I really liked that the brother was innocent. He was so idealistic it made it seem like he was putting it on, but it turned out he really was just a total upbeat idealist wanting to make things better. I love that!
You mentioned the mix of eras. I feel like what they're doing is Retrofuturism, that is what people thought the future would look like years ago. Like the 1950s films about "the home of tomorrow". It's a really interesting genre of art.
I thought the lava vomiting was hilarious only because I have chronic heart burn and when it is at its worst, it does feel like lava bubbling up your throat. So the idea that someone felt what I felt, and then turned it in to a super hero CRACKS ME UP SO MUCH.
They totally changed math. I’m 40 years old this year and about 10 years ago I was helping foster siblings with their math and the education system had changed to a different method for math.
Heck, they've changed math just in the time I was in school and made it so much more ridiculous. I took calculus in highschool Jr year and was confused by my cousin's kid's homework. I was _barely_ out of school. Idek want to know how they've changed stuff more. And for really basic stuff, too. One question I remember in specific... It was a 10x10 square with 40 blocks, or 4 rows of 10. The question just stated: write a math problem for this square. ...ok....? What do you want, though? 40+60=100? 10x4=40 to account for shaded squares, only? 100-40=60 leftover white squares? (10x10)=(10x6)+(10x4). Even within the context of the homework, it didn't make sense. It was a standalone question. But also, to be fair, my math teachers were always 50/50 on thinking I was cheating because I wouldn't do the work step for step unless doing proofs... So I probably learned "my own way" because there were easier ways to do things.
@Dularr doubt it. At least I can't see how. Same subject matter, just different methods. I was only in Calc because I was in the TAG (talented and gifted) program, which was one class in the entire city that was fast-tracked ahead a few years, or more focused stuff. Like... 6th-8th grade reading was different Shakespeare plays, mythology, poetry, etc, and a trip to see an outdoor Shakespeare play every year. Math was Algebra by 8th grade, so you could take Geometry freshman year, usually a sophomore-Jr class. My entire senior year was _supposed_ to be all AP and literal college classes you'd drive to the university for, but they tried to take back my double English credit Jr year (so I could get rid of all the necessary credits, 4 in reading/english) and had my entire schedule thrown out. So I more or less just... didn't go unless I liked the class. Got into every university I applied to, so I wasn't worried, just kinda mad with the school. As far as the math problem... it was an issue of not enough direction or context with what the rest of the homework piece was. Specificity is important, especially if you're trying to teach something with a visual tool. I remember those squares, and the directions used to be a lot clearer in terms of what they wanted out of you. Sometimes, it was the square as a whole. Sometimes, just the shaded part was important. Hence, either 4×10 or (4×10)+(6×10) both are technically acceptable depending on what the teacher actually wanted.
@@Dularr oh.. and our 8th grade math teacher seared the quadratic formula into our brains. "The opposite of b plus or minus the square root of b squared minus 4ac all over 2a." Wasn't that useful... maybe a little in trig.
Winston Deavor is voiced by Bob Odenkirk, and Dicker (in this movie) is voiced by Jonathan Banks, Bob's Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul costar. 12:27 Jack-Jack and Syndrome were up in the air when Jack-Jack started fighting back, so the rest of the family couldn't really tell what was going on, and Kari got mindwiped after Dicker interrogated her about what happened while the Parrs were away. (Though why Dicker didn't pass the info on to the Parrs afterwards...) 12:52 Part of it is probably what happened the last time he had to stop a train - the passengers sued him for damages, which helped bring about the anti-super law.
I absolutely love both of the Incredibles-movies. The music, the setting, the story, the voice acting...it´s all top notch. One thing in particular that I love about this movie is that the rich businessman (Winston Deavor) is NOT bad in any way. In fact, superheroes would still be illegal if it wasn´t for him. And considering the fact that just about every businessman in movies and shows for the last 50 years have been jerks at best and evil at worst, that really says something. Oh, and can we just appreciate the name Evelyn Deavor (Evil Endeavour), It´s such a brilliant name when you think about it.
As a parent trying to teach my kids math, Bob’s rage at “How could they change math? MATH IS MATH!” is the most relatable thing I’ve seen in a movie in recent times
It's happened way more recently than the 50's. I was born in 1960 and it's happened (more than once, I think) in my lifetime. It's more accurate to say that they way they teach math has changed than that the math has actually changed. Although some of the attempts to avoid making kids feel bad about not being great at math by simply accepting any answer as "correct" probably qualify as changing math. The fact is, elementary education is rather faddish. Someone will come up with a new idea for teaching something, a study will show that it's better (although the improvement is miniscule and often not statistically significant, and I question the criteria used to say it's "better" sometimes), and suddenly it becomes the hot new way to teach the subject. Meanwhile parents who are trying to help their kids with their homework are completely confused as they are seeing questions that don't make any sense to them. Even when the problems are straightforward enough the way the kids are being required to solve them often seem convoluted and counter-intuitive to parents who were taught an entirely different way to approach them.
Both of these films were way more 60's than 50's. Bird was born in 1957 so he would have been exposed to the 60's era for Marvel (Fantastic Four) and the very obvious James Bond influence of the first film. The cars and jet planes also suggest the 60's. Not a lot of personal jets around in th 50's. The only surprise (to me) was that he was Edna Mold.
I enjoyed both of these movies. The first movie was all around fantastic and entertaining, and the better of the two in my opinion. The second movie I didn't like as much, but Jak Jak hugely elevated the overall enjoyability of it. The baby was easily the MVP. The "fight" against the racoon had me dying the first time I saw it.
The problem is that the fight against the raccoon could easily have just been a short film -and as you say Jack Jack really is just the only really good thing about it. The main plot of the 2nd film is frankly a very poor return for a 13-14 year wait after Brad Bird's insistence that he wouldn't make it without a sufficiently great story to tell. Methinks Disney said "mek money or else" and that was that.
Diablo II reference let's go! Also, random fact, the flashing lights were a lot worse in theaters. When they released the movie to DVD/Blu-ray/digital they calmed them down a lot to not trigger epileptic seizures
13:30 One of the big things that The Incredibles movies do is the juxtaposition of the fantastic and the mundane, where ordinary problems are interleaved with extraordinary abilities, and extraordinary problems are put alongside ordinary abilities. Family arguments, school life, worrying that your spouse is cheating on you, trying to support your spouse in what they want to do even if that puts you in a difficult position, all right alongside superpowers. Giant robots, runaway trains, underground supervillain with a giant miner tank, while debating over driving directions, playing catch with your son, teamwork and creative thinking.
Ironically the sister makes some good points. She's like Lex Luthor and one of his biggest issues with Superman is how people will become too dependent on him
The thing I always think of with the darker tone and vibe here for the central conflict/villain, compared to the first film, is how much superhero movies changed in the intervening 14yrs - and how this really had to be a reaction to that. Nolan's Batman, the entire MCU... Was a different world back when the first Incredibles film was made! Gotta raise the stakes if you're doing superheroes now, even in a family-friendly animation.
Thought it was a very enjoyable film and a worthy sequel, even if the writing isn't quite as tight as the first film. My biggest issue is that the villain was very obvious. At least it was laugh out loud funny and had some very clever super-duels, like the quick battle between Violet and Voyd.
I doubt Owl Man ever had to hide. The villains brother said he called the heroes from around the world. In other countries, maybe Heroes were never illegal.
Shame after doing so well watching Jack Jack Attack with the first one you didn't notice that this one also had a short extra movie based around Edna and Jack Jack! I definitely don't prefer the second but it gets better every time I watch it. It's main problem is that Screenslaver just isn't as good a villain as Syndrome.
LOL I was actually drinking water right as the scene with Violet in the restaurant happened and I almost did the exact same thing from surprise-laughing 🤣
With the advanced age of the voice cast, a sequel would either have to happen extremely soon, or focus on the kids. But I'd be very curious to see that movie. What happens when the kids become a super team of their own? What are the sibling dynamics when the youngest sibling is also the most powerful? What hero name do they pick? The movies are called "The Incredibles" but there is never actually a team by that name in the story.
Having "Jonny Quest" and "The Outer Limits" showing on their TV would definitely set this in the early 1960s, unless they were watching sindicated eruns.
Great reaction, solid sequel, and props to Simone for use of the word "nifty". And yup, that's the great Bob Odenkirk. Cheers and Happy Weekend from the East Coast. 🥃👍✌❤
28:41 Fun fact: if you listen accurately the shooting noise of the emergency rocket pistol is the same sound of DC-17 blasters from Star Wars the Clone Wars final season and The Bad Batch
In the last scene of the first movie nobody could have watched Jack Jack deploy his powers for the first time, it was too far and they dont have super vision or something. From their perspective the car was the reason Syndrome got destroyed.
This movie was a very surreal experience. I had given up hope of a sequel after 5 years from the original and then after 14 years they finally released part 2. Felt like I was watching them in HD with the upgraded graphics. I sort of wish it was possible to "remaster" the original with the latest technology.
You guys pointed out that this movie was more adult. I totally agree. The first one was so popular, I'm wondering if they made this one more for the people who grew up over those 14 years and were excited for a sequel. I was one 🤩!
12:49 Don't forget, saving a train is the last thing Bob did before all of the lawsuits in the first film. Even though he loves his wife, it must sting a little to see someone else do the same thing as he did but much better and without the fallout afterwards.
Personally I still kinda like the 1st one a little bit more, but this 2nd one is still well done and a worthy sequel. Jack Jack's characters just added so much more comedic elements and humors into the movie, making it more enjoyable.
I have 3 under 8. You have no idea how much things can go from awesome to all out war in a matter of minutes I love them all so much but holy crap can they all become tyrants fast lol
The it's the 50s but also the future aesthetic owes a lot to the Batman the animated series from the 90s. They have the same Vibe. Everything seemed modern but at the same time everything seemed like it came from the twenties or thirties. I don't know if this movie was referencing that or they just had the same idea but it's kind of cool
The best part of this movie is definitely the children. I’ve read lots of comments about the villain not being compelling (ironic: Screenslaver). My problem with the development is that Helen betrays her essential character. She simply becomes a stretchy Bob. I suspect that they wanted a girl-boss angle, so they developed the plot around that, but in the process undercut the personalities established in the first film. Basically, I sit through it to watch the baby scenes. Too bad, it could have been great.
Oh wow, I never noticed a whole Saul Goodman and Mike Ehrmantraut voicing roles in this movie! And LMAO George 8:05 “I’m Elastigirl! I’m, y’know. . .” “THHHICK!” She absolutely is and we praise god for It every day.
Love this one! Pixar's animation is on a completely different level. Do you guys plan on watching the Toy Story movies at some point? Another suggestion I have: Tropa de Elite (Elite Squad in English). It's about the war on crime in Rio de Janeiro.
Don't forget, the timeline is set somewhere in the late 60's, early 70's. Watch the first movie again, check the cars, the furniture, the fashion. You get definite late 50's vibes, maybe early 60's when they married. With Violet being in her teens, that would mesh pretty perfectly. Not saying that Bob didn't want his wife to succeed, it was still just a very traditional role distribution for the timeline it was set in. So when he was trying to congratulate her he had to overcome his ingrained societal training, no matter how skewed it seems from our modern perspective.
I thought for sure you'd do the short film for this one too, "Auntie Edna". It's too short to be worth its own video even if you include "Mr. Incredible and Pals", which is another one from the first film. Maybe you should just do a whole video where you watch a bunch of different Pixar shorts.
You should react to deleted scenes. The one where they have a wake for heroes killed in first movie is more powerful and emotional even unfinished than this whole movie.
I remember i had gotten spoilers on this movie because i played the lego game, and it spoiled evertyhing but i wasnt that goof at english and i was not good at reading the subtibles so i didnt get evelins backstory but i got the fact that she was evil
Hope you watched the introduction where the actors explained about process to get the second movie made. ( and the theme songs for each in the end credits).
I'm not even that into The Incredibles but I clicked just because of the thumbnail🤣Please, please let the person who makes them know they are talented and have a rare wit.
9:58 Its called "Retromodern". It is the conception of the future that people had in the past. As to Bob's reaction to his wife's success, its called "mixed feelings". We are not very simple beings. It is possible to feel multiple conflicting emotions about the same thing. He seriously IS proud of Elastigirl's success, but also desperately wants to be out there saving the world. When on the phone with Helen he is careful to only express the first with his voice, while expressing the second with his face and body language. He really wants her to succeed so he and the kids can eventually be out there working as heroes, so he doesn't want to distract her with his negative feelings about the whole arrangement.
It's also worth noting that the film does take place in 1962. It's a small blink and you'll miss it moment but in the first film when Bob's looking at the newspaper and finds out that Gazerbeam's gone missing, you can see on the paper on the front page (facing away from bob) that it's Monday, May 16th, 1962.
30:35 if you noticed though that when Helen had Jack Jack even with the goggles on her maternal mind saw her baby and made her stop which gave Jack-Jack a chance to remove the goggles. To have a longer kid vs parent battle you would’ve had to have Jack-Jack somewhere else on the boat going after others and just have the two older kids go against their parents then Jack-Jack shows up to save them all.
If you like Jack Jack and Edna watch the two shorts they made First one is part of the First Incredibles movie and has to do with the babysitter called Jack Jack Attack and the second one is when Edna minds Jack Jack for mister Incredible in the second one and it's called Auntie Edna both are Incredible
