The Iron Claw (2023) Movie Review | Zac Efron | Jeremy Allen White | Von Erich Family | A24

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Today I'm reviewing "The Iron Claw" biographical sports drama film written and directed by Sean Durkin. It is based on the life of professional wrestler Kevin Von Erich and the Von Erich family. The film stars Zac Efron, Jeremy Allen White, Harris Dickinson, Maura Tierney, Holt McCallany, and Lily James.
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The true story of the inseparable Von Erich brothers, who make history in the intensely competitive world of professional wrestling in the early 1980s. Through tragedy and triumph, under the shadow of their domineering father and coach, the brothers seek larger-than-life immortality on the biggest stage in sports.
Written and Directed by
Sean Durkin
Starring
Zac Efron
Jeremy Allen White
Harris Dickinson
Maura Tierney
Holt McCallany
Lily James
Cinematography
Mátyás Erdély
Music by
Richard Reed Parry
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@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

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@brandoncollins1225 6 месяцев назад

I grew up in southern Oklahoma during this time period. These boys were gods to us kids. I got to see Kevin, Kerry, Mike, and Chris live several times. I never saw David wrestle because he was dead by the time I got into it all. When Mike killed himself, it was horrific. When Chris killed himself, it was like a nightmare. Then, when Kerry killed himself it was just completely shocking and sad. We all were just waiting for Kevin to die at that point, and luckily, he managed to survive. Leaving Chris out of this story is incredibly disrespectful. Chris was very short, with asthma and brittle bones. Yet, he loved wrestling even more than his brothers or Fritz did. He wrestled as a tag team partner of Mike's against Percy Pringle and Stone Cold Steve Austin. All he ever wanted was to measure up to his brothers, but he was physically unable to do so. He was left out in life, and now he's being left out in death. That's horrible. I still want to see this film, but the Chris exclusion pisses me off.

@jyesucevitz 6 месяцев назад

the whole story is tragic. I started watching WCCW about a year before David died in Japan. so by that time I was already a fan of the Von Eric's. His death hurt. then over years it was suicide after suicide. Kevin being the last man standing. I couldn't imagine living with that pain in your heart every day. RIP Von Eric Brothers.

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Yeah very tragic and the ending of this will hit you in the feels

@harshtur 5 месяцев назад

I really want to see this movie but it's not yet released in India

@AnnetteMichelle 6 месяцев назад

Learning of each brother's tragedy was heart wrenching. I am so glad that Kevin seems to have had a nice life after persevering through his struggles and losing his brothers.

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Yeah it’s extremely traumatic and Kevin’s story was handled so well.

@dellcargill5698 6 месяцев назад

Dont forget about Chris

@whitebread940 6 месяцев назад

Kevin always seemed like he was the leader back when I watched them on Tv. Kevin was the leader, Kerry was the muscle, Mike was the young protege brother & David was the fallen legend. Fritz would show up occasionally and I never understood why he was getting attention away from the wrestlers. Was the best time to watch pro wrestling compared to today.

@AnnetteMichelle 6 месяцев назад

@ConwayTwitter That's beautiful 😌

@josephberry7605 5 месяцев назад

God bless Kevin vonerich he been through a lot

@joejoebrian1014 6 месяцев назад

Something often overlooked is the wrestling scene before the Von Erich brothers. You had barrel chested, grizzled, older journeymen topping the cards. Dimly lit arenas. No ring music. And minimal story line focus. World Class came along and put lights everywhere, put mics under the ring. And put cameras right up on the wrestlers. And had some of the most memorable storylines in all of wrestling history. Suddenly the Von Erich brothers became the prototypes for what promoters all over the world began looking for. They were game changers. They deserve to have their story told. I can't wait to see it. I don't like that they wrote Chris out. I'm assuming they go Kevin's blessing. I won't let it affect my opinion of the movie. That's just how I feel.

@michaellee8815 6 месяцев назад

The director said it was the toughest decision of his career, and that there just wasn’t enough time in 2 hours to put a whole other character in, also his “arc” was so similar to Mikes, and that the audience wouldn’t be able to handle ANOTHER brother dying

@lamarRichardIII 6 месяцев назад

The director said he kept him out because it would be too tragic, and worried people wouldn’t believe it. Which I understand but I wish he did. The movie was great. Had me, and my two friends who don’t watch wrestling crying. Cast was solid, and it really makes you appreciate your family, and loved ones.

@BigNasty20 6 месяцев назад

Being someone who knew the story prior to films release, I thought I’d be more upset about Chris being excluded. But after seeing the film, I think they did a really solid job of infusing his spirit into the character of Micheal. So while Chris may not have been in the film physically, the character of Micheal gives the best quality of each brother. Was incredibly pleased with how the whole story was handled.

@reneeheknowsmyname6771 6 месяцев назад

I became a Von Erich fan sometime after David passed. Kerry was my favorite and pretty much still is (in my heart). The Von Erich's didn't wrestle much in the Houston, Tx area. However!!! When I saw that Kerry was scheduled to wrestle in Houston, I was like!! I'm there!!! In the early 90's I had the privilege of meeting Kerry at the grocery store. He was a very nice and super friendly (🥰😍) To this day, I still have his autograph! And then when the news came out about Kerry, I was so heartbroken!! I was heartbroken with everything that happen to this family. People compare the brothers to the Kennedy family. I've always said they are like the Bee Gee's. Both Kevin and Barry are the only ones left!! Kevin said after the primer here in Dallas, that he truly loved the movie. And that they got it right!! So I'm looking forward to seeing it! For me leaving Chris out, really is okay. Chris had alot of health issues and was kinda in and out of the ring. Bless his heart, he tried. He just wanted to be with his brothers and just couldn't do it!

@mthernandez7591 5 месяцев назад

Lots to unpack in this movie... I didn't know anything about the Von Erichs or the curse so watching the movie was so intense for me. Every time something happened was really hard for me to watch without feeling like I was going to cry. At the last 5 minutes of the film I couldn't hold it back anymore. Such a good movie I highly recommend it.

@longsocks1996 6 месяцев назад

I think stories like this should be a two part movie so scenes can breathe and they can build up to other events gradually. With the way you explained it the writers and directors could have just been more patient. I know it’s going to be a good movie regardless though. I still can’t wait to see the film

@TaitsTake 6 месяцев назад

“A stone cold father” well done 😏 but yea great review. And we do “hate” the dad, but in true good character building form he has so many flashes of what he thinks is being a good dad.

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Thank you, nobody caught that stone cold reference 👀🤣

@TaitsTake 6 месяцев назад

@@MovieFiles they not watching like me 🤭

@aidankeohane3370 6 месяцев назад

I only recently learned about the Von Erichs through Dark Side of the Ring. I got into wrestling in the early 2000s so by then WCW was gone and Vince pretty much ran everything. I knew about Hulk and Andre and all those guys of course but my knowledge of the territories was limited. The documentary was heartbreaking to watch. Very excited to see this movie.

@MsJimmysgirl 6 месяцев назад

I lived in Dallas during the height of the Von Erich's popularity, watching WCCW every week on a local TV channel. When I saw the trailer, as soon as I saw the title, I knew exactly who it was about. I am looking forward to seeing the movie but I know that it is going to a emotional ride for me knowing already the tragedies. I did see an interview with Kevin in Hawaii and if he was happy with the film, I know I will be. I can understand why they didn't include Chris in the story. Yes he was their brother but he wasn't a part of wrestling because of medical conditions.

@Sisyphusquit 6 месяцев назад

Did the Dallas fans turn on the von erics some after the reveal of Lance von Erich and Fritz's fake heart attack?

@ZehrifiedTV 6 месяцев назад

ABSOLUTELY gonna see this movie next week!! Never got the chance to watch WCCW when I was a kid, but would buy wrestling magazines and read about the Von Erichs...around the time that Mike had passed (so articles were comparing him to David) and Chris was trying so hard to take on the family biz. And then Kerry moved to the WWF, but they would NOT call him a Von Erich nor let him use the Claw as his finisher. Then Chris passed (again, all I could watch was WWF so I learned this through wrestling mags) and, honestly, I grew out of my desire to watch pro wrestling. Not sure how I heard of Kerry's death...might not have been until Dark Side of the Ring doc! I can understand them leaving Chris Von Erich out of this film. We're talking about almost every son/brother passing away...and in real life, not fiction. There's only so much tragedy that can be portrayed without movie goers just walking out. I do think the cumulative effect of blow upon blow upon blow was a factor in this family's downward spiral. The perseverance of Kevin Adkisson, enduring so much grief and so much loss in his life is inspiration to everyone going through anything. Can't wait to see this movie!

@danieljoseph4625 6 месяцев назад

Man, I grew up watching WCCW on TV every week (never got to go to a match in person), and the Von Erichs were my favorite. I really hope this film gives their story the justice it deserves. Great review, by the way. 👍

@lamarRichardIII 6 месяцев назад

It does. If your able for sure go watch it. It was so well done, and of course extremely depressing. It does make you appreciate your family, and loved ones. It really puts into perspective how fragile life is, and never knowing what others are going through.

@glennmyers3127 6 месяцев назад

As a kid that grew up in North Texas and knew the story, movie was well done. I mainly wanted to see for the nostalgia effect. If the movie was gonna tell all it would have to be 4 hours long, and all would need therapy after seeing it. But several times while watching the film I was a 10 year old kid again!

@reganbowen8828 6 месяцев назад

I've been waiting on this movie for over a year. It sux that they left out Chris. Kerry was very close to Chris, when you see old footage of the family, Kerry and Chris are always together posing, lifting weights and hanging out. Kevin is truly inspiring as a man, and as a father. To survive these tragedies and come out the other side with such strength and grace and to have such a loving attitude is truly remarkable. I hope this film breaks all the box office records but ultimately I can't wait to see it!

@leifjohnson5925 6 месяцев назад

Having listened to the Lapsed Fan podcast's series on this whole Von Erich tragedy, one of the things I was really looking for in this film was something I was glad got highlighted: the despicable sequence where Mike, having clearly suffered in his mental capacity in the aftermath of his coma, was nonetheless thrust in front of the cameras to assure everyone that he was going to be getting back in the ring in no time. I thought the portrayal of Fritz here was tremendous, and was actually my personal choice for best acting job (with plenty of respect to the other actors as well). He nailed the role, and it's obviously a crucial role to making the film work.

@TalkSickMass 6 месяцев назад

Kevin Von Erich apparently had to be comforted at times during scenes involving Fritz.

@phillipweber6059 6 месяцев назад

I agree. The portrayal of Fritz was immense in setting the tone for the film.

@TrueBagPipeRock 6 месяцев назад

Will be seeing this movie. I like this guy's reviews. Agree about Efron. Tbh, I never cared for him at all in anything, but this role fits him so well, that he actually turned into a real actor. What a great decision made for him in this. Impressed.

@AnnetteMichelle 6 месяцев назад

My brothers and I were huge fans of the Von Erich and wrestling in general. We saw Kerry wrestle at the Kiel Auditorium in the early 80s. Which was AWESOME!!! 😝

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Very cool!

@jadapandy 6 месяцев назад

I'm not into wrestling, but remember these brothers. I knew as soon as I saw the trailer when it came out I wanted to see it. This is the 3rd positive review I've seen. Good to hear.

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Yeah it’s definitely a film worth seeing

@AnnetteMichelle 6 месяцев назад

Giving each other the "Iron Claw" was a normal thing in my family. 😂

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

😂

@dredre1726 6 месяцев назад

Love the Von Erichs. Can’t wait to see this

@girliecry 6 месяцев назад

I have 2 older brothers, and was constantly given "The Claw" as a kid in the early 80's!

@woocoheed 6 месяцев назад

I didn’t know the story until recently. Started watching wrestling in like 1998

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Yeah it’s a tragic story but definitely recommend checking out the movie.

@Blaneyryan-iy3pk 6 месяцев назад

Guess I'm old I started 9yrs before you Ha

@hersehill3888 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the review . Good job 👏

@jefferycrim1265 6 месяцев назад

Very familiar with this family with growing up watching them on TV in Dallas and in Fort Worth.

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

You plan on checking out the movie?

@lyndakozar3329 6 месяцев назад

I watched the Von Erichs ringside many times at the Sportatorium as a kid. I can't wait to see this movie!

@ZachAttackReviews 6 месяцев назад

Great review dude. Im excited to check this out soon. As a wrestling fan this is exactly what this story needs to be. Sucks that its rushed just a bit.

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Appreciate it Zach.

@billsterling1321 6 месяцев назад

With respect... Chris's life , although tragic, did not have any significant impact on the business. We, the fans, did not have the same connection . Plus, by the time of his passing, we were kinda numb. In truth, it could have a movie on each of the wrestling brothers. Or a series.

@Thathorrorguy12FU 6 месяцев назад

They left out Chris. His story was important. He was too small but he still went and he tried so hard. His bones were brittle and he really wanted to because wrestler but he had a disease his bones broke. He realized that his dreams of being a pro wrestler were over. He blew his brains out in the barn. I can only imagine Jeremy Allen White as Jerry must be insane. I think this movie is really gonna shock anyone who is in cold and never heard of the Von Erich story. Be prepared.

@dellcargill5698 6 месяцев назад

Agree why no chris

@ryankeefe2102 6 месяцев назад

@dellcargill5698 honestly I agree that Chris should be in the movie but I think even his story might be too dark

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Appreciate you sharing your thoughts

@LaptopLarry330 6 месяцев назад

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@orlandosantiago4063 6 месяцев назад

Chris Von Erich is understandably cut out to me. He had a health issue where his bones break easier than most people but his dad made him wrestle anyway. Kevin was also the one who found Chris the night he ended himself. Being that the story from is from Kevin’s point of view and knowing he’ll actually see the movie. I think it was a good idea out of respect for Kevin

@Imhim247 6 месяцев назад

I agree

@BigLu157 6 месяцев назад

love the channel ❤

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for the support

@genxtasy9914 4 месяца назад

Great review. I teared up a bunch of times. Favorite movie of 2023 and i pretty much saw everything

@MovieFiles 4 месяца назад

Yeah the last 15mins had me crying Lily a baby

@TheFatGandalf 6 месяцев назад

Outstanding review. Can’t wait for this one.

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Thank so much and definitely come back and let me know your thoughts after you’ve seen 👍🏾

@intelligencecycle3523 6 месяцев назад

Saw The Iron Claw Yesterday Elliott gotta say the movie was absolutely inspiring, Enthusiastic with Heavy Aspirations of the Tragic story of The Von Erich family running the NWA wrestling business. Kevin Von Erich worked his way towards the top but it comes with a burden of struggles also losing his brothers. Was tough to get through in Life for him. Seeing the legendary Wrestling competitors portrayed made it worthwhile. 4.5/5 ✨✨✨✨

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Well said my friend and I’m glad you enjoyed it

@eriaswright299 6 месяцев назад

I grew up in the 80’s and a huge WWF (not WWE) fan. I was super excited seeing the trailer of this film. I can’t wait to see it.

@colstonlchinese Месяц назад

I was deeply moved by this film.

@KingPookienation 5 месяцев назад

I had no clue Kenny motorcycle accident and losing his foot!

@LukeKhaing 6 месяцев назад

I'm very familiar with this family I watched during their hey day in the 80s.

@andrebell9901 6 месяцев назад

As a Fan Who actually Grew up in 70's & 80's Wrasslin as we called it The Von Erich's were Bigger than Hulk Hogan & a Bit over The Road Warriors ,when David passed in 84 was Sad & Then Mike in 87 ,Chris Death was more of Of him feeling like he was a Failure which was Terrible ! But Kerry's Death was Super SAD ,Because we didn't know of his Depression Bless that Family ! Those Dudes were ICONIC !!!

@paulcolon6749 6 месяцев назад

Just saw it and I thought it was great!! Enough wrestling nods to keep a fan interested but at the end of the day, it’s about a family and their dynamics. I did notice son time line inconsistencies and the lack of Chris Von Erich was extremely noticeable.

@roachasaurus2020 6 месяцев назад

One of my favorite movies this year. The only part that almost took me out was the Ric Flair promo, the passion just didn't come through the screen.

@noellecassella5782 6 месяцев назад

I like the way you broke this down

@ironclaw79 6 месяцев назад

It would been cool if they could have a longer mini series version.

@user-iu4ws6vh5s 6 месяцев назад

Terrific review, per usual. As a kid I watched WWE. I’m looking forward to seeing this.

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Appreciate it

@lindadane3655 6 месяцев назад

I missed Chris too. I just watched The Van Erich Family on RU-vid featuring Kevin Von Erich and his telling of what happened within the family, including the first born brother, Jack. This is how I found out about the movie. But after listening to some of the reviews (not the trailers, yet), I want to see it but feel there's disappointment that will come with it. And leaving out Chris confused me because I knew there were 6 boys. They even included a picture of Jack, which is cool, but leaving off Chris--I'm not feeling that at all. I hope Kevin or a wrestling historian write a book on this family. But how can I give a true opinion if I don't watch the movie. Thank you for your review, it's enlightening.

@robertnguyen9493 6 месяцев назад

I saw it in theaters, and the ending brought me to tears. I believe that having a wife and kids of his own is what saved Kevin Von Erich from falling down the same spiral as his brothers.

@sunnni_ 6 месяцев назад

I had no clue who these men were as I grew up watching only WWE (stone cold, undertaker, the rock time) but I am going to see this this weekend and I am excited. I was confused why they left the brother Chris out, as a screenwriter, I felt the director could easily still include him in the movie and it still be how he wanted but his direction. Can't wait to see it

@michaellee8815 6 месяцев назад

Dude that’s a sick Batman shirt lol I want that!

@tiffanyrose9446 6 месяцев назад

Looking forward to seeing this movie. I after I watched the documentary very interesting and sad story

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Yeah I didn’t know all the details and yeah, it’s extremely sad.

@michaellee8815 6 месяцев назад

The director said writing out Chris was the toughest decision of his career, and that there just wasn’t enough time in 2 hours to put a whole other character in, also his “arc” was so similar to Mikes, and that the audience wouldn’t be able to handle ANOTHER brother dying

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

He recently came out and said it was because they felt it was too many tragedies back to back 🤷🏽‍♂️

@tarnishermack94 6 месяцев назад

Chris did wrestle and it was said that because he was so small and frail felt he couldn’t live up to his brother’s success leading to his suicide. Even though his career was short lived he should have been included.

@beemactastic7026 6 месяцев назад

Mike and Chris died similar deaths 4 years apart. Director stated he kind combined them into Mike character. Yes they crunched timeline of events a lot. I enjoyed film and I agree that hindered storytelling. A mini series 45 min. - 1 hr. 3 eps. to 5 eps. or an 8 ep. season would have enhanced the telling of events and Von Erich story.

@falcon048 5 месяцев назад

I saw this the other night and enjoyed it. I grew up in the mid 70s and Kevin Von Erich was who I liked. Then he sort of disappeared and Kerry took center stage and I was rooting for him. Once he died, I lost interest in wrestling. That said, once I found out that there was another brother who was completely removed from the film, I felt cheated. I thought, "man, what did he do that was so bad as to get cut from his family's film?" Then I read up, as you did, and discovered that the suicide was too similar to Kerry's suicide and for pacing it had to be cut. So the Director merged Mike and Chris into one character. Besides, the movie probably would have had to be 30 or 45 minutes longer to flesh that character out. When you read up on Chris...in many ways, his situation was FAR worse than Mike's. He had severe asthma and the medication he took stunted his growth by a LOT! He was only 5'4" and his bones were extremely brittle as a result. He simply couldn't do the wrestling work because he would break his bones doing even the most simple tasks like drop kicks. Trying to live with the Father's pressure to perform and the loss of his older Brothers, he couldn't escape the darkness. The movie was already hitting hard by the end...adding another suicide might have been a tough watch.

@GoneWithTheScript 5 месяцев назад

I loved the movie and I agree with your criticism of excluding Chris , I didn’t know until after either and the excuse just doesn’t make sense to me, he was still apart of their life

@vrhoneybee914 6 месяцев назад

Zac did an amazing in this film. Iron Claw was an amazing movie very well done.

@EPCoachTom 6 месяцев назад

Did they remove just one brother, or two? Is Jack mentioned in the movie at all??

@GreenBayPack 6 месяцев назад

Gotta give it up to Chavo Guerrero. The way he trained and converted these actors into believable legit wrestlers. It did move quickly, and like you said that they didn't even cover Chris. I honestly wouldn't have mind this becoming a 3+hr film because of how much they didn't delve into. Something else they didn't bring up and a lot of people didn't know about Kerry was that nobody outside the family knew he was missing a foot from the accident. That's how talented he was.

@phillipweber6059 6 месяцев назад

Excellent movie. Zac as Kevin should garner him a few nominations. A little surprised that they excluded Chris (I understand why) and the fake cousin Lance that marked the downfall of WCCW in the late 80s. Heartbreaking but also inspiring. Kevin's quote about "it takes more guts to live" will always stay with me.

@92retsekoj 6 месяцев назад

The real story is more heart breaking. The movie doesn't even mention the youngest son.

@andrewyb830 6 месяцев назад

i saw the trailer when it came out, it looked really good i watched wrestling as a kid but i'm not familiar with their story but i was warned that the brothers story is tragic. i'm glad to hear a24 did the story justice but i'm surprised to hear the cut out another brother from the story

@stealthbomber2127 6 месяцев назад

Chris was much younger than his brothers. I understand why they left him out. Showing a very young boy struggling with all that would have been bad. Seeing any of the boys deaths just too much. It was painful enough as it was. But the part where the boys were together in the afterlife gave insight on their great love for one another. May the entire Adkisson family rest in peace.

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

But they managed to include the little brother who passed when they were a little boy. I feel as though, they could have found a way to Include him in my opinion.

@stealthbomber2127 6 месяцев назад

@@MovieFiles The first born little boy did not go through Fritz's treatment. It would have to have been written differently for Chris, but it could have been done. I did not want to see Chris suffering along at the young age, especially with his health issues.

@johndelena_plus1goofballs 6 месяцев назад

Chris missing is glaring. Because it broke Kerry. His spiral happened after Chris passed, and it isn't a coincidence that they ended their journey almost identical. The director has now come out and said it was because it was too sad, which I still don't get. It was a story of 6 brothers.

@dougmcconkey5126 6 месяцев назад

I feel they should have kept Chris in the movie he was just as big as part of their story as the other brothers but I'll still watch it can't wait to see it

@LeviAckerman-cb5ji 6 месяцев назад

10:44 The movie leaving Chris out really bothered me; especially knowing it was his feeling of inadequacy that led to his passing. He should have been a part of this story.

@videovoidtv 6 месяцев назад

I thought it was amazing. I understand it’s strange to add the two young brothers into one character but I think its a good decision. That last line from Kevins kids… destroyed me. This was pure man tears lol

@KGV1374 6 месяцев назад

I would have liked to see Chris in the film, but that's my only complaint. The film overall was incredible and broke my heart.

@danielbrown2612 6 месяцев назад

They were some of my favorites when i was a kid. Especially kevin because he was the high flyer. So sad what happened to them. If i remember correctly chris only popes towards the end of the story.

@Harrison244 5 месяцев назад

I knew the general story going in but man Zac effron crushed this

@suttonstone3482 6 месяцев назад

Recently saw the movie and it was not as good as I wanted it to be. I knew of the Von Erich's tragedies many years ago as I was a fan of Kerry Von Erich. When I saw the preview for the movie, I was so excited and knew that I would be going to see it. Then I heard that Chris Von Erich was not even mentioned in it and I thought that was strange, given that there were six brothers, why would they not mention one of them. After watching the movies, I was disappointed. Like I said, I have known of and read about the Von Erich's and their tragedies since the late 1980's and especially once Kerry passed in 1993. The movie doesn't even address the fact that Kerry was married and had children. Maybe if I didn't know the story (although we will probably never know everything), I would feel differently about the movie, but knowing what I know and that so much was missing, the movie was not good.

@Phished123 6 месяцев назад

I agree it was weird the left out Chris, but i also understand why. Like I had seen Durkin saying, it wasnt just timing, but also, he felt that including Chris would make the story seem too unbelievable. Its already on the edge, its hard to believe how much tragedy this family endured, and I can see how(knowing the story) including Chris could've made audience feel like the story was embellished. I also think the movie was trying to slowplay Fritz a lot, and i think including Chris would've made it hard for the audience to connect with the brothers in a way. Because Fritz was SO HARD on Chris, i think it would've taken away that bit of understanding the audience has that regardless of how abusive emotionally Fritz was to them, that he was still their father and they loved him and wanted him to be proud of them. I wish they got more into Fritz as a person also, for example the "reason" why the curse was thought to be a thing is said in the movie to be "Because he used the Von Erich name". In Actuality Friz portrayed a Nazi gimmick, in the late 40s to mid 50s, when WW2 and the holocaust was fresh in everyone's mind. The story goes that the curse was a sort of cosmic penance(or revenge from the souls of holocaust victims) for Fritz essentially making light of such a serious thing. It would've been super easy to go into the litany of shitty things fritz did, like for example, after the death of david and mike having a fake heart attack in the ring after a beatdown by the freebirds, as an attempt to get them over as vicious badguys. Obviously this backfired and lost the trust of a lot of fans, they didnt want Fritz exploiting his real life tragedy just to get over wrestling. Even they realized it was bigger than that. But if you go into that it kinda undercuts the family story. Makes it harder for the audience to relate to the brothers.

@icetea9270 6 месяцев назад

9/10 not knowing about wrestling definitely helps because each death was shocking because i didn’t know the story they got the cast perfect every actor has had their best performance in this movie would be perfect outside of them glossing over some parts that could’ve taken more time it was 2 hours but that flew by could’ve made it 3 hours went more in depth on some key events and everyone would’ve been fine with it

@jasonaugustine3370 6 месяцев назад

Going to the fact, that Zac Efron is 5’,8” tall plain Kevin , who is 6’2”. Tall is probably why they left out Chris. In real life, Chris was 5‘5“ tall In order to make Zac Efron look like he was 6‘2” tall they would probably need somebody who is 5 feet tall to Chris

@thebrospaul2312 6 месяцев назад

I think leaving Chris out was a mistake he could have been. In there with little extra time and shown the most tragic character in the family,but a great movie

@pearlosibu 5 месяцев назад

I agree. Removing a brother felt weird. Like erasure.

@theprodigalheel3942 6 месяцев назад

I watched it today,,,since I lived it, I didn't break down as much.....Of course the movie completely leaves out Chris Von Erich..It also bypassed the Deaths of WCCW's version of the Rock ( Gino Hernandez was the Rock before the Rock) and Bruiser Brody ( who was their main Antihero, similar to the Undertaker) so it was actually a lot more drama that was really behind WCCW. WCCW was really the company that inspired the attitude era. WCCW was Attitude before the Attitude Era.

@mr1000Cent 6 месяцев назад

From what I gathered from not seeing the film yet, they had Lance Von Erich in the film (although, that is key to telling the story) but not Chris is interesting indeed. At the same time, then the movie, I would assume, would have to talk about the death of the World Class territory, the failed merger with "Memphis Territory" USWA and the American Wrestling Association, and possibly Global Wrestling Federation (along with a few other tried Texas wrestling revivals). That, and the inclusion of Chris in the film would most likely make an already tragic story that much more tragic.

@Fistfulmovies73 6 месяцев назад

I wonder if they even brought up Jack since he died while Kevin was only a couple years old

@martezberry3164 6 месяцев назад

I really liked the film, and im a student of the Von Erich story...just the timeline is all over the place and the guy who played Ric flair could have been improved 👍

@NicTheProphet 6 месяцев назад

Supposedly the director also removed Chris because they didn't want to tell a suicide story for a 3rd time in the movie. Felt it would've been too dark and depressing by that point

@briandillard3809 6 месяцев назад

My daughter, when she was 4, thought Walt Disney was doing the claw (the famous statue with him and Mickey Mouse) when we went to Disneyland.

@nevermindgaming6848 6 месяцев назад

People should actually watch the movie instead of skipping it i saw it twice and it was great a second time

@bubbaholmberg7057 6 месяцев назад

Leaving Chris out was crappy, I get it for timing purposes and his time really was at the end of the Von Erichs time in the spot light, but I feel they could work him in as a kid, showing him hanging around with minimal story, and adding a tag line at the end about his passing as the final nail in that era, followed by another line about Kevins sons carrying on the family legacy, something like that, without disrupting the story that was being told.

@anthonysegura5989 6 месяцев назад

I read that the director left out chris because he thought it was too sad to have another brother die. Especially chris who desperately wanted to wrestle like his dad and brothers but didn't have the body for it

@DeathbySkullfxxx 6 месяцев назад

Imo its depicted as being just that life continues to go on and while many should and would take time to cope.. someone dies and life jhst goes on. Time doesnt even give much time to heal and they press forward... then another death. Time to process and life going on only processed in segments. Flashes.

@maricor4791 6 месяцев назад

They could have included the brother as a kid. Then have a writing in the end how he ended up. Kinda weird he’s not even acknowledged.

@blackkcinamacritic 6 месяцев назад

I will see this movie day one

@MovieFiles 6 месяцев назад

Appreciate you watching my review

@sleeping_angels5603 6 месяцев назад

I thought he did a fantastic job this movie was great this was awesome in such a tragic story as a wrestling fan I'm proud of this movie

@TheJordanHunt3r 6 месяцев назад

Sucks that no one will be portraying baby brother Chris Von Erich. End of the day though its gonna be a good movie

@ironclaw79 6 месяцев назад

I disagree about hating FRitz I had .mixed emotions you could tell he loved his sons but also was old school no emotion kind of guy with lots of pressure for his boys. Holt deserves an oscar

@ernestolupercio3168 6 месяцев назад

The used the baby as reference of time.

@Fistfulmovies73 6 месяцев назад

Since they removed Chris from the story.... Did they even mention Jack?

@troyturner173 6 месяцев назад

I get leaving out Chris-while unfortunate-RIP to all the boys-he's the one that really did the least inside the ring, due to his asthma diagnosis-etc. But, how many times can you tell the same story without turning the movie into a funeral dirge?

@RODRICO1 6 месяцев назад

I think it is a big criticism that they left out Chris from the movie, im disapointed. Chris and Mike were real close brothers, Chris looked up to Mike, He wanted to be a wrestler too, but he was only 5'5 and he new deep down it wasn't going to happen for him. He did wrestle a little bit, but it was only for short appearances. Mike didn't really take it seriously because he loved his music, but he did it more so to please his Dad. When Mike died from an overdose suicide. Chris took his own life too and shot himself. I think Kevin is probably disappointed that Chris was not mentioned in the movie, like he didn't exist. I know I would be.

@davidloman7474 6 месяцев назад

Just saw it today. Decent movie but the real story is way better and more interesting. The timeline in the movie is way off. Zack Efron was really good in the movie. He showed everyone that he's a good dramatic actor. All of the actors hit the gym hard before filming and are all pretty jacked. They learned to wrestle in the ring and it shows in the movie.

@drewdanger9413 6 месяцев назад

There's not much. I don't know about these guys. I'm a huge fan. I wear my Kerry von. Eric t-shirt with pride. There is actually two brothers so I don't know if they're going to talk about the first brother who is actually the oldest over. Kevin Jack Jr. He didn't die from wrestling. He died as a little kid in a freak accident and then there was Chris von. Eric and I felt that they should talk about the whole family and explain kind of what happened cuz it's really important in Chris is very important to the boys so I'm excited to see it. I'm glad they finally did it. Fritz has been hidden from a lot of people. He had this fake image but people that were around him really new people spoke out on it but not to a massive level. So to see him be exposed for pushing his kids and everything like that is really refreshing to see because he caused the downfall of those boys and from Bam Bam Bigelow to Bret Hart to many others. They all express that that you know Fritz really messed up those boys and covered for them and made up stuff and all all kinds of things. It's just a mess so I'm glad to see this movie come out. I'll be the first one there. Super excited!

@hubbthepoet612 6 месяцев назад

I thought this movie was about the Heart brothers

@Cinderella718 6 месяцев назад

I am mentally preparing to see this movie when it is released. I know I am going to cry harder than when I watched Wakanda Forever. 😢

@JangoUnchained98 6 месяцев назад

Removing Chris was stupid. I find it kind of disrespectful, to be honest. And whilst I understand the reason why, at the end of the day, as you mentioned in terms of the montage of matches and achievements of the Von Erichs and their usage of substances, I think they should have turned it into a series rather than a movie. Chris' death was an important factor in Kerry's death - Chris idolised Kerry in particular and Kerry knew this, making Chris' death-along with the accident-tough for Kerry to deal with.

@dwsippel 6 месяцев назад

Chris is not in the film??!! That's just weird!!! Chris is an integral part of this tragic story. Hearing nothing but great things about The Iron Claw, but as a long-time wrestling fan and very familiar with this tragic story, I may have a different take, will absolutely see this as soon as can, but really? Based on a true story and you write out one of the actual Von Erich Brothers?

@dellcargill5698 6 месяцев назад

Agree