No the hell he’s not. He simply said he staying out of it he’s not there. Same way we all should feel until he’s found guilty! Oh.. except she never pressed criminal charges…
Any girl can say anything with the way yall think.. you don't even see women as being capable humans, it's like some people look at young woman as being autistic, I was offered drugs at 21 and said no
Salute to us non patronees, I almost was tempted to cop it but after those snippets dropped of Joe being on the ledge, I confirmed to myself that I’ll never buy that shit..PS it ain’t broke, I just don’t have an extra 4-10 hours to listen to extra content with safe takes & plea cops!
@@harlemkid144Thank you, people can't even listen carefully and sees that they not whit those allegations but most people on here or life would stand against police beating a blk men wrongfully, so I should call them coward?
Joe has definitely come on that podcast and criticized ppl for allegations he got from blogs before 100%….he’s protecting that relationship and he danced around it
@fearismanmade so I have to watch the whole thing to comment?????lol I could’ve had enough when it was getting dry…apparently a bunch of others felt the same as me so that makes you weird for standing on the other side. Bitch
Joe is selective. With both his accountability and his outrage. Especially when it’s someone he knows or respects. We know this. His comments and stances are completely expected.
Joe didn’t want to speak on it because he does the same things Diddy was accused of. He doesn’t think Cassie is a victim. The invalidating started as soon as he said “I like freak-offs.” Sad
this comment is so true that I’m gonna post it again…because WE CAN dictate the way the pod goes. also shame on Ish for asking why the JBP has to be the “sacrificial lamb”?!? like they weren’t named #1 hip-hop podcast of the year
I'm hearing a bunch of people say they cancelled Patreon and people are taking a break from the pod. I think I'm just off of it Hearing Joe joke on Cassie and then talk about love for FOs. Ice wasn't with none of that. Ice wasn't rolling wit it. This episode was hard to hear as a man.
Joe there's nothing wrong with freak offs if both parties are consensual about it. Drugging, Beating, Harassing, Coercing, Blackmailing someone to do a freak off and spreading the footage is the illigal part of the whole thing. Let's not act stupid.
The whole reason the entretaiment industry is a shit hold and people are abused on the daily is because nobody stand up against this people, they are always protected. Is about time people stop working to protect Diddy.
Ice is the only one that stood on business. Shout to him. Joe is a weirdo and obviously terrified of losing that Diddy relationship. He himself is an abuser so of course he would make excuses for another abuser.
For them to compare a freaky night of exploration to what Diddy is alleged of doing is nuts. Cassie claims she didnt want to take part in these things nor did she enjoy them. One report said she was crying before hand and throwing up at the thought. Yall really tried it smh
@jussamaru4153 I'm not rolling bro. They are described as very toxic. Even if she did like 50/50 the other 50% she didn't like is wayy too much anyone should have to endure
Im no Diddy fan right, but how do we know she didn't enjoy and then started feeling some type of way after not saying she doesn't have that right but is that really fair if u have fun then later say I hated do u get to sue? Now she may be telling the truth and Diddy may be a nasty man but do we really know or are we just chosing sides based off past alleged behavior and hip hop heads know what I'm talking bout but whatever I'm gonna say I don't know who's lying or telling the truth so I don't know shit and I don't think most people know anything about the TRUTH either
If the next person allegedly blows up people cars in their driveways I am sure he will and people acting like they would not do the same to wave the Truth Teller banner for the internet is super duper CAP 🧢!!!!
@@brothernumpceecap!! Joe always talks big about he keeps the same energy and had beef with real street dudes he ain’t back down, he ain’t scared blah blah he not like the other pu**y podders, etc…
What was described as a freak off in the law suit was without her consent, under coercion and broke the law. Men don’t have to try hard to understand that. Stop it
See Mal handled the Diddy thing correctly. Called Diddy out for his nasty behavior and called the whole “culture” out for when it comes to people in the culture they have to defend them but, if it was a actor or politician the whole pod would dissect the issue and do a deep dive. However since it’s Diddy they scared and trying to protect their overall industry relationships.
No one watches Mal dude. The JBP is the number one podcast, that diddy actually watches. The consequences are different. It goes beyond industry relationships.
So you are saying Joe a BIG OL USSY then. TY for validating my point and imagine caring what people watch or dont watch on their free time. Go back to being an imbecile ON THANKSGIVING. @@IsaAC-ct5rx
Ya gotta pick a side either Diddy run shit, snd can get people touched or he cant and some people want to see whats going on cause thats their peoples. Just like years ago when Joe was in tis very same position
Yall thought puff was guilty no matter how fast slow or if he ever settled. Yall really need to stop acting like things that aren't evidence are evidence.
The last month of pods been trash, & the way Joe responds to the Cassie situation just added the garbage cherry on top, Joes just become a talking head at this point, basically admitted this episode we should no longer look to him for substance outside of the let’s get the views up hot takes he provides every now & then & even a lot of those seems premeditated to me
@@KingKalidoryou & these dumbasses on this Pod think its about view. It’s about exposing someone who has sexually assaulted women & men too , got ppl killed, lord knows what else. He so big in the industry everyone too scared to speak up. They been saying tht about Puff since the 90s lol,
Shout out to Mal for being solid as always and having the balls to be a real man. Joe got y’all out here looking like industry puppets. He knew his checkered past better not speak up.
53:35 the way how Flip pushes the mic away from him😂 Joe is so full of it. I would've respected it so much more if they didn't speak about it at all. Joe just spews so much ignorance. I gotta take a break from pod.
Normally I go against ICE, I always ride with Ish. But today, ICE is the truth, Joe constantly does hypocritical stuff. I'm super surprised that Flip didn't go absolutely nuts. My guy Ish, is not holding his normal stance and it's nasty
Every since Joe went to that Diddy party, where he said he disappeared for 2hrs supposedly got lost in the mansion.....he's been dressing different and wearing a cape for anything Diddy.....go back and listen to his Diddy party experience 😂
I’ve been waiting for someone to say this. Cause the way he is caping for Diddy and belittling FO as if it’s nothing, I am appalled. I’m like how he gonna call out Drake a few weeks ago with passion about him dating young girls and here we have Diddy’s abuse stories of how he treated young girls for decades and this is what Joe does? I’m like the only conclusion I can come too, is perhaps he was engaging in said FO perhaps with Diddy, during the times he was up at his mansion. Cause I can’t imagine him protecting him this much for anything else. Diddy either had him bent over or he was engaging in abusive shit with Diddy.
With Joes stance moving forward they shouldn't talk about anybody elses scandal. Went off on Jada Pinkett Smith, etc. This is an example of how our culture limits growth. Yall have dogged people out now its Diddy you have all this professionalism.
@@Derrickneal1352 Nobody will ever drag Charlamagne or Nore for it. They only want to hear it from Joe and not the people that are actually currently signed under Puff
As he should. Why should he jeopardize anything because strangers on the internet who are mostly losers want him too ? Especially when there is no hardcore evidence and she opted for money over justice.
He couldn't wait to talk shit about DJ envy, he even pressed his co-hosts to dog pile. So I can agree with people saying he has selective outrage. He frequently gives Flip hell for not wanting to speak negatively about his friends... Yet Joe takes the same stance.
Nobody knows how long Cassie has been fighting this. We only know when it got to this explosive part. I remember a while back when the husband was talking recklessly to and about Puffy.
I wish they would have done their research on the Cassie topic. It was too late for her to file criminal charges due to the statute of limitations. But Joe over here insinuating that she’s disingenuous. From the sounds of it he’s already picked Diddy’s side. Either he doesn’t believe her or he’s being performative because he know Diddy watching
But she is disingenuous. If someone does the things diddy is ALLEGEDLY accused of to you in let’s say dec 12 of 2008, and you didn’t file a report, press charges and have that person tried in court on Dec 12 of 2008, and years person who wronged you that you willingly didn’t press charges on years ago becomes a billionaire and all of a sudden you wanna file a lawsuit for money (because that’s what she file for, a settlement not to put diddy in jail) that is 1000% disingenuous and a form of self disrespect cause why wait when you could went to the police the min it happened to you? Because she wanted to keep the good times rolling until she had enough. That’s the truth, you lil internet warriors refuse to accept that all Cassie is, is a gold digger and a diva (the female version of hustler).
Joe's whole rant could've just been cut down to "diddy is richer than me and i don't want to risk that business relationship and also i'm scared that he'll press me if i say anything" Dude tries so hard to sound smart and calculated about not standing on the morals he claims he has. That's it. You either keep it 100 or don't. Either way, own it like a man
That's not what that means....that's like saying dudes pay for puzzy can't get none for free. Sometimes its about convenience not accessibility. Him paying could just possibly have been the long term cheaper route much like buying puzzy in the long run ends up being the cheaper route. Cause he could have paid for lawyers,kept going back and forth to court for a year or more,plus the whole media coverage blocking any other potential deals during the legal process. Paying 30 million might have been just the cheaper option by leaps and bounds.
@@jeromejenkins151 nah bruh, innocent people who have access to the lawyers Diddy has access to, do not pay out money like this IMMEDIATELY after the public finds out without 1)her having actual proof and witnesses and 2) there is truth to the allegations. These are basic facts.
@@jeromejenkins151paying that when she originally asked would’ve been cheaper n saved him some embarrassment. He didn’t think she had it in her which if u do those things to somebody you already think they’re weak or that no one would believe them. That book would’ve definitely did more than 30 million just based on the details that were filed. N I’m pretty sure he paid more than that to make sure she doesn’t say anything else. But as u can see it only takes one person to bring everybody out. You think he’s gonna fight or settle with the new law suit or future law suits against him to take the cheaper route
Man this guy really thinks people are dumb 🤦🏽♂️ he has had no problem speaking on anybody else who’s been accused of all types of lewd, heinous and criminal activity, but now all of a sudden he’s afraid of things being chopped up and misinterpreted🤦🏽♂️ now speaking on it so fast wouldn’t be “the right timing” 🤦🏽♂️ now he needs proof to give an opinion on things when he’s been doing it for all the years he’s had a pod🤦🏽♂️ ok man
What’s disgusting is how they are discussing Cassie’s role in all of this as if it was voluntary. I get what they are saying but she didn’t seem to want to be moving in those type of circles only puff
Yes because Rory and mal didn’t get a job from diddy at any point … they don’t owe diddy nothing ….im sure if jayz was to be in the same position mal would be quiet aswell🤷🏽♂️
@@ifesinachiorijekwe10 because he's always hung his hat on integrity, morals, etc. Why stop that on THIS situation in particular? He tears up MAD other people on this podcast based on accusations
It ain’t gotta be about entertainment! We want to have the discussion period! It’s about putting the bs in our community idc how famous or rich they need to be outed
Yeaaa I think Joe is missing the part of where his voice can make a difference ….hopefully he wakes up one day and sees the positive influence his platform can have
Cause they too p*ssy to go to the police and press charges. Closed mouth don’t get fed. If you don’t say sh*t don’t expect sh*t to happen. It’s weird how we’ve been “believing all women” since the 70s feminist wave and yet so many “victims” have somehow never found justice. Stop the bullsh*t and speak up or suffer in silence. Make your bed or don’t but either way that’s all on you.
Lmao Joe saying “I don’t have any evidence of him doing stuff “ 😭😭😭like you had evidence on all the people you gossiped on or just made content for the pod
Joe not talking about Diddy just confirms what a menace Puff is. If you like it or not, Joe is the most outspoken person in that industry. So him being that uptight speaks volumes. Let's not forget, there are pictures of Joe attending some Diddy parties. You never know what goes on bts...
It’s tricky because clearly Diddy could mess up everything Joe has built if he tackles this wrong. But you literally have to choose between your professional relationship and moral compass.
Proof that Diddy is so powerful he can shut a grown ass man up.. but that same grown ass man wants to act like it’s unbelievable that he had a 19 year old girl under his control
@@zephaniahmcdaniels he is but he knows how huge his platform. So many ppl wanted his take on the subject for a reason. If this situation is about anyone other than Diddy we know he'd be all over it
@@zephaniahmcdaniels Joe has been very transparent. He says things like "if an artist can deliver some slaps, then he wouldn't care about all the other things they're saying about that artist". He openly gave a list of people that he would never say anything bad about on several occasions even on Everyday struggle. He never said he was perfect. People used criticize him on Everyday struggle also cuz they say things like "Joe did not keep the same energy when such and such finally showed up on the show". He was always criticized for one thing or the other. People just forget about things in the past and act like he changed
There was ALOT of vacillating when it came to Diddy. Even Flip didn’t add much insight! Goes to just what control and power Diddy {may} has cuz we’ve seen the JBP have very volatile opinions on similar topics involving other male celebrities. Just wanted Cassie to have peace and justice. Happy Thanksgiving JBP! 🦃💐🧡💛🤎
19:21 Why? Because JOE has said he's the voice of the Culture! You can't be the voice, when your associates AREN'T involved. Then when they are, you clam-up. We all know Joe had his OWN abuse allegations a couple of years ago. He has to be quiet. I just wish he would say that versus this nonsense he's spewing.
@@MussoliniLondon Then Joe said that when he spoke to AK he was petrified after his Puff comments. Being that open about someone of Puffy's stature and with Cassie accusing him of that shit that hasn't been proven in court could open you up to a nasty lawsuit of your own. Joe getting roasted for tiptoeing around the subject is hypocritical seeing if they were in his shoes they probably would have done the same. Joe had to do what he had to do in order to protect his bread at the end of the day.
@@gunnyo50 Tbh Joe's joking about the petrified thing, he meant it in a way where AK's scared that Diddy will blow up his car too, AK was joking about it all through the week how he would have to hire security and start riding bikes etc, but I definitely believe Diddy did it, he needs Jail
When it’s a partner, husband or boyfriend that commits those acts against you it is extremely hard to get a DA to even file the charges AND it puts the victim under attack again…this keeps happening because we can’t get men to hold each other accountable. If men just gave their homeboys shade when they knew this was happening it would help a lot.
Better idea would be for Cassie to become an activist but she took the money and will continue to shut the fuck up until the money is spent. The fucked up thing is we only heard these things since the beginning of the Diddy era and it gives Robert Kelly vibes
Joe know that the only reason people was hounding him for his opinion is because he has the strongest opinions on everybody else but now he wanna handle diddy with care
Joe talking like somebody knowing he did some vile ish back in his day. This is nuts... shout out to Flip for keeping out of this 🐈 popping segment. They full of ish. Honey combs got them shook.
Joe always on the side of the abuser cause you can't talk about Diddy because you don't know what's going on but had no problem kicking Meg back in for the past 3 years while also not knowing what was going on, he weird
This is all so disappointing, I was abused from 18-20 I was a college student and I dropped out bc of it. I protected him from going to jail and that’s always haunted me. But if he was rich and unlikely to be found guilty bc he can afford good representation. You BET I’d take a couple million dollars bc that would probably hurt him more!! And it will afford me to have a better life!!! But he’s not rich and I protected him so I’ll never get SHIT. Good for Cassie usually I can take all the annoying things y’all say but this is too much
