing ? Isn’t that what this human life is about ? Sharing , receiving etc… I’m ok what ever is , I do not fear death . For me death and birth are one .
@bodhiheeren
@bodhiheeren 4 месяца назад
@@db-333 Nice.
@knowthetruth311
@knowthetruth311 4 месяца назад
That's why in advaita vedanta we chant OM followed by peace ×3 1. Peace is for sorrow within 2. Peace the conflict in the external world 3. Peace is that of destruction of nature. Infact the problem is more of intellectual than that of experience. We have to come to an understanding of this reality in order to remedy this notion of superimposed world on that reality. I can't imagine how we are living in opposition to the reality 😢😢😢😢😢😢
@MichaelDamianPHD
@MichaelDamianPHD 3 месяца назад
my god what a lot of nonsense
@knowthetruth311
@knowthetruth311 3 месяца назад
@@MichaelDamianPHD you right to say anything as we are witnessing how scientist (you) struggling with the hard problem of consciousness. We wish you good luck. Science will never prove consciousness as by itself is within consciousness. Never and never
@tangotangoh
@tangotangoh 4 месяца назад
The word "illusion" has deluded many, resulting in misconceptions. We are here physically in the body and we have to deal with challenges and issues that come with the body and the world holistically, not denying anything.
@Amorcomacento
@Amorcomacento 4 месяца назад
The illusory world is our true nature! ❤
@Amorcomacento
@Amorcomacento 3 месяца назад
@user-cn3du8zi3z asking what? is our true nature!
@KK-sg5gl
@KK-sg5gl 4 месяца назад
If there are consequences, doesn’t that make it real? If not, there needs to be a definition of what is real, and what isn’t. Because a lot of these analogies seem to contradict themselves, to me, anyway. Any smart person knows that the trash can on a computer is just a symbol that represents deleting of the information placed on the hard drive. No one believes it’s an actual trash can. Is a physical trash can real? IMO the computer version is more real because once you delete something, it’s gone. But I can place my hand in a physical trash can and still retrieve the item.
@graememcgregor8407
@graememcgregor8407 3 месяца назад
So let's just label the 'REAL' one as a recycle bin then it works just like the computer one in that you can still see and retrieve things from inside. At leat until you either press the delete button or your bins get emptied by the dustmen. But again, it is all semantics. We have to respect matter as 'REAL' so why not consider it as real? you wouldn't stand on a train track because that 'ILLUSORY' train would wipe out your 'ILLUSORY' butt! We have to respect matter and time as 'REAL'. So what benefit is there in considering their nature as 'ILLUSORY'?
@KK-sg5gl
@KK-sg5gl 3 месяца назад
@@graememcgregor8407so aren’t you agreeing with me in that matter and time are real? But non duality speakers often refer to them as not real. And if I’m misunderstanding them, then I honestly think they need new analogies. Because like I mentioned, the ones they use seem like they often contradict themselves.
@graememcgregor8407
@graememcgregor8407 3 месяца назад
@@KK-sg5gl You will only feel it when you enter it. Then there is no time or space. But it cannot be explained and we still have to live in the 'PHYSICAL' world of both of those things, so why not consider them 'REAL' for practical everyday purposes? That was my point. You can't hit yourself in the head with a hammer and all will be OK because it is not 'REAL'. So let's play along with it and why talk about it? In this 'DIMENSION' they are 'REAL'. But that is not the true truth or the real reality.
@MaartendeJager
@MaartendeJager 4 месяца назад
It is an illusion because it is not what we are, but still important because its what we think we are. It is the Consciousness that creates, yet the created is in itself unconsciouss of it. So the importance of it is to become consciouss of this. Otherwise one is lost wandering off in this self retaining loop called creation. Which is there by grace of the individualisation, and so it will always be dual however controlled by the non dual. And so it always looks like its going to crumble but it never does. Its only the collapse of the wavefunction, the endless possibilities into that what takes place.
@micheledaniels8296
@micheledaniels8296 4 месяца назад
We are experiencing what we wanted. We made this "dream" when we acknowledge the Holy Spirit and start for-giving then it gets easier and peace becomes the number one experience and true awakening our goal. A course in miracles will help you do just that. It explains the what, how and when. It is a course on retraining the Mind for spirit and not an ego body...one is a concept made up, the other the truth of who you are. Blessed be❤❤❤
@gabic2174
@gabic2174 4 месяца назад
The physical world is not a illusion it's a dimension, there are many dimensions
@graememcgregor8407
@graememcgregor8407 3 месяца назад
Or there is ONE dimension and the limits of the human mind cannot see beyond the merest slither of it. Same as we cannot hear notes above and below a certain frequency or see colours outside a certain range.
@whatbringsmepeace
@whatbringsmepeace 4 месяца назад
Great question!
@julesjules5439
@julesjules5439 4 месяца назад
Advaita should not lead one to nihilism. People inclined towards apathy and nihilism will always find reasons to justify.
@ingeleurs5745
@ingeleurs5745 4 месяца назад
Beautifull ❤ the Truth
@citizenenak
@citizenenak 4 месяца назад
Is it an illusion that we feel pain? Yes and no. Depends on perspective because to take a perspective is to blind ones self from seeing another perspective. In short everything is an illusion and it isn't an illusion. It comes down to the purity of spirit. Purity is only meant in the mechanical sense. Like dead skin sloughing off a body to the healthy skin oxygenated and healthy. The further into the illusion you identify the further you go from conscious connection. Consciousness is a spectrum in the secondary sense like thoughts about thoughts. Thoughts about thoughts are all thoughts like everything is consciousness regardless of a level of awareness of itself.
@Saiyan29
@Saiyan29 4 месяца назад
Was the video “why am i still unhappy?” From May 29 webinar deleted? Or was it posted somewhere else?
@organist1982
@organist1982 4 месяца назад
I wondered the same thing, as I really wanted to see that one in particular!
@Saiyan29
@Saiyan29 4 месяца назад
@@organist1982 i watched it once and it was exactly how i was feeling and the video really resonated with me alot. But when i checked later it was gone. I do believe it was from 29 may webinar and on rupert’s website the latest video of a webinar is from February 6. So i guess i will have to wait 3 months for that.
@organist1982
@organist1982 4 месяца назад
@@Saiyan29 Hmm, ok, thanks. I'm glad you got to see it once, as I didn't.
@miket4092
@miket4092 4 месяца назад
I had linked it to a friend and so I checked the link after seeing this comment and sadly it is set to private. That was a good and important video. I do remember a bit of it if you want my quick summary.
@Vandermin011
@Vandermin011 4 месяца назад
Was that the video where a young lady is telling Rupert that she is not suffering , but also not feel happy? She seemed perplexed by her stagnancy or feelings of boredom. I believe the video ended with Rupert insisting that she should not underestimate the decrease of suffering in her life. To focus on that. It sort of went in circles, for her, where she appeared perplexed by her feelings of meh. It didn’t seem all that interesting considering how many other videos Rupert has on feelings of boredom that could be more illuminating.
@urgyenrangdrolable
@urgyenrangdrolable 4 месяца назад
I hope the Food was good at Castello di Titignano!
@bodhiheeren
@bodhiheeren 4 месяца назад
Finally a comment that actually makes sense!
@annikabirgittanordlander6887
@annikabirgittanordlander6887 4 месяца назад
”The feeling of Oneness, the feeling that, we share our being at the deepest level, not just with everyone, but with all animals and all things". Rupert Spira 🌎💕🕊🙏😘
@RajVerma-mt5tw
@RajVerma-mt5tw 4 месяца назад
Illusion is what when we feel or see it from the level of consciousness or as consciousness but when something that which is in relation with the finite mind becomes real, because being touched by the supreme consciousness however this still a play and this play would be as much serious till the match is on...
@siddhartha_1
@siddhartha_1 3 месяца назад
Reality is real, anything else is over thinking it.
@malabuha
@malabuha 4 месяца назад
To acknowledge the reality of another, you acknowledge your own being.
@larrymuana2260
@larrymuana2260 4 месяца назад
I like that perspective
@catiarodrigues8492
@catiarodrigues8492 4 месяца назад
Act on the cause, not on the effect.
@tommartin9612
@tommartin9612 4 месяца назад
Atoms cannot be destroyed or created so in reality we have never Harmed anything in this universe?
@youssefalaoui4286
@youssefalaoui4286 4 месяца назад
There are no atoms. The word “atom” refers to a set of particles. An atom is not a thing but rather a-bunch-of-things. But even those things cannot be qualified.
@youssefalaoui4286
@youssefalaoui4286 4 месяца назад
I like the idea you presented by the way. I think there is truth to it.
@hassantinoable
@hassantinoable 4 месяца назад
And yet…
@SuitedPup
@SuitedPup 4 месяца назад
Atoms can indeed be created and destroyed. They're created all the time in the centers of stars and are destroyed in processes like nuclear fission. There are many other examples as well. You may be thinking of the principle that "energy can neither be created nor destroyed," which is true in a closed system. However, as @youssefaloui4286 mentioned, there are no atoms, per se. Atoms (and all of their conceived constituents) are abstractions and simplified models of underlying processes involving fluctuations in quantum fields. According to our current understanding, these fields are the fundamental entities, not atoms. (No woo - this is mainstream, agreed upon scientific consensus). Of course, it may be that it’s turtles all the way down, and that these fields turn out to be “desktop icons” of a more fundamental ontology.
@bodhiheeren
@bodhiheeren 4 месяца назад
That's when advaita turns into intellectual games and downright nonsense. And if one should play this despicable game then I could be as smart as the other commentator and say: atoms are also just a product of the mind with no actual existence outside the limited human mind and it's limited senseperceptions. But I will much rather humbly try to avoid harming anyone and perhaps spreading a bit of joy.
@levlevin182
@levlevin182 4 месяца назад
Should we be sorry for the ill world? No! & Know. ILL-usion is not Well being. However, one must have compassion for others as they evolve.
@bodhiheeren
@bodhiheeren 4 месяца назад
Maybe we "should" not feel sorry for the ill world. Personally I can not imagine ever being in a state where I did not feel deeply for the suffering human kind keep putting our planet through. And definitely not wanting a state like that at all. And this probably where neo-advaita turns into nihilism
@MichaelDamianPHD
@MichaelDamianPHD 3 месяца назад
"the ravages of climate change" these people have so many delusions to get through
@moonglow6639
@moonglow6639 4 месяца назад
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
@danieleslava115
@danieleslava115 4 месяца назад
the body is the same stuff as the density
@FdR88
@FdR88 4 месяца назад
So, if the only thing that "is" is infinite consciousness, how is it possible for something finite, finite consciousness to be located "within" something that is infinite, is it not a contradiction? The finite cannot know or be located in the infinite. and vice versa On the other hand, could it be that the phenomenon we know as the big bang was the image of how the infinite consciousness was located or the moment in which the infinite consciousness was located in the finite consciousness? What would happen if the last human being disappeared? the dream of infinite consciousness would end
@MaartendeJager
@MaartendeJager 4 месяца назад
Simply by the thought of it. The mind narrows Consciousness, by dualising it. So what is one, having no beginning or end, becomes two with the appearance of a beginning and an end. The mind is the divider, the slicer.
@graememcgregor8407
@graememcgregor8407 4 месяца назад
Don't try to read the truth in his words. See where they are pointing. Words are only ever a pointer, the finger not the moon. It has to be explained somehow but the explanation will never suffice. Even to talk about infinite consciousness is never the true truth or the real reality, because we talk about it as if it were an external "thing". If it were that, it would not be one, could not be infinite consciousness. But we cannot talk about it as ourselves either, right? The Tao that can be spoken is not the true Tao. "It" can only be understood in silence, and even then...
@melissamiller2696
@melissamiller2696 4 месяца назад
Calling the world an illusion doesn't work for me. I think it is real. Just illusory. But not an illusion.
@graememcgregor8407
@graememcgregor8407 4 месяца назад
It's semantics, I'm afraid. If something is illusory then it is an illusion. Just as if something is real then it is reality. The world will always be exactly what it is, never want any of us choose to describe it as. Since we have to respect it as reality, why not consider it as reality? It's only words. We can't interact with it as an illusion, we can't change it with the power of our minds. So effectively it is real. We could then concentrate on more important things to wake us up.
@bodhiheeren
@bodhiheeren 4 месяца назад
Personally I find much more sense in the saying that "samsara is nirvana and nirvana is samsara". To say as Rupert Spira does that only nirvana is real seems to me to be monism and not non-duality.
@widipermono854
@widipermono854 4 месяца назад
🙏🙏🙏
@anthonykology1728
@anthonykology1728 3 месяца назад
mirage .. not what it appears
@Flying_Dutchman66
@Flying_Dutchman66 4 месяца назад
Oness.. you pay i play 😅
@danieleslava115
@danieleslava115 4 месяца назад
all densities are illusory
@bonnielincicome8055
@bonnielincicome8055 4 месяца назад
Hug a tree 🌳 or a skunk 🦨 no matter. 😅 *consequences in this scenario, lest your roll is pure 🔑
@bonnielincicome8055
@bonnielincicome8055 4 месяца назад
@Simply_Human-0 I am not sure what your reply means to you but wouldn’t be fine to me. Although, I will say that Shri Ramana Maharshi talked to the animals and reptiles alike.
@bonnielincicome8055
@bonnielincicome8055 4 месяца назад
@Simply_Human-0 I simply talk, Simply Human? But, I know nothing. I only know what interests me in books but it can’t be all a lie.
@bonnielincicome8055
@bonnielincicome8055 4 месяца назад
🥰
@bodhiheeren
@bodhiheeren 4 месяца назад
So you can walk through walls. A video of that would definitely make a splash on youtube.
@davidmickles5012
@davidmickles5012 4 месяца назад
This world is appearance within consciousness because consciousness manifests as this appearance
@troyortego4655
@troyortego4655 4 дня назад
Ya'll are missing the moment... and the magic of the universe...and... you're paying money for this "teaching" yes?
@Snappy27893
@Snappy27893 4 месяца назад
1st Viewer
@ANANDSINDHU10
@ANANDSINDHU10 4 месяца назад
Dont believe it real, but take it seriously.. 🤍👍🔆
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