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The Italians TRULY Suffer - Top Tier Italy - War Thunder 

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Italy at top tier is suffering. From not having an "Actual" top tier MBT, to one of the most inefficient SPAAs for its BR. Though it may have a silver lining, watch to find out more!
00:00 - Does Italy Suffer?
03:34 - Urban ga-OMG DONT SHOOT
08:25 - Getting "Balanced"
11:15 - IFV FTW
16:11 - Tornado CAS'ening
22:30 - OTOMATIC Struggles
26:29 - Why Italy Suffers
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@Gabriele_Spagnuolo02
@Gabriele_Spagnuolo02 Год назад
As an Italian main, I get really mad when someone else says “we suffer”, “we should get this”, “we should get that” while having competitive vehicles in their tech trees It’s been years since I’m waiting for a sub tech tree to come in the Italian tech tree, meanwhile Israel and Finland made It into the game, when will be our turn?
@Sh-epard
@Sh-epard Год назад
I hope in the next patch. I grinded the whole tree both for nationalism and interest in our vehicles (man i really love B1 series 🖤), but something to fill the massive gaps in some BR is needed... Someone said Hungary will be coming as sub-tree (don't remember if was a dev in the russian streaming or on the forum), but it's not credible by others because "since when Italy used Soviet tech?"...meanwhile UK and Sweden have receive a sub-tree with unique Soviet and South African tech. I don't care which nation will arrive as sub-tree, Spain, Hungary or even Brazil, i will complete again the tree and use whatever they can add. I can't wait to use again my 9.0 and 10.0 line-up🖤 (currently trying to get my second Ace crew for my Merkava mk2d)
@wt_ananas
@wt_ananas Год назад
Which sub tech tree could be added?
@SprayandPrayman22
@SprayandPrayman22 Год назад
The Italians have become the Japan Line prior to the Type 10 addition.
@mr.bamboozle3053
@mr.bamboozle3053 Год назад
@@wt_ananas mexico, they use a lot of Italian vehicles and it could make sense
@ravenouself4181
@ravenouself4181 Год назад
@@wt_ananas Hungary, Romania and some more unique vehicles from the former colonies
@Sh-epard
@Sh-epard Год назад
I still hope the Ariete AMV, the B2 Centauro and more vehicles (like the PzH 2000 or the Palmaria SPG, the Leonardo M60A3, the B1 Centauro Serie 3, the C-13 TUA [with the same turret used for on the M901] and such) will be add to the game. There are still enough vehicles as possible adds to increase interest in our country, and some are also for the top tier. Adding the Tornado was the basement for such thing, as the Panzerhaubitze 2000 can be added to both Italy and Germany, or the B1 Serie 3 since the VRCC-105 is based on that.
@justamicrowave2572
@justamicrowave2572 Год назад
Sadly there really isn’t a place in war thunder for playable artillery
@jacoproita9010
@jacoproita9010 Год назад
The VRCC-105 is a serie 1 or 2 but upgraded
@Sh-epard
@Sh-epard Год назад
@@jacoproita9010 nope, it's a serie 3. The rear hull is much longer, a trait only used on the serie 3 batch. Another feature should be the ability to steer all the wheels instead only the 2 rear pairs, but the hull is the easier way to identify it. Serie 1 is the ROMOR used in-game, the Serie 2 basically the same as Serie 1 upgraded but without the ERA mount rails and the same hull length as the previous model.
@Sh-epard
@Sh-epard Год назад
@@justamicrowave2572 still other countries did have receive their SPGs, 2S3M, G6 Rhino, Type 75, Bkan 1C, some Premium as the Brummbar or the Lorraine 155 so...SPGs can be add to the game. They are not so easily to use, neither wanted by many as possible new tanks, but If it will not be the case, there are other options just like what i wrote down😁
@bornonthebattlefront4883
@bornonthebattlefront4883 Год назад
@@justamicrowave2572 there is already a handful of artillery vehicles in the game It would be fine to add as direct fire
@Aniquilador_Z
@Aniquilador_Z Год назад
They have to add the Spanish sub-branch to complement Italy with the Leopard 2E and Pizarro
@ser43_OLDC
@ser43_OLDC Год назад
Also to complement with the F4 mirages and f18
@nicolamariano745
@nicolamariano745 Год назад
I mean, we would have enough vehicles by ourselves.. it is just gaijin that doesn't wanna add them
@OumuamuaOumuamua
@OumuamuaOumuamua Год назад
Good idea
@ABluesBrother
@ABluesBrother Год назад
We already have a lort by out own, just look at the suggestion threads on thr forums Italy doesn't really need spain, romania, hungary or anything else to complete out trees, just some interest by the devs
@erichartmann8319
@erichartmann8319 Год назад
Yes! Give every tree a Leo that's what we want!
@jacoproita9010
@jacoproita9010 Год назад
They could add the Ariete AMV and the Centauro 2, that'd just be amazing, they would be pretty good
@theplum2706
@theplum2706 Год назад
AMV will bring nothing new to the lineup except some better mobility
@jacoproita9010
@jacoproita9010 Год назад
@@theplum2706 it also has better protection and will combine the PSO and the WAR kits
@Kminek246
@Kminek246 Год назад
​@@jacoproita9010 It is still shame that documents about WAR kit are classified and we don't know it true kinetic protection but it is for sure much more then what Gaijin is making it right now in game. I feel like Japan is the forgotten nation by Gaijin, the Italy is just a punching bag for Gaijin. Many nerfs to its top tiers and instead adding more height tiers vehicles we got 3 updated in a row rank 1-2 cars.
@jacoproita9010
@jacoproita9010 Год назад
@@Kminek246 I heard that the WAR kit had a worse armour multiplier than the rubber side skirt of the Russian tanks in WT kek
@Kminek246
@Kminek246 Год назад
@Jacoproita ohh I know. In code is has same kinetic protection as 1st gen ERA that T-64s has. Like I said. Italy is just punching bag for Gaijin
@bigoof1105
@bigoof1105 Год назад
Italy can get nation sub trees like Spain and Hungary which will let them access the Leopard 2. Also they could receive Centauro 2, Ariete Hitfact mk2 and maybe even Ariete AMV. A129D with spike missiles is also a likely possibility. Japan however I really don't know how they will keep up with other nations, domestically they basically have run out of tanks. I also don't know any subtree that could fit into Japan with reasonable justification: South Korea? That would cause controversy. Thailand? They mostly use Chinese tanks nowadays. Other south east asian nations have no real ties with Japan other than being invaded in the past.
@groucho1080p
@groucho1080p Год назад
gajin still hasn't fixed the Ariete armour, even on the website of the manufacturer it is stated that it's composite armour but they ignored all the reports it seems
@Kminek246
@Kminek246 Год назад
Yeah Italy is just Gajin punching back. You need like dozen sources for them to fix something. Hell, the WAR kit is still classified but for sure it has more kinetic protection then it has in game right now which is what. Just adding 40mm of kinetic protection? That is just a stupid joke from Gaijin side.
@imaflyingturkey
@imaflyingturkey Год назад
honestly italy is fun but not very comptetitive They should honestly give the old CL3143 back because the extra pen would actually help or a sub tree
@Sh-epard
@Sh-epard Год назад
Or the DM53, since a new order by the Esercito was made in these days about a new shipments of 120mm rounds (mostly HE) for both the C1 Ariete and the B2 Centauro, selled by Israel (M339), Germany (DM11) and France (not remember the name). So if such modern shells are useable even on the Ariete, and the DM53 is used on the old L44 main gun (saw even on Turkish Leopard 2A4), why not add it to us? Sadly there isn't a need for more KE rounds in the request (to use as infos about the in-game shell change) but i'm sure we are using it for both vehicles (or at least on the B2, the M322/CL3143 order was made in the early 2000...).
@tizanikandothers
@tizanikandothers Год назад
Hungary as a sub tree should work
@way9895
@way9895 Год назад
​@@tizanikandothers it'd give Italy T-72s for top tier. I'd like to see a Spanish sub tree combined with a Hungarian sub tree to fill some gaps
@TheDgamesD
@TheDgamesD Год назад
Italy is still missing the Centaruo II, the Centauro 155 SPG, the B1 Draco, and B1 Centauro Prototype.
@nikolasfoulger1127
@nikolasfoulger1127 Год назад
I think the best thing for the Italian top teir at this point would be to move the in game arietes down to 10.3. And have the two known Ariete AMV prototypes take their place at 10.7. As for the 11.0 spot, they could add the Centauro II, and the final AMV iteration when it's unveiled (which should be a combination of both previous prototypes features and then some). There are plenty of other vehicles which would be mentioned to fill the gaps within 6.3-10.0, but im sure people hear will cover those Overall glad to hear you talk about the Italians as they have my favorite ground tech tree.
@750li_Behemoth
@750li_Behemoth Год назад
I know this was a month ago but doesn't the Italians have a 12.0?
@Leonardo-wn2fp
@Leonardo-wn2fp Год назад
I bet you some money we get the Centauro 2 and the Centauro 2 Brazil as a premium - I can just smell it
@milkisbehindyou2041
@milkisbehindyou2041 Год назад
Hopefully the aretie gets its composite hull and they get a Spanish leo 2e and 2a4
@groucho1080p
@groucho1080p Год назад
and hopefully some greek vehicles too
@bornonthebattlefront4883
@bornonthebattlefront4883 Год назад
I’d be cool with the 2E if it was a premium But not in the Tech tree Not when there is so many Italian designs that can be added instead
@milkisbehindyou2041
@milkisbehindyou2041 Год назад
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 i mean there really isn't that much, only the centauro 2 120/105, ariete amv, freccia, and maybe the centauro draco
@ser43_OLDC
@ser43_OLDC Год назад
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 premium literally a tank that is almost a leopard 2a7
@Sh-epard
@Sh-epard Год назад
@@milkisbehindyou2041 there are mate, trust me. We have built a lot of vehicles and variants of them, they can use them as possible adds for every type (tech tree, premium and even squadron). The problem is the Snail that doesn't care of a minor nation like us poor italians (both main and player of such origin). In my comment i wrote down a little list of possible adds but there are more that could be also featured; one problem for that is the number of vehicle actually produced, some are small batches and other just a few... But if they put the Otomatic in the game as a TT SPAAG (which only 2 were built, one on the OF40 hull as featured in the game, the another made on the Leopard 1 modified hull, currently displayed in a museum) there is the chance to have them in the game; one that could help is the OF-40 with the Gepard turret (let's say is like the Chieftain Marksman in the British tree), so we can have a better AA than the SIDAM which have an awful repair cost and just an IRST lock-on. For squadron vehicle there could be the OF-40 mk3, an OF export model fitted with the C1 preserie turret (or maybe as a top tier Premium at 9.7/10.0 with just the DM23 or even DM33 since the C1 Preserie use it), or even better the M60A3 upgraded by Leonardo which is a massive overhaul of the tank featuring composite armor, modern FCS, the same gun used on the B2 Centauro (the 120/45 cannon) and new engine. I still hope for many of them to be add, also the chance to receive a sub-tree, Italy can be a competent nation to play if the right vehicles are featured...the Snail have to give us a chance to prove it.
@thecrab2791
@thecrab2791 Год назад
Have you seen the new BR changes? This entire lineup is getting moved up to 11.0 lmao
@fire_drake12.arc.24
@fire_drake12.arc.24 Год назад
Italy is the only nation with MBTs that have worse weakspots than the Abrams, the Arietes are #1 for worst weakspot layout (the entire tank), and the Abrams comes in at #2 (pretty much the entire tank). Thats just sad.
@wt_ananas
@wt_ananas Год назад
Thanks so much for this video!!!! I have been waiting so long for you to do this one! Thank you very much ! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@aldoclaverini903
@aldoclaverini903 Год назад
The fact is that our territory is surrounded by the sea, and the Italian government aims to improve the air and naval forces. About the ground forces they will think about it in the future, I can only say that in the future The C2 Ariete will arrive, Dardo 2, and a new centauro model
@logannicholson1850
@logannicholson1850 Год назад
I’ve literally lost all hope with the Italian tree 3 years of basically nothing positive for its top tier has just made it more and more depressing, the OTO and the Centauro are the only 2 vehicles in the ground tree that are actually interesting and fun to play
@jansenfoulke3577
@jansenfoulke3577 Год назад
They just need to add the Centauro 2, that is a better Armored, faster Centauro 120, that can sling DM53A1 ever 3 seconds. The can also add the Ariete Hitfact that is a Ariete hull with a Centauro 2 turret on top. Or also the Ariete AMV that is a faster Ariete, with war and PSO kits on an DM53A1. They could also add the Draco that shoots guided HEFSDS
@firecracker7736
@firecracker7736 Год назад
Thank you so much for playing the pizza boys! I wish they were better than they are as well, I think they deserve better top tier tanks so they can compete with the other nations. Hopefully they will give them some stuff soon
@astrophotonics9470
@astrophotonics9470 Год назад
I use the Centauro's as a starter and Arietes as a backup, works for me i do fine, but Gayjin needs to step up their game with Italy.
@Eyeless_Camper
@Eyeless_Camper Год назад
The moment i look at Italy and wonder hmm, should i restart my grind of it? You put out this. XD
@prancer8934
@prancer8934 Год назад
Italy has a lot of great vehicles below top tier and are still one of the most fun nations to play IMO. They get the OF 40 at 7.7 which can just farm everything else at its br by using it's laser range finder and stabilizer. They are still totally worth the grind IMO
@mikelangelo1232
@mikelangelo1232 Год назад
Hungry and Romania will be very helpful for the Italian tech tree
@contemascetti7403
@contemascetti7403 Год назад
Well you know, when you decide to contradict basically all sources (official web site of the company that build this tank included) that states that the C1 has composite both on hull and turret (with even more thickness) this is the result.
@JasonZicker06
@JasonZicker06 Год назад
More than 8k views and only 500 likes? Do 7500 of y'all not like the video? Justin, I only wish you the best!❤️❤️❤️ Keep up the great work!
@charlzgormanov8430
@charlzgormanov8430 Год назад
Good video! The reserve and other Italian 1.0 tanks are very weak compared to their competition. I have played the Italian ground forces tech tree for a long, long time now and there is absolutely no way that these tanks are in any way that comparable or superior to the US, German, or Russian reserve or BR 1.0 tanks. Compared to the same tier Russian/German/US tanks, the M13/M14/M15 tanks are very slow; their turret traverse is also very slow. Reverse speed is horrible. Reload speed is mediocre. Climbing hills is also very slow or do not bother. Frontal armour is terrible unless you angle the tank. Based on personal experience ( I have been playing for years), the 47 MM canon is good for BR level 1.0 or 1.3 but struggles at 1.7 and suffers at 2.0 and above. When up-tiered you will possibly compete against BR 3.0 tanks such as the Medium Tank M4A3 Sherman, T-50, Pz.III L, etc. As a result, my friends and I no longer play the M15, M14, M13 II or M13 III. We have had terrible experience with these M13 vehicles since the June 2022 update. I literally could not pen tanks from several meters. There is no BR 1.3 tank available at the current time. Unfortunately, except for the AB 41, the remaining Italian reserve and BR 1.0 tanks are very poor, no I should say terrible. They are not competitive with the Russian/German/US BR 1.0 tanks. The P40 was good at 2.7, ok at 3.0, and struggles at 3.3. We did not even bother to try tanks at tier 3 or above.
@onkystronky9717
@onkystronky9717 Год назад
PLEASE GAIJIN buff our nation😭
@caesar5380
@caesar5380 Год назад
Ps the mangusta cbt has bugged zoom for like 6 months now...when they introduced the ATAK(T129) the zoom went from 29.9(like the atak,with the same sight)to 12.0 x
@kubawisnia7492
@kubawisnia7492 Год назад
i almoast don't see italian top tier and if i see it in the battle it's like one or two guys. Gaijin really needs to give something good for italy top tier
@Jaco93
@Jaco93 Год назад
Japan can be saved by adding a South korean sub tree with the K1’s,K2’s and T80’s but I have no idea how they can save italy without a copy paste nation which will give it leo’s, like spain, greece or portugal. Its a rough spot.
@theironwolf1871
@theironwolf1871 Год назад
South Korea would be good in the idea but it's like adding Ukraine to USSR looking at the SK and JP communities. I think it's more likely to see a ASEAN tree then SK in Japan at the moment
@abdang7500
@abdang7500 Год назад
im gonna say it, the challengers are worse than the arietes. they both more or less die when penned, they have mediocre darts, but ariete has speed, which makes it easier to use
@Mitron43
@Mitron43 Год назад
Italy has suffered from the most needs in the game, granted some of them were deserved but you also have garbage top tier AA guns that have extremely expensive repair costs added on. I remember that the Sidam 25 was 15000 SL repair cost in GRB and 20000 in Arcade. It’s sad :(
@Adro03287
@Adro03287 Год назад
I dont understand why they got nerfed. They were somewhat good with Arietes having the best shells in the game (at the time the only nation with 625mm apfsds shells), now they have like 589 tops.. whilst armour is nonexistant on arietes, not to mention they are 11.0 now.. like wat
@fst_B
@fst_B Год назад
Man the ariete pso looks so nice, like an upgraded challenger mk1, sad that this thing isnt thst great anymore
@maxhayden8634
@maxhayden8634 Год назад
You do realise the A129cbt got hellfires , also flares and IRCM? Probably the most capable helicopter at 10.0 BR
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV Год назад
I believe I mentioned that I use TOWs over hellfires for reliability. 8 hellfires are far too unreliable to be effective, where as TOWs albeit slower and lacks range does a better job for me.
@maxhayden8634
@maxhayden8634 Год назад
But dont tell anyone or it will get set to 11 if the big3 find out
@maxhayden8634
@maxhayden8634 Год назад
@@JustinPlaysTV Ok ^.^
@notalcapone5957
@notalcapone5957 Год назад
When you said that Japan is right behind them, i yelled HEY! lol, Jap #1 eat my 4 sec reload.
@cloud9sky216
@cloud9sky216 Год назад
First tech tree to max both air and ground tech tree im sticking with this tree im never leaving
@MrAnt69_
@MrAnt69_ Год назад
If only Italy was more competitive, the low tier is fun though!
@chiantozzo9341
@chiantozzo9341 Год назад
The problem is that those vehicles are good but they're placed in br's definitely too high for them. They should add other vehicles and lower the br's of the Ariete tanks.
@leonardomargiotta5772
@leonardomargiotta5772 8 месяцев назад
I enjoy having a disadvantage and still kicking ass
@caesar5380
@caesar5380 Год назад
Me still looking to the oto dreaming somedays the snail gods decide to make it useful against top tier air vehicles too(to engage anything beside helicopters the oto had a rocket propelled shell cabable to reach 12km,the same as both itos and flarakrad)
@JasonZicker06
@JasonZicker06 Год назад
We have reached 10k views. And still, only 600 likes. So 9400k of you don't have the time to click the like button??? Like, how can you not give this AMAZING human being a like? Yet, you have time to watch a 31 minute video? And in the entire time you spent watching this wonderfully edited video, you couldn't give him a like? Show him your enjoying the videos, please! He deserves it. Help him out!
@gansior4744
@gansior4744 Год назад
Italian top tier is my favorite lineup to play. Its relaxing, you have a great lineup, you shit on everything, great Thermals and just fun vehicles
@captainfactoid3867
@captainfactoid3867 Год назад
Even though they are the worst, I am always pleasantly surprised when I play top tier Italy. Also their rounds hits hard. Fantastic spalling.
@marlonthebro5521
@marlonthebro5521 Год назад
I hope that the next update is more about new tanks
@monkeyman17
@monkeyman17 Год назад
Such great teammates!!
@albo322
@albo322 9 месяцев назад
italy suffers, paper tanks, proceeds to eat half team rounds
@SadisNic
@SadisNic Год назад
The Italian tree is falling behind because: 1-Gaijin lacks critical thinking skills. They see the Italian playerbase decline, so they add fewer Italian vehicles, so the playerbase declines, so they add fewer vehicles, and it just spirals out of control. 2-Gaijin actively goes out of their way to nerf Italy in every way imaginable. -They uptier everything (G91YS is about to be a higher BR than some F104s, the Sidam Mistral is the same BR as the LAVAD while having the highest repair cost of any top tier SPAA, the Sag2 had the highest repair cost of any fighter in the game until just a few months ago at 55k and regularly got uptiered to 10.0), the old premium A129(p) got moved to 10.0 (no countermeasures, no ECCM, literally made of paper, a .50 nose gun.) -They refuse to fix bugs on any Italian vehicles. The Sidam's missiles have had the same graphical bug for over three years, the Otomatic's tracking hasn't been accurate to even the War Thunder Wiki in 15 months (They changed it without ever mentioning it in any patch notes, I've checked all of them), the Otomatic hasn't had it's OPTICAL tracking usable with the radar mast down for at least two years, the Ariete has incorrect armor per the literal Leonardo website and whenever it's brought up the conversation gets locked and labelled "Not a Bug", just to name a few.
@charlzgormanov8430
@charlzgormanov8430 Год назад
Absolutely agree...friends and I stopped playing the Italian TT because of the issues you have listed.
@SadisNic
@SadisNic Год назад
@@charlzgormanov8430 I got the Otomatic's radar arc fixed and another guy got the folded IRST fixed, they're giving us the first vehicle in the game with Spikes, the G91YS isn't going to be end of the line anymore so it's playerbase might increase allowing for more accurate stats. In all, Italy has potential at being fixed. I did however have one of the Bug Mods snap at me for posting a bug report that the Vihkrs sets of the Otomatics fuses but causes no damage to the missile.
@9Achaemenid
@9Achaemenid Год назад
It's reliable like the Italian government 😂
@iqstrats1250
@iqstrats1250 Год назад
That abrams... **RATTLE 'EM BOIS**
@burnt_toast1218
@burnt_toast1218 Год назад
still baffles me how the m3a3 still doesn't have TOW-2As
@user-bp7xb9so1j
@user-bp7xb9so1j 3 месяца назад
It is true that the otomatic is old as it was made in the 60s where as adats was made in 80s
@bluhorizon332
@bluhorizon332 Год назад
Gaijin nerfing top tier Italy again after the entire 6 players who play it get a slightly good kd
@7shelties
@7shelties Год назад
Still beyond confusing why the M3A3 Bradley doesn’t get the tandem TOW’s.
@leonleeoff2216
@leonleeoff2216 Год назад
It's not russian...
@Kledooo
@Kledooo Год назад
I still hate how OTOMATIC can only carry 12 APFSDS
@theplum2706
@theplum2706 Год назад
It's historical
@masonicrat
@masonicrat Год назад
When the premium russian light tank is way better than the Ottomatic...
@spycrab1403
@spycrab1403 Год назад
italy really needs a good spaa
@tophatcat6424
@tophatcat6424 Год назад
Gaijin, please help us Italian mains out. At least give us Hungary branch
@sn0lder
@sn0lder Месяц назад
OTOMATIC is 11.3 now LMAO what is gaijin thinking
@armypitcher1410
@armypitcher1410 Год назад
What did you guys think about Japan tech tree and new premium vehicle tank that replace type 74g? Cuz I will grinding this year.
@majo3488
@majo3488 Год назад
I think Gaijin should just give the Arietes at 10.7 the Chally 2 reload rate - but not for just 5.3 seconds. Then they could move them to 11.0.
@GoodGuyAlexx
@GoodGuyAlexx Год назад
"I dont know what it is, im lighting it up tho"💀💀
@dragoneye0979
@dragoneye0979 Год назад
One thing people miss about the ariete is its absolutely *awful* optics. Sure it has gen 2 thermals but go look at its zoom and fov stats. The only top tier mbt that comes close is the type 90
@vladimir0101_
@vladimir0101_ Год назад
The only country with 0 11.0BR ground vehicle…… Ariete just suffers today
@Nier123
@Nier123 Год назад
Justin says " there you are jet! ", while i didn't see sh*t...
@gl4159
@gl4159 Год назад
there are easily way more than 10+ vehicles (at least 5 top tier) vehicles that italy can get for each tech tree, aero (for the heli tech tree theres PLENTY, easily more than 10+ only helis), land, bluewater and coastal, there are discord servers that did research and made suggestion and worked hard to make this possible and they are not heard from gaijin ! gaijin never cared about italian tech tree, and only when they cared to put in the content as how it was, italy has a specific doctrine and needs that requests particular vehicles... (for example thats why they have a lot about armored cars, good mobility based stuff ecc) italy was critized and made only problems for gaijin , thats why they stopped caring, even now, still because of that italy is such underpowered and overBRed. I would like to point out that im not even an italy main, poor italy is such a joke, i have friends that love it, they were italians mains and stopped playing wt bc it wasnt sustainable... i cant blame them tho. Contest: I am a main russia and sometimes america, i play because i like to win. if i had to play italy i would STOP play wt. Said all of that we all know as WT players that if gaijin wanted they would make italy competitive and give it what it must have because they have the content.
@DTC-ex7wg
@DTC-ex7wg Год назад
I genuinely believe the Italian top tier ground is better in 90% of cases than the British ground, not talking Air/Helis. I'd much rather have an Ariete than a Challenger 2, both have a similar round, British don't have any top tier IFVs or wheeled vehicles, and other than the Black Knight, all the Chally 2s are basically the same as the 10.7 one, arguably worse because they trade a negligible armor package for a shit ton of weight. We do have an ADATS, so the AA capabilities are better for the most part, but it has no cannon for breaking barrels/tracks and close helis/strafing planes (I know the missiles are rediculous but I'd trade a third of my missiles for even just a 50 cal for light targets). And the Stormer HVM is useless as Gaijin loves breaking it every other update.
@leflavius_nl5370
@leflavius_nl5370 Год назад
Hey Justin, wanna laugh? Ok, here comes... SIDAM Hussein. That's it, that's the joke.
@jarnas303
@jarnas303 Год назад
The breda boi is fun
@kaiberuss
@kaiberuss Год назад
05:49 somebody killed a child, they murdered an m22
@s.31.l50
@s.31.l50 Год назад
To be fair, Italy does have the worst NATO MBT IRL. Maybe Gaijin can give them Spanish leopard 2E.
@notafrog2040
@notafrog2040 Год назад
That’s cool and all but uhh, have you tried Japan?
@Dragonmaster6587
@Dragonmaster6587 Год назад
wonder if he knows the otomatic has irst
@urfaceaface6776
@urfaceaface6776 Год назад
i love italy too much to main any other country
@gattonero2915
@gattonero2915 Год назад
Interesting thing about C1 Ariete is that While everyone designed a tank with ergonomics surpassing the predecessor vehicle, the italian "goat" tank prefer the concept they already familiar with. In this case, the C1 Ariete has similar crew ergonomic like the Leopard 1 (In fact you can view the C1 Ariete as the final evolution of Leopard 1 in a rough sense). Yes and that also means exposed ammo rack. There's only a few Western tank that still retained an exposed ready rack in today's age. C1, along with South Korean K1 is among those rare few that maintained a ready rack next to a gun without any blast protection to it lol
@federic01ita
@federic01ita Год назад
To be honest... yes, Italy doesn't suck at top tier, it's just that everybody else is just better. The otomatic is probably the best top tier vehicle right now but with it's 10k repair cost it makes it not worth to play... and the sidam is basically the same story, 9k repair cost for a subpar vehicle that even struggles to climb hills... yes it can melt planes that are dumb enough to fly low but at that br it's much more likely that a heli will snipe you from such a distance that you can't lock on it or fire a missile... The repair costs of the tanks are really bad... it's not uncommon that I end up with -23k SL just because I was unlucky enough to meet heli or cas player. In the past it made sense to play the italians top tier because we had the best round in the game, but then gaijin gave it to everybody else so...
@painedkillerk9
@painedkillerk9 Год назад
Lol justin you dont have to explain every video why your killing them in their spawn. If the team is bad enough to get trapped in spawn they kinda deserve it. Its just part of the game. Keep up the great content n have a good day
@yoloactual6975
@yoloactual6975 Год назад
Italy is long overdue for the Centauro 2. But in reality the closest thing to a new tank Italy has IRL is a C2 prototype that never happened. Atleast Japan gets it's Type 10s that are brand new and actually modern. Italy has no such thing to add.
@rohanpreis6883
@rohanpreis6883 Год назад
I main Italy because it has the most unique vehicles. Mid tier is somewhat a copy of America but other than that its all indigenous.
@Skanic
@Skanic Год назад
would love to see this kind of video on the other minor nations.
@raizencore
@raizencore Год назад
While Italy is in undoubtely a very bad spot this was so much fun and doesn't seem as bad as people say. Also, if some of you still can't see whether you have enabled IRST mode or not here's what you can do, go to Options then choose Battle Interface, you'll see an option called "Safe area in HUD" and you should reduce it to 90% which fixes the issue.
@El_Jefe45
@El_Jefe45 Год назад
VRCC Next please?
@buuf456
@buuf456 Год назад
If armor on this modern tanks is classified, how Gajin come with this numbers? They pull them from sky like in WoT?
@Anorexic_Clown
@Anorexic_Clown Год назад
Some idiots leak classified documents to gajin so that tanks/planes can have more accurate stats
@denislavventsislavov2078
@denislavventsislavov2078 Год назад
Players are leaking documents all the times
@AngelosTube
@AngelosTube Год назад
this is good and this is bad yara yara yara... I like toptier but we all know that past 8.0 the player that wins is tha one who shoots first. not the one with a nuke apfsds, not the one with best armor, nor the fastest, but the one who is able to see an enemy without being seen and shoots first. And in 5 years of WT totptier i've never seen a player aiming somewhere else than mantlet or barrel in a frontal confrontation. You can play the same with even the OTOMATIC because that's a common tank weakspot that even it can penetrate with 76mm apfsds. So i'm soo glad that someone finally said it: "it depends on the player" I see italian players doing well as other nations in several games. I see the point of "italians have no armor so the vehicles are not forgiving" but the whole tree is focused ion light vehicles. if you grinded the interity of it you should know well how to use light vehicles and not to get shot in the first place the only real thing they are missing is the heli now ... i agree, but untill GJ decides to implement Spikes Italy wont' get anything in that departmente because the italian most modern helis are able to use ONLY that missile
@kaiberuss
@kaiberuss Год назад
i love the tornado ids from germany, it has the turning circle of a flying schoolbus like you mentioned, but idk why i just love carpet bombing with 12x 1000lbs bombs, its so satisfying to see them go off
@NGC2419-
@NGC2419- Год назад
I love playing italy as it's a minor nation and I can tell people to shut up about them having "bad" vehicles *Ahem* looking at you Russia mains, facts aside I do hope that Italy gets the vehicles and sub trees it so desperately needs like the B2 Centauros, Ariete AMVs, Centauro Draco, and Aermacchi M346 Master. As for sub trees Hungary with the Altay MBT would be nice to see, Romania to fill up rank 5 and 6 with interesting upgraded T-55/64, and Spain for some other stuff. All that is ground and I mainly play air so what interests me is the mig-29, Gripen, and F-16C. One day is all I can hope for though because screw minor nations right.
@Deku-eq3py
@Deku-eq3py Год назад
I got a feeling no one really cares if you spawn because ik I don’t since it’s normal
@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL
@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL Год назад
Top tier suffering low br like 4.7 is bias op Italian moments looking at you 501
@doomtark8480
@doomtark8480 Год назад
Surely the Centauro 2 is coming soon...
@viniciusmoreschi6970
@viniciusmoreschi6970 Год назад
maybe is too broken
@Dony222_
@Dony222_ Год назад
As a italian i can agree the same real life
@adyenmurry7027
@adyenmurry7027 Год назад
Hey Justin do you grind your vehicles in sim or just realistic?
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV Год назад
RB strictly, I prefer to not play sim anymore, unfortunately.
@pierspinelli8352
@pierspinelli8352 Год назад
As an italian i feel like that sad cat
@mathewweeks9069
@mathewweeks9069 Год назад
Your awesome
@KKronos252
@KKronos252 Год назад
Is that "no stabilizer after 76kph" realistic or is it a bug? It is really an annoying thing...
@dragoneye0979
@dragoneye0979 Год назад
no everything with a stabilizer has a maximum stabilized speed, centauros are just one of the only ones that can realistically hit that speed
@KKronos252
@KKronos252 Год назад
@@dragoneye0979 Thank you for the answer, I had no idea.
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 8 месяцев назад
Basically the Italian tech tree is for pro players. 🤔😤😎
@ser43_OLDC
@ser43_OLDC Год назад
Italy needs Spain with their leopards and fighters
@markjackson7650
@markjackson7650 Год назад
They need to add a turkish sub tree to Italy and a south Korean subtree to Japan.
@fabioa3293
@fabioa3293 Год назад
In reality the ariete has an armor comparable to a russian t80, but in game It's armor doesn't exist
@khalilmqds4946
@khalilmqds4946 Год назад
German giving away its suffer crown to italia
@sn0wi4everpc42
@sn0wi4everpc42 8 месяцев назад
did you guys know the OTOMATIC when it first came out it was 9.3
@markkk04
@markkk04 7 месяцев назад
its 11.3 now
@markkk04
@markkk04 7 месяцев назад
or 11.7
@sn0wi4everpc42
@sn0wi4everpc42 7 месяцев назад
@@markkk04 I know but when it came in the game it was 9.3
@Rocky0_99
@Rocky0_99 Год назад
The Italians lack AA so why not just add the Draco i mean it’s a unique weapon system and i think it would be effective. There was once a vote on the forums and it received overwhelmingly positive feedback (90% voted for the draco to be added), this led to it being passed to the devs for consideration. So why not add what the community wants for once, gaijin?
@thecrab2791
@thecrab2791 Год назад
Tbf, the draco's turret did not work and lacked an FCS. (IMO, i think it would be fine to bend the rules and end the draco since there are already vehicles like the radkampfwagen, and Italy really needs the draco)
@Rocky0_99
@Rocky0_99 Год назад
@@thecrab2791 Well they seem to be able to bend the rules when it comes to Germany so why not Italy? We have stuff like radkampfwagen and ostwind 2 so i see why they wouldn’t be able to do the same with the draco.
@regachi6554
@regachi6554 8 месяцев назад
your wish came true
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