The Impact of Creeds and Confession on the Christian Faith. 

The church starts with the reformers ??

I'm too busy studying the Bible.

@@davidlafleche1142 and not benefitting from those who have read it before you. Jehovah’s Witnesses are busily reading the Bible as well, as are myriad other sects and cults. Read the Bible WITH the church and not apart from it.

@@ByzantineCalvinist Apart from which church? I am working on my own commentary. I challenge anybody to judge my work. If I am wrong, I accept correction. If I am right, I refuse to be intimidated into cultic submission.

@@davidlafleche1142 but in writing your own commentary I would assume you are drawing on the many past interpreters of Scripture, such as Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Luther, Calvin, Wesley, &c. Reading them first might prevent you making the sorts of mistakes that would invite correction.

Does it need INTERPRETATION ???

@@bigtobacco1098 The bible was written for the common man. Even the Protestant Reformation gave this guideline that "Scripture interprets Scripture." Believers that are filled with the Holy Ghost have the best of abilities to study the bible and to teach accordingly.

@@approvedofGod that's why there's how many denominations ??? Cults ??

@@bigtobacco1098 True. When the Protestant Reformers broke away from Rome, there was a lot of stuff to clean up. Catholicism had deceived the world with a false gospel and multiple false doctrines for more than a thousand years. The Reformers made their move because they discovered that Rome was not following the bible. Thus, the first great work of the Reformers was to break away. It took years upon years to sort through the mess created by Rome. Denominations developed as men dug more and more into the Word of God and corrected some teaching that the previous Reformers overlooked. Where do you stand big tobacco?

@@bigtobacco1098 many denominations work together in the Body of Christ. The differing opinions on secondary/tertiary doctrines does not equate to disunity so long as the foundations of Christianity are held: That Jesus is God made flesh, lived a perfect life on earth, gave up His life on the cross in our place, rose 3 days later, and that Scripture being our authority and God’s Holy Word records this. Any disunity there are heresies. There were plenty of those long before the Reformation.

Does one need to read a book about alchemy to know that it isn't real?

@@ErwinMager many Protestants contest that statement and deny the entire concept of the harrowing of hell. Evangelicals in particular.

@@ErwinMager ok. So back to the original point. The church doesn't actually agree on creeds. So what's the point of having them?

@@ErwinMager and I gave the example of evangelical protestantism, a major body of Christians that disagree with the concept of the harrowing of hell of the apostles creed. Are you suggesting that evangelical protestants aren't part of the church?

And the Orthodox Church

The Church was one back then (not Roman Catholic). Today, its continuation is the Orthodox Church (since Rome introduced innovations and changes, even to the Creed, thus perverting the Faith). Take care.

@@andres.e.The East also introduced innovations such as mandatory veneration of icons at Second Nicea.

The creeds did not create that mess, they kept it from getting worse. Without the creeds, you get systems like Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses and much other unsound doctrine. What in the Nicene Creed do you find so objectionable?

Remember that the Creeds were a product of the early church Councils (of the Catholic/Orthodox Church), the Apostles Creed, and the Nicene Creed.

@@KingCatsTube But was the church already corrupted by 381 AD?

And if so, why do you hold to the teachings of Augustine, who established doctrines after that?

The Creeds come from the Catholic Church. There is only one Catholic Church. The great Ecumenical Creeds are Catholic, not Protestant because Protestant isn’t a church let alone THE Church, the pillar and ground of the Truth

Who's INTERPRETATION ??

@@bigtobacco1098 if you want to be told what it says I guess you could go with the creeds, unless you need some expert to interpret those for you as well.

@@Tyr1345 if you're not interested in the church Jesus started...

@@Tyr1345 how many different INTERPRETATIONS are there for the Bible ??

@@bigtobacco1098 Which church are you talking about?

Did the Bible just magically fall down from heaven or did men write it?

The Bible is man made bs

@@ereinei the Bible was inspired by God, the creeds weren't

There is one thing we know about "The Apostles Creed". It did not come from the Apostles of Christ. New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the first three questions below? Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the RU-vid videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

@@SpotterVideo you’re entire line of thought is actually a tradition of men. You cannot get away from tradition (“teaching”). To somehow deny “tradition of men” is to back into docetism which denies the humanity of Christ. Jesus was a man. Therefore what he taught is a “tradition of men”.

@@ereinei No.

In Luke 23:29-43 One of the criminals hanging with Jesus said to Him “ Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom” and Jesus said to him “Truly I say to you today you will be with Me in paradise.” John 19:30 When Jesus had received the sour wine He said “It is finished” and He bowed His head and gave up His Spirit. He became absent from the body, present with the Lord. These was not act Christ attended to in hell. His physical body which was in the grave - a tomb - was resurrected on the third day. The Greek is very clear on this

@@ErwinMager It is not in the writings of the Apostles found in the Bible.

When it comes to the Gospel there is no "new" truth: "Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people." Jude 3.

I don't know how many creeds there are but I know the Niciene, Athanasian and Apostle's creed are a reaffirmation of what our faith, what our beliefs are built on and my church recites at least one of those every week and usually associated w/ the confession and absolution of sins prior to taking communion. They don't stifle the personal growth, they strrengthen our foundation and succinctly announce to the world our beliefs. They re-center us and provide a reference point for when "new" ideologies or theories do come up, we can use the creeds as a quick measuring stick of sorts to see how well those news things align w/ the already established guidelines we were given by Jesus and the apostles.

A Jehovah witnesses, oneness Pentecostal, and Mormon would also say the same thing.

@@YourBoyJohnny94 that's their right to say. I'm not concerned if they say it or not.

You keep using those words. I don’t think they mean what you think they mean. (A little “Princess Bride” reference for ya)