The funniest Tipster fact is he stopped wearing his cross, allegedly to ingratiate himself to Keffals. Despite the Tip being a Christian for over 30 years he chose Keffals over God. I am not religious but the jokes write themselves.
Okay let’s actually speak correctly here in the interest of not lending credence to vaush’s points in the form of mistakes on your end. He ended the conversation saying he isn’t, but the big point here is he muddies the waters. “To the world I am SEEN as a harasser, and what I did wasn’t actually harassment and I don’t see myself that way, it looks enough like it to where I’ll just concede here” a very convoluted way to keep the excuse available that he didn’t admit to it, but agreed to disagree. Even though that’s not what he did. If this is on purpose this is a very deceiving and slippery way of using rhetoric to invalidate any negative standpoint against him. Is almost psychopathically surgical, all bases covered.
Exactly what I was thinking. B... b... but "If people think I'm sexually harassing someone, then I'm not... later, virgins". Clearly, a superior intellect 🙄
Canadian here. Ontario is probably the most LGBT+ friendly place on earth. Canada is infamous for granting refugee status to people living in countries where they could be persecuted for being gay. It’s a reason why Toronto has such a high gay population. Keffels crying about being discriminated against in London Ontario is like a Jewish person crying about being discriminated against in Israel.
O Canada being one of the most tolerant places towards the gays and the trans while accepting thousands of immigrants from nations who are vehemently and often violently against such beliefs. We in the business call this Schrödinger’s Progressive!
@@TheDigitalAppleso you think we should just deny people entry into a country that’s already historically full of immigration on the basis of… beliefs in homophobia or being lgbtq? What’s your point? As an immigrant I really don’t understand what you’re trying to say
I grew up in Kitchener, Onario and moved to Toronto. Keffals blocked me on Twitter because I know how the legal system works her and I called out the obvious holes in her story. I've had to deal with it on the side of being a victim so I'm well aware that we are actually not allowed to bust down people's doors brandishing weapons here. It's extremely hard to get a warrant for that even when it's the case of a violent person. They have to wait for them to answer the door or leave. My uncle is also quite a sketchy figure and has had the swat team bust in many times. It's actually rare they come in with weapons. This is canada and unless they have suspicion (valid, concrete suspicion) to assume they have guns they know they likely don't. That was my first red flag. She used a lot of tropes that are common in America because most people don't know better about how things actually work here. I also pointed out other things like how it's actually pretty hard to sue someone in Canada compared to the USA. A lawsuit against a police department is a huge feat here. We also have a third party organization that investigates them. The police do not investigate themselves here. It was determined they weren't in thr wrong and that they will update their filing system ti make sure they don't dead name people by accident. The court will look at that and say ok, they agreed to rectify the one issue, what are you looking for her? There's no reason for her to be awarded any money for this because it didn't affect her in a way that she lost money. The reason she probably paid a retainer fee and nothing else is probably because she spoke ti a lawyer, they looked over it then told her she her no case. I didn't believe all the human rights violation happened either because it's just too farfetched for here. Ontario has trans protections and health care. Even Canadian insurance companies cover gender related costs. It's highly unlikely the entire police force in London, ON of all places is this bigoted. We have great systems for human rights complaints too. So many things didn't add up and I spent so long fighting on the internet trying to convince people that canada is NOT America.
The taxes folder is the CP there's a meme from a while back where you hide anything illegal in folder labeled taxes so nobody wants to look in it, it's believed vausch put his CP in that folder and labeled it taxes in reference to the meme.
If giving instructions to minors on how to make estrogen in a BATHTUB and telling them to put that unholy concoction into their bodies doesn’t merit prison time I don’t know what does.
It's disgusting. And I fully support trans people, but concocting your own medicine, in unsanitary conditions and advertising it to CHILDREN is just vile.
@@TheAntlionGuard exactly what I say! Like there’s some common sense to this We aren’t straight up trans phobes hell I’m a leftist But teaching children how to make hormones is wayyyyy too much
@@TheAntlionGuard I've been taking prescribed medication for over 4 years now, and I'd never even *think* about getting my shit from some sketchy hentai website. Trans people get called groomers falsely all the time but things like that website are seriously over the line
After hearing the experience of a few trans friends, I support access to gender affirming care in children like puberty blockers BUT not homemade bullshit like this. It needs to be done properly because there's actual health risks unrelated to gender. I had a friend start transitioning in their 20s and they had to stop after coming out to their VERY supportive parents, finding out heart conditions run in their family, going to the doctor to see if it's safe to take estrogen and being told it's too risky. As a cis woman on birth control for endometriosis, estrogen is risky for us as well. Increases our chances of strokes and clots. I was taken off it immediately when I developed daily migraines and vision problems as that indicates I'm at a much higher risk of having a stroke while taking estrogen. It also means when I hit menopause, I won't be able to take estrogen as to minimise the impact it has on me (HRT is common in menopausal women) Keffals is not a doctor. She is some random person on the internet. She could be putting lives at risk. Again, I'm in support of young trans people having access to gender affirming care, but not like this. This is dangerous.
They also sound like the names of unapologetic criminals that go to bat for pedophiles, lolicon, and CP and then pretend to be the victim when you let their own words explain for themselves. They are spineless grifters of the worst order and deserve a lot more than the public flogging and running away they're currently going through. Disgusting people
I’m glad more people are finally talking about Keffals, it’s disgusting that many of these big content creators knew about it for years but refused to cover it because it wasn’t profitable at the time
Tipster slobbering on the blunt, keffals hogging it and calling you transphobe for proposing puff puff pass, Vaush saying smoking weed is for pseudo intellectuals while also hitting it
Yeah, it's so unreasonably dumb because: 1. Unlike Ironman, Kyle doesn't have a bulletproof suit that would allow him to fly out danger. 2. Police and civilians are different from rioters pursuing you with a weapon.
Nah. The deplatforming twatter clowns follow him in any cancellation attempts and without him and other bread(or horse) tubers, would be hopeless and lost without someone there to prove the validity of their warped brainwashed politically degen ideology.
@shearedsheep1284 it's not a conspiracy when a bunch of mainstream lefty streamers talk about sexually degenerate stuff lmao. It's a trend not an outlier
The DIY hormone shit always pissed me off on multiple levels. As a fucking chemist who works in the pharmaceutical field I cannot explain as to why it’s a horrible idea to try and make shit like that in a non controlled environment it’s irresponsible
I read the keffals thread a couple years ago and one of the hormone producers got doxed. The Loli packaging that was shown in this video. The maker went under the name otonoko and literally made it out of some sketchy apartment in I believe Brazil or maybe South American country ( it was awhile ago when I read all this) there was pictures of their setup and it was janky af. They had no proper equipment and I believe they were sterilizing stuff in a pressure cooker. The otonoko guy got doxed and his info sent to gov / police. Guy also posted guides on how to diy the stuff yourself. Pretty sure he was using cow piss or horse piss and refining it from that. Pretty fucking sketchy.
@@p0werfu11Yeah sure, give the demographic that has a semi decent chance of having mental health issues chemicals/drugs that affect them mentally and physically. And the "healthcare" in question isn't even fully researched and is very questionable at best and at worse straight up unethical.
anyone who has had any practical chemestry class knows how tight you need to be with sanitization. even if there was no moral downside to sending hrt to children, simply the conditions it is made in is more than concerning.
thats so crazy that a trans dude is a massive degenerate I mean Im just shocked its sooooo surprising and unprecedented wow, who could have seen this coming
And mocked a right-wing woman about being SA’d, too. He seems to really enjoy the disgusting and gruesome details to assault cases of women, whether he “respects” that woman or not… dude seems to straight up hate woman (such as why he wants to fuck a woman as a horse. Literally a man died from organ failure after getting railed by a horse! He wants to fuck a woman to death)
Who? Details? I like to take notes on the misandry (Like what Keffals does in the beginning of this video), misogyny, and any other isms and phobias that breadtubers and other types of 'progressives' engage in.
keffles downfall is so sweet. it’s even more funny that nobody on twitter is backing him (his only source of support) and thousands each day realizing Kiwifarms was RIGHT
Dude, the trans community wants NOTHING to do with her. You’ll get “a look” if you mention her around LGBTQ+ groups. They do NOT want to be associated with her.
💯 the combo of keeping it a secret from their family, thinking kids can consent to such major physical changes, and the side effects makes it a huge violation of the kid.
@@randalthor6872let's be real even if Tom did want to rightly gender keffals , he would get his video flagged for hate speech. It's lame but it's RU-vid. You have to er on the side of PC.
It's not over yet. We're about due for the Ethan Ralph being chased by the cartels across the Mexican border and Nick Rekieta being BTFO'd by Montegraph's lolsuit arcs.
Making up this mighty bunch we have Keffals the Troonshine Runner, with his powers of brewing hormones from the stuff under the sink, Vaush, with his powers of linguistics and appearance of a reddit mod who barely showers, he is sure to make any level headed individual rage quit the debate, and Tipster, the only thing lower than that swinging foopah are his hopes that his A1C will be lower than 50 this month.
Keffal's stans trying not to hit unsub/refund/nuke their patreons/stop supporting Keffal's whenever she does something awful for the 20th time: *N-NO, K-K-KEFFALS IS NOT A GRIFTER* Keffals: *Lmao and you keep protecting me.*
In an era where being a Vtuber has never been easier or looked better, Keffals picks the laziest and worst possible way to do it. Literally just a still picture jumping up and down synced to audio levels.
That's why there's a separate term for it that existed years before Vtubing… called being a PNGTuber. Which, as the other reply mentions, is something Turkey Tom followed after for an extensive period of time.
As a trans person I don't think anyone below 18 should transition, they need time to truly decide with a mature mind before doing something irreversible
Trans woman or man? Also, while I don't agree with HRT being used to be with.. Assuming that HRT is fully researched and is perfectly safe, only those who don't suffer from any mental health problems should have access to it.
@@FireGlitchthat's the thing hormones arnt completely safe. Women taking T are prone to blood clots, heart attacks , strokes. It's pretty bad from what I hear. Increased cancer risk as well. I'm pretty liberal and people can do what they want with their bodies, but not kids. People like to say puberty blockers are reversible but its not the truth. Also kids that take them suffer from a whole host of problems later in life like bone density , oesterioprosis(spelling fuck lol) and other issues. I'm against the trans movement being pushed on confused kids. As adults I care less but still think there are a host of risks involved that many are not informed of.
I had a friend of 20 years stop being my friend because of me calling Vaush a Pedo Horse Freak. He brought my son into the argument, who is 2. At that point, I could not have a civil discussion with him and decided to end the life long friendship. Which sucked. Wish nothing but the best for that dude since we met.
@@wheezer6695 well Hbomberguy got trolls remorse and is still doing shady stuff behind closed doors And hunter Avalon is such a an obvious grifter that everyone sees through it Idubbz made his bed and is forced to lay in it
@@ImmaLittlePip I just feel sorry for Hunter because of the misfortune he went through recently in the last two years or so. Idubbbz was my childhood same as Ethan and Filthy Frank so I kinda do feel sorry for the old Gaetard cancer patient, not so much Ethan he actually did ask for what he got in the end. Idk about Hbomberguy so I'd like the sauce.
@@DJ-wl5qoI just can't take his claims like that seriously, something got him all Kanye West level fucked up behind the scenes to make him go full 180° in a short timespan. I just feel sorry for the dude I dunno what else to say.
It's actually funny how Keffals tryed to do the same argument Vaush did. if you are upset about item A then you should be upset about situation B. 0.o at that point basically throwing Vaush under the bus and agreeing in her argument what he did was wrong. He truly has the best of friends.
around 2020 on tumblr i saw the very beginnings of "ordering" hormones online in trans communities; its insane that it's gotten to this extent and actually quite accessible to minors. this trans craze has to be taken seriously at some point.
It's insane. I remember reading keffals thread a couple years ago and one of the hormone makers otonoko was arrested I'm pretty sure. They were doxed and then had their info sent to I believe Brazilian government / cops. Their setup for making hormones was incredibly janky and unsanitary too. Literally horrowshow. Think the otonoko guy made an obscene amount of money too.
Vaush always came off as someone who thinks they are way smarter than they are, simply because they are well spoken. But the more he opens his mouth and expresses his actual ideas, the harder it is for his linguistic skills to cover up his shit takes😂
@@Drako9823 They just use the same tactics as their enemies. I always loved the stance inevitably taken against the farms of "Hey that's a low blow exposing my shady stuff through doxxing" well simple solution is don't do shady stuff lol
hearing vaush talk is one of the most annoying things in the world, it's insane how this dude tries so hard to sound intelligent by using big words for everything, he sounds like the essays I used to write as a kid that were padded out and full of synonyms purely so I could hit a word count, dude really is reddit personified