another hot take here that some people can probably relate to - Is the indian american (desi) community toxic? What do you guys think? Hot Takes - PopShift
toxicity is when asian indian parents, schools teach jealousy instead of growing together. when the competition becomes so obsessive and always that's the case even out of competitive event and life overall that's toxicity
@@rickrobinson174 you only make friends with someone with whom you fell a connection……If your friend is a bully there is definitely something wrong with you
sorry, but I have to agree with the first guy 100%. and I thank him for addressing it. seriously, I couldn't make friends with that many indian American friends in my community, because they realized how "non-competitive" I was, and they thought it was lame, and distanced me. in my school they were so-called friends, but they were just opportunistic people who competed against each other and called that "fun". competition is not toxic, but bringing Indian Americans together calling them "family" and "United together", when really there's just cheap opportunistic and competition amongst them, THAT is toxic for sure. yes it was tough for our parents to get to this country, yeah but that's the problem. the parents and grandparents who struggled to get to the US, made their entire life about competition to get to the US, but then they force that shit on us and tell us that life is nothing but a race and you can't just be in the present. they pressure us to get high societal status, doesn't matter how much stress or pressure it puts on us, that we're always being compared to some other kid and the parents cannot just have a solid good relationship with the kids. there's a lot of trauma for immigrant families in the last 100 years, but the solution to that is not to just pass it down to your future generations and always keep them competitive and stressed 24/7 and putting societal status first.
YOU don't know what you're talking about..he's referring to the creative field..many people of their own nationality always work with one another in this field..we don't cause of this "competitive" mindset..thats one of the things that are keeping us far behind
@@ahmedhashmi3258 far behind ??? Bro we are doing the best. Its always been due to competition. All business people are super competetive and only competitive people win. Jealousy and competition is different.
I feel like he has a good point that a lot of us are not willing to come to terms with and a lot of it is just very deeply ingrained in our personality and a little bit of an outside perspective is nice sometimes
The people agreeing on IND American community toxic ..shame on you ...that is called competition.....if u don't support your own community no one else will ....if there is any wrong in our community try to get solutions rather complaining....your parents or your grand parents entry into USA is not easy ... there will always be competition among anyone....nobody will lay red carpet to your life
Ever tried living on a different country,it's all fun and games on your country but when your people come to America for better opportunities they show their true colours I will agree that Indians are very kind within their own community but they can never be a trustworthy foe with other races and communities Toxic assholes
Competitiveness is fine but there are many kids who get no love at home and are pressured into going into fields they don’t want. Yes they go on to make good money but alot of them are miserable. The reason they need arranged marriages is because they have no emotional intelligence to actually find love themselves because all they were forced to do was study and get good grades. It’s not as black and white and i wouldn’t say the whole community but a good portion especially the uneducated community forces their kids to go into fields they dint want to in hopes that they will lift the whole family out of poverty
Competition gets toxic after sometimes Doesn't stay healthy in the long run .It's very few ppl who are Competitive keep it healthy ,remain friends in the long run .
@@033future I agree people here are very cold if they don't see you worthy status is what matters here the most. Everyone is jealous of everyone nobody can be trusted hence never make friends with people who are overly competitive especially in india.
@@033futurecompetition while working jobs has never ever been healthy and it never will be, don't treat business related competition as same as sports
I can see a lot of comments stating that "its called competition" and thats because that is what they're taught in India, to compete! and not to grow togather.
Womp womp growing together isn't gonna work either try to get top or lose your way because this is what white people made our country and we are following it
Healthy competition is good. You need to talk in reality.All this we should grow together so stop exams and grading because people feel bad that they get low marks do nothing is absolute trash talking..
My dynamic to this is that Indian American are not actually Indians but full fledged Americans. Since ironically identity is a thing that will stick to you for the rest of your life, when they get disapproved by Americans who hate them they tried to call India but India hates westerners mindset, our religion, culture, living methods, logic forming, moralistic viewpoint everything is different than these guys so they just try to perceive india from their point of view and meddle woth indian affairs amd calk them names, criticize India on many things online, label themselves as indians and then make fun of how Indians live of their gods to feed into that slave mentality. Idk maybe these is why they are perceived as toxic, since their views always clash with Indians and westerners don't accept them. They be saying dil sei hindustani even if I'm NRI but dude be walking half naked with nail polish and a bra and making woke comments, or some of them just can't handle indian culture so they act unruly which doesn't end up well, so yeah they are only in the name Indians. This quote ironically defines them well: Dhobi ka kutta na ghar ka na ghat ka. Obviously no hate but take it with grain of salt, reality is gray either accept it as it is or view it from your viewpoint that can be used for self validation.
There is reason why in traditional Indian spirituality the goal is to overcome the ego and be freed from it. Indian Americans embrace the Ego since that's what Americans value the most. The result is toxicity or narcissism.
Actually he is right. Toxicity is everywhere and just because you are an INDIAN doesn't mean you are pure like honey and milk. 😂 So yeah it doesn't matter which race you are indian Americans or whatever, toxicity is there in every person. Even the indian Americans have toxicity just like other races. So let not hype up indians all the time. As an indian i accept and welcome other races too and they too have their own talent and brilliance just like how other indian Americans have. Dont be so judgemental and indian Americans must know how to come out of that SUPERIORITY complex thing. Because whatever goes around comes back around. Nothing is set on stone. Jo chiz mila hai inko ek din inse sab chin b liya ja sakta hai. Thats the law of universe. 😊❤ Stay grateful and allow other races to feel that Superior as well because they too deserve it. No one is superior than others. None. We are all one consciousness
we honestly don't give af about each other unless there's something we can get or gain from someone...I grew up in Tampa and literally don't know or have tight connections with anyone of Desi origin...we just don't get along.
Glad you said truth even indians can't see each others succeed that's the reason british found it so easy to rule on us everything is about arrogance of competition.
As an Indian, I'm agree with his opinion. In India, people always believe that they're superior than western communities & their culture. But in reality many foreign countries like US, UAE, Europe, etc are far ahead of India in case of development, education & much more. Many indian people in comment section getting offended by his opinion & are giving some shitty replies,for them I want to say 'Stop these cultural discrimination grow your mindset'.
Many Non white content creators face similar competition from their own races and have pointed out the same stuff he said, It is common to be pressured in the internet for existing in the same platform as them? Hear what the last person said. Hope you are not offended by this reply but understand its natural to face such pressure from others. Whether be it work or internet, everyone faces some sort of push and its just how strong you are to believe in your followers and not let them down, and keep moving forward. Its called competition and its totally justifiable.
Ya looted for 1000 year's and control by Congress for 45 year's through proxy control and u want development in 20 years when they looted india for 200 years and stole Indian ideas from every aspect maths science and technology and implementation of English language india helps the world if shit hits the fan Europe will bomb u😂😂
What is UAE ahead in ??? Giving lashes??😂 they are just attracting talented Indians and importing talent... when you see their real society and law, you realise that they are LIVING IN MIDDLE AGES. They change laws for the rich because they are Hypocrites. Ronaldo can live with his gf in Dubai...Can an average person do that? No
Bro graduated in Broconomics. Indians are competitive as hell. You can’t stand out in 1.4 billion people if you are not competitive. Your friends won’t help you for ever and you have to fight your own battles than expecting everyone to drop their life and help you.
Competition is only good if it is healthy and not interfering with your relationship with that person. But some people take it too far and drag people down or put others below them.
@@Fish-ey9lt for ypur information! We have really good ethics of competition. Sharing goals & competiting is one way in india our friendship strengthens. U get to grow together, learn together. It doesn't mean looking down on your friend or anybody. We indians know how strengthen relationships through growing together.
I didn’t know that ABCDs still exist in the Indian community in US. I thought kids these days are smarter with more internet access. PS: for people who are to young to know what ABCD is it’s American Born Confused Desi.
You miss the important self awareness aspect of it all. EVERY COMMUNITY HAS PEOPLE THAT ARE TOXIC. INCLUDING EACH INDIVIDUALS OWN ETHNICITY COMMUNITY. HUMANS ALWAYS HAVE MOODS CONSTANTLY SHIFTING. EVEN YOU EACH READING THIS HAVE AT MANY OCCASSIONS ACTED TOXIC YOURSELF. HUMANS AS A WHOLE, ARE IMPERFECT LIKE THIS SO MUCH SO, THEY ARE PERFECTLY IMPERFECT.
The last guy was right. These comments just prove it. Instead of trying to understand what they said, everyone is just making fun of them and calling it competition. Things are slowly changing, but using South Asians as the butt of the joke and nothing more was acceptable for a long time. Most people commenting are also either non indian or had a good upbringing as an indian american. Thats not the majority experience. Plus, the caste system still affects modern indian diaspora as well. To sum it up, Indians still have a colonisation and assimilation mindset. They'd rather inegrate into western culture than find other Indians to share kinship with. Dare I say, it may be to impress americans, namely rich caucasian ones. Its the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about. Oh and how strict and vindictive most indian parents are.
I don't know if Indian American are toxic, but in my school in India we don't do toxic competition. It's still true that we lack in proper manners. Sorry.
Honestly, Competitive spirit is what got India to this level or else we would never have broken from our poverty after colonisation. Its something to feel proud of. In fact i beat myself several times that I'm not Competitive enough. I would have achieved a lot more in life if i was more Competitive and jealous of others in a good way.
You mean working for Indian companies that make you work in a group to achieve goals? You’re still collaborating with others and working towards a goal…just that you’re getting paid for it..
Don't give up , you will find supportive people everywhere. this behaviour is probably more accurate in the "pool of content creators" rather than in any ethnic group.
There is no single Desi community - It’s divided and not unified like Vietnamese or Chinese or Pinay or Korean - there is NO Indian community - it’s Telgu society, Gujjus and their samaj, Punjabis stick to their group, the stinky Juddis are Khalistanis, Muslims have their own Sunni Shia and so on. Divided fragmented and not a cohesive force as a group. In contrast we excel as individuals.
As an Indian, I'm agree with his opinion. In India, people always believe that they're superior than western communities & their culture. But in reality many foreign countries like US, UAE, Europe, etc are far ahead of India in case of development, education & much more. Many indian people in comment section getting offended by his opinion & are giving some shitty replies,for them I want to say 'Stop these cultural discrimination grow your mindset'.
@@shayanraj7840 They are still owned by western investors. And they don't give a shit about being indian they are there to make money and hold power not promoting india.
Not really. I live in a neighborhood where its mostly indians and middle easterns. They're amazing i feel safe here. They teach me about their culture. And i started to cover my body more😅😂
I think this is commentary on also, the crab bucket mentality that all cannot eat at the same time. And it is an adverse effect of being in a post colonized nation. However, I do believe there are some intrinsic qualities within the south east Asian culture that landed self to debate and competitiveness as another viewer commented. So I believe that it can be both, and but Indian people are not a monolith. Some of them also support agent in Southeast Asian creators in a very overt way, so I think it just depends.
I grew up in an Indian community and for years black people were not accepted in the community either to live work or walk through I saw a black guy walking through but on the public road and he was scared. I'm older now and it has changed very little. I do not know what Cast I'm from but Indians seem to know from the time they see and given the opportunity they will insult you and I have no idea what the insult is about except they were enjoying it. In Rawanda Hutus killed Tuties and they can recognize each other although both are of the black race In India the Cast system has distroyed Indian. Although India has a long history century's older than most countries it will not make it in the world scene because you will need everyone not just that higher Cast alone. Why you'll never make it. You had century's to do it but you couldn't it remains the same. Again I'm an Indian all my family history shows that my grandparents and parents after leaving India many years ago left their culture name national identity behind and I'm so happy about it
That is right I'm from India and I'm telling you that😂😂😂😂 I don't know how the kids who are born here don't feel that most probably 5% or 10 person or 15% I got a headlight on Indian people I'm not kidding I'm Indian white mother and Indian father grew up in India when I came over here and all of them support me
I work on construction,to be more exactly painting , most indu people wants extrs stuff done for free ,they don't ask nice more like demanding while looking down to you .
