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How can a deck that doesn't do anything overtly wrong yield so much indifference? Let's talk about it.
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@Zetact_
@Zetact_ 27 дней назад
Whether or not it's unfair isn't really the issue, I think the main issue is that it's the tier 0 deck across both formats available to the TCG at the moment and is still the best deck in the OCG, and most of the other decks aren't being given enough to really keep up with it. There are people who are trying to retroactively say Tear was a good format so in a year or two when Snake-Eye gets powercrept it will be able to be looked at with those goggles.
@JackBlack-qn7us
@JackBlack-qn7us 27 дней назад
Whoever says tear or kash were good formats, was the one permaplaying it and nothing else. Couldn't even catch them with a credit card in their hands.
@gahbunga
@gahbunga 26 дней назад
Ban Flamberge. They still function as a 1 card combo link spam deck that can do some interesting things, but that card is sorta a highlight as the thing that makes the whole thing busted. Also, people complain about floodgates because they're annoying, while they complain about things like SE cause they sap all the variety out of the game. Imagine you're playing a game and virtually every enemy is the same thing.
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 27 дней назад
I mean overcentralising and I’ve played against this too much are complaints towards the deck
@DragonBallsolosyourverse
@DragonBallsolosyourverse 27 дней назад
Every few months there's always some tier zero strat Ether Kashtira Adamancipator Tearlament Or whatever Yugioh set design also encourages tier zero strats cause each deck is better then the last hence the incentive to buy new cards..
@elainasjournal5734
@elainasjournal5734 27 дней назад
The “problem” with SE is just the fact that it’s a 1-card combo deck, and while the SE end board can still be fair, trying to play into it with boardbreakers inherently put you at a card disadvantage, so naturally the handtrap approach is “better”, and then it turns into a game of playing 18+ handtraps. I think this is what people complain about. Imo, the format being handtraps-heavy is “fine”. I don’t like it, but it’s not inherently bad either. And after having somewhat good results against it in MD with a relatively low handtraps list, mostly engines Tearlaments, I think handtraps isn’t the only approach. It’s just that, compared to playing handtraps and just stop whatever they try to do from the get-go, playing into their board is inherently more difficult and disadvantageous, so people don’t want to do that and results in the format where they complain about what they chose to do (playing more handtraps, then complain about the format being handtraps-heavy).
@zyroberk
@zyroberk 25 дней назад
being a 1-combo deck can be (and often is) fine, the issue is clearly the heavy handtrap format since SE boards recover like nothing happened.
@elainasjournal5734
@elainasjournal5734 25 дней назад
@@zyroberk 1-card combo can be fine, a pure SE combo isn’t that broken also, but the fact remains is “1-card combo promotes playing heavy-handtraps” and that’s when it make the format worse.
@gospelunderanimations1193
@gospelunderanimations1193 26 дней назад
Wrong I like evenly matched duels where one wrong move will be fatal
@Hellsbells305
@Hellsbells305 27 дней назад
Lightsworn on top fr fr
@Bladerunner-sn7tv
@Bladerunner-sn7tv 27 дней назад
its just a boring deck, end of story. it doesn't do anything remotely interesting, It has 0 cool gimmicks, atleast tenpai has something going for it, atleast tearlament innovated, snake eyes is an amalgamation of yugioh's worst design aspects come together to form one of the most boring combo deck the game has ever, and will ever see.
@Netherwolf6100
@Netherwolf6100 25 дней назад
I'm gonna say it, Konami needs to stop making Negate Effects, One-Card Combo Starters, Generic Boss Monsters and Cards that Banish Your *OPPONENT'S* cards not even in play. Runick, Kashtira, Snake-Eyes, Tear were all blights on the game itself. Those decks and designs are horribly crafted and they need to be put to an end.
@zyroberk
@zyroberk 25 дней назад
Ban Original SInful Spoils - Snake Eye. I know it makes Diabellstar kinda bad, but it's too powerful even at 1 copy and Konami made sure that the other targets were shit. It also takes away the synergy with Fire King and other fire decks, but at this point, I don't really care. Also fuck handtrap wars.
@Linkophere
@Linkophere 25 дней назад
Never use that crying sound effect again dude holy shit
@Jrpg_guy
@Jrpg_guy 27 дней назад
Mann makes a complain video about a topic he can't complain about and complains about the fact that he can't complain. Peek comedy.
@jtalkalot19
@jtalkalot19 27 дней назад
Snake eyes is just the current flavor of the month to the ALAWAYS unhappy yugioh community. When it eventually gets taken care of, people seem to act like these decks NEVER get hit, the new complaint will be Yubel, Fiendsmith, Gimmick Puppet, Tenpai or whatever new deck is going to take its place and the cycle will begin anew. Also, isn't snake eyes just pre-MACR zoo, a very powerful deck that was beatable?
@Zetact_
@Zetact_ 27 дней назад
Based on the OCG results it's still Snake-Eye for the forseeable future.
@JackBlack-qn7us
@JackBlack-qn7us 27 дней назад
Must've been opposite day when this vid was made, cuz ain't no way anything with braincells made these arguments. Nothing that you mentioned fall into the line of fair or balanced or fun decks. If they're the one playing them, sure, but if not, might as well scoop. Who even loves to have all of their plays negated? Who even loves to play solitaire and then do nothing because their opponent left 15 min ago? We don't love to complain. As you said we love tp have control of the game, and yet in current state, whoever goes first or draws 5 handtraps going second is the one in control. For a year every deck was the same, running the same engine with only 5 original cards in main deck. Thats not variaty, thats iphone, same shit, different look. Floodgates and maxx-c are only annoying to ppl that play solitaire for 30min. If anything, with all these fucking monster effects that do fuckin everything not once per turn, floodgates are actually a breath of fresh air that forces you to think differently and out it, unlike every meta deck for past 2 years that has same bs combo of playing their entire deck and gy like they drew it all on their first hand, and preventing your opponent from playing. At this point just clasify it as a single player game and make it vs bots cuz its the same deal of you jk lol winning.
@1-_-_Alright_-_-1
@1-_-_Alright_-_-1 27 дней назад
Yugioh players when their rogue decks can’t play through one negate: 🤬🤬🤬
@siopaoguy
@siopaoguy 27 дней назад
Most good rogue decks can play past a negate interruption. Some can play through 2. But it's crazy that SE can consistently play through 3 or 4 interruptions, then on the follow up garner or maintain card advantage.
@imkingnoobuwu4326
@imkingnoobuwu4326 27 дней назад
@@siopaoguy omg i had several games where a snake eye deck WENT THROUGH A WHOLE HAND OF HANDTRAPs, and i was handtraping at the key moments and it still went through. i was salty lol
@Citizen_Nappa23
@Citizen_Nappa23 27 дней назад
​@@imkingnoobuwu4326don't waste time and value resources trying to negate them save your Imperm for your turn and evenly match them to hell and back lol
@PogOfGreen
@PogOfGreen 25 дней назад
Uh, now it's not yugiboomer playground skill issue to complain about the absolute atrocious state of the game or is it still cringe to have an IQ over 69? Yugioh players wanted and praised this. Now adapt your wallets.
@playmaker7871
@playmaker7871 25 дней назад
The hell does “adapt your wallets” mean? Are you asking people to drop hundreds if they want to play at a more competitive level?
@PogOfGreen
@PogOfGreen 25 дней назад
@@playmaker7871 Isn't that the game you wanted and asked for? Are you saying you should be able to compete against me when you're poor? Why do you hate rich people so much?
@playmaker7871
@playmaker7871 25 дней назад
@@PogOfGreen no I just got here, and second, the game shouldn’t be decided entirely because one person has more money
@PogOfGreen
@PogOfGreen 25 дней назад
@@playmaker7871 Sounds like a financial issue, Timmy.
@playmaker7871
@playmaker7871 25 дней назад
@@PogOfGreen just saying “skill issue” to people who are unwilling to drop bank on a fucking CARD GAME is a really stupid arguement