TIER 1: Accessible Industrial 1:48 Nine Inch Nails Skinny Puppy Ministry Rammstein Rob Zombie Marilyn Manson KMFDM Swans TIER 2: Club Industrial 4:20 :wumpscut: Front Line Assembly Suicide Commando Nitzer Ebb Front 242 Aesthetic Perfection And One Covenant Combichrist TIER 3: Expansive Industrial 6:42 Death Grips Clipping JPEGmafia Dälek The Beatnigs Alien Sex Fiend Health Atari Teenage Riot Machine Girl Youth Code Psychic Tv Maenad Vale Coil Techno Animal Zonal TIER 4: Aggressive Industrial 19:30 Godflesh Author & Punisher Nailbomb Street Sects Big Black B L A C K I E Black Hand Path Panic DHH VoidDweller The Shizit TIER 5: Nightmare Industrial 27:34 Lingua Ignota The Body MZ. 412 Trepaneringsritualen Diamanda Galás The Haxan Cloak Warning TIER 6: True Industrial 35:40 Throbbing Gristle Einstürzende Neubauten Whitehouse Zev Suicide SPK Nurse with Wound Current 93 Cromagnon Pierre Schaeffer TIER 7: Death Industrial 45:25 Brighter Death Now The Grey Wolves Genocide Organ Deathpile Ramleh Atrax Morgue
My honorable mentions Killing Joke OhGr Motionless In White Bachxwash Ho99o9 Die Krupps Daughters The Young Gods Thorns (the band) Pitchshifter Iperyt Show Me the Body Saul Williams Scorn (the band) Smegma (the band) Test Dept The Residents Xiu Xiu Black Mass Caroliner (the band) Jk Flesh Yves Tumor Andy Stott Ben Frost Vatican Shadow The Buttress (Neofolk) Death In June NON aka Boyd Rice Laibach Of The Wand and The Moon Kiss The Anus of a Black Cat (Nu Metal) Fear Factory Static X 3Teeth (Djent aka Math Metal) (They in to Progressive Metal and they sound like industrial metal music) Meshuggah Car Bomb Periphery SikTh Cloudkicker Tesseract (the band) (Cyber Metal) Sybreed …And Oceans Khonsu (Trap Metal) $uicideboy$ Ghostemane Scarlxrd Prxjek Lil Darkie (Digital Hardcore) Alec Empire Christoph De Babalon The Mad Capsule Rabbit Junk (Speedcore) (& It a Breakcore sound like industrial music) The Quick Brown Fox Diabarha Nasenbluten (Splittercore/Terrorcore) (& It a Breakcore sound like industrial music) Passenger of Sh*t ScreamerClauz (Power Noise) Esplendor Geométrico Pan Sonic Dreamcrusher (Witch House) Alice Glass Salem Sidewalks and Skeletons (Death Industrial aka Dark Noise) Sutcliffe Jügend Prurient Gnaw Their Tongues Controlled Bleeding Hair Police (the band) And More That It
And One More my honorable mentions too (Martial Industrial) ROME (the band) Les Joyaux de la Princesse In Slaughter Natives Der Blutharsch And That It Is Over
I mean he could go on and on, just like I can, its music! And yes Triarii is awesome definitely support them, Die Weisse Rosse would probably fit on that list as well. Forget Von Throstal and Arditi though. Triarri does it better without the political BS.
@@patrickbertlein4626 Martial Industrial is a direct predecessor of neofolk, which is linked to the original industrial music. For that it is a major offshoot of the original concept. I would also include John Cage’s audio experiment as the proto industrial music.
@@Mister_5150 I only have watched her recently (past two years) and enjoyed her newer stuff. She's very unique and I imagine her older content had a charm that may have been lost along the way
@@hypnovertigo7200 she has this collab with nightmind that was really good, I was more use to that content. I think I tried to look for her channel again & got confused. Her new content is too glammy for me if you understand what I’m saying.
@@hypnovertigo7200 She honestly comes off as very edgy tryhard to me with the oh I'm so dark and corky attitude. Since then I lost interest in her, I liked her older stuff, because it was unique with the robot and everything.
I definitely agree with KMFDM being a great gateway band. The 90s albums are fantastic. They also have a good mix of both guitar/riff oriented songs and more synth/drum machine oriented songs
Love the Strawberry Switchblade shirt! I really like industrial music, more of the goth and metal variety, so I got a few new recommendations and few reminders to check out. Still, can I define industrial music? heck no. Also the close connection neofolk and industrial seem to have is interesting.
void dweller also need more recognition a good ep of their would be the war on christmas and you can find it on youtube and oh yeah void dweller have a youtube channel
There's a sub category worth checking out called "Power Noise". It's basically heavily distorted rhythms & elements of noise to create this intense experience. Acts to check out would be Converter, Winterkalte, W.A.S.T.E., Monokrom, Asche & Noisex. Also pretty much anything on ant-zen records, hive, hands & hymen records. This subgenre doesn't get much discussion since the heydays of the scene kinda died around 2010 but damn is it worth driving in to.
"True industrial" needs to include Maurizio Bianchi, massive influence on all the industrial/death ambient in Italy, the Mauthausen Orchestra, Atrax Morgue, Morder Machine, Sodality, Ain Soph...etc
I totally agree with you. Maurizio Bianchi has always defined the boundaries and variety of electronic music for me. A man who can make the Holocaust somewhat comprehensible through the sheer claustrophobic brutality of sound and then go make some of the most complex and beautiful ambient music I've ever heard is truly the cutting edge imo. His variety amazes me with every album.
i feel like it's the only one with a big scene because of the mood and atmosphere it creates, and not because it's structurally similar like Wyatt said. there's a big overlap with gothic rock, industrial, alternative, ebm, trip hop, black metal etc.
@@lostangel17 cause goth clubs usually have two sections. The more aggressive electronic and industrial section made for the riveters (Rivet Heads), cybergoths, steampunk that are more modern and the old school goth, darkwave, alternative, deathrock and post-punk styles
you know you're gonna be into deepshit when you have Skinny Puppy and early Swans at the top of the iceberg PS. I would want to plug P.H.O.B.O.S. from france, industrial with a mix of blackened doom metal and experimental electronics, easily would fit between tier 4 and 5
I'm quite surprised neither oomph! nor die krupps weren't on here, like maybe around tier 2, 3 or maybe 4. They both started out as a mixture of ebm and industrial metal and are major influences for rammstein. Lot of people would argue fear factory should be here if we are at it.
The most pissed off Aggressive industrial record that Broadrick ever made was "disconnected" by greymachine( JKB and aaron turner from isis), makes godflesh sound tame.
Greymachine is great and one of the few interesting things Turner has done, but no it hardly makes Godflesh lame. Its more Noise Sludge though akin to Khanate and even Trees.
@@patrickbertlein4626 Did I say lame? I said tame, would never say lame as Wyatt knows from where we've spoken before godflesh are my all time fave band would never say anything so blasphemous.
I'm still a fan of the aggrotech/industrial bands from the early 2000s. Dawn of Ashes is still going strong and their sound has changed over the years, but are going back to the industrial sound (Mick Kenney from Anaal Nathrakh has produced and played guitar on a couple of their albums). Still listen to Psyclon Nine, not sure if Nero managed to get off drugs or not yet, hopefully they'll put out more stuff. Still love NIN since my teens in the 90s too. 3TEETH is easily accessible and are pretty good too.
Im so happy you mentioned voiddweller they are very underatted . Also if your interested there's this industrial hip hop called tokyo deathwatch, there the most extreme industrial hip hop group mixing it with harsh noise
Atrax Morgue is one of the most disturbing thing that someone can actually listen to. I dare anyone to listen to any of his records, sitting in the dark, with this music playing in your headphones, and not feel some kind of straight anxiety or utter discomfort. This guy truly captured these raw, strange and deranging emotions into his records.
Also, Suicide is very much an American analogue of Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle. They were doing the same goddamn thing at the same goddamn time (you could argue that DEVO was doing it as well… they’ve got tapes from the early 70s that were just as out there). I love Suicide and I’m a staunch defender of Martin Rev’s first solo LP. I think it’s a masterpiece of ambient techno that, while maybe y’all don’t like it, was clearly influential on folks like Richard D. James, Stefan Betke and Wolfgang Voigt. It’s SO GOOD!!
This is fucking awesome! Industrial is probably my favourite genre (COIL4EVA) and you did it justice here. Also, your channel in general is amazing and pretty much got me listening to black metal again after years away. Keep it up, dude!
Coil are probably my favourite band of all time. Just such a wide variety of sounds and styles all executed wonderfully. Requiescat in pace Jhonn and Peter…
Thank you so much for this video! I awlays liked industrial/electronic elements in metal (Blacklodge, Mysticum, Iperyt, Godflesh) or Califonian rhymic noise project W.A.S.T.E., but I didn't know, how to start to explore this genre in its entirety, so you helped me a lot. EDIT: Wumpscut, Front Line Assembly and Scorn are awesome!
Neubauten was possibly the weirdest band I’ve ever heard. Also, pretty sure it’s pronounced “ein stur zein (the e is pronounced like how it is in the word (eye) noi bow ten”.
You could have a whole Tier dedicated to Cold Meat Industry and it would be appropriate. The Atrax Morgue at the very end was surprising, as it's difficult to hear anyone out side of obscure death industrial blog spots long gone today to ever mention anything of that crazy gay Italian genius psycho. Ever since he influenced my music creation... People(the mundane regular folk) have really amped up the disdain and disgust in ANYTHING I've put out since. A blessing in disguise. And also the Coil love in the middle of the video... immediate subscriber type content, dude.
@@wyattxhim it's a unique label because of all the different types of sub-genres of industrial AND the creator of it works with some of the projects as well. Roger Karmanik. Alongside his own project, Brighter Death Now. (I Have to say this: CMI's Raison d'être's early releases sound like Monk dark ambient/industrial, it's like apocalyptic dark ambient with monks chanting... it's oddly satisfying once you acquire a taste for such atmospheric and dark landscapes... I think is best experienced behind basic life tasks, the way you have to listen and appreciate it the most is by trying not to listen. It does something to your neuron activity and something flicks a switch and you become hooked to these weird religious like soundscapes, Prospectus I)
Good video! But I feel that in the "pure industrial" tier you missed out on futurist music - things like this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IC3KMbSkYNI.html . That's arguably one of the oldest things that somehow still fits our present-day idea of industrial music
Another strong recommendation for death industrial: Schloss Tegal. Their album "The Grand Guignol" is one of the most nightmarish, bleak and depressive albums I know of
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the band Static-X in the Accessible Industrial tier, given that they're often brought up alongside Rob Zombie, Rammstein and the like, or Pitchshifter in Aggressive Industrial, since they were active during the same time that Godflesh and Ministry were doing their thing. I was hoping to see bands and projects like Celldweller, Blue Stahli, Scorngrain, Turmion Katilot, Neurotech, Fear of Domination, Deathstars, Shade Empire, T3CHN0PH0B14, and The Kovenant, to name a few, brought up in this video, but then again, despite often being labelled as industrial metal, they honestly lean more towards cyber metal despite their industrial influences. That aside, I'd like to bring up Dodheimsgard and Evelyn for those who are interested in hearing experimental black metal projects that utilize a lot of industrial elements in their music, and though this project isn't industrial, I still think it's worth mentioning Gonemage, who make what is essentially black metal in chiptune form.
I agree, plus with bands like Circle of Dust and Rabbit Junk. But I guess there's only so much he can talk about the more 'lighthearted' or 'accessible' stuff, being that the main subject of these iceberg vids are the more disturbing/underground music acts
I would have used the term metal industrial over aggressive but that is just me. All industrial is aggressive man! Accessible I would add Gravity Kills, but I would DEFINITELY not have Swans on the list next to KMFDM! Club you got to have VNV Nation and Apotygma Berzerk. In the industrial metal list Crawl, Skrew (members of NIN and Zombie), and Cold World is mandatory. Love the Death Industrial list a lot of my favorite bands. Also I would add a black industrial tier and move MZ 412 on that, adding Empire Auriga and Nagelfar. Add En Nihil to death industrial as well! Oh man and Terror Cell Unit but they are quite different. I can't help but keep adding to this...not even sure where I would include Sanctum and Burial Hex but some of my favorite shirt. Also Dark Ambient should be on here, Desiderii Marginis, raison d'etre, and more. Awesome Switchblade shirt! Always enjoy your videos, and obviously adding my thoughts to them! Also had to add a cool story of my goth days. Rudy from Wumpscut DJ'd a club night in Norfolk, this was probably 2001. Dalek is a great industrial hip hop group highly recommend!
You hit the nail on the head with how u described Atrax Morgue. I first discovered him on RU-vid years ago when I was still in high school and was mesmerized by that stuff; still am lol
Im honestly surprised by how many of these I knew and had albums of. I would mention Curse of the Golden Vampire maybe around tier 3 or 4 although you had already mentioned alec empire and justin broadrick work. It's so good. Also ground zero around tier 3. Very sample heavy with guitar and turntable work. This iceberg ruled!
Kluster’s album “Klopfzeichen” would’ve fit perfectly in true industrial, Throbbing Gristle owe a lot of their career to them & this is some chilling shit. The fact it came out in 1970 is insane.
Thank you for this as I’m quite behind on your stuff because I’m taking every artist literal in exploring. Each being another one of the over 1000 bookmarked so when it’s a familiar face’s discography its finally beating procrastinating. Thank you 🙏 again and for the Maenad Veyl introduction upon starting the xhim journey! Another artist worth everyone’s time whose a part of the “tr00” type I don’t see get enough recognition is Test Dept. Strapping Young Lad too. And Type O Negative has honourable industrial moments.
Lot of (figurative and literal) beard-stroking going on there dude..! But I have to admit, you do know your stuff and have clearly put a lot of time and effort into that... obviously people can & will always say you missed or this that band/artist (particularly from your bottom tier), but you have done a pretty thorough job there of covering a lot of ground in a useful way. Definitely some acts there I am not familiar with and will want to check out. BTW that Warning album you show at 34.35 includes a song which was covered by Pungent Stench in '93... Also FWIW musique concrète has quite a simple definition in principle, being the opposite of "abstract" music (which exists first as notation on the page and cannot be heard until someone plays it) - Schaeffer's key concept was to create music inseparable from actual sound... 👍
I want a post metal iceberg ngl. Thank you for making these, so entertaining. Its rare i learn something new from a video like this but you pull that off a lot!
A band I like quite a bit used a shopping cart as an instrument, among other objects. I like older Ministry and KMFDM quite a bit. I tend to like industrial and metal mixed,like Red Harvest, who was influenced by Ministry. I also think Clock DVA is pretty good.
You should do a power electronics or power violence discussion video! I've always been interested in the genre but no idea where to even start and you seem to know a good amount about it.
I saw Tool VIP 2nd row center January 2020, just before the pandemic. Author and Punisher opened for them. The bass was so loud it was uncomfortable. Like it was almost in the realms of danger music
I have a great deal of love for Current 93's early industrial material, particularly Dogs Blood Rising. "Raio no Terrasu (Jesus Wept)" is just such a wild concatenation of sounds. Genuinely horrific stuff.
@@NeroAngelo616 Their late stuff is also great. Don't get it twisted. It just appeals to slightly different sensibilities for me, although the same animating principle is there (quite literally).
@@NeroAngelo616 I mean, it's fine if you don't like their later work, but you don't have to be a weird jerk about other people having different tastes from you.
Thanks for the great video! I have always been a fan of KMFDM, Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, Machine Girl and Atari Teenage Riot but I had never heard of 'Death Industrial' before. It is safe to say that I have fallen down a rabbit hole and I have been listening to a lot of Atrax Morgue since watching this.
Maaaaan, great video. Cheers for including Big Black. I totally agree with you on them. I missed Laibach and Foetus, but you can't name 'em all and you made me discover many cool acts. :D
Just a few more: Haus Arafna, MLWTTKK, Punish Yourself, Cyanotic, Wumpscutt, Android Lust, Unter Null, Uberbyte, Non, This Morn Omina, Yelworc, Vomito Negro. Sorry I just don't have the time to categorize them. BTW, great discussion.
Yes this is a BIG one for early industrial and I just found out about them a couple years ago, when I got a chance to see them. They are one of those bands that at the time are a massive influence, but people just forgot.
Having been creating industrial music and production for a while now I'll add that 1 stylistic thing of industrial is that it has a machine like sound. Like a factory or tools. Its got a machine like flow to it, as well as all the experimentation and stuff. Its such a massive genre and its one of my all time favorites.
I didn't expect you to mention Pierre Scheaffer. Him, Luigi Russolo, futurists/bruitists were the forefathers of not only noise, but electronic music overall.
I have the Einstürzende Neubauten logo tattooed on my arm. There has never been a more expansive, innovative and at the same time consistent group, and there will probably never be
finally one sane comment. And also where is Cabaret voltaire, Monte Cazazo, William Seward Burroughs, Esplendor Geometrico, Merzbow, Test Dept, Laibach, Controlled bleeeding???
Yea thats what I was into when I wrote Cyberpunk: Front Line Assembly Cut Rate Box Neuromance Alien Vampires Im ...iffy about God Module. I dont know what happened, but apparently theres some lore.
One hidden gem that a lot of people don’t know is severed heads. They’ve kind of rejected being labeled industrial, but their early albums, like since the accident, city slab horror, clean, and come visit the big bigot (though the latter is just somewhat influenced by industrial, I still love it), definitely are industrial. The story behind that and their band name is actually that they were pretending to be industrial (they basically didn’t take themselves very seriously and were playing around with stuff like trying to name things in the most terrible way possible and stuff), and then their album “since the accident” got a lot more popular than their previous stuff so now people knew them as severed heads and they kinda had to stick with that name despite absolutely hating it. They were a huge influence on skinny puppy actually, members of skinny puppy said in an interview that he (Tom Ellard, the guy behind this band, and yes this is one of those one person bands) taught them a lot about electronic music, about sampling, and about how everything can be used as a drum beat. They actually got severed heads to be on their label for some time. Idk with how popular (for good reason, I love their music so much) skinny puppy is, I think it’s kinda sad how few people know about severed heads. I’d recommend them especially if you are looking for a more electronic band that often has this sort of fake-ironically-cheerful thing going on and then contrasts that with darker more industrial sounds, or if you really like the more “accessible” or danceable electro-industrial and you kinda want to listen to something somewhat weirder, but in a different way that, say, throbbing gristle is weird.
fantastic job on this, impressive. really happy with some of the inclusions I think most would overlook, like stretching Big Black in there - agree! got some great recs too.
Head of David is an interesting case. I suspect they were aiming for the accessible Industrial Rock tier, but were two years too early. Their interpretation of this style takes on Sludge, Stoner Doom, HC Punk and Noise Rock influences. JK Broadtrick was briefly part of the band. To me, the Cubanate tune Body Burn sounds a lot like Head of David mixing Metal guitars with EBM/Industrial beats. Cubanate is another interesting combo for the Club or Expansive Industrial tier. I recommend this new album by Blush Response: ru-vid.com/group/OLAK5uy_kPrprYj-T_X1MNu9_R1UxZBovzTrmYJAA&si=RTjl5o7WD-QlWlCm Top notch IDM and Industrial Techno with two features from Cubanate vocalist Marc Heal. The whole Industrial Techno angle was pretty lacking in the video.
Thank you so much for this video. I've been wanting more of detailed explanations with historical contexts about industrial music. I've listened to most of artists/bands you mentioned in death Industrial, accessible industrial and aggressive industrial. I checked out Panic DHH, Void Dweller and some mentions from club industrial after this video. I admit that I don't know industrial music very well and your insights helped me to understand what makes an artist/band industrial little better although I'm still confused about it as before. At least, I'm starting to understand it.
JPEG cites Throbbing Gristle as inspo, or at least fw them heavy. Veteran and everything beforehand definitely have an "Industrial approach" to Trap music and They still approach it that way here and there, but obviously branched out to an even more expanded reach of genres since AMHAC P.S. been very curious of your opinion on Machine Girl
Kinda surprised you didn't mention Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music" (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PB1cEyy0fKs.html). He recorded it by tuning guitars to the same note and placed them in front of their amps, so the feedback was "playing" the guitars. That has to be at least L6 (True Industrial).
Don’t forget B L A C K I E and Dälek who are both direct influences on Death Grips sound…like they almost straight jacked it and their predecessors deserve more recognition
Something I tend to get a kick out of is that whenever I watch videos that discuss things like industrial, I always get this ad for the "skull shaver".
Industrial is such a deep rabbit hole… one day you just figured out Razed in Black is so catchy but few months later you are sitting mesmerized by some weid japanoise artist.
In regards to Peggy, I think he said in the Nardwar interview that he is very influenced by Throbbing Gristle, so I guess the industrial label is not that far fetched
Please forgive me but I’m high as a kite watching this video and genocide organ just sent me into a full blown panic attack from laughing at the name 😂 great band such a silly name though
Industrial music is Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire, Primitive Calculators, SPK, Test Dept., Swans, DAF and Eiensterzende Neubauten (sic! Haha). Everything else is a derivative of these originators…
Industrial rock was its own deal and it started with ‘NAG NAG NAG’ and ‘No Escape’. Not sure if Albini or Jorgensen ever heard those tracks, but the Cabs definitely laid that foundation. These songs became the foundation for SYNTH PUNK as well. Skinny Puppy was obviously more influenced by Kraftwerk, Gary Numan and Depeche Mode rather than SPK and Throbbing Gristle. Sure, they heard ‘Red Mecca’. That’s obvious due to Ogre’s vocals. Not trying to denigrate them or diminish their influence in the goth-industrial scene, but they’re more of a dance/EDM act like Front 242, Trisomie 21 or Severed Heads (some of those bands developed that sound along each other…. Who’s to say what came first?). Was ‘Leichenshrei’ the first Techno Indistrial album? Did SP take that sound and turn it into a pop album (Remission)??? But weren’t the Severed Heads and the Cabs already turning their harsh experimental noise into pop songs in the early 80s? And wasn’t Depeche Mode introducing those elements into their songs and into the pop charts in 1981??? You’ll go in circles trying to figure out how Cabaret Voltaire turned into Rammstein….
Really enjoyed this video, I always get a bunch of great music when you do these so thanks. What do you think about making a Noise iceberg next? Idk if you're into Noise enough to make one but i'd like one for sure.
