The India Pattern Brown Bess and the HEIC F-Pattern Musket: Firepower 

There is so little information out there on the P39. Thank you, Rob, for filling in this missing link in the history of British military arms.

Yet another example of your quality work. Replete with detail, but not pedantic, well balanced with live example and use of period illustrations as well as current references. Thank you again!

Brilliant stuff as always, Rob! Thanks for your hard work and its a pleasure to support you even through a disgraceful business like Patreon.

Excellent explanation! It also explains why one of my 1853 enfields is a.75 bore and has a simple notch type rear sight. The old gal must be a victory of spare parts and recycling. Its an enfield made for the EIC (rampant lion) one of 3 that I’ve bought over the years. The other 2 were normal second patterns also made for the EIC.

Fun fact: When the queen had first chartered the EIC in the year of 1600, it was named the "Governor and merchants from London trading into the east indies" After the revolution of 1689, the company had to be reorganised effectively as the revolt had caused sever economic problems for the shareholders. When all the companies had united by 1708, it had been renamed to the 'Valiant Company', but had formed the United East India company by 1709, and was then officially (from 1709 to its end by 1873) to the Honourable East India Company Source: Sahib, the British soldier in India

Rob, thank you so much for this video. I have always had this gap in my knowledge regarding the transition from the flintlock to the percussion system in the British Army. This fills it up and then some. Also I must congratulate you on the images used to illustrate the subject, all relevant. Other content creators should take note.

Good afternoon from Syracuse NY USA brother thank you for sharing history of the British Army

No McKenzie intro? What happened to him, did the sergeant finally kill him??? 😢

I have originals of both of these in my collection. Its heaven to see examples taken for a stroll around your amazingly beautiful wilderness range. Cheers Rob n keep on firing!

What a great video. I just got my India pattern brown bess, and I was digging for information but not until I discovered this video and all my questions has been answered. Thank you.

Green shirt BritishMuzzleLoaders has returned. Nature is healing.

Excellent presentation as usual. Thanks, Rob.

Hazzar hazzar hazzar hazzar Another excellent informative quality content you dapper gent Now as a re enactor Indian pattern flint lock is what I mostly used , watching this I could smell and taste the powder brought back epic times thank you Bestest from Scotland

Great presentation rob as usual!

Another excellent presentation. Thanks Rob

Your demonstrations are fantastic, thanks 😊

Thanks for the video. Love your presentation by the way.

Thank you for an informative and insightful presentation.

Thank you, Rob!

Excellent video.

Brilliant video

Thanks again mate

Outstanding video covering the transition from Flintlock to Percussion.

Greetings from the sunny south Okanagan sir, thanks for another well produced and educational video. Have a great spring out west and do try to stay cool.

Great video... so much info on this forgotten transitional phase

Another great video.

Always enjoyable and educational.many thanks from nz,

You've earned a subscriber sir. Entertaining, educational and phwoar! Look at that scenery! I must book a holiday to Canada sometime soon.

I got your new video after a long time. Thank you very much

Love to see new episodes from you, always so informative

Great video Rob. Nice to see the F Type HEIC musket barking. I so miss mine even if it went to a good home. Thank you. FWIW I found the rear sight very useful. If the front sight just appears in the little slot then it is set for 50 yards. If it appears above the slot then 100 yards and if level with the horns then about 140 yards. I used 8 grams of Vectan Musket Powder. I suspect that, if one aimed just above a notional shako on a man then the level with horn setting might just do for 200 yards.

Glorious stache sir.

this channel is so informative

Must admit I was never into the older weapons until I found your vids dam good stuff sir

Very intersting Mr. Rob to have the flint lock AND the percussion musket in a back to back comparison. I see, so there is not much of a difference in landed shots on the paper between the two. So, in taking my flintlock to the range next morning. I shall NOT be too sore in the camparsion that I just witnessed. Thank you Sir.

An excellent video indeed. Huzzah!

Great video, as always. I would another benefit of the percussion cap is less smoke and sparks in a persons face when firing. I was surprised at how easy the fired cap was removed before loading the next round. I would interested in seeing how much of a difference the loading time would be when a bayonet is mounted on the musket.

That was fun and interesting. TBH, I didn't expect a significant change in firepower but there's no substitute for actually doing the work to find out.

Awesome.

He’s back!

From a history nut 1 great gem of a video with my 2 big toes 4 thumbs up

Thank you for giving the HEIC Pattern muskets some love, maybe a series on the Pattern A thru F with the subtle changes in design in the future?

I like this channel.

I do like the look of the New Land Pattern!

For bird shooting the percussion cap was a big thing, because it reduced the time between pulling the trigger and actually firing (though the best quality flintlocks were apparently comparable). Shooting a musket at a static target, or (in real war) one coming directly towards you, you wouldn't expect a huge advantage really.

Good video

I need an hour long asmr video of you just marching and handling your firearms. Can’t get enough of it.

Excellent

Percussion was indeed a great leap, for the flintlock when fired multiple time can cause fouling on the mechanism that would lead to a misfire.

Well I have gone and done it, and signed up Mountain man

Such a great looking rifle

Great videos again, shooting is important but if you go for for hunting in winter and badley youy fall dawn in the snow or you walk in summer in raining days for 3 days, believe me fire cap will be the winner gun, thanks again.

I got to fire a brown bess at 100 yards man it was heavy never had a chance to hit the target lol

I'm loving your mixed battle dress uniform!!! Just dont let the Sergeant catch you

A fantastic presentation about the arms that bridged the relatively less well-known period between flintlock smoothbores to rifled muskets. I'm curious though: As you've frequently dressed in uniforms contemporary to the weapons presented in the videos, would you acquire a uniform specifically from the years the percussion muskets saw active service? Actually, now that I think about it, the full dress trousers and shirt combination that you already have i think looks good enough for the period. And maybe the greatcoat in colder weather.

As a true Indian, When I heard the your 1857, My brain was screaming "Vande Mataram" BTW Happy Republic day for all Indians! सत्यमेव जयते ||

This channel exposed me to a new fascination, keep up the great work my friend.

You should do a video on some of the arms of the native Indian forces in service to the crown at the time. I hear there where a lt of odd things like smooth bore P-58 enfields and Martini-Henery rifles converted to only use shotgun ammunition.

Hi there, do you have any information on how to fold a Victorian great coat. I can't find anything about how to fold them, great content, keep it up.

I did not know they tinkered with percussion conversions of the Brown Bess, always assumed percussion was introduced with the Pattern 51.

I'd always wondered what the Brits used between the Brown Bess and the P51. Seems like a substantial gap that isn't talked about much.

You would also have to think that transport of caps around the different areas in the empire would take up a lot less space then transport of flints would.

Love my Bess and can compare it to my 1842 Springfield.

Great content as usual Rob

Firing a smoothbore with an under sized paper patch round ball is much akin to bowling. 0~o Sometimes you find the pins, and sometimes you find the gutter. >~

Greetings. Please tell us about the wood plating in East India Company Percussion Musket Pattern F? I bought one for restoration

Hmm, is that Obadiah Hakeswill on sentry duty at 4:20?

I know very little about this but, it appears to me, that a cap produces much less smoke and flame which would be useful during repeated firing.

The delay between trigger and firing seems much shorter for the cap and ball gun. I assume thatd increase practical accuracy.

Now, that’s WHAT I call a true ASSAULT WEAPON with affixed bayonet and trained line !!!

Question: are fulminate caps better than flintlock in wet weather? Ive shot an Enfield in the West of Scotland in the pissing rain on many occasions and never had an issue with the cap system. Re issuing of cap guns over flint: 1st Opium War, fought in the notoriously humid in that part of the world, spring snd summer, (cap issue) versus the flints issued to the 44th in Elphy Bey's army in arid, cold Afghanistan? Was the Board of Ordinance that organised to ensure the caps went to the Chinese expedition? (Were the Crapauds using caps at this point? If not then perhaps the issue of caps to the Chinese Expedition was designed to either embarass... or keep up with? The Frenchies?) (General Sir Harry Flashman VC, is silent on this subject in his memoirs of both campaigns)

A rib down the barrel of the India Pattern, as on a modern shotgun, might have improved aim. On the other hand, your shots wide right and wide left would've just hit the soldier standing next to your target, so why bother? As always, an illuminating and entertaining presentation!

Did you know that units of the 40th and 12th RoF were still armed with P1842 Muskets when they attacked the Eureka Stockade in Australia in December 1854!?

Forgive me if a previous video has gone into greater detail about this. I just checked the bayonet section of your "India Pattern Brown Bess: Intro" but how does the bayonet of the earlier brown bess remain so stable? It's just a friction fit, and a lug with a maze-like channel. I wouldn't think that would be enough to keep it so secure.

In the Battle of Plattsburgh, 1814, Captain Matthey introduce his self-priming system to the Brown Bess. Unfortunately, he didn't fire any shoots in the battle. When I search his book for the system's design, the free online version only shows the section of the pan, missing the other parts of self-priming system. I hope someone can reproduce Matthey's self-priming system, and test whether or not his claim about reliable firing is true... Capt Matthey, Material Improvements on Fire Arms, Particularly the Common Musket. (Lymington, 1812).

3:30 Nope, will not pardon the pun on the grounds that puns require no apology in the first place 😉

I have always wondered how much percussion muskets did he British use compared to flintlocks during the First Opium War.

Teehee you said 🐓😆

wow didn't know the brown bess lasted that long as a British military arm / please help me out but didn't the Arthur Wellesy held the military back from getting improved weapons? / didn't the British sell a bunch of brown bess muskets to Mexico when they didn't need them anymore?

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Sharpe's musket, what hey?

Jacob´s rifle, when ?

AUSPICIO REGIS AT SENATUS ANGLIAE

Rob going by most of what i've heard on the east india company, honorable shouldn't be within 10 time zones of it!!!

It sounds so odd to hear that a rifle had only TWO grooves !

04:51 That private in the middle looks to be about 15/16 judging by his height.Probably newly enlisted at the time.

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I always wondered in England where those guns were made from. If someone wanted to buy a reproduction over there. Would that be a firearm Certificate or a shotgun Certificate? Since it's a smooth bore, I know. You can't shoot single round ball under a Shocking Certificate, they only can do buckshot.

Why did british never adopt a self-priming system?

For the life of me, I can’t figure out what “HEIC F” stands for.

A certain popular television series? Sir, I will take no ill comments towards Lt. Col. Richard Sharpe and his methods! No, I kid. "Bite, pour, spit, tap" was nonsense.