To all the Canadians im extremely sorry, Alberta is in Canada, not the United States. I have no idea how i messed that one up but i did, my deepest apologies.
Yes north america is a continent (like europe) canada and USA (united states of america) are countries in North America (along with Mexico), like Spain and Portugal are countries in Europe... and then Alberta is a province in Canada but not trying to say anyone outside of Canada should know that.... I certainly cant name any region in Portugal 😆 But Alberta is very rich in cretaceous dinosaur beds 👍 so many dinos from that period found in Canada are discovered in Alberta
Since the concept art focused on pack behavior, it's safe to say that Alberto's mechanic will be tied to it. Maybe packs of Alberto's wouldn't have the same food requirements as a similar sized mid tier carnivore pack would need. In real life, pack hunting is a winning strategy, but not many large animals form packs. That's because the food requirements would be so high that they would all run out of energy and starve. That could potentially make big Alberto packs one of the most stable and powerful strategies in the game. Combined with the fact that Alberto has a proportionally stronger bite than other mid tiers, it might be too much to also give it a unique attack.
You hit the nail on the head there. A recent dev-blog pretty much summed up the Alberto as a pred that hunts in pairs. That and they lots of young since only a scant few will actually survive to adolescents (Adult hood if they're REALLY lucky).
@@kanseiyamazaru435 Yeah I saw that devblog. I expect alberto and allo packs to be among the most popular choices in the game. They suit a generalist pack playstyle and are pretty popular dinosaurs. Hopefully one of them gets introduced soon, carno could really use some competition.
@@crabhater9373 allo and especially alberto isn’t competition to carno it straight up annillates it. We just need more dinosaurs in general. To take away the deino monopoly over the water, just drinking water is a 50/50 shot at life or death atp in envrima. Troodon cerato and beipi all are great new additions especially beipi and cerato as they can get the Trex wannabe deino players to stop camping the water lmao
You're not wrong about the art not doing the Alberta's gameplay justice. The Isle devs pretty much had to explain it in a recent devblog. "It’s a tough life for Alberto growing up, but if one does make it to adulthood, they can become quite the deadly force. We wanted to play with the idea of a high-risk high-reward animal, with the full grown Alberto having enviable tracking capabilities and power at the cost of stamina. It can’t run for days but when it does set up an ambush and catch you, the fight is over fast. Albertosaurus is a creature you’ll most likely see hunting in pairs and sometimes tailed by their offspring. While they can have many young, very few are expected to survive. If some do manage to not fall prey to similar sized carnivores during their youth, their continued growth and demand for food will get them chased off by their more ravenous parents or even eaten themselves if they insist on hanging around while food runs out."
Albertosaurus is my favourite dino coming to the isle evrima. I think alberto whould be a excellent addition to the game. Its for people who dont want to comit to growing a t rex because rex will probably have the longest growth time of any dino. And dont want to be a apex but still want to be a tyranosaur
I suggest to the concept artist to show unique mechanics for Albertosaurus that will help will in the niche of Evrima. For example: as a Tyrannosaurid with bone crunching jaws, why not show a mechanic where an Albertosaurus opens its jaw and bites down on a victim inflicting a Fracture System effect.
Fun fact if I'm right dondi wanted alberto released this year... ye that won't happen. Alberto is one of my favourite dinos in legacy and this concept art is useless for information, especially the human parts. I hope alberto will be still vaiable in evrima tho and maybe that stego image where it grabbed it's neck could show that alberto will be able to grab things and do damage like that? (I mean by tearing them apart? since it has a strong mouth)
This may be a stretch but the Troodon picture could indicate that Alberto may be especially susceptible to venom since it seems to be running away and it wouldn't make sense for a pack of Troodons to attack an animal of that size regularly. Perhaps it more resistant to physical damage to compensate for a weakness to poison.
I doubt it. It probably indicates that low-tier dinos will be absolutely smashed if they get in the way of an Alberto. Plus, I feel like Troodons regularly hunting something of Alberto's size would be kinda absurd.
@@tsbro2995 thanks someone agrees with me :D although I don’t like how they portrayed Alberto in this art. All it does is kills stuff. One Pet peeve I have is people only drawing dinosaurs killing things. What about when they are sleeping and stuff? Lol that’s my opinion
with the adult albertos not givin the young any food could also be a hint at albert draining food insanly fast, so the adults dont have any spare to feed their kids with. and maybe juvi albert will be stronger compared to other juvies, meaning the adults believe they can handle themselvs way better.
This concept art only serves to prove the point that Alberto doesn't need to be in the game. It doesn't do anything that other carnivores like Carno, Cerato, Allo or Rex couldn't do. Is it a scavenger that can eat severely rotten carcasses? Cerato already does that. Does it have a grappling bite that grabs people by a certain body part and thrashes them around? Rex is supposed to do that. Is it a good ambush hunter capable of reaching high speeds for short periods of time? That's Allo's thing. Is it just super fast for some reason? That's Carno's niche. I think there's nothing they can do to Alberto to make it worth adding to the game, they've kind of run out of mechanics they could give certain dinosaurs to differentiate them from others and it really shows in the concept art. Depending on how strong they make it, having Alberto in the game would either render something like Cerato or Allo obsolete, or Alberto itself will have a tough time being viable with so many other carnivores competing with it.
@@karenboy1005 No but it makes it stronger, not out of this world stronger like a Rex would be, but stronger. Which goes back to my comment on what role it should play in the game. It's also worth reminding The Isle is not a simulator, they don't have to balance stuff to mirror real life, but to be a fun balanced game.
it's a bit of a stretch, but like I said to my friend, it's possible Alberto will have a quick kick unique to it. something to help deal with tiny, small, and maybe some mid tiers. Also a kick isn't so out there considering supposed evidence of tyrannosaurus being able to do it (which I'm skeptical about)
I wonder if Albertosaurus mechanic is that it's intended to be played with a partner. Looking at the concept art, the common theme that seems to run throughout it is the fact that Alberto is always a duo. The image of the Alberto pair tearing a human in half is particularly striking. Perhaps that's apart of its gimmick: one bites down on their prey and the other tears it apart. A lone Alberto would probably be outclassed by other carnivores, but as a duo they become a gruesome rip-and-tear type team. I know packs and herds aren't anything new, but needing another person to complete an attack/action against an opponent would be an interesting mechanic, calling on players to be highly coordinated and have good communication. Hope that makes sense. Oh well, we'll see when more information comes out about it!
Honestly, that's an amazing Idea. When alone, they aren't that big of a threat to some others, but when in pairs, they become a force to be reckoned with seems to fit like you said.
that's what I thought as well, that they were trying to show it has some kind of grabbing/grappling ability. like it could bite down onto live prey and hold on. that'd be super cool. would still be useful solo, as it would allow you to grab smaller prey and shake it around in your mouth, or to control a larger opponent
I'm glad you said what I was thinking. Albertosaurus looks boring, just fulfilling the same niche as Carnotaurus, but slower and with less bleed damage.
Tbh I don’t really care if Alberto doesn’t get any especially unique mechanic. It’s a bulky bruiser as fast as it is mean, and it looks like a demon. Perfect if you ask me.
i believe its meant to be a generalized brawler, heavier and more deadly than both carno and ceratosaurus in terms of gameplay style but thats just my speculation
I think that your criticisms are a bit extreme. seeing the Alberto Latch onto the stegos neck could point it in a direction for that being its mechanic and possibly a shared mechanic among itself and the Rex. The Alberto might fill the Niche of the Sub rex playstyle since seamless growth will no longer make that a viable playstyle anymore. personally i think picturing the Alberto as the subrex replacement for seamless growth is more than likely what its going to do, and it being a larger mid tier capable of fighting larger herbivorous and fending off smaller tiers i think its going to be very fun.
As an Acro and Alberto connoisseur I can agree this concept doesnt show much at all on what we need/want to know about alberto. Just shows I guess "how" the devs want us to play it as an Allo sided rex.
Personally I don't think all dino's need unique mechanics. Some have certain qualities that kinda require something special be done, but others might just be bigger, stronger, or faster and not really have anything other than a basic attack that works due to their speed or high stamina and good tracking, etc...
The Isle has an issue with niche capacity. You have a bunch of Apexes, even more Medium tier, a lot of small tier and a few sub tiers like the Velociraptor and Troodon that have the same play style essentially. These all have very slightly different play styles but you could refine each niche down to one animal and just make the Dinos into skins for a play style that can be tweaked via a skill tree. Honestly the only one that barely has this problem are the fishers. Also when they want gameplay diversity they throw that away in favor for more unoriginal and frankly boring designs like the Omniraptor which translates to All Raptor. Which they could give a badass look to, feathered or not.
Not all dinosaurs need unique mechanics. I would pick Albertosaurus simply because its an Albertosaurus, because its a cool dinosaur. Same with Barynyx which is just a worse Suchomimus in every way except speed. Albertosaurus would feel the same niche as a T rex but faster.
I think The Isle should go for the BOB model, as in one species (At most two) per type with the most powerful & or flashy taking priority. For example... Herbivores - Sauropod = Brachiosaurus Ceratopid = Triceratops or Styracosaurus Anklyosaur = Ankylosaurus Hadrosaur = Shantungosaurus & or Parasaurolophus Pachycephalosaur = Pachycephalosaurus Small Herbivorous theropod = Gallimimus Large Herbivorous Theropod = Therizinosaurus or Deinocheirus Small Ornithopod = Dryosaurus Smaller Ceratopsian = Psittacosaurus Stegosaur = Kentrosaurus Iguanodont = Tenontosaurus Carnivores - Tyrannosaur = Tyrannosaurus Dromaeosaur = Utahraptor Ceratosaurian = Carnotaurus Carnosaur = Giganotosaurus or Acrocanthosaurus Oviraptorsaur = Oviraptor Troodont = (Troodon) Stenonychosaurus Crocodilian = Deinosuchus Pterosaur = Quetzalcoatlus & or Pteranodon Other Theropod = Herrerasaurus
Most concepts arts show something, I would care if concepts art made development of the isle slower, but because that isn't the case I don't mind the concept arts, even if some of them suck
Could the piece with it sneaking around the garage/storage entrance mean it's potentially going to be a mid-tier or "apex-lite" that can be a threat to humans within facilities? It has the build of a juvie-rex as an adult, so it would make sense it could be given the same specs, but with more health since it is matured, right?
I uterrly disappointing how one of my favorite dinosaurs as disrespected in it'd own concept ngl,but yeah this video really showed some potential Alberto could have if the Devs actually make smart decisions.
The thing is, its another instance of doing too many theropods that dont work in an ecosystem together. The alberto is a fast predator that does a lot of damage in an instant. It differs from Carno because that is a very fast predator that is able to grip onto smaller struggling prey. The allo is slower, and favours large to medium sized prey. Ceratosaurus is slower but was likely a better generalist and favoured smaller prey and aquatic prey more so than allosaurus, niche partitioning and all that. Then you have the apexes hunting everything medium sized and bigger, and the utahs hunting most medium sized to small creatures. In terms of its real life niche, alberto cant do it, because it was the apex predator in its environment, so it doesnt fit in the ecosystem of the Isle because of the apexes. Carno was as well, but works because it was still a specialist in small prey like other Abelisaurids. The herbivores that are similar to prey in alberto's environment are prey for subadult and even adult rexes. Alberto hunted average sized hadrosaurs and ceratopsids, unlike the bigger ones rex hunted, so was powerful but fast. I can see it doing well as basically an apex in packs, being able to mob larger theropods, able to dodge them whilst doing decent damage. But I imagine that balancing like if you tried to put killer whales in an ecosystem with macropredator sperm whales. The pods would outcompete both smaller and larger species. It'd be OP. The only other way I can see alberto working is if they made it a specialist in armoured prey, which would somewhat contradict its real life ecology, but I think its the only way for it to not be shit, not be OP and still be relatively true to the real animal. Make it too slow to hunt small prey (cerato/carno niche), too fragile to hunt bigger prey (allo and apex niche) but make it able to dodge and break bones, so an armoured prey specialist, hunting ankys, minmis, stegos and... magyarosaurus... Why is a dwarf sauropod in this game? Theres a rex, a giga, an acro and a fuck tonne of small theropods, why is it here? I digress. Alberto doesnt make sense, because it doesnt have a niche to fill, and would need working around to actually be viable. I think the armoured specialist is the only way it I can think of it working.
idk if youve covered it before but id say the thing to take from this concept is a trample mechanic. at least thats what seems to be going on with the troodons
some ideas of my own if anyone comes by and cares enough Starts very, very low in terms of power level and swiftly increases as it approaches adulthood. Has bigger cheeks than other carnis Feathered. Longer lips (meaning it can still cover some teeth while mouth is open unless biting or growling) Has expressions! Activated with 5 and 6, 5 being bare teeth and 6 being funny monkey bottom lip droop. Has the magic ability to jog (consumes very little stam, cant jog blew 50% stam) with c Same back-up ability Above average cost in stam. Good speed but cant keep it for long. Low sweeping alt lmb with the high point finish. Tail also deals damage behind it a little in past 30 degree attacks. Being hit with an attack that can knock over and would normally stun alberto will instead knock over if attack lands at the end of alt attack. Tail damage during alt attack cannot deal more than 10% total hp and will not do damage to targets at 20% hp and below. Capable of carrying bodies bigger than one would think, still dragging a carno but being faster at it than other carnivores and not spending stam on it with something called pulling (at things it’s size or bigger it starts to spend stam). Can throw bodies that it can pull or carry. Can grab on the go. Meat chunks grabbed by alberts are bigger and thus have more food on them, meaning babies stealing chunks from bodies can actually finish up corpses. Diet includes all hadros, stegos, kentros, cerats, carnos, other alberts, and ankylosaurids Pack of two adults (includes sub), juvi’s are not limited, anymore induces the SUPER EVIL SNAPPING AND GROWLING OVER PACKING SYSTEM (players bite when too close to another pack of or lone albert and also involuntarily 3 call). Horrible nv Has default scent range but smells super quick and can smell creatures that are triple the radius of its nv, where there will be a small visual effect on the creature like that have veno sniffin. Brighter tracks. Corpses that are pulled by albertos dont count as grabbed and thus a cerat still gets body down buff. Doesnt have a roar for its 3 call, more of a growl More of a quiet broadcast, isnt very loud but can be heard a surprising distance away. Getting hit with a possibly knock over attack that wouldn’t apply normally at the end of alt attack will in fact knock over
Releasing a behavioral analysis instead of concept art that shows gameplay mechanics is...a weird choice for a multiplayer game. Alberto being "a bad parent" isn't an actual mechanic and is entirely the player's choice, but maybe baby albertos' hunger drain is just SO fast that it incentivizes parents to leave the babies to fend for themselves because if they don't then there won't be enough food to go around? Maybe alberto is just going to be constantly hungry and will need a ton of food so it'll eat ANYTHING (including its own offspring, based on the notes in Devblog #29, so now we have two confirmed cannibals) They did this with the nesting grounds and the apparently-soon-to-be-implemented migration mechanic too, where it feels like they're forgetting that this is *a multiplayer game* and not a nature documentary
Alberto looks like it has short spine syndrome, its so unnecessarily bulky despite being known for being a much more gracile counterpart to T.rex. they just made it look so off. I don't even see the point in it being added, since adolescent-young adult T.rexes are pretty much gonna do the same it will do, while also most likely being much more common in servers whrre they're playable.
Wild idea: if Alberto is supposed to be a social animal and a play style that supports it, what if they had the ability to share food? Trophallaxis is essentially a way that certain creaturess can regurgitate food and share it between members of their species. This is how parents feed baby animals in-game. But certain creatures like ants have secondary “social stomachs” where they can store food separate from their main ones for trophallaxis. What if Alberto had a secondary stomach like this where it could store a small amount of additional food that it could share with members of its species? Combined with another social oriented mechanic it could encourage more pack behavior, and also possibly create other gameplay loops, like getting food for injured group members, which other predators could follow for an easier meal.
Idk if this games pitch is even possible. You want a roster worth atleast 4 different ecosystems worth otop of humans that can easily kill dinosaurs like idk how this is gonna flow well at all
i feel like the 2 images where alberto is shown close to humans might show humans might be on his diet or maybe he might enjoy or get nesting boosts near human buildings. also, the fact that they are bad parents may show they will be almost fully independent since they're born
The concept art is very indicative of the fact that alberto is a redundant playable. It is essentially just a sub adult rex that doesn't grow into an adult rex which would be fine, if growth didn't exist. Alberto suffers from the fact that the players who choose to grow rex will always take up it's niche at some point. Because Trex is more popular it's going to be played more which means more sub rexes it has to compete with and that have mechanics that make them better than alberto. Since the devs are dead set on having growth (Instead of making becoming a strain the main goal which is way more interesting of a feature and would allow for a smaller roster with more variety) be the focus it leaves creatures like alberto dead weight from a gameplay point of view.
If this was previous isle where the only difference dinosaurs have between each other is stats, I'd 100% agree. However, I really am not certain it will be that cut and dry. Immediately off concept art i can agree its a bit concerning. That being said it's not set in absolute stone, and I'd wanna see if they do anything specific with Alberta before that occurs. I mean, it's concept art, and the idea is a simple brute design. That also means there is plenty of room to add to it by the time it comes out
The Isle's roster is plagued by this exact issue. So many creatures feel redundant to have with the existance of similar creatures. Acro and giga are both large predators that utilize bleec to kill prey (allo is close to this niche too, though I think it's different enough). Alberto and rex are brutes that kill their prey with sheer force, as well as having similar growth stages. There's 3 large ceratopsians with styraco, trike and pachyrhino. If the devs narrowed the roster down to more distinct creatures they would avoid having to validate the existence of such samey playables, and they wouldn't have to put resources into making such a large roster.
@@Cerato75 You're right technically but North America isn't a country it's a continent. It's like saying Paris Europe technically right but geographically ignorant.
@@coryfice1881 paris is a city though, alberta is a province. Saying Île-de-France, Europe would be what you mean I think (Île-de-France is the region where Paris is... I had to google it I didnt know off the top of my head)
If I would make albertosaurus viable is giving it bleed resistance when fully grown,or a bite and leg stomp to pinned down herbivores or small carnivores ,or a great swimmer since it's a sub rex clone.
I think that with all of the rotten looking carcasses its highly likely Alberto will be able to scavenge like Cerato. And the scene of it plowing through a group of Troodon could be pointing to a charge attack or trample damage.
Then, if you’re correct, Alberto will steamroll cerato, as it would be far better at intimidating and be much more efficient at doing ceratos job, basically invalidating them.
@@dino_mite1119 That is possible. But Alberto is going to krump Cerato in a fight regardless and only having one species that can eat rotting flesh besides the AI scavengers feels like a bit of a waste. Plus Cerato will undoubtedly be faster as well as being a good swimmer (if the concept art is to be believed) so Cerato should have no problems escaping Alberto. Especially given these two will likely be encouraged towards different habitats via their diets and playstyles since the devs are already trying to do that kind of stuff.
@@dino_mite1119 Well that's unfortunately unavoidable in a game like this with a roster as large as they're planning to have with as many animals that would have overlapping niches in real life. Heck the only real way to separate them is via the encouraging them into different habitats or different prey. Like the apexes, Spino is an aquatic specialist, Giga is a bleeder of large prey, and Rex is an armor crusher. But any one of them can and will kill prey the others are specialized for given the chance. So even they have some overlap. Plus it seems unlikely that Alberto will be immune to whatever nonsense they're giving Magyarosaurus to make it inedible to most predators that aren't Cerato. So they will still have their differences despite some overlap.
@@mechanicobra I can’t stop thinking about how stupid the planned mechanics are for magy‘PoiSonOuS FleSH MaKeS iT viAbLE’ ‘FasTEr thAn aLLoSAurUs’ what bullshit
I took that the Alberto not being a good parent as they can only group in 2 incase they have hatchlings. Once the hatchings are grown (juvi, sub) they are auto kicked from the group. Other Dinosaurs that are in evrima currently keep their sub-adults. I think if that is the way they are going then it’s showcasing how the apex group system will work. Like for example Rexes grouping for a certain time cycle (mating, raising young, etc.) and then going solo once that time is up. It makes sense because we have seen what happens on the isle when there is 2 adult rexes, 4-5 subs, and 15 juvies.
I really disagree with your perspective and this is why. We actually get a lot of information on its play style in this concept art. As some others have suggested that this is a mid tier or apex lite type dinosaur and the fact that parental care is limited is a noticeable inclusion in this concept art. It is possible that albertosaurus being smaller than Rex has a faster growth than it’s larger cousin without the added power Rex has. It plays as a faster but less powerful Rex but in order to keep them from being overpowered when in a group they have to disband quickly as they become competition amongst others of its kind. A player cap in groups would make sense and once juveniles reach a self sustaining age or about the size of an adult Utah they are on there own or could roam around in small juvenile packs competing with utahs for similar prey. Alberto’s seem like they will be just as terrifying to encounter as a human if not more so as they are small enough to enter some human structures and if not careful and properly fortified they can be sniffed and dispatched by a lone Alberto or pair if so unlucky. Alberto seems to play similarly to carno but with certain advantages and disadvantages. Able to take down larger prey but not nearly as fast and rely more on ambush than being able to run prey down.
As well when it comes to player choice you can choose to grind out playing as an apex T. rex and probably die trying at a young age from the super long growth time. Or trade off on size and bite strength for improved speed and shorter growth time. It’s a powerful animal on its own and devastating when in a pair or small group.
@@maxallen5510 "It plays as a faster but less powerful Rex." My guy, you literally just described a sub-adult rex. Albertosaurus, in terms of niche and playstyle, is literally just a sub-adult rex. There is no point in adding it.
@@kade-qt1zu a sub adult rex should not be as strong as an adult albertosaurus. Might be slightly faster but the Alberto could have more stamina so that to balance it out. A sub adult rex shouldn’t try to take on an adult Alberto and risk losing the Rex. A skilled sub adult rex could possibly take on a lone adult Alberto but since Alberto grows faster I’d assume it wouldn’t be alone. They both play similar but it’s a trade off like I said. Do you want to spend the extra time growing into an adult rex and possibly not even make it? Or spend less time growing and get to adult Alberto but not be as strong as an adult rex? It’s the change in play style. In order to keep the server from being overpopulated with Apexes the mid tier carnivores and herbivores keep the juvenile and sub adult apex carnivores in check. Do you understand?
Alberto not having any ability isn’t going to make it obsolete. it is bigger then allo and could out perform most if not all mid sized Dinos because of it, sucho is also in the same boat
