The Katie & Greg Blowout - The Bachelorette Breakdown Katie's Season Week 9 RECAP 

Hey everyone! I know this one's complicated so please keep that in mind when reading and responding to comments. And understand I'm hardly an expert too. 1 week until the finale!

Honestly, Justin’s facial expressions really are everyone finding out that he made it to the final two

I kind of feel robbed that we didn't get any sort of love story between Justin and Katie. There's a reason why she kept him this long... I'm guessing that they edited a lot out.

I really appreciated your careful and nuanced breakdown of the Greg/Katie break up! The response from viewers has seemed very polarized. That said.....let's normalize men going to therapy instead of expecting their partner to fix them

Justin's facial expressions carried the show lol

I fully understand that Katie didn't respond very well to Greg saying "I love you" and that she wasn't as empathetic as she could have been to his very open feelings. But from everything we saw, I think it's clear: this experience was NOT something Greg was ready for. Everyone needs time and space to grieve, if he's still doing so, that's obviously fine. He's a grown man, he can do what he wants, but this show did *not* seem like the move for him to be making for his own mental and emotional well-being. The entire sit down with the family made me so uncomfortable. There was so much pressure and so many emotions and so much responsibility being piled onto Katie during that date, even if they didn't mean to. It was just so much, especially from the person she's worked so hard to keep around because he visibly seemed to have one foot out the door at all times and she was so invested in him. It was a horribly difficult situation to put her in and there were so many emotionally charged statements being thrown at her, and while he had every right to be confused and upset, he became defensive very quickly. He refused to listen to her and refused to believe her words. I deeply think that he needs to take care of himself first. It shouldn't be on Katie's shoulders to give him his life and joy back, or any woman's shoulders for that matter. It sounds nice until you realize one thing could make it all fall apart and then suddenly Katie is being vilified for not providing that joy for him anymore. And he couldn't even listen to anything she had to say. They're both human beings, they were both clearly majorly invested, but it definitely seems as though he needs to take care of himself before he tries to get into a serious relationship with someone.

Justin is adorable but I don’t see chemistry between him and Katie.

Genuinely wtf was that “in loving memory of Katie and Greg’s relationship 2021-2021” montage at the end?!?!?!

I like Justin, but it seems like he accidentally made it to the final two because Michael and Greg left.

This episode was just sad to watch. It was a master class in miscommunication fueled by insecurity and unresolved pain. I hope the best for both.

Why did I learn more about how to handle confrontation in this video than in therapy!! Shoutout to fantake for explaining and hearing out both Katie and Greg’s sides

I honestly just felt so horrible for Katie during that whole conversation. She looked so defeated and broken. She was so confused as to why he was saying these things. It literally came out of no where in her eyes

It would be a hard relationship with greg. He wasn't happy in his life before meeting katie. She can't "make" him happy.

I *genuinely* would not be surprised if Justin somehow became bachelor this season is wild

As soon as Greg said "I haven't been happy in a long time until I met you" that was where he lost me, unfortunately. If you aren't happy with your life then falling in love might seem like it will cure things but in reality as soon as there is any kind of conflict or minor disagreement, that will fade and you will be miserable and you will blame the other person for not being able to keep making you happy.

I just want to say as someone whose dad passed away (and I was with him when it happened), if you're feeling the way Greg is, you should go to therapy. Not a reality dating show.

Honestly I love Justin. You never have to guess what he's thinking.

I agree with something I saw: Greg didn’t need to go on the bachelorette, he probably should have gone to therapy.

At this rate Justin is somehow gonna be the Bachelor by default lol

This is classic miscommunication, with some emotional immaturity on Greg's part (imo) combined with the fact that both of them are in a VERY stressful position. At the end of the day, ALL relationships have miscommunication. It takes dedication and commitment to one another to work through those moments. If Greg cracked SO drastically at the first miscommunication, then... it wasn't the right relationship for either of them. And that's OKAY. I wish them both the best. ALSO, for the preview breakdown, I am NOT convinced that the suv they show driving in the season finale preview is not Greg returning. Hmmmm... I hope not, though.

I’m just exhausted at this point of Katie having to constantly coddle Greg and reassure him all the time, I get why he was upset but the way he immediately flipped the switch and went into aggressive mode…I wish they had kept the part in when Katie tells him “I have no words for you right now.” Because I want to see what made her say that, it must have been awful.

It was interesting to me that the editors decided to leave out the whole Greg yelling at Katie moment that they showed us in the previews. That whole thing was uncomfortable and gross, and I think Katie was being honest when she said it was actually way worse than what was shown.

That Justin tribute might be better than the Victoria’s gone crab rave

katie should have said “thank you for sharing that” like matt always did lmaoo

Greg was definitely a favorite. Producers loved him and gave him a good edit, fans put him at the top of the lists from the beginning, Katie definitely had her heart set on him. I think that's what made this fight hit harder. It's kinda heartbreaking seeing a couple that felt strong before completely crumble in what felt like an instant.

Man…Katie’s response to Greg’s confession wasn’t great, but Greg blew it. You could tell Katie really did love him even though she didn’t say it (which is fair IMO). I feel for Greg-that’s the happiest he’d been in years and he was blindsided by her lack of response and probably just went into an emotional meltdown of “what ifs” if Katie didn’t choose him. Such a bummer, I think they would’ve ended up together

I am a therapist and you actually did a fantastic job of breaking this miscommunication down.

Greg seems to be finding an externally source of happiness? Perhaps he didn’t mean it initially, but just the fact that he was not over what happened with his dad before the beginning of the show, does not put him in a healthy state of mind to participate in this show. Unfortunately, it was this fact and Katie’s reaction that sparked the drama.

the shift in greg’s face after katie says “i just love looking at you” makes me really sad edit: i’m not condoning his actions or words after the fact, they were still super manipulative

I dated someone like Greg for over 2 years. When we eventually broke up the event lasted 17 hours because his emotions were out of control. That person and I bonded over many things, but we were not each other’s people-he depended too much on me for emotional support when he needed to learn how to manage negative emotions in a healthy way. This person would also keep me on the phone for hours to support him during an anxiety attack, and as someone who also struggles with anxiety, i know that anxiety and depression don’t make you a villain, but it makes you a bad partner if you don’t learn how to communicate.

Everything was going so well for Greg up until this point.. how did he literally pull a Jekyll and Hyde on us like that?? Major red flag 💀💀💀

I saw a woman trying to walk on eggshells while he was throwing insults at her. I’ve unfortunately been in this situation and watched some of my friends. I think by the end Katie was shocked by watching the person she thought he was turn into someone completely different. The kind that says “if you didn’t make me so mad, I wouldn’t have punched the wall”. No thanks.

People are really misinterpreting her response to Greg as she doesn’t feel the same way when she literally gave him responses all season that she indeed feels that way about him too. And in all those moments when she gave him more, he usually stared at her nodding not wanting to be too vulnerable yet. And she was understanding of his response and still held confidence in their connection. The moment he finally chose to be vulnerable, she was now reserved in her response because of her rule. She also needed the time and understanding by him till she was ready to open up. But he couldn’t do the same back for her because of his own insecurity in the relationship.

At first my reaction was the same as Greg’s. I felt like Katie’s response was awkward but then Greg started doing too much. And I was like oh no, he’s better off going home.

The whole fight could have been avoided if Greg chose to have a conversation with Katie and hearing out her side rather than just attacking her and not letting her get a word out. He already made hip his mind without any consideration of her feelings. At the end of the day their communication style & love language are just very different

I really appreciate your take. I completely agree with your take on Greg. He’s probably not some horrible monster of a person, but it was sad to see him handle everything the way he did.

I was really impressed with how Kaitlyn handled talking to Katie. I don’t think a conversation like that could’ve ever happened if Chris Harrison was still the host

This Justin Montage was what we needed at the end of the episode, not Greg

I'm really looking forward to the after the final rose so we can get some clarification from Katie about this breakup moment because the edit felt like it was portraying the argument in a specific light possibly to help Greg and I feel like it was much worse in the moment for Katie.

Exactly! It's all those "Why do you think I'm upset?" "What do you mean?" He shut down and didn't communicate anything to her, he expected her to know exactly what to say and do, and it was very specific.

Lol imagine if kaitlyn wasn’t there and Chris Harrison had to help Katie while she was crying in the bathroom lmfao

Justin seems like a good dude; too bad he and Blake had to deal with the fallout of the Greg finasco

This argument was super grey to me and I felt myself turning on each side as it went on. I think Greg was very hurt by Katie’s initial response but of what he was confessing to her at the moment - it was very very vulnerable. However, I think the more he sat with it and came to her room, he escalated it to a level that her one comment and her being the bachelorette is what is “ruining” their relationship. Greg, you are on a DATING SHOW. Yes ever emotion is real and your feelings are valid, but putting all the blame on Katie just demonstrated how much emotional pain he’s been carrying and is lashing it out. I don’t wish any ill will to him, just that he truly gets help and takes a break from dating

I have never understood why people like Greg and what he did the other night just confirmed why I have never had a good vibe about him. Why am I supposed to have sympathy for him for remembering the show he’s on and throwing a tantrum for not getting his way? I’ve known men who have done this guilt tripping and they don’t get better. They get worse and more manipulative. He may not be an evil guy, but he has some SERIOUS attention he needs to do to himself. If he was really in love with Katie, he would have not left so easily. He needs a therapist not a fiancée if this is how he’s going to behave toward someone he claims to love. You don't get to decide when someone is ready to say I love you. No matter how insecure I am, I would never want to put someone in a position where they felt pressured. Is it great he was so open with her? Of course it is. But his reaction to her reaction was completely out of proportion. People may date and flirt with people like Greg but they don’t marry them for long term partnership. He needs to get help.

Not a big Greg fan right now, aside from his emotional manipulation. You don't tell someone you love them and then get mad at the response, and break up with them immediately. He certainly has a lot of personal issues to work through.

The whole passive aggressive making Katie guess why he's mad thing is so emotionally immature

I feel bad for both Katie and Gregg.. having cameras in your face, high emotions and high stakes being an engagement at the end… it’s a lot. I don’t know if I’d be able to hold my emotions in this situation either.

I love the nuanced take you've given on this situation. Its such a pressure cooker situation, I'm sure they both know neither of them were firing on all cylinders. With that being said Greg really has to do a lot of reflection about how this whole thing went. Yeah Katie didn't do the best job reassuring him, but its clear from all of her actions that he's been her favorite. He refused to communicate at all and bailed from this relationship that he's said he's all into at the drop of a hat. I really think he didn't actually want to be there, from my perspective he was not at all as into her as she was into him, and he used this as an opportunity to get out. I have no doubt Katie feels completely blindsided.

I absolutely love how Blake's mom said "man the F up" in regards to expressing feelings. lol let's make this the new male stereo-type; expressing your feelings.

I've been Greg before. He's clearly really depressed and still in mourning, and being on this show probably (definitely) wasn't the right move for him right now. I feel bad for his struggle, and I feel bad that Katie got caught in the crossfire. He won't find happiness anywhere or with anyone until he's worked through this.

just here to say i love all the work and effort fantake puts in for us… i wouldn’t be as into this franchise if it wasn’t for you, and my whole family loves you now too

the fact he said “I deserve more” just shows he didn’t truly love her, if he was able to flip the switch so fast on her after one night of her not having the best response, proves he isn’t ready for an engagement, let alone a relationship with her or anyone. It was hard to watch this episode.

"An argument that has divided Bachelor Nation like nothing I've ever seen..." Hear me out: 1) Did that opening scene w/ Greg "seeing" Blake & Katie kiss not appear potentially FAKE and PRODUCED? We have no proof he actually did. Go back and watch that. It could've easily been shot after his blow-up with Katie, in an effort by production to smooth his image over. We don't see any shots over his shoulder with Katie & Blake in the distance. We have no shots of all three of them in frame. Just him saying, ew- I saw that, grr, icky, etc. This seems even more possible when we consider that... 2) We got an odd, romanticized Grippo memorial piece at the end.

I feel like Greg set Katie up to fail, then chastised and punished her for it. That’s not love and it’s not healthy. I feel for Katie and hope Greg finds help to heal himself first, he must be going through a lot subconsciously. I will say though… the “I deserve better” screamed bachelor audition to me.

Me seeing Greg first appear: He seems like a nice, sweet guy. I hope he treats Katie well. Me after seeing what went down with Katie and Greg: Nah, never mind.

As a Canadian and someone who happens to be from Blake's hometown, I was insulted by the "stereotypical" Canadian things. I realize he was joking, but unfortunately there are some people who will believe what he is saying. We have horses in Canada, we don't ride moose, and we sure as shit, don't drink maple syrup.

Seriously have NO idea how the heck Justin made it this far. I see absolutely no chemistry become him and Katie and am so confused why he is still here 😅

Omg that Justin tribute at the beginning was *chef's kiss*

Yeah Katie's response was not good BUT hurt is NEVER a good or healthy reason to lash out like Greg did. Katie kept trying to communicate the reason for her lackluster reaction and apologize but he was refusing to hear it and instead began to try and turn it all on her "being different" and not the "real Katie" and then use her trying to validate him(like he was wanting) against her(the number one thing). Its was so unhealthy. Greg needs therapy. Seriously. He is not ready for a relationship. And yes Greg she did ask you what was wrong and you refused to answer? Why are you upset she doesn't understand you? And honestly Katies silence to me read as her being scared of saying the wrong thing to such an intense confession. It was a lot he put on her suddenly and I totally get her needing to process and saying the wrong thing. If Greg would actually listen and communicate with her then they may have been able to work it out. But thats fine. Her and Blake honestly are the best fit.

i think the producers chose to edit greg so well at the beginning so that this break up would hit us as hard as it did.

Greg overthought it + is young and insecure + is coming off family trauma + saw a dude making out with the woman he loves. I don't think he's a bad dude. Just a bad combo of events. He should have heard Katie out but he was in the shook zone. It happens to good people.

Justin for the win, honestly! Also, best opening sequence ever. Magnifique.

That whole “I just love looking at you” comment, I think that was her way of saying “I love you too”. But she was following the “bachelorette” script, idk just my thoughts!

I said this in another post but: I feel like the look in her eyes after he said that was basically SCREAMING that she felt the same way, but she wanted to keep the promise she made to herself about not saying "i love you" back until the engagement. Same with how she looked at him when she said "I LOVE looking at you" (something like that) instead of "I like looking at you", but she used the word LOVE which i took as her basically trying to say she loves him back without straight out saying it. Also the whole night was very emotional and him saying all that right after maybe made her feel like because emotions are already so high, she had to find the right thing to say without making it totally obvious that she didnt say it back. Which obviously backfired.

My knee jerk reaction was "Tough it up, Greg", BUT then I thought about it for more than one second. Greg's and Katie's feelings are totally valid, it's not right to discard their thoughts and emotions. True, miscommunication is a big factor, alas, maybe, just maybe, their communication styles are so polar, that they'll never be able to understand each other sufficiently. Perhaps, their breakup is a good thing in the end. Also Katie made a smart move with Justin - she kissed him right after his love declaration. I was surprised she hadn't implemented the same tactic with Greg.

Thank you for the Justin tribute! I could watch his facial expressions all day! I was really impressed by him last night, as well. I don't think the producers gave him enough screen time.

I honestly don't think Greg has fully dealt with his fathers death, and that's okay! but what's not okay is lashing out on others. i wish him nothing but the best and hope he gets the healing he needs.

what did greg want her to say? he initially is looking for reassurance and when she tries to give it to him he shuts her down. it’s very immature

Blake ,and Katie seem cute as in a relationship but, marriage? Idk questionable to me. He doesn't seem like he's really ready for that step , but only he knows, I hope Katie find her permanent happiness.

Greg was simply not ready for the process. He needed reassurance. But he's constantly being reassured and comforted by Katie this entire season. I haven't seen a lead reassure a contestant so much right from the beginning. It was so uncomfortable watching the way Greg was talking to Katie. It maybe wasn't gaslighting but it was a level of emotional manipulation. Making Katie feel like she had something to apologise for.

Sadly, the problem started with the way Greg's family kept implying that his happiness depends on Katie's decision. It all goes downhill from there. In the end, when Katie goes on her knees, and he goes cold, I died. In my mind, I want to change his words to something like "I don't deserve... you, look at what have I made you done. You can get better than this. I am sorry. I am gone" and self eliminates because he realized he is not ready for love. More than gaslight or emotional manipulation, what I see is a broken man that tried to bond with another human on account of shared trauma. But the thing is that wounds heal, and when they do, you realize that actually, this type of bond is kind of superficial and convenient but can't hold an entire relationship. They deep down understood all that in that second but couldn't process it or voice that out. So getting cold was their way to escape. well, that's what I will tell myself to sleep this night

Haven been in a similar situation with my dad passing unexpectedly when I was younger I can say it took a long time before that fear of abandonment stopped keeping people at a distance. Expecting people to understand without explanation is alot. It's not on purpose most of the time.

I'm going to be real, I recognized some of my own bad behavior in how Greg behaved. Like, "why do you think I'm mad?" when clearly looking furious. I'm so lucky to be with somebody who knows who he is and demands that I treat him with respect. I've grown a lot as a result. I hope Greg gets a chance to grow up too.

I personally glad Greg decided to leave Good riddance. Clearly he must have been lost and confused at What kind of show he was on.

I had a break up that was even more confusing and intense than this one (based on things that were said or screamed) and it resulted in me experiencing anxiety attacks and back then I was worried it could trigger PTSD in me later. I hadn’t dated since, so I don’t know. That said, I really felt connected to Katie while watching the episode last night. I knew the confusion and helplessness she felt. When your partner, who you used to communicate so easily with, has made up their mind and closed themself off to you, you are powerless and you feel defeated. I’m confident my ex had things he needed help with to be mentally healthy, but also am confident that he manipulated me several times across years reflecting back on it. Greg has confessed his feelings and he seems like a good person, but he also needs help. If I could have a wish come true, it would be that men felt just as comfortable seeking therapy as women… that all people recognize when they need therapy and find help to restore their mental health. We all deserve that much.

I love when blake sister is tearing him up😂🤣.

We should all remember that we are seeing only portions of a highly-edited conversation. We don't know all of what was said in their relationship or during the relationship-ending conversation. Production can piece together words from totally different conversations and combine them to make it sound like its relevant to the conversation being shown. Entire segments of a conversation can also be left out, making it sound like someone is jumping to conclusions when there is actually a conversational basis for what was said. I don't know exactly what was done here. But, I do know that this is a highly-edited show that wanted to craft a particular storyline. We need to keep that in mind. We shouldn't be quick to judge.

I wouldn't mind Justin for the Bachelor. A season worth of meme-able faces could be fun!!

As someone who’s been through a lot of loss and trauma- being hurt and in a bad place emotionally is not an excuse to be a shitty person. Period. No excuses

Greg was not on the Bachelorette for finding love. He came on the show for another reason. This sudden change in personality is suspicious. I have a hard time watching this again. He had an agenda when he came on. And it wasn't for a proposal. I don't trust his motive. She should be glad he's gone.

Also Greg had the right one with the way he kept interrupting and talking over her lol. If it were ME I would have slammed the door in his face on the way out. So disrespectful and immature.

GREG BEFORE KNOCKING THE DOOR : "I need some answers" GREG AFTER KNOCKING THE DOOR : "Ok, Katie MUST get hurt MORE than me."

Best take. I feel for Greg but he was being defensive. Katie just seemed SO confused. Ultimately though Katie was responding weirdly. He said "respond to the hole in my heart" and she spirals and starts talking about the show and being number 1. It's unfortunate. I think Greg backed her into a corner but in the corner she could've just said "stay I want to be with you". Idk why she didnt chase him

honestly, greg’s dramatic exit makes sarah’s exit from matt’s season look very mature

i think the only woman greg needs to be seeing is a therapist

No one wants a relationship with someone who DEPENDS on them for their happiness!! That's way to much of a burden!

" you don't have to be great you just have to be you" what a great backhanded compliment

She dodged a bullet. Building blocks of a toxic relationship right there..take notes people

not the Justin montage 😭😭😭😂

honestly I need a silly goofy season of Justin as bachelor

We could have avoided this whole thing if Greg just flat out said to Katie “I need you to tell me that you feel that same way about me or I cannot continue”.. It’s a yes or no response. Instead he tip-toed around it to try to get her to say what he wanted to ask her. If Katie did see him as her #1 & her final, she could have just said “I love you” back. Who cares about the show at that point if the guy you love is about to walk out the door? With that said, I don’t think Greg was truly there for Katie given he just threw everything away that easily. If she does end up with Blake, I hope he doesn’t feel like he only won by default because that’s got to feel shitty😕 UNLESS Katie didn’t tell Greg she loved him because she also had feelings for Blake & she was unsure. Man, I DONT KNOW, I’m so conflicted😵‍💫🥴 I wish everyone the best at this point lol

These constant Canadian stereotypes, i'm over it 😂😅 hockey, maple syrup, goose, 'eh', poutine, igloo....

Greg just wasn't ready to be on this show let alone find love I believe he still needs to heal from the loss of his father

Justin deserved more of a story line this season.

I think that Greg did expect Katie to say "I love you" back, and when she didn't a switch flipped, and the next day I felt like he was looking for excuses to leave. He wasn't being too clear with his reasons, and he had made the decision before going to her room, I don't think she could have said anything to make him stay.

Greg also seemed very dramatic about their breakup which irritates me.

Are everyone in Canada so understanding, empathetic, compassionate and... Mature I guess? This was Empathy 101. The only video that made me less mad after watching the breakup over and over again. Honestly, I still feel bad for Katie more than I do for Greg. She was the one who deserved way better

Katie is not responsible for Greg's actions. In fact, if anything, she dodged a bullet. Is that what the rest of their marriage is going to look like? Every time she miscommunicates is he going to threaten divorce? At the same time, looking back at the finale, it was also baffling why Katie acted the way she did. Everything she did for Blake was what Greg wanted, and everything Katie said she wanted and got from Blake, was what Greg wanted from her.

I feel like Greg expected Katie to be his emotional support system. I'm not sure how to explain it other than it feels like Greg expects more from Katie but not in a good way.

Ladies just cuz a guy is crying doesn't mean he is crying for you. He could be just crying for himself.