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The Insanity of Jordan Peterson 

Brian Holdsworth
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Let me quickly start off by saying that I often enjoy listening to Jordan Peterson, especially when he intellectually undresses audacious journalists who think that reciting ideological slogans is enough to corner someone like Peterson into submission.
But with all there is to admire with Dr. Peterson, when push comes to shove, he often proves that whatever his beliefs are, they ultimately aren’t a big improvement on the post moderns he routinely denounces.
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@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 9 дней назад
Thanks for watching. Just a couple clarifications. Some have claimed that Peterson never said what I claimed he said and that it's some kind of made up meme. Unfortunately, I was quoting him verbatim: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C2CuAVAERjs.html. Also, I'm not saying Peterson is insane. In fact, I specifically say that the kind of skepticism he employs has much in common with the mind of an insane person, but in his case and that of skeptics, it isn't sincere insanity - just a convenient way of avoiding reality. Thanks for watching. Please consider supporting the channel by visiting: brianholdsworth.locals.com/ or brianholdsworth.ca/support
@AN1Guitarman
@AN1Guitarman 9 дней назад
Of course you pulled that clip out of context. you completely misunderstand his entire body of work. Why he is approaching these questions in a very particular way and why approaching these questions that way has become very profound. You're not necessarily among bad company as many have clipped that out of context because it does sound ridiculous on its face, but those that understand what his approach is, get why he leveled that kind of skepticism to that particular question. That understanding can be drawn from the clip itself if you're paying attention, which I don't think you really are. Your video comes across as very rambling, the points you make aren't very cohesive, and it seems like you're in a spirit of attacking Dr. Peterson and trying to find something to disagree with him about and that points me to the assumption that this is one of very few clips about him that you have seen. I know it looks like I'm making a pretty big leap in assumption, but I just find so much lacking with your arguments in this video that I don't find in your other videos, and the inflammatory way you have worded this title says that this is not in good spirit. And yes, your title literally says "the insanity of Jordan Peterson" so you are clearly saying that Peterson is insane, so that part of your comment here is an outright lie. You should own your own words. So I feel very safe in my assumption that this was meant as an attack video rather than a thoughtful discussion. Now, if you're not being dishonest, I would implore you to look far deeper into his work, especially maps of meaning, at the very least on a somewhat surface level by going through his classes that are also available on his RU-vid channel. And then see the multiple different times he's been asked that question and the truth will be easily assembled from that, and you will understand why he worded it this way in that clip. He is getting to the bottom of an extremely important understanding of the nature of God Himself, and how we as humans have misconception Him, which has spawned a whole host of these atheistic and "evil God, problem" type claims. And I think it is an incredibly important endeavor that he is embarking on and requires the level of skepticism that he is applying in order for his journey to be successful. I too have been thinking about this problem very deeply, in one line of though I've been trying to understand why so many people (including myself) don't get the term "fear of God is the beginning of wisdom" where in a human sense, that sounds like "we have to obey a tyrant or else" which I would call now in my early thinking about this concept, "humanizing God", which is a mistake, obviously. But when that term "fear of God..." is brought into full context of the nature of God. It makes way more sense and the way that the people throughout the Bible spoke of natural forces and active God becomes more transparent and understandable. The best example, though I don't think it's a great one yet, is maybe how people of the time would have argued that the concept of gravity is the sky getting revenge on you, you throw a rock up at the sky it's going to throw it right back at you, or some sort of conceptualization of natural forces like that, and God is the being that is natural forces as such. Hopefully that analogy is close enough that it makes sense what I'm getting it. But I digress.. Until you're addressing Jordan Peterson's claims at least on that kind of level, I don't think you have the understanding, nor the proper wherewithal to criticize him accurately. I welcome criticisms of Peterson, but I welcome accurate well thought out criticisms that actually reflect that you know what he's trying to get at and can actually add to the discussion, not distract from or bash people for trying to do their best with their God-given talents to praise Him and share Him with the world. This video is not that. tl;dr - this video is an absolute fail, I think you should delete it and take a few years of research before you try it again.
@ld2906
@ld2906 9 дней назад
100% agree with your constructive, candid and long overdue critique of Jordan Peterson's dichotomous danse. Furthermore, the truth hurts but ought never to, more than God permits. Context is every-thing. And is therefore limited, phenomenologically speaking.
@ld2906
@ld2906 9 дней назад
​@@AN1GuitarmanI disagree. Wholeheartedly and right mindedly.
@AN1Guitarman
@AN1Guitarman 9 дней назад
@@ld2906 it would benefit us both if you were actually descriptive of why and/or how you disagree. Or just be honest, and say you just don’t like Jordan Peterson, which is fine and valid, but be honest.
@ld2906
@ld2906 9 дней назад
​​@@AN1Guitarman My apologies. I was somewhat abrupt in my earnestness. I think Jordan Peterson is a Godsend. Truly. There is much to learn from him, however, when all is said and done and in the presence of the unerring keenness of divine justice, his disposition to truth is limited. Consequently his orientation is inconstant and his inclination, neurotic. We would do well to extend mercy where mercy is most legitimately due, never forgetting it falls to the Church militant to always make error apparent, most especially those errors embedded in a subtlety of complication, and exquisite reasoning. It is her duty, in so doing, to illuminate the hearts and minds of the faithful and alert humanity to the dangers inherent in the shortfalls of, at the very least, incomplete thinking, which is perhaps even born of willful denial. Put more gently and kindly, "seek ye the kingdom of heaven first..." and ... your masculinity, embedded in your identity, amongst all things, will follow. Beware the falacious grizzlings of neo conservatism and the 'rough-tuff-cream puffness' of neo-stoicism. In truth; only gentlemen qualify for the privilege to compete for the refinement of excellence, in the interests of sub-creativity. Good will, the gentleman's fulcrum, is antithetical to dominance. From it proceeds action tempered by charity. It apprehends complementarity and the essence of exchange. It leads to the understanding that any school of thought that pivots on the theory of evolution is destined to cannibalism, to the conflation of domination with dominion, of winning with saving, and of sacrifice with victimisation. Men of good will, who seek truth for the sake of truth alone, find it untenable to hold fast to the delusion that nature is the cypher by which one may comprehend God. Furthermore; honest, good men know their limitations and the difference between mysticism, and pseudo mysticism.
@PaulAlbert-fj2ov
@PaulAlbert-fj2ov 2 дня назад
*Larry Burkett's book on "Giving and Tithing"* drew me closer to God and helped my spirituality. 2020 was a year I literally lived it. I cashed in my life savings and gave it all away. My total giving amounted to 40,000 dollars. Everyone thought I was delusional. Today, 1 receive 85,000 dollars every two months. I have a property in Calabasas, CA, and travel a lot. God has promoted me more than once and opened doors for me to live beyond my dreams. God kept to his promises to and for me
@Grant2Keisha
@Grant2Keisha 2 дня назад
There's wonder working power in following Kingdom principles on giving and tithing. Hallelujah!
@Suuuzzyyy
@Suuuzzyyy 2 дня назад
But then, how do you get all that in that period of time? What is it you do please, mind sharing?
@PaulAlbert-fj2ov
@PaulAlbert-fj2ov 2 дня назад
It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
@PaulAlbert-fj2ov
@PaulAlbert-fj2ov 2 дня назад
And thanks to my co-worker (Michael) who suggested Ms Susan Jane Christy
@Griselle544
@Griselle544 2 дня назад
How can I start this digital market, any guidelines and how can I reach out to her?
@cfban
@cfban 9 дней назад
Being a seeker is pointless if you never really intend to find anything.
@midnight_77
@midnight_77 9 дней назад
This exactly.
@kevinkelly2162
@kevinkelly2162 9 дней назад
If people keep turning up to find out how far along you are in your search and those people are paying you, then I think he has found what he was looking for.
@Freedom_is_better_than_safety
@Freedom_is_better_than_safety 9 дней назад
I disagree that he’s done this for money and I disagree that he’s seeking without truly intending to find. I think for some, coming to a conclusion based on blind faith is akin to insanity. They need to know something that they can feel isn’t just a trick of the senses. If you’ve ever thought you were in love for the first time then you remember how you felt when you found real love. You felt silly to think you allowed your senses to be fooled. So you test everything you think you feel, and you question it as if the world is out to trick you. Only then you begin to trust it. Testing your built in love for God is different. You feel it since birth and you want to make sure it’s not just a trick of the senses so you have to look at life and love and history and the human condition. That’s when God makes sense, and at the same time we’re so used to worthy of His love that it seems to be a gift we’re trying to earn. We test miracles by their fruits and I’ve seen Dr Peterson bring far more people, especially young men, to a better way of life and to God, because that’s the next logical step.
@kevinkelly2162
@kevinkelly2162 8 дней назад
@@Freedom_is_better_than_safety Like Peterson you make unfounded assumptions then spout nonsense over them.
@popebenedict7615
@popebenedict7615 7 дней назад
That is brilliant! I'll borrow that
@reinedire7872
@reinedire7872 9 дней назад
There seem to be an awful lot of JBP fan boys with hurt feelings in the comments section. Guys, not only is JBP not above criticism, but he's a big boy and he can handle it as well. I like JBP, but this is a valid critique. That certainly doesn't mean I won't listen to him anymore. Both he and Brian have much to offer. Friendly reminder: it's ok to critique and disagree!
@Lorena2m
@Lorena2m 6 дней назад
personality cult!
@Greg400
@Greg400 3 дня назад
I stopped listening to Jordan Peterson when he said that if he ate anything other than aged lamb meat he'd be incapacitated for a month.
@aaronmills7731
@aaronmills7731 17 часов назад
Take it easy. It’s not helpful to denigrate Peterson fans. The man happens to have changed the lives of countless people. Also, the fellow in this video utterly missed Petersons reasons for speaking the way he does.
@seanmurphy7011
@seanmurphy7011 9 дней назад
I don't think Peterson knows what he believes and he knows it. That is what he is trying to figure out.
@pinnitt
@pinnitt 9 дней назад
Peterson is a Freemason so he certainly believes in a god but not the Christian one
@1960taylor
@1960taylor 9 дней назад
Wrong, he knows exactly what he believes.
@bradleymarshall5489
@bradleymarshall5489 9 дней назад
I don't think he's trying. I went to a talk of his last year and didn't hear him say a single thing I hadn't heard him say years before he became famous
@rebeccadanvers884
@rebeccadanvers884 9 дней назад
I stopped listening to Peterson because he looks confused. Too much reasoning and thinking is leading him up the neuroticism path.
@dalelerette206
@dalelerette206 9 дней назад
Have you considered Saint Thomas Aquinas balanced with G. k. Chesterton? We are all reflections of Christ. But only Jesus Christ was True God and True Man. Skepticism taken to the extreme eventually leads you to doubt you even exist. Since nothing can be empirically verified, at some point we are left with faith, hope and charity in the things we cherish. Our experiences are like a hypostatic union of our senses shared with God's divine senses. God's miracles are when He shares His Holy Soul' Sense through you by the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. ❤
@marygr8064
@marygr8064 9 дней назад
I’m afraid that Peterson, who simply can’t make up his own mind about the Truth, is talking himself out of relevance. For my part, I’m moving on.
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Peterson is a gatekeeper for Jewish interests federations not Catholic Christian that’s why he is so confusing
@tammyschilling5362
@tammyschilling5362 9 дней назад
Yes, exactly. He drives me nuts with this stuff. If he doesn't want to talk about it, I think that is perfectly valid. I actually don't think that famous people should work out their faith journey publicly (letting a zillion people with no skin in the game put their oar into your life is crazy), but the way he calls into question the questioner is not only dishonest but invites that tactic to be used with literally every question.
@loveandmercy9664
@loveandmercy9664 9 дней назад
Malcolm Muggeridge was very similar. He didn't convert until almost his death bed.
@Fatima_Garabandal2251
@Fatima_Garabandal2251 6 дней назад
Exactly, it is as bad as the "so what you're saying is..." tactic
@xaviervelascosuarez
@xaviervelascosuarez День назад
I think he just feels uncomfortable because the quaint questioners may come across as someone trying to woo him to sign with their team.
@libertasinveritas3198
@libertasinveritas3198 9 дней назад
Peterson stated in an interview with Alex O'Connor that he believes the resurrection of Christ to be a historical fact. His answer as to why he doesn't officially convert to Christianity was that "he is someone on the side lines". That's basically saying he doesn't want to be categorized to have a broader audience. That's intellectual dishonesty and I sadly cannot respect that.
@tatianasouza2361
@tatianasouza2361 7 дней назад
His wife converted. Let’s pray for Dr. Peterson so he can be granted the necessary graces to lead him back to Christ.
@Colddirector
@Colddirector 6 дней назад
I don't like the man and never have, but I'm trying not to be too mean when I say that the coma probably damaged his brain. Back in the day, he could at least make somewhat cogent arguments (even if he still devolved into word salad a lot) in a kind and grandfatherly way. Nowadays, he's pretty much completely incoherent and mean spirited.
@lglge611
@lglge611 6 дней назад
I'm in awe of how many entitled people there is in the comment section. How many of you "christians" brought someone to Christ by living properly by Christ's demands? Millions people claim that Peterson changed their life and revealed them Bible and Christ. Jordan Peterson is better christian and catholic than many cardinals as far as I'm concerned. "By their fruits you shall recognize them"
@whitevortex8323
@whitevortex8323 6 дней назад
I don't think he wants a broader audience per se, but yeah, he doesn't like categorisations.
@grasfarmrs2004
@grasfarmrs2004 6 дней назад
I found that comment very sad. It seems by it that he is intentionally excluding himself from the Church and by extension, Christ and his offer of salvation.
@Churchmilitant67
@Churchmilitant67 9 дней назад
Bravo, you hit the nail on the head, skeptics are only skeptical when it suits them.
@Wuldrian
@Wuldrian 9 дней назад
In Jordan's case, he privileges the question of belief in God over any and all other questions since it is referring to the most profound thing. In this sense, he isn't necessarily trying to weasel away from the question, though it may appear as such, but rather clarify the parameters of the question with surgical caution and precision. The reason for this, I believe, is that Jordan considers the 100% probability that he will utter the words: “Yes, I do believe in God,” and then proceed thereafter at some point to act in a way that contradicts the statement; i.e. sin, to be contradictory, which it obviously is. Christianity is of course way ahead of Jordan in this regard however, as it acknowledges all of us to be born in sin. So what is the gateway out of this glaring contradiction? AKA the Jordan Peterson Hesitation Problem - ((how can sinners be Christian?) *Confession.* The solution that Jordan Peterson is searching for, or the bridge that connects sinful, contradictory man with outspoken belief in God, is confession and reconciliation with God. In this sense, it is not so much that Jordan Peterson is wrong to hold himself so accountable for his sinful nature that he dares not say aloud he believes in God, but that he is overlooking the gift of Confession that God gave us that allows us to love him, outspokenly, in spite of our contradictory and sinful nature.
@ld2906
@ld2906 9 дней назад
Confession. That is true, however, confession is but preparation before the leap of faith that avails men of wings of grace that transports them across the abyss of human perception, separating the physical from the corporeal realm, and all that lies beyond.
@bradleymarshall5489
@bradleymarshall5489 9 дней назад
the problem is anytime he talks about God it doesn't even remotely resemble what Aquinas and others mean by God. I don't think it's about precision I think he just wants to believe what fits with his ideology.
@jovelineollero4609
@jovelineollero4609 7 дней назад
This is the most sincere understanding of Jordan's stance in Christianity.
@michellekomadina9878
@michellekomadina9878 6 дней назад
If we all waited to be perfect before following Christ we would never start at all. I agree with your statement completely. It is pride to think of oneself as not good enough to commit. It’s humility that acknowledges personal sin and weaknesses and follows anyway. Of course we’re not good enough. That’s the whole point! Jesus our Lord and Saviour makes up for all our faults. We just confess and move on and never dwell on our sins or faults but acknowledge that yes we are so imperfect and in need of God.
@Greg400
@Greg400 3 дня назад
I think you have put more thought into Jordan Peterson's convictions than he ever has.
@peter-pi8bc
@peter-pi8bc 9 дней назад
Jordan Peterson has become too full of himself because of his high personal profile: he therefore claims authority outside his speciality as a psychologist.
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Jordan Peterson is Jewish not Christian Catholic
@diana-wilde
@diana-wilde 9 дней назад
I agree with you. He has way too much pride. What is wrong with saying "I don't know at the moment, I'm still trying to figure it out". Plain, straightforward and honest.
@lglge611
@lglge611 6 дней назад
Would you say that for Jesus because He never answered directly if He is a God?
@lglge611
@lglge611 6 дней назад
It saddens me how many catholic pharisees are here... Truly sad. If you could only thank to Lord for such brave man of integrity and wisdom who helped many to find God... But no..
@basedoppenheimer1497
@basedoppenheimer1497 4 дня назад
@@lglge611 He did answer directly that He is God. When Jesus said to the Pharisees, "Verily verily, I say to you, before Abraham, was 'I Am'", and after that the Pharisees attempted to stone him. The only justification a Pharisee would ever want to stone you are two ways: 1. You violated the Decalogue. 2. Blasphemy The pharisees thought Jesus committed number 2 so Jesus did say He is God. Just because He didn't phrase it like you want it to doesn't take away how He meant by 'I Am.'
@lglge611
@lglge611 4 дня назад
@@basedoppenheimer1497 i agree, but Jesus had many chances to say directly "Yes I'm your God , worship me" but He didn't. Muslim point out just that to refute Jesus' divinity. Which is stupid. So I find this situation similar. Many modern pharisees want direct YES or NO answer from Jordan, and they do not care about substance.
@basedoppenheimer1497
@basedoppenheimer1497 4 дня назад
​@@lglge611 ​You can't compare Peterson to Christ on this matter because Christ has given signs He is God, Peterson just sounds dishonest and gibberish when confronted with the question. To truly compare to Christ, Peterson would answer "I am seeking earnestly and struggling to serve that Person" or "I would need to think more about it" or "I contemplate divinity in a parish." Instead he is like "wHat dO yOu mEan bY "dO"? wHaT dO yOu mEaN bY "yOu?" It's stupid and to say Christ did this to the apostles is blasphemous and heretical. "But Christ didn't say "I am God worship Me!" He said "I am The Way, The Truth and Life, no one comes to The Father except through Me" which is answering them. Peterson isn't doing that he is dodging. "wEll wHat dO yOu mEan bY bEliVe??" Give me a break. 😂
@Btn1136
@Btn1136 9 дней назад
I don’t understand why he didn’t follow his wife into the church after her surviving cancer and claiming a Marian miracle.
@michaelirish1445
@michaelirish1445 9 дней назад
It’s plausible that he is now but prefers to not be labeled. Given that has been a concern for a long time and that many may throw out the baby with the bath water as many would dismiss him and simply put him in a Catholic box, only for Catholics.
@bradleymarshall5489
@bradleymarshall5489 9 дней назад
he's too attached to his ideology. God desires the heart, soul, and mind of the believer and those are things JP isn't willing to give up
@renaissanceman18133
@renaissanceman18133 9 дней назад
I don’t understand either. It’s really disappointing.
@damianwhite504
@damianwhite504 9 дней назад
Here is a thought, maybe he didn't want to. Jordon Peterson's beliefs are his business. This catholic obsession that everyone must become catholic and come home is very annoying and very arrogant.
@ngamashaka4894
@ngamashaka4894 8 дней назад
@@michaelirish1445 He reach a lot more people that way and it is Ok . Matthew 10:16 (King James Version): "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."
@Valerius123
@Valerius123 9 дней назад
It reminds me of people who are afraid to commit to an idea or take a position because they're afraid they might be wrong and look foolish.
@ld2906
@ld2906 9 дней назад
The measurement problem invariably leads to Cartesianism. Jordan Peterson is spiritually hangry because of his academically plagued intellectualism. Let us be charitable and perhaps reserve judgement regarding his intentions. One might, for example, say he is "addicted" to phenomanilism because of the (his) perceived value of it, to a world that asks no deep questions and doesn'tknow how to. The windmills of his own mind may, on the other hand, provide a comfort zone, except that, 'the hound of heaven' is unrelenting in terms of truth seekers. I propose that when he refers to "We Who Wrestle with God". What he, in fact, means is; " I, Who Wrestle with Self". God bless Jordan Peterson.
@ventusborealis2414
@ventusborealis2414 9 дней назад
Amen
@davidrojas6457
@davidrojas6457 3 дня назад
Thank you, this is excellent! We continue to pray for the man.
@ld2906
@ld2906 День назад
@davidrojas6457 Yes, Yes! We must.
@LittleIAO
@LittleIAO 8 дней назад
Yeah this seems to be a pretty profound misunderstanding of Peterson. Not sure if it's accidental or deliberate but I hope it's the former. He's one of the very few public persona's to often admit he could be wrong and actually stop and take real time to answer a question. He will change his mind and be gracious to a fault but also fight for principles. If you want to pick a true flaw perhaps he just talks too much at times when he's interviewing someone. He's EXTREMELY supportive of the Christian Tradition. It seems many are dissatisfied that they can't pin him down to an exact label or can't handle that he wishes to avoid answering many of the most mundane questions directly. If he wants more time to figure out a straightforward answer that's fine. If he never wants to give one while simultaneously doing so much good work, why is that a problem? He might even be doing his best to tell the truth as he knows it because perhaps he wants to believe but still feels he doesn't truly and therefore won't lie. You'd have to be telepathic to know the answer until he says one way or the other.
@peacefuljourney4994
@peacefuljourney4994 9 дней назад
I could have sworn Peterson was making clear his belief and knowledge are 2 separate things and not up to anyone to accept or reject when language falls far short from the magnitude of his faith. It reminded me of DeGrasse-Tyson talking about the educated scientists become fewer in faith the more educated they become, until we're left with 5% of the most highly educated. What a beautiful miracle to be that smart, and be of faith.
@john-paulgies4313
@john-paulgies4313 9 дней назад
"For he that shall be ashamed of me and of my words, in this adulterous and sinful generation: the Son of man also will be ashamed of him, when he shall come in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38)
@khatack
@khatack 9 дней назад
God works in us through our hearts, not through our minds.
@PaulDo22
@PaulDo22 9 дней назад
@@khatack God works through both mind and heart. Quit creating false dichotomies. It's silly.
@john-paulgies4313
@john-paulgies4313 9 дней назад
@@khatack "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty to God, unto the pulling down of fortifications, destroying counsels, And every height that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God: and bringing into captivity every understanding unto the obedience of Christ..." (2 Cor. 10:4-5)
@khatack
@khatack 9 дней назад
@@PaulDo22 God certainly wasn't working through your mind when you wrote that comment.
@John-ng8fx
@John-ng8fx 9 дней назад
The JP cope is truly astounding. I promise you, obfuscating a question to the point of absurdity isn’t profound or nUaNcEd. He simply refuses to answer it and masks it in confusion and uncertainty. As a former JP fan, the JP fanboy memes are in full effect in this comments section.
@ethancoppel
@ethancoppel 9 дней назад
This is an astounding misunderstanding of Peterson. When he says "what do you mean by believe" he isn't questioning reality, he's questing what the interviewer is asking. This is because Peterson understands faith more than most Catholics do. He's asking because what most people mean is something like "If you time travled back to 30 A.D. would you see Jesus of Nazareth walk out of a tomb", when he wants to take belief seriously in meaning "Are you willing to follow the commands of God with everything you've got in you". If you really want to know what Peterson thinks go watch his interview with Alex O'connor instead claiming he's insane and potentially pushing him further from Christian community.
@vtorious9102
@vtorious9102 9 дней назад
He's splitting hairs and then subjugating us to a word salad. The answer is simple, either yes or no.
@CadenL.P.DuCôté
@CadenL.P.DuCôté 9 дней назад
@ethancoppel Well said.
@nancyz1828
@nancyz1828 9 дней назад
It seems he wants to get to the root of the question and some questions do need clarification as to what they are asking about
@joshualeond
@joshualeond 9 дней назад
Agreed! Peterson is leading many people (especially young men) to Christ and to the Church. I'm fairly certain he will arrive in the Eastern Orthodox Church but his bride is now Catholic. I overwhelmingly see good fruit from his work. He's dismantling the "new" atheist and revealing to many that spirituality is necessary in our lives.
@kevinkelly2162
@kevinkelly2162 9 дней назад
@@joshualeond What does spirituality mean?
@wilfredruffian5002
@wilfredruffian5002 8 дней назад
I found the totality of this utterly incomprehensible .
@professorlogos5459
@professorlogos5459 9 дней назад
I have been saying/thinking the same thing about him for a while. I feel like Peterson is kinda dishonest on this point.
@ZachGorham44
@ZachGorham44 9 дней назад
Back that up. How has he been dishonest? I have listened to most of the content he has ever produced. I have never heard a word I thought was a lie.
@marianmorley
@marianmorley 7 дней назад
I agree, he's completely dishonest
@LassePeterson
@LassePeterson 4 дня назад
@@ZachGorham44 I think the this video answers the question of why you could feel he is somewhat dishonest. The “what do you mean by do” kind of answer to a pretty straight forward question.
@richardshehab3321
@richardshehab3321 9 дней назад
A Spanish quote describes Peterson: "Calladito te ves mas bonito", which translates to "You look preetier when you are quiet".
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Jordan Peterson is Jewish not Christian Catholic. Communists divided Catholics and Protestants historically unite
@rettaroo5972
@rettaroo5972 8 дней назад
Please invite Jordan Peterson to be interviewed by you on your show. Not a debate necessarily, but you could interview him and push him to clarify some of these things. Some good fruit could indeed come from this.
@corneliusquincydavenportic1913
@corneliusquincydavenportic1913 9 дней назад
Peterson is kind of stubborn, true.
@cyano741
@cyano741 9 дней назад
I think this obsession with tracking and speculating this mans every step towards grace is not Christian at all. In fact, I think it is becoming cheap gossip. Who are we to determine if he is Christian enough, or not. Or when he says " What do you mean by believe" he genuinely means to dig deeper, or not. He has explained extensively why he does not like the question, in detail, in plenty of podcasts. To pressure someone, and constantly nitpick every single word he says, to confirm if you're satisfied with his Christianity yet, is incredibly childish and unhealthy behavior. I'm not sure what this content creator is hoping to achieve with this. The mans path is his own. Let him walk it. Perhaps that would be less frustrating for everyone involved.
@mjmcc-
@mjmcc- 9 дней назад
Hear, hear. 👏👏👏💯💯💯
@VarnoSlimm
@VarnoSlimm 9 дней назад
Facts
@spinvalve
@spinvalve 9 дней назад
Well, to be fair his path includes the fame, influence and publicity that he had intentionally accepted, along with all the vicissitudes which comes with them
@cyano741
@cyano741 9 дней назад
@@spinvalve How self-righteous to think that gives you, or anyone permission to ridicule or judge him, because of it. Very gracious of you. The irony, that you would therefore intentionally be the negative contrast to that vicissitude. As we say in Europe: It's your Charon's boat. Pack your one way suitcase, the way you like it. After all, you're paying its price.
@JJ-ki6sv
@JJ-ki6sv 8 дней назад
To interpret it most generously, which we should do for Jordan Peterson as well as Mr Holdsworth, he is likely bringing this up because Jordan Peterson is a public figure who has influence on a great many men and women. It is fairly clear that at least part of the reason for this video was to discourage in Christians, who already progress the faith, the inclination to adopt this overwhelming skepticism, especially in matters of faith. Perhaps you're right that there are more charitable takes. But I don't think you know that it is was an uncharitable intent. We shouldn't assume so. I don't think he brings up Peterson much at all.
@Vincenzo-wn1or
@Vincenzo-wn1or 6 дней назад
"Modern history is the dialogue between two men: one who believes in God, another who believes he is a god." ~Nicolás Gómez Dávila
@admiralbob7797
@admiralbob7797 8 дней назад
Peterson reminds of of "Life of Pi", a book whose point is to tell people to get off the fence. Peterson spends so much time on the fence, he doesn't realize how small of a position a fence gives you.
@FlashTrance
@FlashTrance 9 дней назад
I'm extremely sympathetic to Peterson's "What do you mean by God?" question. Mostly because no one ever answers it, which tells me that either they ARE trying to corner him with the question, or they themselves don't know what they mean, which is a problem. Do you mean what the Platonist's refer to as "The One?" Do you mean a being above all other beings that exists within the universe? Do you mean the Holy Trinity? It's a very legitimate question.
@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 9 дней назад
Fine, but he if he were consistent, he wouldn't then go give lecture series about the Bible which is the revelation of God according to Christianity. You can't say God is too nebulous to affirm and then give exposition of who and what God is.
@byrondickens
@byrondickens 9 дней назад
Precisely.
@FlashTrance
@FlashTrance 9 дней назад
@@BrianHoldsworth I see the point you're making, thank you for sharing it! However, the exposition of God that Peterson gives in his lectures seems to be enjoyed and affirmed by many Gnostics, Perennialists, and Neo-Platonists (I have even met one offline myself!). It's not incarnational and Christ-oriented; he leaves the door open to a "purely symbolic" interpretation, rather than pointing towards an incarnational understanding of the world. I really think he himself is trying to figure it out! Imagine if you were in the middle of trying to wrap your mind around God, one day you think you know Him and the next you don't, you're travelling, doing talks, getting older, millions of people are hanging on every word you say, and to top it off you're a psychology professor with a rational mind that constantly gets in the way... I feel for him. Should he stop doing talks and tours and take some time in silence to figure it out? Yes. But that's the position I think he finds himself in.
@lglge611
@lglge611 6 дней назад
​@@PicturingOurPastcouldn't agree more! God bless you and Brian also!
@jacobstorey6376
@jacobstorey6376 9 дней назад
He wants people to think deeper on this question and do some real research into god. When you ask “do you believe in god?”. That can mean many things from a big man in the sky to creator of universe or both. This a problem many struggle with. He is doing this to challenge us and consider who is god? What is god? Why? And many more questions. He knows who he thinks god is but doesn’t know what you think god is so yes he can say I believe but what haven’t expressed what that means. Hope this insight helps
@spinvalve
@spinvalve 9 дней назад
If there ever was a case of trying to be so intellectually humble to the point of being proud, that would be JBP today. I mean look, he has studied the bible inside out and has gleaned more wisdom than anyone else, which includes clergymen; and he has, in no small measure, literally witnessed a miracle of the rosary when Our Lady snatched his wife back from death's grip. If anything, I pray JBP finds humility to surrender to the one true Lord Jesus Christ
@SuperPunitor
@SuperPunitor 9 дней назад
He strikes me as someone wants to make a leap of faith, but also wants to define the stakes before he does so, but that's not an option. He just can't bring himself to make an actual leap of faith.
@meihui7767
@meihui7767 9 дней назад
Not yet but hopefully someday:)
@tedshoemaker923
@tedshoemaker923 9 дней назад
Jordan Peterson's skepticism is more belief than the "Lord, Lord" of many who claim to believe.
@terirusnak9675
@terirusnak9675 8 дней назад
I’m a pretty smart person, but every time I hear him, it sounds like he is talking in circles and saying nothing. 🤷🏼‍♀️
@dennischanay7781
@dennischanay7781 9 дней назад
I used to be such a devoted JBP disciple but he really started losing me a few years ago in this whole issue of "Does God exist?".. He's just afraid to answer the question so he dances around it..also he insulted that plus sized model on Twitter....don't know what happened to him, he's not the same Biblical lecture series of 2018 or even 12 Rules of Life guy I so admired. I have a weird theory that he kind of went off the rails when he started messing with the psychedelics? Maybe I'm wrong but he doesn't seem the same. I'm now much more Interested in the journey and testimony of his wife Tammy.
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Jordan Peterson is Jewish not Christian a gatekeeper for Jewish federations interests
@almasyelesbayev736
@almasyelesbayev736 9 дней назад
Religious people: Have faith, brother! Other people: I have faith. Religious people: Yeah, but yours is wrong.
@AugustusDraco-t3d
@AugustusDraco-t3d 9 дней назад
Thank you Brian I appreciate your videos may peace be with you
@tlewis84able
@tlewis84able 9 дней назад
Being a right-brainer, I have always, since early childhood, been comfortable with the eternally mystical nature of the Creator. I can answer much of it, to myself, by watching a flower. Jordan, on the other hand, is a committed left-brainer. Watching him wrestling these concepts while trying to validate them all through the left brain, is interesting. He has a not so crazy belief that by giving the right brain the wheel, you may find yourself sitting in the passenger seat next to Charles Manson with a knife in your hand. That said, I think he’s inching in the right direction and may eventually put his slide-rule away and submit to the Creator.
@Jim-nb3lq
@Jim-nb3lq 7 дней назад
Peterson's frequent use of Christ's name as an expletive deletive tells us all we know about his religious believes, or lack thereof.
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Jordan Peterson is Jewish not Christian Catholic like Trudeau
@noahhecker6672
@noahhecker6672 9 дней назад
The one JP teaching I actually remember is make your bed every day because even if the day sucks you’ll still come home to a made bed
@cicara92
@cicara92 9 дней назад
Bro really thinks Australia exists 💀
@shariftarabay2898
@shariftarabay2898 9 дней назад
It took a while but lately I found a suspect side to him that I wanted to ignore but eventually was confirmed.. “Give ‘em Hell. Enough is Enough.” to Netanyahu and little comments like “You mean all those pesky Catholics?" didn't help.
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Jordan Peterson is Jewish not Christian Catholic
@marianmorley
@marianmorley 7 дней назад
Yes he really revealed himself there and his contempt for humanity. I see him as a dr Faustus now.
@ZachGorham44
@ZachGorham44 9 дней назад
Generally love your content Brian. As a fellow Albertan I really respect your videos. I think you are looking beyond the mark on Peterson here however. Peterson is essentially a Christian in his worldview and continues to get closer to overt Christianity as time goes on. You spend a lot of the video on skepticism, but Peterson is not a skeptic. He won’t come out and say he believes in God, but he lives as if he does. He would say himself that his actions speak more to his belief than his words do. I don’t know what his reasons are for not stating his belief publicly, but looking at his impact on the world it is clear to me that he does hold Christian values and a Christian worldview.
@ismailaeyoussef
@ismailaeyoussef 8 дней назад
I think Jordan is more of Christian than many self proclaiming Christians, and I am proud that he is honest about what he believes.
@rech3771
@rech3771 8 дней назад
JP is the Masterchef of word salad.
@everetunknown5890
@everetunknown5890 8 дней назад
Dr. Peterson is inviting people to have richer conversations and to question themselves more. Maybe him itemizing every word in the question is a poor way to do it but he's trying to invite people to think outside the box instead of asking him if he believes in God and having the cheap satisfaction of saying a famous cool guy is "on our side" because he merely said he believes in God. You have to remember that at heart Dr. Peterson is a philosopher and a trained psychologist and his desire is intellectual inquiry, not religious affiliation. Let him do his thing.
@EduRB99
@EduRB99 9 дней назад
Just a honest question, aren't those JP videos outdated? I remember when he came to scene, he used to gravitate towards agnosticism. But in the last few years, I'm positive that I remember seen him say he's a beliver now. Did he go back on that? He made a bunch of debates against atheists, another bunch of lectures about the bible, his last world tour was title "We who hastle with God", he even give testimony about his wife and her cancer cure praying the rosary. Looks like the doctors said she had no chance anymore...Am I missing something? Did he change his mind again? Because he loves to "mess around" with interviewers all the time... Did something new happened in the last days? I'm completely lost.
@littleboots9800
@littleboots9800 9 дней назад
Peterson has never said that he is a Christian.
@Mrs_Homemaker
@Mrs_Homemaker 8 дней назад
No, he has recently said he is "on the side lines" and won't actually answer the question. He's catfishing the Christians and the atheists with his dancing around the answer.
@ZTAudio
@ZTAudio 9 дней назад
I think it would be wise for those not well read enough to understand JBP, to simply admit that they don’t understand him.
@marisajohnson2958
@marisajohnson2958 9 дней назад
First of all Chesterton is THE BOMB. I love The Man Who was Thursday. Also your thoughts on skepticism are REALLY REALLY good. Skepticism, on the level you're describing, reminds me of Puddleglum facing down the witch in C.S. Lewis's The Silver Chair, when she claims they have never really seen the sun. Only a lamp. If I can suggest a thought, as I am a very big Jordan Peterson fan, I get the impression that Jordan Peterson wants a lot of room and oxygen in his faith journey. He doesn't want to be pressured, cornered, labeled, or boxed in to anything. So he chooses to be a certain degree of illusive when it comes to questions of faith. His wife just recently joined the Catholic church, and he's very supportive of her. But he himself I get the impression, likes to do his growing underground. If that makes sense? To grow freely and in his own way and time. And perhaps not very publicly. But I get how his illusive answers could sound like a chronic skeptic. And I do personally get frustrated with chronic skeptics.
@duathellto1460
@duathellto1460 8 дней назад
I've wondered something similar, and also whether his "growing" has been significantly delayed by the prying and pressuring from people he doesn't even know. There's a general principle in the Church that new converts ought not go evangelizing and sharing and being really public about their new faith, because they're still figuring out what they got into. St. Paul went several years before he started preaching. JP's wife is not as much in the limelight, and therefore a bit more immune to it. I know that other famous converts sometimes did not announce their conversion until years later. But he's pretty well boxed himself into getting the question, with all the Bible study lectures he's given, interviews with priests and religious influencers, etc. He can't give the typical professional's answer of "I'm not an expert in that question, and I'm not going to give my personal beliefs, opinion, or speculations for this professional lecture/interview". He chose that. Perhaps because even if he likes to do his growing underground, he absolutely requires the meeting of the minds in order to do it. Who knows, but God?
@Straitsfan
@Straitsfan 9 дней назад
I’ll say it again-Luther. It all goes back to Luther.
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Catholics and Protestants historically divided by communists
@philiphumphrey1548
@philiphumphrey1548 9 дней назад
I disagree with Brian on this. As someone who has worked in scientific research, I think we should always be skeptical because other people's assumptions and our own are frequently wrong. Most of the great scientific experiments disproved widely held assumptions. The reason I'm a Catholic Christian is because I used to be an atheist, but became skeptical about the idea of no god and the universe creating itself. As Saint Thomas Aquinas pointed out, an uncaused first cause for everything is a logical necessity, and I can't find any way round that. I respect people who can just say "I believe", but that doesn't work for me.
@TheRealShrike
@TheRealShrike 5 дней назад
@@philiphumphrey1548 I'm glad you have welcomed a certain amount of skepticism in your life. Modern physicists are questioning causality itself especially as it applies to the beginning of the universe. We simply don't know if cause and effect worked the same way at the singularity. Try some of Skydive Phil's videos to get beyond Aquinas's simplistic view of the beginning of the universe.
@lumpichu
@lumpichu 9 дней назад
Personally I (long before this video) can't listen to JP anymore. He just refuses to choose and masks it with clever words. What can he say about being a man, be responsible for your actions etc? To me, nothing. And doing something for faith? If someone with a broad audience, who admits Jesus has risen from the dead, presents such response to it to others, he's more dangerous to it than the woke people.
@ValiantSaint
@ValiantSaint 7 дней назад
He may not believe in God, but he believes in ZioBucks. Those shekels are no joke bucko!
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Jordan Peterson is Jewish not Christian Catholic . Why pretend to be someone else’s ethnicity and falsely represent them? Power issues
@marianmorley
@marianmorley 7 дней назад
😂😂😂 true !!
@MAsWorld1
@MAsWorld1 7 дней назад
Since we essentially know nothing except that which our lying brain tells us. We are in no position to judge.
@overtexpression2299
@overtexpression2299 9 дней назад
I'm not sure what Peterson you are talking about...we must be watching entirely different people
@joehathaway2512
@joehathaway2512 9 дней назад
Not sure what the context was for your argument about Mr Peterson? Using a tiny section of one of his talks to claim he is insane doesn’t make any sense. My own sense of Peterson is that he largely points out the insanity of what is considered true today, especially the gender bullshit. I am skeptical of everything the media and government proclaims today. Anyone that doesn’t, is insane. I generally like your videos and analysis, but this one not so much.
@keymaker2112
@keymaker2112 9 дней назад
Peterson is a very confused person and, like any broken clock, is right twice a day.
@raphmarcotte7379
@raphmarcotte7379 9 дней назад
I fell the same
@meihui7767
@meihui7767 9 дней назад
I agree with you that I don’t like Brian’s argument this time at all.
@bradleymarshall5489
@bradleymarshall5489 9 дней назад
I mean at this point a 5 year old can point out the insanity of today. Trying to give people a pass for pointing out the obvious undermines how insane the world has gotten and overlook the correct criticisms Brian is pointing out.
@watchyoutb
@watchyoutb 5 дней назад
I agree. His reply "What do you mean by God?" is very unsatisfying. Everyone knows what we mean.
@gloriamacias2180
@gloriamacias2180 6 дней назад
Very sad because in the beginning, Peterson sounded very sound, logical and reasonable but now he is just someone who doesn’t understand what he wants and/or needs.
@m_a950
@m_a950 2 дня назад
I’m glad someone on the Catholic sphere gets to talk about Peterson’s sophistry
@therussianbot1237
@therussianbot1237 7 дней назад
His response, imo, is deeper than you’re describing. He is treating the questioner with a test. Are they sincere in their question or is it just a trap? Sometimes your rhetoric feels forced.
@tinman1955
@tinman1955 6 дней назад
Imagine how immeasurably better the world would be if we were all insane as JP.
@BrianLatimersPage
@BrianLatimersPage 6 дней назад
As a public figure, is it possible JP does not want to risk the loss of income often associated with a professed belief in God?
@readmore8302
@readmore8302 9 дней назад
I know it's behind a paywall, but I highly recommend everyone go and watch the Daily Wire Plus portion of Jordan's talk with Jack Symes, specifically 34:43 - 38:15. He answers these criticisms and even describes himself as an existential Christian in the free portion. We need to be far more wary before we call people insane.
@jessehermann7266
@jessehermann7266 2 дня назад
He rejects the truth of Christianity but believes we should still live like it's true
@brianboudrot7055
@brianboudrot7055 8 дней назад
Aside from his wife being Catholic, his daughter has been some kind of Protestant (Evangelical) for a few years now. She said her dad used to talk about Bible stories to her. The Bible informs his psychology philosophy.
@ChristopherTom
@ChristopherTom 8 дней назад
Peterson has said Catholicism is “as sane as human beings can get” - so if he himself isn’t Catholic, wouldn’t this mean he isn’t fully sane by his own standard?
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Totally. Jordan Peterson is Jewish not Christian Catholic pretending to be someone else’s ethnicity but is not. A gatekeeper for Jewish federations interests not cool
@sengan2475
@sengan2475 9 дней назад
You really should have a conversation with Dave from the Distributist here on youtube. God bless, Brian
@theamericancristero7390
@theamericancristero7390 9 дней назад
Mr. "Human biodiversity" ok.
@bradleymarshall5489
@bradleymarshall5489 9 дней назад
I've been noticing what you're talking about for a while now. I'm glad more people are beginning to see this and realize there's a far better Christian alternative.
@TyronePatrickFahey
@TyronePatrickFahey 9 дней назад
Peterson has done far more good than bad brah. I tend to focus on his finer points, as I do with you.
@billstrahan4791
@billstrahan4791 9 дней назад
I love your work, and hope you’ll find the talks where Peterson himself says why he doesn’t like the question and why he responds that way. His position is the questioner in these cases probably doesn’t know what he means by god, and the question is just intended to get a sound bite that can be used by the questioner. He talks at length about why he doesn’t like the question, but then also says he knows how he would answer it, which is to say that he acts as if god exists. Essentially, I don’t think this is an aspect of skepticism unless it’s Peterson being skeptical of the intentions of the person questioning.
@kreigormoorkus3695
@kreigormoorkus3695 6 дней назад
"Hey, a guy who has most likely done more than the Church to turn people's eyes towards Christ again, faulty as it may be. Let's misrepresent him" Good luck spreading the Gospel that way, brother
@nexus_keeper
@nexus_keeper 6 дней назад
The thing I like about Jordan Peterson is that he is actively searching for the truth, and understands that his views are still flawed.
@SK-fd8kw
@SK-fd8kw 2 дня назад
Respectfully, Brian is engaging in sophistry. Almost everyone who ridicules Peterson for the ridiculous-sounding “what do you mean by do” exchange is either not educated in the post-Kantian western philosophical tradition + psychological literature, or they are and they don’t like Peterson’s positions and therefore are happy to ridicule him themselves to undermine him. For those of us who have studied philosophy and psychology and are sympathetic to Conservatism/Western Tradition, academic philosophy/psychology are frustrating. Modern philosophy has conclusively undermined the theoretical grounds upon which traditional beliefs are grounded. The only viable conservative / traditionalist response to post-Kantian epistemology has been phenomenology and existentialism. Existentialism does not admit to theorizing: truths are live-able (they are embodied), not knowable. Peterson sounds ridiculous at times because (aside from the fact he’s probably emotionally unwell), he is trying to explain embodied understandings. Brian and most other people who stand in judgment of him are simply not qualified... Epistemology, physics, and axiology are not simple. Sorry it’s all so complicated, but it is. Peterson has a command of the modern philosophy and psychology; the vast majority of the people who think he’s ridiculous do not. I can’t stand listening to Peterson. His voice is annoying, and he is often emotionally unhinged. He’s over-exposed, bitter (for understandable reasons), and is probably compromised by audience capture. But the man knows what he’s talking about. Brian and other scoffers would do well to exercise some humility w/ respect to the “skeptical” things Peterson has said.
@byrondickens
@byrondickens 9 дней назад
You've got it all wrong. First off, skepticism is not properly a refusal to believe at all but a withholding of judgment until evaluating the evidence and letting that evidence lead where it may. Secondly, the philosophically minded know that you have to define terms. Untold terabytes worth of bandwidth could be saved arguing past one another if people would define their terms first. If you were to ask me if I believe in God, what do you mean by "believe" and what do you mean by "God?" If, like the typical theologically and philosophically illiterate new atheist, I "believe" you mean "accept without examination the assertion of some putative authority" and by "God"you mean the "invisible man in the sky" straw man, then you and I won't even be having the same conversation.
@pottingsoil
@pottingsoil 9 дней назад
The skeptic would be skeptical of their skepticism, which would work in favor of their arguments.
@Sondre7
@Sondre7 8 дней назад
Jordan Peterson was the entrypoint for me that eventually led to my conversion to Catholicism, and I know I am not alone. I think he is on a very long journey to faith, and will eventually get there. He has a unique and important role to play in the world and so I forgive him for taking longer than I would have wished.
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Jordan Peterson is Jewish not Christian Catholic
@exerciserelax8719
@exerciserelax8719 3 дня назад
Pray for Jordan Peterson and all who have not found the truth yet!
@jamesgordley5000
@jamesgordley5000 6 дней назад
I remember him saying that it depends on what the interviewer means by “believe” and by “God”, but I didn’t hear him question the meaning of any other words in the sentence. What “believe” and “God” mean are legit questions. That’s really not the degree of absurd reductionist skepticism you’re referring to at all.
@PetitLouis-s7g
@PetitLouis-s7g 8 дней назад
Hello ! Watching from France. It was a good expose. Thank you. God bless.✝⚜
@Teamfra
@Teamfra 7 дней назад
Wow, Brian. Love your consistency of thought. Peterson needs our prayers. Hope he can see this video
@Arcturas66
@Arcturas66 5 дней назад
Keep in mind, Peterson is often figuring things out in real time. It is not unusual for him to reverse himself due to some other thought that may occur to him later.
@corilv13honey9
@corilv13honey9 9 дней назад
Thank you Brian!🙏🥰😇
@armonwp
@armonwp 6 дней назад
See: Jordanetics: A Journey Into the Mind of Humanity's Greatest Thinker
@henryfclarkakahankmcnamee7249
@henryfclarkakahankmcnamee7249 4 дня назад
Perhaps we should all ask what we mean by "believing"? Because KNOWING, is different than believing.
@carolynkimberly4021
@carolynkimberly4021 9 дней назад
He sounds like Clinton.
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Jordan Peterson is Jewish not Christian Catholic never went to church
@maplewoodfarm7096
@maplewoodfarm7096 9 дней назад
It's my very humble opinion that Jordan Peterson is inspiring many people to turn to God. To reconsider embracing their faith in HIM. I am thankful for the courage and openness of this man. God is using him to bring people Home. Praise God
@christophercarlo4444
@christophercarlo4444 8 дней назад
Peterson is countering the Protestant conception of belief as faith without works. He does believe, but he understands belief as the assent of the whole person, the directing of one’s whole life to God.
@gunslinger5132
@gunslinger5132 9 дней назад
yeah the faux sophistication when it comes to this question is always a dodge, which I get it, he doesn’t want to make that public (I think personally because he doesn’t believe in God as a being) and doesn’t want to just outright say that or say “I don’t want to answer that”
@ElTonto_777
@ElTonto_777 8 дней назад
I think what prevents him from coming to the Church is his true religion which is this hyper individualistic liberal secular humanism. He would never join a heiarchical and authoritative church that tells us to die to onesself for it.
@WesternPatriot-v8m
@WesternPatriot-v8m 7 дней назад
Jordan Peterson is Jewish not Christian Catholic never went to church
@legone.6677
@legone.6677 6 дней назад
Its so good seeing you discover Truth, Brian.
@christopherwilkens4460
@christopherwilkens4460 9 дней назад
Ok... now my brain is cross-eyed.....
@j.c.3800
@j.c.3800 9 дней назад
It is easy to be labeled. Jordan remains open to seekers of all walks.
@cfban
@cfban 9 дней назад
Being a seeker is pointless if you're never really intending to find anything.
@2PopRonB
@2PopRonB 6 дней назад
Brian, you have to listen to hours of his conversations with some of the brightest minds on the planet. If he weren’t famous no one would think twice about his opinions. Everyone comes to understanding at their own time. He’s doing his due diligence.
@johnnyg.5499
@johnnyg.5499 7 дней назад
I have not listened to JP in a long time. When I saw the title of your video I was stunned and had to listen. You are absolutely right and I think Jordan has sadly gone off the deep end.
@issaavedra
@issaavedra 4 часа назад
What? A guy that it's not a Christian is not saying the things Christians would want? Incredible. He is searching and he is honest.
@WhyCatholicdotCom
@WhyCatholicdotCom 7 дней назад
I have never met Jordan Peterson, and I suspect most people commenting on him haven’t either. So, like many others, I can only offer speculation about his personal journey and thoughts. I don't think Petersons' skepticism is insane nor do I find him to be avoiding reality. It’s understandable that some people, particularly Protestants, get frustrated when Peterson is asked about his beliefs and responds with “What do you mean?” On some level, I think he’s speaking to those who claim belief without necessarily embodying it-perhaps challenging those who take their faith for granted, much like some “born-again” types. In my view, Jordan Peterson engages in a stream-of-consciousness dialogue with his audience. Many, including myself, appreciate his intellectual honesty and the fact that he’s openly grappling with these complex issues in real-time. Peterson is acutely aware of the weight his words carry. It’s certainly possible, as some have speculated, that he has already joined the Church but chooses to keep this private. He likely understands that making such a declaration could limit his broader influence, as he continues to help others find their own paths. Having faced public scrutiny before, he knows the mob can be quick to judge. Perhaps he’s still discerning the best way to share his faith openly. Of course, it’s possible that Peterson is still wrestling with belief and has yet to make a formal commitment. However, in his interview with John Rich, he mentioned that he takes faith seriously-much more seriously than many who profess belief. Peterson insightfully notes, “Belief is not just a statement of what you think is true; it’s a way of living.” In a previous interview with Dennis Prager, he expressed a similar sentiment, questioning belief and acknowledging how much it demands. He even remarked, “Catholicism is as sane as it gets.” Consider Saint Augustine, who after his conversion famously prayed for the grace to be chaste-“but not yet.” Like Augustine, perhaps Peterson is on his own journey toward faith, working through the challenges at his own pace. I also find it hard to believe that his wife would have come to the Church without some guidance or influence from Peterson himself. Instead of trying to put Peterson in a specific box, perhaps the better question is: What is God’s purpose in all of this? Peterson has millions of followers many of who claim to come to the Church with the help of Jordan. As someone who tries to help others find their way, I marvel at Peterson. By listening to someone who is still “wrestling with God,” perhaps we find that God’s message becomes more relatable and easier to accept. After all, our purpose is not limited to this life. As Scripture says, God will use restored human agents for the ages to come (Ephesians 2:7).
@Pabloseos
@Pabloseos 9 дней назад
I guess he makes the question of whether it's even possible to say that you believe in God and not be 100 percent comitted. Similarly, if a communist says he is a communist and doesn't do absolutely everything for his "revolution", does he has a right to call himself a communist? Perhaps, to be fully committed (which is to say "believe"), you have to be on a super-human level. That's my understanding of what Jordan Peterson means btw, thumbnail and title are overly-clickbaity
@lisandroCT
@lisandroCT 9 дней назад
Well, technically God doesn't exist. God is.
@AN1Guitarman
@AN1Guitarman 9 дней назад
Looks like somebody made the mistake of skimming Dr. Peterson's work and therefore totally misconstrued it. You're hilariously arguing in a very shallow way what his entire body of work has argued for, you completely and totally misunderstand this man and have made a huge error in your estimate of him as a thinker. I don't know if it's dishonesty, ignorance, or lack of effort, but it is surely at least one of those.
@johnbanasiak3720
@johnbanasiak3720 5 дней назад
Let’s all pray for Peterson conversion. He’s wrestling. With our help in prayer and the Holy Spirit, he WILL get there. It’s partially on us folks. Let’s all take our responsibilities seriously.
@bretstanley8931
@bretstanley8931 7 дней назад
I think all we can do is pray for Jordan's conversion. Whenever I see a thumbnail to one of his videos, I try to say a quick prayer for his conversion.
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