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The inspector denied permanent power to the house! Now what???  

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I didn't get the outcome I was hoping for when the inspector showed up for my electrical inspection.
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@aceroadholder2185
@aceroadholder2185 2 года назад
The lesson here is to find someone who KNOWS the building codes in your area to review your project before starting. Spending a couple of hundred dollars on the front end for knowledgeable advice can save you thousands of dollars and a lot of grief on the back end. Just because it makes sense to you doesn't mean that the building codes won't tear you a new one.
@frrapp2366
@frrapp2366 2 года назад
thats why i live where i dont have to follow silly codes just the practical ones like put rebar in your concrete , use heavy enough wire and breakers for the job, ect.
@Mrcaffinebean
@Mrcaffinebean 22 дня назад
Reality is no such person exists. The codes are so numerous and projects have so many moving parts that only someone with a complete understanding of the whole project MIGHT catch this. GCs who build houses like this miss stuff like this all the time. It’s just a part of life.
@dawnhope3998
@dawnhope3998 2 года назад
You are a smart wise man, Andrew. GOD bless you and your wife.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you for watching!
@sharonurschel6753
@sharonurschel6753 2 года назад
Looks great with some lights on! Sorry you had a bump in the road with getting power turned on, you are so smart to think of ways to work around this! Merry Christmas to you, Tiffany and Bullet 🎄🎁❤️
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@aoutdoors1414
@aoutdoors1414 2 года назад
Well that sucks but you found a way to keep moving forward, keep up the great job loving all of this content and thanks for not stringing it out too the end to tell what happen i hate that too.
@gaylewatkins4685
@gaylewatkins4685 2 года назад
Hi Andrew, the inspector was nice to give you some options for temporary electric to the house so you will be able to move forward. The house looks beautiful and thanks for the lighted tour. Merry Christmas. 🎄🎁
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Yes he was! Merry Christmas!
@caroledwards3465
@caroledwards3465 2 года назад
I'm sticking with you ..I have watched every vlog for 18 months ..Merry Christmas everyone, keep safe and well, best wishes from the North Norfolk coast UK Andrew it's a small hic up with the power it will be sorted ❤
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you for the support and Merry Christmas!
@ACO-Amy
@ACO-Amy 2 года назад
Well, good news you found a way around the issue and lights, so exciting! I love the colors even more now and with the color wood you're going with, it's going to look so sharp! Merry Christmas to everyone!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@bobgray617
@bobgray617 2 года назад
Very nice to see the house lit up. Glad to hear you had some options instead of just a flat "no".
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Me too!
@cm44-opo
@cm44-opo 2 года назад
Look out Andrew! Another speed bump. Once again you came up with a way around the issue. Love all the lights.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Absolutely! Onwards and forward!
@sewing1243
@sewing1243 2 года назад
I'd think about going ahead and trenching between the shop and the house, pipe it with the appropriate size PVC conduit, and run your temp power in it. That would also give you options in the future.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
You are correct there, been thinking about that. At least I could power the shop in a outage situation via generator.
@ckm-mkc
@ckm-mkc 2 года назад
@@TKCL I would trench to a box, then branch to the garage. That way when you are ready for perm power, you just trench to the pole from the box....
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
What the video doesn't show is I have already trenched from the pole to the house, installed the meter box and passed all inspections. It's the sanitary rule that isn't allowing that final connection.
@Natsumidragneelkim
@Natsumidragneelkim 2 года назад
@@TKCL like this comment says about running temp power from shop I would suggest investing in a propane backup generator installed next to the shop(less noise to hear in house) and add a auto switch panel between meter and main panel at the house but still keep the generator setup you have so if the propane one uses all it's fule you still have a source power.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Hard to justify those expensive whole house units when my cheapo generator will run everything, it's also dual fuel. We are very fortunate to live only a 1/4 mile from a sub station, so when power goes out, we are one of the first to get power back.
@cappleget
@cappleget 2 года назад
Well done Andrew - really getting exciting!!
@grumpymorris6351
@grumpymorris6351 2 года назад
This is not a milestone this is a setback, fire pit and beverage cheers man you got this. Merry Christmas and keep on keeping on.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@ajmiller7102
@ajmiller7102 2 года назад
Reading the building code in the beginning of a project helps prevent issues. Most counties have a copy of the building code available, or online, for reference. Putting up a few temporary poles from the powered build and running an overhead line to feed you home panel will keep you going. Quick, simple, and easy with no trenching required.
@1stFlyingeagle
@1stFlyingeagle 2 года назад
But most likely they would want the wire under the ground so you don't have to see the ugly crap in there view.
@Bigrignohio
@Bigrignohio 2 года назад
@@1stFlyingeagle Thus the "temporary" power poles.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 2 года назад
Most communities rely on the standard code (that is all we have here in Flagstaff), but nuances about what must be in place when are typically local. Talking with an inspector ahead of time will quickly bring up the most common unwanted surprises.
@stevedixon921
@stevedixon921 2 года назад
From the couch it seems odd to require sanitary be operational before getting power, power during construction being a desired thing and all. It does make perfect sense though to prevent dumb people from moving into a space early and making a nasty mess of things. Sometimes you know what you don't know, some times you don't.
@ajmiller7102
@ajmiller7102 2 года назад
@@stevedixon921 On sanitary: The purpose is to prevent occupancy before completion and in most locations, outhouses are not allowed, though porta-johns are allowed/required during construction. Codes are for the not only the safety of owners but future owners.
@andy6043
@andy6043 2 года назад
2-2-4-6 direct burial is fairly inexpensive and easy to do and handles up to 100 amps. I ran it thru the woods at my place for my shop using a stump grinder to cut the trench !
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Yes when you can find it, I got very lucky yesterday! Two states of searching and I caught a delivery truck with some.
@andy6043
@andy6043 2 года назад
@@TKCL Better and easier than running a generator all the time, glad you found it !
@terryreynolds7860
@terryreynolds7860 2 года назад
Even though the Inspector didn't grant you the power he gave you good options. Glad to see you have an Inspector that will work with you. That is definitely a BIG PLUS. In the past I've had just the opposite. Inspectors with attitudes that made the whole process so difficult. Merry Christmas to you , Tiffany and you four-legged pooch. Continue the Great work and Stay Safe and Healthy. God Bless.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Yes I have been very blessed to have a good inspector.
@carlustownsend7588
@carlustownsend7588 2 года назад
👍you're almost there Andrew just keep on doing what you're doing.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Absolutely! 👍
@DizTraveler
@DizTraveler 2 года назад
Suggestion: your light switch in attic, they make one that have a "night light" feature so anyone can easily spot it. :D I'd run that big cable, gain you some power and allow you to continue to work effieciently on your build, a/c operating to condition your home too!
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 2 года назад
that's only useful if you place the attic light switch outside the attic! once you've opened the attic stairs and climbed up to turn the lights on it's fully pointless to also have a pilot lamp switch. 🤣 if you cannot then tell if the attic lights are on or off, you have more issues, like being 100% blind or dumb. always use a pilot lamp switch if it's located outside the attic/crawlspace. even then they do burn out. you can also wire them backwards so they're lit when switched off if in a crawlspace or attic(debatable now days with the electronic garbage plaquing the markets). **the old neon bulb models worked that way, wired backwards, they'd light up when power off and make a night light/switch locator in the dark. some of us still walk around in the dark nd use out hands and fete to know where we are, we don't consider it "prepping/prepper", it's naturally being ready for the failures of power/lighting..
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
I'll be accessing the attic via stairs from the living room that I'll build eventually. I've seen those night light switches, they could definitely be useful in certain situations.
@PhilLesh69
@PhilLesh69 2 года назад
There are also faceplates with an led bulb built in to light the outlet or switch and provide night light features. So you don't need a special backlit switch.
@DizTraveler
@DizTraveler 2 года назад
@@PhilLesh69 that's what I was suggesting...glad you worded more clearer 👍
@jeremiahs45
@jeremiahs45 2 года назад
Your barn to house wire would make for an awesome welder cord later 😉. I would have to adjust the kelvin on those lights except in the kitchen. Looks awesome Andrew. Merry Christmas to you and Tiffany and Bullet
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
We are already talking about toning the lights down in color.
@tonyv8925
@tonyv8925 2 года назад
@@TKCL Try 3,000K lights. Above that they are too "blue" and below that they are soft but kind of dim. Seems 3,000K gives you a little bit of both temperatures in illumination. btw...great video. You must be very proud of this project.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
My lights go from 3k-5k, we find 3k a bit yellow for our tastes. Thanks for watching!
@mgilbert754
@mgilbert754 2 года назад
Wow Andrew what a gorgeous place you have- nice and flat and sunny! I enjoy watching you and the video- keep em coming!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you for watching
@davekovacs8818
@davekovacs8818 2 года назад
Great job ! Glad you have options now until your completed with projects
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Me too!
@Shermanbay
@Shermanbay 2 года назад
If you have trouble with flickering LEDs in future videos, try adjusting the shutter or frame rate. Lowering these often fixes the problem, since LEDs turn on and off very fast, and unlike your eyes, a fast shutter often catches the off part of the cycle. You don't need high frame or shutter speeds for most non-sports video (try setting frame rates 30 or 24 FPS, shutter at 1/30 or even slower).
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
I agree, but once I connected to grid power it went away.
@Shermanbay
@Shermanbay 2 года назад
@@TKCL Sounds like your generator wasn't running at 60hz. Mains power is quite steady and consistent with the frequency. Glad to see the problem is fixed, but you know what to do next time!
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 2 года назад
Doesn't apply here, but worth noting for future reference: if you are getting "see it with your eyes" flickering of that sort with fluorescent lights after a wiring change, turn it off, remove the tubes, and check the voltage. An open neutral or (in the case of 208V, connection to the "wild leg") will produce waves of light in the tubes and the ballast won't like it a bit.
@gregbatch
@gregbatch 2 года назад
@@TKCL I was thinking it was just the output wave form of the generator. Probably more of a square wave. Grid power confirms that. That is not best for some electronics and motors can run hot, so if you anticipate long-term power failures, you want to consider a power conditioner on the generator line in.
@timdouglass9831
@timdouglass9831 2 года назад
@@gregbatch Excellent point. I have never seen a small generator like that one that was approved for running electronics. When I got mine the manual specifically says not to run computers, TVs or other digital electronics off of it without a power conditioner. May also be worth noting that you need to connect your generator frame to your house ground rod. That ground thing may or may not affect the flicker of the lights.
@builderbob4167
@builderbob4167 2 года назад
Man, I'm SO excited for you guys while also a little envious!! One question (and I don't know if you may have already addressed it so forgive me if you have): Is there a particular reason your Laundry Room switches are behind the door? Just curious if there was a door swing change or something. Awesome work, Andrew! Hope you all had a Merry Christmas.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Yes we made a last minute door swing change due to fear of the door always hitting the washer and dryer.
@etruedus
@etruedus 2 года назад
Just found your channel. I have a huge appreciation for how you handled this bad news. Many channels would overdramatize the outcome or worse. I can tell, I am going to like this channel.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you very much, appreciate the support.
@samclements2834
@samclements2834 2 года назад
So sorry you didn’t get the news you hoped for, but you always find a bright side… well, not sure it’s a bright side, but an alternative to accomplish your goal. Seems to be the heart of homesteading… solve one problem, pivot to solve another. Things look great! Thanks as always for taking us along!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
That's exactly right!
@JCWren
@JCWren 2 года назад
I'd consider trenching in some 2/2/2/4 SER in conduit, then once you get real power, pull the 2/2/2/4 out and sell it. You'd have 100A service, no worries about running over it, and when you're done, you'll have conduit for internet, alarm, or whatever between the house and the shop.
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 2 года назад
This. And if you are going to power the barn from the house, then maybe just buy what you need to do that.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Won't use conduit, wire is a little over $200, the conduit is almost $700...Absolutely ridiculous!
@hrlee2381
@hrlee2381 2 года назад
Outstanding step forward. The lights really show off your paint color. It is going to be looking great when your done.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@SctyGrpPowers
@SctyGrpPowers 2 года назад
It might be a nice to have to have a switch for the loft/office area down stairs in case you wanted to light some art work on the walls up there etc. without going up stairs.
@creamysbrianna
@creamysbrianna 2 года назад
Glad you were open to alternatives solutions. Don't ever be afraid to call the inspection office to ask questions about what your doing. They want to help you be successful and will answer your questions to help you understand the codes better and what options you have.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
You are one of the few people that think that way. I have had nothing but a great working relationship with my inspector. Most people hide things, don't call and then wonder why the inspector isn't happy when he or she shows up to the jobsite.
@larrywright1315
@larrywright1315 2 года назад
Another option might be to run the power from the shop with a large enough wire so that when the home is finished you can remove the service from the shop and feed the power from the house back to the shop. This would save you another meter cost.
@mimiso2522
@mimiso2522 2 года назад
Good idea.
@kenhurley4441
@kenhurley4441 2 года назад
Or, with 200 Amp service to the shop, just run power to the house. That depends on the power demands of the house though. I'd NEVER have 2 meters going to my place.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
The house will be fine on power, it's the shop running multiple 240 volt tools, refrigerators, freezers, fans and everything else that I worry about.
@kenhurley4441
@kenhurley4441 2 года назад
@@TKCL Do a load calculation. Also the tools aren't running all of the time and probably only a single item running. Most people couldn't afford 200 amps running all of the time.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
That's very true, but at times with future plans I could have multiple high demand 240v tools running at the same time. We are talking well over 100 amps there
@raffly4449
@raffly4449 2 года назад
You might want to do a permanent interconnection between the shop and house. Leave the breakers open unless needed in an emergency. Just an idea…
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Been thinking about that, especially for outage situations.
@echota23
@echota23 2 года назад
@@TKCL does your panel have feed thru lugs
@sandersmills
@sandersmills 2 года назад
@@TKCL back feed the power to the house from the generator at the shop... low noise and generator out of the weather. I have a shed roof on the side of my shop and do that now.
@chaseoes
@chaseoes 2 года назад
That sounds like it would be another inspection nightmare to do properly
@ryanzynda5114
@ryanzynda5114 2 года назад
The house looked amazing in the end all powered up. I am sorry to hear the bad news about your permanent power to the house.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
It's ok, that's the way it goes.
@betlorpatterson9710
@betlorpatterson9710 2 года назад
Loving the way it looks!!! The greenish paint looks so good!!! Merry Christmas to y'all!!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@arimurdul
@arimurdul 2 года назад
To avoid or at least reduce the flicker, you can do a number of things: -Reducing the recording frames per second, the FPS, of the camera. -Adjusting the shutter speed: At 60 Hz so you will need a frame rate of 30p with a shutter speed divisible by 60 - 1/60, 1/120, etc. At 50 Hz, you need 25 FPS at a shutter speed like 1/50 or 1/100. -Moving closer or farther from the light, and adjusting the aperture accordingly. -Increasing or decreasing the brightness of the lights. All of these steps allow for the frequency of the AC current powering the LED to match as closely as possible to the FPS of the camera. Those LEDs that run on drivers that switch the current to direct current, or DC, don’t have this problem. Some power supply drivers rectify the AC current from 50 or 60 Hz, increasing it up to 120 Hz, which becomes even hard for cameras to pick up, and fixes the problem. Are you saying you have LEDs on DC power supply and are still running into this problem? In that case, your LEDs might be hooked onto pulse width modulation (PWM) for dimming setups. With PWM, the LED again goes through periods of on and off cycles in the circuit, that can be captured by the camera as it records. SOURCE: ledlightinginfo.com/why-do-led-lights-flicker-on-video
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Awesome information, I'm saving this! Thanks
@rupe53
@rupe53 2 года назад
Some good pointers, but one thing you missed is that gen set is probably not exactly on frequency with 60 Hz power. IOW, if it's running at 61 - 62 Hz (normal with a mechanical gov at part load) it may still cause the flickering lights.
@arimurdul
@arimurdul 2 года назад
I'm not a professional electrician nor generator specialist, so I can't comment on generator output frequency. I'm photographer who also shots videos occasionally, so I have experience / knowledge about lighting and how to prevent flickering during video shots. Added the link just to support / prove what I was going to say.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
I ran the house off of my shops power and the flicker went away. It's definitely the generator.
@rupe53
@rupe53 2 года назад
@@TKCL ... I did gen sets for 25 years, which is how I know about the frequency issue. I also dabbled in electronics and photography so know about shutter speed versus frame rate. Did video back around 1970.
@larrysutton2001
@larrysutton2001 2 года назад
You’re going to need all that heavy gauge wire for a pool pump someday anyway. You might as well own it already.
@jason27swg
@jason27swg 2 года назад
If he can find it
@larrysutton2001
@larrysutton2001 2 года назад
@@jason27swg and that’s the sad truth.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Oh boy you are correct... A couple of days checking two states and no one had any. Got very lucky and caught the Lowe's delivery truck dropping a spool off. I got my 125ft!
@larrysutton2001
@larrysutton2001 2 года назад
It’s a sad world when you have to have septic at the same time as electric because so many people promised to get the septic and never did
@johntaylor1947
@johntaylor1947 2 года назад
I am a electrician and have built two homes. One house has a large shop near the house something like what you have. I ran pertinent power to the shop and buss taped that 200 amp panel and ran underground permanent cable to the house, so just one meter. Also buy a inexpensive plug-in plug tester it will thoroughly test each outlet and be able to test GFIs. The inspector will use one when you get your final electrical inspection.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thanks for the tips!
@bobwild9995
@bobwild9995 2 года назад
@@TKCL Take John Taylor's advice, I had build rural houses in the past for other's and had done underground services from the street back, with mid point meter cabinet/disconnects to feed a future shop and to feed the house, never a problem with inspector that was happy as long and you installed extra ground rods, more that required. The one house I had the power turn on before the house was even framed, we ran off the disconnects one GFI outlet building, and once the house was "weathered" I had the Panel hot and inspected with the rough-in. You can do the same with a 200 amp panel in the garage/barn you have, and either overhead to the barn, or underground to the pole.
@jackrobinson6277
@jackrobinson6277 2 года назад
Great job as always. Be proud mate. Merry Christmas Andrew, Tiffany and Bullitt.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@fillg
@fillg 2 года назад
The flicker from your lights could be because you were running off of the generator. They don't always put out exactly 60 hertz and if you're filming at 30 or 60 fps and the electric is running at 59 or maybe 61 hertz I could see that causing a problem. I'm far from being an electronics expert though.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
I think you are correct, I didn't notice much flicker yesterday when NOT being on generator power.
@kylereese4822
@kylereese4822 2 года назад
​@@TKCL Fun fact in the UK your wall sockets are 100% illegal due to electric shock risk.... even the plus are illegal too.... Here we have 3 pin plug/sockets the large Earth pin opens the Live/Neutral holes and the plug has plastic covering half the Live/Neutral pin so when the earth pin goes in it`s still not live aka you can not touch live parts...
@kylereese4822
@kylereese4822 2 года назад
@@TKCL Why not go solar/battery ??
@1978jra
@1978jra 2 года назад
Kind of right, except grid frequency is also not spot on 60Hz it can vary. Not so much and fast as generator power, but still. In the long run average frequency will be adjusted to 60Hz on the grid, but any random moment it might be something else near 60Hz. You can try to avoid flicker with camera settings (also changing to flicker free lights) slower shutter speed should be better for flicker, but it means more motion blur. Depending settings, camera can do this also automaticly or even accidently depending light conditions.
@quademasters249
@quademasters249 2 года назад
@@kylereese4822 You're suggesting he spend $20-40K for a solar install instead of $200 for a long extension cable to the work shop? There's nothing cheap about solar power installs.
@benjaminreinhardt259
@benjaminreinhardt259 2 года назад
I'd definitely run the temp power cables across the lawn. We do it in the ship yard all the time. Take great care with the cable to prevent damage, and then sell it when you are done.
@PlanetMojo
@PlanetMojo 2 года назад
I have a temporary wire from the meter pedestal to my new post frame woodshop. I just did it a month ago or-so, and it costed a fortune for the 6 ga. wire! I had to search for the wire because the stores are out of everything! I also ran things off of a heavy (10 ga) extension cord, but needed 220v for my machines. There were no inspections at all in this area until the year we built - lucky us 😉
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
I feel you, finding supplies has been a nightmare.
@sagecleveland3953
@sagecleveland3953 2 года назад
As a new home builder in Texas I love these videos!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you for watching, learning a lot building my first home. Sharing all my learnings good or bad with anyone that's curious.
@jimanon5681
@jimanon5681 2 года назад
Wow! I love the lights that you have installed.. It looks awesome. L.E.D. technically has come along way. Have a Merry Christmas 🎄
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@HEAVYMETALJSTYLES
@HEAVYMETALJSTYLES 2 года назад
All the best of luck and blessings. Looks like a huge job has already been done.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you, it's been quite the experience building my own home. I have truly enjoyed the process.
@TomCrossSound
@TomCrossSound 2 года назад
I would definitely recommend running Pvc from your shop to your house and doing a full 100 amp service from your garage that will only have one utility bill. You would have to check on what you're allowed they might not consider that a temporary power source though. Check with any local electrical contractor they should have the knowledge to get you through
@jamesray9009
@jamesray9009 2 года назад
I have 100+Ft 220v extension cords, I made from leftover water well wire.. I tested each one for resistance.. worked good for last 4 years :)
@TheKamakuraGardener
@TheKamakuraGardener 2 года назад
You’ve been making great progress since I last checked in; well done! 😃🐶👍🏾
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you
@SctyGrpPowers
@SctyGrpPowers 2 года назад
House looks terrific all lit up!!
@TheSoloAsylum
@TheSoloAsylum 2 года назад
I remember asking about if you were doing septic. Also if you get temp power on your pole, when you're done with it, just never call to turn it off...
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
I'm going to sell it, could use the money.
@jeffreymurdock8366
@jeffreymurdock8366 2 года назад
Those particular led lights are pretty good. I use what are probably the exact same lights at my apartments and love them. They do really good with a dimmer.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Good to know, I love the color changing ability.
@oldmcdoodlefarm
@oldmcdoodlefarm 2 года назад
Hey Andrew. Love watching your progress. My Wife and I just bought 40 AC up near you and would be interested in the power pole when you are done with it.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Shoot me a email at kelleyscountry@gmail.com
@JMJWill
@JMJWill 2 года назад
So sorry that the code delayed or put an added workaround to your build. Positive side, no problems in your electrical wiring. Any who, Merry Christmas.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
That's right! Merry Christmas
@fastx1914
@fastx1914 2 года назад
Interesting. In North East Arizona, we had the same issue with Septic as well. In fact, you could not start building without the septic permit and perc test completed. Then, before home is finished septic needs to be completed. Only difference was we did not have the driveway regulations. House is looking great!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
We are required to have septic permit and test before a building permit can be issued. I just didn't realize the system had to be operational before power could be turned on. Oh well!
@kgroombr
@kgroombr 2 года назад
I thought it was just me. It took me almost six months after I thought I would get power until I got power. I had lots of drama as well. Best of luck getting yours going.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
I've already powered the house off of my shop for the time being.
@LeewardStudios
@LeewardStudios 2 года назад
Yep same in TN on the septic system for electric. I was able to pull 200 amps for my camper hook up but for a house septic first. Sorry man.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Only allowed 100 amp here for campers, different rules everywhere.
@OldCritters
@OldCritters 2 года назад
Ah nice lights camera action !! We have the exact same generator! 👍💞
@stuartkorte1642
@stuartkorte1642 Год назад
This episode was very informative to me. I’m about to begin with accessory dwelling (shop) then build house afterwards. Luckily I have water and a service pole. I need septic so glad you covered that.
@TKCL
@TKCL Год назад
At least in Florida you do to get final hookup.
@stuartkorte1642
@stuartkorte1642 Год назад
@@TKCL I’m in Florida, couple of counties to the west of you so great heads up for me. Another question, no issues from building dept. doing your own electrical (to code)?
@TKCL
@TKCL Год назад
Zero issues, electrical permit was issued to me in my name. All permits were as a owner builder. That will vary by county, yours might not allow that.
@ameliasonger3758
@ameliasonger3758 2 года назад
From my house to yours Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@MikeZMonroe
@MikeZMonroe 2 года назад
You might consider a motion detector light switch at top of fold down stairs. Likely not necessary once your permanent stairs are in. A major convenience when your holding on navigating your body up into attic.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
I agree and have been thinking about that
@Falconlibrary
@Falconlibrary 2 года назад
Props for getting the Champion dual fuel generator. That's a good investment for emergencies after you get your permanent power turned on.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Hurricane alley here, I've been through enough outages that the generator is a must.
@aardvark121212
@aardvark121212 2 года назад
Wow. It looks like you have made some really good design decisions along the home building path. I've been at this game for 50 years and just received a new design commission last Monday. So, no retirement yet at 74. It keeps the brain working. It has been my experience that most code enforcement authorities do not grant a final approval and, thus, withhold an electrical approval, until all aspects of a home are in a safe and "ready to occupy" condition. The electrical approval seems to be their final ace up the sleeve in order to prevent the inevitable ones who try to short change the system in some devious way. You would not believe some of the things which I seen residential and commercial contractors try to achieve. The bottom line is that the electrical inspector is not picking on you. You appear to be doing an excellent job and know what you are doing. He is just doing his job. Good luck as you move into the home stretch.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
That's the feeling I got too, people try to move in early once power is granted.
@johnweaver1198
@johnweaver1198 2 года назад
Happy new year. I would have never even thought about Septic.... Bet most people would not have seen that coming....
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
It was mentioned on the phone to me when I called for inspection.
@W9HJBill
@W9HJBill 2 года назад
I just added a shop to my property about 60 feet from house. It's opposite of what you are doing but still applies. A buddy of mine dug a 3' deep trench and we put in mains power as well as a 2" conduit. The nice thing about the conduit is that we put in fiber optic cable, CAT6 network cable, and pull strings for future. You could do something like that and then not worry about tripping over electrical cords and you can always disconnect it when you don't need it. If the future, if you want to consolidate to 1 meter for both the house and the shop, you can then now feed the shop from the house. Alternatively, you could put in a whole house generator at either the house or the shop and use that buried line to feed the other building with a bypass interlock. Options, options, options.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
That's the exact plan I'm leaning towards.
@rongray4847
@rongray4847 2 года назад
Hi Andrew I feel bad for you with not getting full power hook up. At least there is a temparary way to over come that for now. There is always somthing ☹️. Your home is looking great and what a difference with the lights on. I am so happy for you and Tiffany with your new home which I really love. Great video Andrew and again Merry Xmas and Happy New Year. Take care from South Western Ontario. 🇨🇦
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you! Merry Christmas
@davehenderson47240
@davehenderson47240 2 года назад
Progress looks awesome am excited for ya. Merry Christmas!!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@jason27swg
@jason27swg 2 года назад
Yes sir Mr inspector I have septic. Show him a corn cob and 5 gallon bucket and smile! Merry Christmas
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Lol!
@johnbrewer1430
@johnbrewer1430 2 года назад
Here in TN it's the exact same thing, sans the driveway in our county. When I first built the cabin, I was allowed a "temporary" meter which will become the "permanent" meter one day. I had this temp power for over 7 months with a camper on my property, with no deadline implied. I got distracted with life and had to move two hours away to work, so the cabin got put on hold. Don't know how long I could get "temporary" power now, it's been 10 years, if I were to go finish it. No other requirements like a driveway. I did have to have a footer/basement dug for the 911 registry and address. The funny thing is I moved the building from when that was set up, but if EMS can't figure out that the building, which is 75 feet from the original GPS coordinates, then we need different EMS people.
@jbodden6977
@jbodden6977 2 года назад
when I need to call ems I turn on all the hazard lights on all my vehicles in the yard...
@lisacastano1064
@lisacastano1064 2 года назад
In my county we're not even supposed to camp on the property until the septic is installed but we're going to camp anyway need to make sure that's really where the house should be before we start building.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Oh wow, that's crazy! No camping
@martygibbons1295
@martygibbons1295 2 года назад
The house came along so much. I’ve been subscribed since 800 subs too
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you very much for the support!
@thomasfelkel1388
@thomasfelkel1388 2 года назад
Merry Christmas the house looks great with all the lights turned on
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@jgivens1227
@jgivens1227 2 года назад
MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄🎁 TO YOU ALL. Please take care and be safe!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@martyreiber8945
@martyreiber8945 2 года назад
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family 🎄⛄
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@barbaraharrold5361
@barbaraharrold5361 2 года назад
Bummer about not getting the power:( but thank goodness for generators:) it looks Hyatt with the lights on:)/tfs God Bless and have a very Merry Christmas with your family:)
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@dennisvestby4432
@dennisvestby4432 2 года назад
Looking I. Am happy for you, beautiful house.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you
@keithruss4279
@keithruss4279 2 года назад
the attic space could be used as a higher ground spot if you have flooding all that is missing is the sound proof closet to run the generator
@jessenester1760
@jessenester1760 2 года назад
I have had a guest house.two guest homes running off a primary homes meter panel for 7 years.no issues.and the run is mixed 10 and 12 awg. The larger of the two guest homes has central air.still no issues!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Wow thats light duty wire for hvac systems, it has to be maxed out at times.
@thtadthtshldntbe
@thtadthtshldntbe 2 года назад
get spot lights to saturate the area. Basically they will fill up the gaps in the LED light that your camera is picking up
@seangrey3505
@seangrey3505 2 года назад
We had to run wire along the ground for temp power had the wire already so that was a plus but I did run it in conduit anyway along the ground for a little extra protection
@kchedville
@kchedville 2 года назад
LOL, Man i feel for you guys. I had the Shell of my Pole Barn put up, nothing else, then had the Power Company hook me up to Electricity, but the Inspector did tell me my Out House Hole was not the required 6 foot depth, so i had to fix that within a month or they would shut off my power. Other than that it took me 1.5 years to finally be able to move in cause of my 7 days Offshore and 7 Days home work schedule. Good Luck, am enjoying your Videos.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you! We have passed all inspections and are currently living in our home. We still have a ton of projects left to do.
@kevinthompson4690
@kevinthompson4690 2 года назад
Here we are not allowed to run URD wiring on top of the ground, and I think with some research you will find that it is not per NEC. However under a supervised situation I would not have a problem doing so. Cords however are made for this but are way more pricey. One other option if possible is to support the URD in the air to the house if you have some poles. Hey its temporary.
@randy206
@randy206 2 года назад
You can also just hook up two extension cords to your panel, one heavy cord from a 20 amp circuit and one from another 20 amp circuit that is on the 2nd phase from your shop.
@rustypumphrey9166
@rustypumphrey9166 2 года назад
Brother had the same situation run a piece of Romex to a plastic water line it protects it well I even went with thinner wire considered it my fusible link worked fine for months all through the winter for everything I needed in the house until I got my original power Good luck brother! The cheap black roll up plastic water tube line super inexpensive!!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you
@JimmyHensley36
@JimmyHensley36 2 года назад
Merry Christmas Tiffany and Andrew
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas
@mikeanslave1797
@mikeanslave1797 2 года назад
It’s just as bad where I live we had to have septic and a water well in place before they would give us temporary power.
@erikandreassen6531
@erikandreassen6531 2 года назад
I feel for you. Down where I am you can get a builders connection which is at a fixed charged rate. If you have a good one it'll give you between 60 to 100 amps at 240 until you've finished building then you go on to the standard grid rate. Not sure you could run everything at the same time but being frugal you can manage. There is a sorta time limit on a builders pole but it's in years not months.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
60 amps of 240 is plenty to run hvac and a few tools.
@erikandreassen6531
@erikandreassen6531 2 года назад
Your awesome. No harm in asking your suppler. You will get a yes or no. If you don't ask you'll never know
@TrustingJesus67
@TrustingJesus67 2 года назад
Merry Christmas and Happy New year. God Bless
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@andychristopher3887
@andychristopher3887 2 года назад
Merry Christmas Andrew and Tiffany
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas
@5150cash
@5150cash 2 года назад
Man those light are bright bright.... I had to wear my sunglasses 😎👍🏽.
@patriciamuskevitsch8359
@patriciamuskevitsch8359 2 года назад
You have a heartbeat...awsome
@richardbedard1245
@richardbedard1245 2 года назад
I knew I would need a septic system before I even bought my property. It was the first thing to be installed on my property. The second part was the RV power pole that had to be near the septic. I can't believe you got this far without knowing all the conditions to be met before you get electric. When dealing with bureaucracy there are many hoops. Maybe that's why so many are building "off-grid".
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
All that is required here to start is getting a septic permit and soil test. I have both!
@richardbedard1245
@richardbedard1245 2 года назад
The soil test was done as art of the perk test for the septic system. I couldn't get an electric permit until the entire septic system was installed, fully operational, and inspected! I had to have a pump type system.
@slthbob
@slthbob 2 года назад
I sympathize with your prior ignorance and agree it is a bummer... but it is a self inflicted one friend... hopefully your video will give others a clue so they can avoid the same issues... +5 bonus kewl points for biting the bullet and telling your story
@robertchaffee5662
@robertchaffee5662 2 года назад
Coming along nicely!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thanks
@pesthunteroutdoors
@pesthunteroutdoors 2 года назад
I know what you're going through the power situation I had to run 3 months on a generator while I was rewiring the house
@pesthunteroutdoors
@pesthunteroutdoors 2 года назад
I was not able to get temporary power either
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
That's crazy!
@jamescopeland5358
@jamescopeland5358 2 года назад
Most codes do require the septic system be installed. Most homes will run on 100 amps. So, I'd go get a run of #2 al urd (2 hots, 1 neutral and ground. Put the sub spoiler on your tractor plow a trench the go back tie the wire on pull it thru make sure you have enough on both ends for hook up
@CrystalParanormally
@CrystalParanormally 2 года назад
Good to know you at least have some options!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Yes!
@davidburkhart9184
@davidburkhart9184 2 года назад
Looks good Andrew, that septic thing is new to me merry Christmas
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Merry Christmas
@frrapp2366
@frrapp2366 2 года назад
i like the number of outlets in the kitchen , putting in a shop and have 2 gang outlets about every 6 ft
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Our last home didn't have many and all were on the same breaker. It drove me crazy and I swore my next home wouldn't be tripping breakers.
@rocktech7144
@rocktech7144 2 года назад
All of that has to do with occupancy. Safe occupancy includes septic, proper wiring, driveway, and sometimes fire alarms. This all depends on local building codes. My county doesn't even have a building dept. Sometimes that is nice.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
I wish it was that way here. He knows we are not moving in early.
@frankmunoz2232
@frankmunoz2232 2 года назад
Great job beautiful house
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you, doing my best.
@Brightstarlivesteam
@Brightstarlivesteam 2 года назад
If you intend burying cable in the ground then you need to use armoured cable and cover with an approved marker tape, placed 12 inched above the cable. The steel armoured sheath is used as the earth core. You will need 3 core cable to provide 240 volts. 2 x 120v and 1 x neutral or 4 core if you are not using the sheath as the main earth.
@ZAPATTUBE
@ZAPATTUBE 2 года назад
You are doing a good job.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
Thank you for watching
@BlackHoleForge
@BlackHoleForge 2 года назад
Have you thought about adding some solar panels to the roof, and when you finally get full electricity installed, it can be a backup source.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 года назад
I've kicked it around, but electricity is very cheap here. Hard to justify those systems, especially with my backup generators.
@anthonymarino4260
@anthonymarino4260 4 месяца назад
looking great. all in time
@TKCL
@TKCL 4 месяца назад
We've been 8n the house two years now, it was a great learning experience.
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