Indeed now that this Wukong is unrestricted by the head band I wonder if China will be destroyed if the Chinese gods were destroyed just like how Kratos killed the Greek Gods
As you delve deeper into ancient Chinese mythology, you'll find that the more you learn, the less you feel you truly understand. There are just too many fascinating stories within this vast system.
@@阿梦得 and I love it. Isn't that what mythology and legends are about? Learning. Archeologists do it to understand about lives then. I enjoy learning whether to I understand it or not. It's also about the journey as well
@@DarkAngel-hy7io Many religious people may not understand it as well as atheists or foreigners because they have a negative attitude towards myths outside their own sect, whether it is other religions or folk versions.
@@jrwolf4955 i agree with you. But me I love the different cultures around the world. Myths and legends are apart of the world. I wanted to be an archeologist and travel the world to study the different locations. And make discoveries that could improve the knowledge of the cultures. But what I truly enjoy is the ancient cultures. I heard that for every myth and legend there is a bit of truth. So for me this is wonderful insight. As I know I will not be able to see the artifacts first hand.
Just like the king is not as good at fighting as the knight, he may need foreign aid. So he will not allow a country (Huaguoshan) that threatens him at any time to exist, so he started a war again. The story may be a metaphor for the United States' rule over other countries.
@@jrwolf4955 "Journey to the West" is entirely a work of fiction. At the time of the chaos in Heaven, Sun Wukong only had the power level of a 玄仙, whereas a common celestial general like Nezha was already a 太乙金仙, which is three levels higher than 玄仙. In Chinese mythology, the Jade Emperor was at the threshold of becoming a Saint 圣人, which can be considered half a step away from being a True God. He was the most powerful being in Heaven. Even the 2,500-year-old Buddha could not match the level of strength of the Jade Emperor.
@@ThoreClips10 我一开始就说中国的神权从来就是为封建王朝服务，从未超过王权，如果西游记是根据现实社会影射，所以即使是高高在上的皇帝，单打独斗可能打不过手下的将领，甚至普通士兵。当然也有例外，比如第一剌客荆柯连秦王都打不过，这是另一个故事。小说创作于嘉靖年间，本来就是讽剌帝王和官场的，所以创作思想肯定不会让他强大，所以才有大闹天宫的故事。I said at the beginning that theocracy in China has always served the feudal dynasty and has never surpassed the royal power. If Journey to the West is based on the real society, then even the emperor who is high above may not be able to defeat his generals or even ordinary soldiers alone. Of course, there are exceptions, such as the first assassin Jing Ke who couldn't even defeat the King of Qin, which is another story. The novel was written during the Jiajing period, and it was originally a satire on the emperor and the officialdom, so the creative idea would definitely not make him powerful, so there is the story of havoc in heaven.
@@khai96x stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Don’t speak if you’re lack of knowledge. What if I say the mythology of your country and believe are fiction ? You define mythology and fiction are the same kid ?
There are numerous perspectives on the Jade Emperor, who is considered by many to be the current sovereign of the divine realm. However, it is believed that he is not the original or ancient god but rather a successor to a lineage of divine rulers. Following the decline of the ancient deities, their disciples were ennobled as immortals within the heavenly annals, and it is with these immortals that the Jade Emperor forms his governing coalition. Prior to his ascension, the Jade Emperor was a mortal who is said to have lived through ten thousand existences, which could imply that he might have had ten thousand mothers across these lives. His role is primarily administrative, and he is not considered as potent as other deities. This is exemplified in the tale of Sun Wukong, the Monkey King, who, in his rebellion, was able to best the celestial hosts. It was only through the intervention of the Buddha from an external tradition that the Jade Emperor was able to quell the uprising and maintain his rule. This is just one of the versions I understand, or a combination of multiple versions.In Chinese history and religion, divine powers never surpassed the authority of the monarchy, hence even the immortals were subject to the rigid feudal governance. Wukong, possessing formidable abilities, attempted to join this power structure, only to ultimately realize that he remained an outsider.
@@jrwolf4955 In early Chinese mythology, the Heavenly Court was initially ruled by the Yao Tribe, a divine race originating from ancient divine beasts. In this ancient era, the Heavenly Court engaged in warfare with the Xu Tribe (a divine race born from the body of the god Pangu). Subsequently, the ancient Heavenly Court fell into decline. At this time, the supreme deity of Daoism, Hong Jun, attained the level of Heavenly Dao (the cosmic laws) and appointed one of his two attendants to become the new ruler of the Heavenly Court, who was the Jade Emperor.
@@ThoreClips10 no,yao(姚) is human king,if you know chinese history,the earliest history of china is the tribe of huangdi and yandi,huangdi unified the earliest chinese dynasty,yao(姚),shun(舜) and yu(禹) were the three periods that succeeded huangdi
@@jrwolf4955 Have you ever been to a Daoism temple ? I doubt you are a Chinese living in China or Asia region. Don't you know that Wukong is just a fictional character and he is not officially worshiped in any temple while The Jade Empepor is a supreme god in Chinese mythology.
@@shadowhowl975 while Buddha is only 2500ish year-old. So if someone says The Jade Emperor fears Buddha or Wukong, it's simply bullshit. Do not be fooled by the movie Journey to the West, a mere fictional movie.
@@shadowhowl975 google is quite right. Although the exactly age of The Jade Emperor is hard to say but the mythology does say that he had gone through aeons of practice before rising to his throne. The Buddha’s age or several hundred years of Wukong’s age are nothing but a blink in comparison to his existence in time.
And yet this Emperor only comes ever so close to what the true God of creation is like. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And Who’s precious Son Jesus forgives us and brings us to Him in eternal life. The Gospels say so much wonderful things about Him.
Not exactly, according to mythology, in this era of the universe, there are only 6 Sheng Ren (True Gods), The Jade Emperor is at Semi- Seng Ren level (a level defined by "stepping a foot into True God Hood") or you can say Semi - True Gods. Despites being lower than True God, Semi- True Gods are the highest and most powerful beings in Heaven. Almost all deities in Chinese mythology are lesser beings than True Gods and Semi- True Gods. It is said that The Jade Emperor was once a servant besides the Maker of Daoism. In oder to rise to Semi - True God level, he must practice Daoism through hundred thousands of era (an era might last millions of years) and through countless reincarnations of him.
@@barbiebarbie1813 what the hell ? You’re assumption is so wrong. Do you know Nezha was originally a pearl ? Wukong was a rock. There are countless other Chinese gods originated from heavenly beasts or things. Even from clouds, sun, moon, stars…
@@ThoreClips10 Chinese Buddhism (Han Buddhism). Dont associate it with India Buddhism. There is a huge difference between the two. Chinese Buddhism is 3 religious combinations 1 . 三教合一 . ( 道Taoism+儒Confucianism+釋Buddhism ). China retains the content of the Buddhist scriptures. Simple Indian Buddhist ? ancient Chinese do not accept it "Taoism" has formed Chinese culture and Chinese philosophy. (Heaven) "Confucianism" regulates the moral concepts and etiquette of the Chinese. (Human world) "Buddhism" affects the concept of life and death of the Chinese. (hell) From its inception, " Chinese Buddhism" has been influenced by native Chinese religions and philosophy, especially Confucianism and Taoism, but also Chinese folk religion. Before the emergence of Buddhism, the Chinese did not have the concept of hell. So when the Chinese described hell, they would quote Buddhism. In Chinese Buddhism, all Buddhas are Chinese. Otherwise, the ancient Chinese would not have accepted it. Initially, the ancient Chinese very much rejected Buddhism (which seriously violated the culture and spirit of Taoism and Confucianism. Cutting off hair and being irresponsible to family and work Responsibility). Some interest groups promoted Buddhism in China. Add a lot of Taoist and Confucian culture. Radically transform Buddhism into a Chinese religion. (preserve the content of Buddhist scriptures). Let the ancient Chinese believe that Buddhism is a Chinese religion. Only then can they accept Buddhism. * The only job of ancient Chinese monks was to save the souls of the dead. All Chinese Buddhas and styles are Chinese in China. Their appearance, clothing and culture are all changed to Chinese (or Taoist gods). Some use the same phonetic name. Represent the same function or incarnation. In Chinese Buddhism, everything non-Chinese is excluded (except for the words in Buddhist scriptures). In Chinese Buddhism (Han Buddhism), anyone as long as anyone opens wisdom (let go of desire). He can become Buddha. There is a saying in China: " 放下屠刀立地成佛 A butcher becomes a Buddha the moment he drops his cleaver. "人人都是佛 Everyone is a Buddha. 滿街都是聖人The streets are full of saints.". In history, many ancient Chinese have become Buddhas. So many Buddha statues of different images in China are those ancient Chinese (most of them are monks). -------------------------- Chinese Buddhism and Indian Buddhism are completely different. Even in many countries with Buddhist cultures in Southeast Asia, their Buddhist culture and content are completely different (the difference from Chinese Buddhism is also huge). India's main religion and Buddhism is antagonistic. Ancient Buddhism appeared and developed in a certain place in Asia for only a short time (not today India). But Buddhism has existed in other countries and peoples for hundreds of years. Various Buddhist cultures on the earth have India is not relevant. Indians should not fantasize about the whole world.
@@ThoreClips10 Although the protagonist goes to obtain Buddhist scriptures, the content is a story with Taoist culture as the main body.Heaven is Taoism and Chinese ancestors, and monkeys(Including various animal monsters) come from Chinese Taoist Stories and opera stories. *Sun Wukong is a real Taoist god in real life, find Wushiqi, Aquatic Monkey god who defeated by Yellow Emperor in legend, but some tribes peoples in Fujian and Fuzhou still worship him as a god. The original form of (india)Buddha is in hell, in charge of death. In Journey to the West, Chinese Buddha (the incarnation of consciousness) is placed in the sky. He is governed by Chinese Taoism gods and becomes a member of little god. ---------------- Chinese Buddhism (Han Buddhism) and Indian Buddhism are different. Chinese Buddhism is 3 religious combinations 1 . 三教合一 . ( 道Taoism+儒Confucianism+釋Buddhism ). China retains the content of the Buddhist scriptures. Simple Indian Buddhist ? ancient Chinese do not accept it From its inception, " Chinese Buddhism" has been influenced by native Chinese religions and philosophy, especially Confucianism and Taoism, but also Chinese folk religion. Before the emergence of Buddhism, the Chinese did not have the concept of hell. So when the Chinese described hell, they would quote Buddhism. "Taoism" has formed Chinese culture and Chinese philosophy. (Heaven) "Confucianism" regulates the moral concepts and etiquette of the Chinese. (Human world) "Buddhism" affects the concept of life and death of the Chinese. (hell)
