Imagine having Joe Montana being your qb and Steve being the backup. That would be a great problem to have. While I agree that Joe was the goat before Brady came along, people take Young for granted, especially the 49er fans, they were too spoiled by the number of great players they had
Steve Young was a great QB, I just think Joe Montana was better. I'm not even a 49ers fan, I'm a Saints fan. Steve Young was very good, he just couldn't dissect defenses as well as Joe Montana
Montana easily is the better qb, but he suffered a ton of damage over time. It was time for steve young to lead the 49er. In revisionist history, 49ers made the right call. Joe lasted 2 more seasons with the chiefs and 49er had a core to get back to the superbowl. If it wasn't for the dallas dynasty, the niners would have probably at least made the superbowl one more time.
As a niners fan who grew up in the 2010s with smith and eventually kapaernick, it makes me pissed when my dad tells me about Montana and young. Like he grew up with two of the greats, and I got two devastating Super Bowl losses🥲
I was 1 years old in 88' but my dad was a superfan so I've been a niners fan my entire life in the heart of Patriots country, I live 30 mins from Gilette. The history is nuts wish I was old enough to remember this stuff. First game I can remember is the 1992 NFCCG game against the Cowboys
Love the music intro. To me, it wasn't the quarterbacks fault. Bill Walsh did that on purpose. They knew Joe time was running out as an elite QB. His body was breaking down. Joe won that last ring in '89. Steve Young only needed to wait until Joe would inevitably get hurt again and the team was his. That's how it played out. Tough for Joe being that it happened in the NFC Championship Game but that's football.
I believe if Steve would have shown he was a better passer or equally better passer as he was a runner, he would have been the starter in 1987 or 88. Steve was very inconsistent as a passer back then, and I believe Bill Walsh used that as the determining factor
I absolutely agree. It was extremely obvious that Steve wasn't on the same level as Montana when it came to throwing the ball in the small number of games he played in 87/88. However, Steve was certainly more athletic and more what they call "twitchy" when it came to improvising with running the ball. If Steve was a little farther along in his development as a passer, he would have been the obvious choice at quarterback from 87/88 onwards. But Joe is Joe, and was a master at passing the ball and being a leader of men. Much like Brady, Montana was never an impressive physical specimen, but it was the things you couldn't see that made him the great player he was.
Steve Young needed to be a backup for the first couple years, he had potential, but needed to put it all together. It kinda worked out in the end, Joe was beaten up when he left.
49ers crapped on Montana so bad never should have been a controversy Joe would have won two more super with Joe if they would have stayed with the greatest Joe cool tool them letting him call his own plqyes
Montana made me like football as a child. Young made me love it. Their battle always makes me wonder how many legendary quarterbacks we missed out on because they never got a chance in the league. It's crazy how terrible he was with Tampa Bay only to eventually break the QB rating record with accuracy out of this world. It would have been so easy for him to have never gotten the right chance with the right team.
Great work putting this video together. I feel so blessed being able to watch these games. I was in high school when Joe was beating my Giants and then I was able to enjoy Steve while in college, but hey at least my G-Men won 2. Thanks LT 🤣
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"The hits quarterbacks had taken back in those days were nothing compared to today." The qb hits back then were far more devastating compared to what we see today is more like it.
As a Cowboy fan, I'll never forget the 1992 NFC Championship game where a healthy Joe Montana sat on the bench. Thank you. Steve was good but he's no JoMo! Joe is the GOAT. Excellent video, exactly as I remember it.
@11:45 Mike Holmgren is an unsung hero in that coach's meeting. He was the one with the balls to stand up and say to Bill, "Bill, you're the problem. Pick one (Quarterback) and be done with it. This is tearing the locker-room apart." It was after that meeting Bill chose to start Joe Montana. It brought an end to an experiment that blew up in Bill's face.
@ 3:00 - "the hits QBs took back then were nothing compared to what we see today." - you wrote that wrong. The hits we see today are nothing compared to the ones back then. It doesn't work the other way around. The hits they took back then were EVERYTHING compared to the hits we see today.
I remember watching a video clip of Mike Holmgren telling Bill Walsh during the 1988 season that the 49ers would continue to struggle unless he picked either Montana or Young as the starting QB. Walsh choose Montana and they would go on to win 2 more Super Bowls. Young was very patient and a team player. If he wanted to, he could of demanded a trade and start on another team. But he choose to wait until Montana was traded in 1993 and Young became the permanent starter.
@@mikeybarboza3086 Young could of force the 49ers hand by demanding to start games or sit out the season. He was in position to negotiate since he played well. Plus the 49ers already had Montana. Teams did trade players if it benefited the team. Like the Hershel Walker trade and Charles Haley trade.
@@zerimar26 The only thing Young could do was sit out but the Niners could have sued him for breach of contract and teams would have nosedived in interest for him because of 'behavioral problems.' Mikey's right, it was a totally different era. Teams had all the power and owners worked closely together to hold 'problem players' down.
I would have traded young because you would get a lot for young and you had bono as a backup. I would take that scenario over what they did. Unfortunately craig fumbled and lost the quest for threepeat and then Montana got hurt
In America's game, Harris Barton would say that if Steve Young and the 49ers didn't blow the lead against he Cardinals, Steve said he probably would have finished the season out as a starter. This was the back against the wall type of grit you see. 6-5 and essentially needed to win out to win the division. They went 10-6 and after destorying the VIkings, they played the Bears and just torched them in the extreme cold. For those old enough to watch the 88 season, you knew that the 49ers weren't going to lose.
Die 9er fan, this was b4 I became teenager & lived in the Bay Area, those were great times to be a 9er fan, still its rough watching them get to there 2 latest super bowls & watch defeat, but one day they will get there 6th
Cowboys dynasty was to great, the reality is that Young was alot better than Montana its just Young had to deal with a beget dynasty. Montana dealt with no dynasty.
Young was playing much better than Montana during the late season and playoffs of the 87 season.Montana was coming off a serious injury.You could see in the playoff game against the Vikings Young was leading them down the field in relief for Montana that left them down b three touchdowns.
i could see why montana would be pissed. at young he had already won 2 super bowls when steve young came to the 49 ers . young actually asked to be traded to the 49ers. as soon as young got to the team he was saying how bad he wanted to play. if i was montana i would of said to young why are you even here. you could start for most other teams in the league im joe montana im already a legend and this is my team now get the hell out of here
People forget the 49ers we’re every bit as bad as the Bucs were when Montana became the QB. Yea Walsh showed up and they were more competitive, but they still lost. Montana turned them into a Dynasty just as Brady did for New England. The great ones can do that. Young went to Tampa and was so bad that he was labeled a bust. When he was traded to the 49ers he knew he landed in a sweet gig. Yea young was bigger, stronger, and faster than Joe but almost every QB in the league was bigger, faster, and stronger than Joe was. Steve Young had several chances to leave after San Fran traded for him. Joe was winning Superbowls while Steve was holding a clipboard. However, Steve never left lol. He knew, he knew the cake was already in the oven. He didn’t have to create anything, just steer the ship that has already been created, a winning culture that he didn’t have to build, it was already in place. Sorry bruh, The 49ers will always be known as the house Joe, Jerry, and Ronnie Lott built. This is coming from a Saints fan who had to watch my team deal with these two forever. We respected Steve, but Joe….we as the entire League feared this dude. He gave you nightmares.
Montana was better than young because his legacy was in the playoffs. He got better as the pressure built.....but looking at Steve's stats in the regular season he was the most efficient qb of all time when compared to his Era. He only had 8 full seasons with the 49ers that qualify him in league leaders. In 8 years he led the league in tds 4 times....comp pct 5 times....avg yds per pass 5 times....NFL qb rating leader 6 times.....and 2 nfl mvps. No qb in the history of the game lead the league that many times in an 8 year period....he just couldn't keep up those performances in the playoffs where as joe played his best in the playoffs and superbowls.
People debate which one is better. I'd say Joe Montana. Now if you look at their numbers in the regular season, they're mostly even, so for the deciding factor, we need to implement post season success which gives Montana the clear edge
@3:03 "The Hits we've seen quarterbacks take back in those days are nothing compared to what we see today" Uhh.. I'm not sure about that one, I'd say they got beat up waaay more back in the 80's
Would've been great to beat the Chiefs and Ravens too, but I'm now stuck growing up a Niners fan, watching us do a great impression of the Vikings and being really good, but never winning when it matters. Thanks Joe and Steve for spoiling me, and thanks Colin, Alex, and Jimmy for giving me great hopes.
I suspect just like any other "reigning king"..........it is always the hardest thing to do to pass the torch. NOBODY worth their salt GLADLY hands over those reigns (especially in sports). The kings always want to decide for themselves when to go thru the exit doors. They NEVER want that decision made for them. On any other team with Steve Young on a roster, his entry would have been made much sooner, but when you have a legend like Joe Montana walking the hallways of the locker room, there is NO WAY Joe is going to gladly hand over the keys to the locker room. I suppose Walsh, Seifert, and the entire DeBartolo family handled all of this with as much grace and class as they possibly could without stepping into ego land mines along the way. They did the best they could.
All I know is both got hurt and somehow the next guy was always ready to go so to me they always got playing time regardless of who was playing. To me it's like having 2 brothers that are both good at the same thing. They both get credit for getting the team to the Superbowl which both should of been standing together after winning the Super Bowl. That's the way I look at it. Both had each other's back.
Unpopular Opinion: I personally think Steve was better than most ( non-49er fans ) think he was. This video along with his career clearly states what I've been saying for years now... Young was better than Montana. Of course we all love Joe, he brought Super Bowls to the Bay, but let's be honest with ourselves. Not only did Young face stiffer competition, had 49er teams with slightly less talent than Joe, but just look at the stats.
Your context is extremely lacking. Montana came to a team that was piss poor and had to build a winner from the ground up. The PreRice teams were loaded om defense, but their offense although good, didnt compare to the post 86 offensive talent. While Steve Young stepped into a loaded 4 time SB winning team in a pre salary cap era. Huge advantage. Competittion?? Young's comp was probably more top heavy(Cowboys, Packers), but Montana' s comp was deeper. Giants, Redskins, Bears hell even the Saints. Young underachieved continuously. He walked in with Rice, Taylor and Watters and couldnt play well vs Dallas until they literally broke the bank to get one measly title. Young had a litany of great players to win after the Cowboys collapsed. Bryant Young, Dana Stubblefield, TO, Garrison Hearst, Rice, Merton Hanks but he couldnt get the job done.
@@aaronjackson9385 Bill Walsh and Edward DeBartolo Jr. had more impact on building that team to be a winner then Montana. Compare Young's last season in Tampa to his first season with 49ers and you will see how much impact Walsh's system had on QB's. Not trying to take anything away from Montana, but you can't over look other factors. When Young lost to Dallas in the playoffs it's true he wasn't that great, but the defense also gave up 30 points and 38 points. Montana never won a playoff game in his career where the defense gave up more then 27 points. I also wouldn't put Saints in there while comparing competition, Saints were good the last 2 years Montana was QB and the first 2 years Young was QB. It's a wash.
@@poizie85g83 of course the Niners were a first class organization with elite coaching. I never disputed that. But the fact of the matter is, Montana came to a poor team.and his greatness was a major factor in their ascent to greatness, while Young came to a ready made championship level squad and comparatively he did a lot less. Ownership is only as great as its players. Name an owner that was praised extensively that didnt field a good team?? Ownership is a results business. I cant turn on film and watch an owner perform like I can a Walter Payton or Barry Sanders and marvel at their greatness despite having some talent starved teams at times.
So Bill Belichek got his dump them a year earlier from Bill Walsh??? Bill Walsh the GOAT coach and Joe is the GOAT QB. Brady would've been aten alive in the 80s an 90s
Damn even ta dis day SB 28 would b Tha #1 highest-rated ever if Niners beat Dallas n KC beat Buffalo. The league couldn't even rigg it up cuz dey both got blown out n Championship game
Joe for me is the goat brady is great but he has something on his record that joe dont..... loses. Goats dont lose that's what makes them a goat NO LOSES OR PARTICIPATION TROPHYS lik bron has for the NBA to many hav that 0 in lose column.
Back in the 80s the owner can buy a superbowl team, like new York Yankees bought those championships, you got the money buy the best free agents, that all stopped in 90s with salary cap
@@lyleswavel320 People tend to over look how much of an advantage that was. There were very few teams that had a real shot at winning a championship before FA and salary cap.
Love steve young but if montana didn't get injured they would have gotten the three peat that year and Montana goes on to win at least one more. So the niners should have at least 6 rings. If he stays injured and the niners go back to montana they still get their 5th and maybe 6th.
Lmao, almost tore the Niners apart? Not even close, man. Having been 15 years old the season Walsh manufactured the controversy, there was no chance it was gonna tear anything apart. Other than any friendship Joe and Steve might have had otherwise. Bill did what he did to give Montana that extra push and drive he needed to win two more rings. And to get Steve game experience he needed to make him even better once Joe was done in the bay.
Not a Niners fan but, any Niners fan who thinks Young is better than Joe should be pushed off the Golden Gate Bridge. Steve is a Hall Fame QB, but Joe Cool had ice water in his veins. You had to knock him out to beat him. Jim Burt and Leonard Marshall. Only bad playoff loss the 1987 Divisional game. Also, Ronnie Lott and Charles Haley didn’t respect Young.